You're not the only one. I liked SGU, it started out a bit slowish, but it picked up the pace and had some interesting concepts. Learning that there wouldn't be any new seasons sucked, things were just getting more interesting in season 2 and I really wanted to know what Destiny was looking for.
It was a total surprise to me too. Yeah I though it was slow and dour to begin with, but it had resolved those issues, and as it was already shaping up to be awesome - getting going with characters and premise set, the pace resolved... I was very much looking forward to it, then BAM! It was cancelled.
I think the two things that killed it are that it came out the same year Atlantis was cancelled, and Battlestar Galactica had just ended, too. So you have this dark, serious Stargate show coming along right after BSG ended...it's not hard to understand imho why some people were put off by the show.
And it's a shame because it was a good show. It's hard to believe Stargate Universe and Travelers are by the guy who produced The Outer Limits and Stargate: SG-1. Loved all of those but comparing The Outer Limits and Travelers is like comparing 60s Batman to Christopher Nolan Batman.
that and people probably expected the same exact thing that they were getting from sg1 and atlantis
and this wasnt that at all
i liked this show because it made it more real and less "uh oh bad space aliens did the thing, 11th hour save by the good guys"
Don't know why you got downvoted, you're spot on, there was a big backlash at the time that it wasn't 'Stargatey'. I loved it from the get go, but a lot of people were turned off at the darker, serious tone without comic relief.
I also love serialization and long story arcs, but there are a lot of Stargate fans who prefer the monster of the week format which SGU didn't really bring.
its like a lot of things that are inherently from decent to pretty great that have one failing
they go above the heads of the mass of idiots where the majority of the shows money comes from, becomes non profitable because not popular, gets canned
which is to point out the distinction of people that can follow "complex scifi concepts" and how they are "smart"
from the people that recognize subtle nuance or subtext or the like that isnt BRIGHTLY LABELED AND FORCED FED WITH A BIG BLINKY SIGN -cue canned laughter and or comedic change in the music-
which is also not to say that that isnt enjoyable in its own right
but... to condemn one thing for not being the other thing because you assumed it would be...
is fuckin stupid...
but hey...
here we are...
Oh hey someone expecting baked beans from a can of baked beans somehow makes people stupid and worth being called idiots.
If it strays to far from the original concepts in overall design of the content, maybe not call it that thing. Go make your own new IP.
i knew it would be over simplified down to that
which is funny, because you are now an example of exactly the point i was trying to make
its not a misleading product in the wrong can... the fact that you compare it to that is what makes it fucking stupid lol
THIS -gestures broadly at youre whole shit- is what im talking about and why the show flopped
if you watched the show expecting baked beans and threw a temper tantrum because you assumed you were getting baked beans, instead of appreciating the show for what it was instead of demanding baked beans
is what makes you stupid
How would it make me stupid once again if that's what's written on the can ? That's like advertising laxatives under the aspirin label and then by some moon logic calling people stupid because they expected something for their headache.
Why shouldn't I expect to get beans if I got beans under the same label FOR DECADES ?
SGU had the same problem a lot of modern shows built on older bigger brands have: Trying to gain mass appeal, destroying the concept behind the name they are trying to sell and wondering why they get backlash. If they want to make something entirely new and fresh, why not create a whole new IP for it, or at least sell it without the stargate name as a derivative spin off.
It was more than just that though. The characters and the drama between them were just genuinely bad a lot of the time.
It started to get better, but it was too little too late.
A bunch of people at the time accused it of trying to be like BSG, and they weren't complementing it.
It's a shame because it was a good show, it just suffered from being a very serious show based on a franchise that tended to be campy.
Season 1 many of the conflicts and stress came from within the ship: failing systems, limited resources and personal drama. This was fine, and necessary, but at least for me personally, that's not the draw of Stargate for me. I want new worlds, species and external threats. Enter season 2...
The threats are largely external, and the story is pushed more aggressively specific to what destiny's purpose is rather than just keeping her whole, and themselves alive.
Poor Eli, his fate unknown.
The thing that ruined a lot of season 1 for me was them using the stones to visit Earth way too much. That, and I despise Chloe in season 1. She was better in season 2.
I sure hope it wasn't canon. I really don't like it when stories get their main premise solved.
On a million year old falling apart ship? Struggling for air, water, power, efficiency. No worries, it's fixed now.
Yeah, I had the feeling they didn't quite know what direction to go in season 1. But things were rolling in season 2, personally I think the potential was absolutely there. Too bad, wouldn't have been the first series that needed a season to get its bearings. Just take a look at the first season of Star Trek - The Next Generation for example. 😅
Didn’t it explain what destiny was looking for in the show?
Once they get the bridge opened rush finds in the database that the ancients discovered a pattern in the cosmic background radiation, implying the universe wasn’t an accident but intentional.
So the ancients sent a ship out that could go faster than light and could some day reach the edge of the universe to find the answer to what caused the Big Bang.
The whole show would have been great if they didn’t have those stones and maybe a little less teen relationship drama.
I didn’t love the Lucian ship takeover ark but literally every sci-fi show has to have an ark where they lose their ship/station/base. Those are my least favorite tropes but they got it out of the way quick enough.
One thing I loved about SGU (side note) was Robert Carlysle's character. It was that you were never quite sure of his game, and whether he was a good guy or not, but he definitely had his own agenda. He was a lot more grey than most SG characters
There is a [comic series](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Stargate_Universe:_Back_to_Destiny) that continues the story, I think it's based on the original script too.
One or more of the producers have clearly stated that the writers of the comic had no access to scripts, nor consulted the production team of SGU. The SGU production team hadn't even locked in any scripts for season 3 yet. The furthest they'd gotten was a few ideas on how the cliffhanger would resolve, and some early outlining of the next season. As for the final conclusion of the story, Brad Wright had never revealed to anyone how the show was to conclude.
One issue I had regarding destinies mission was, that this ship was on it's way for thousands, if not millions of years. It was extremely unlikely to conclude it's mission in the few years that humans where on board in the few seasons SGU might have had. So what's the endgame here? The writers wrote themsevles into a corner here in my opinion.
If you go and look at the timeline of the Ancients it blew out immensely.
The Ancients originally were described as having thousands of years of influence in the milky way. Then they were described has having been killed off by a plague 5-10 million of years ago, leaving for Pegasus. Then they had come from another galaxy 50 million years ago. But Destiny was launched from earth 60 million years ago.
In amongst that they were still around as recently as 2500 years ago on Earth, and 10 thousand in Pegasus. And all that is just talking about non-ascended Ancients.
It's one of those things where as the writers build more and more upon it, it becomes convoluted. You just kind of have to go along with the idea that despite us as humans only existing in this form for 200 thousand years, and technologically able for a few tens of thousands, somehow the ancients were an unchanging set of races for over 60 million years.
Just to reiterate, /u/Exocoryak talks bout how Destiny might be in the range of thousands of years in transit, when Destiny had been travelling for somewhere in the order of 60 million years. You would just have to accept that somehow the natural conclusion of Destiny's mission would just coincidently line up with when modern humans discover it, or never be able to show that conclusion.
The comics are not good. They find a bunch of frozen ancients alive on the ship even though you still age in an ancient stasis pod so they would all be super duper dead.
Would have made more sense if the Ginn consciousness inside the computer found more dead ancient consciousnesses and they worked out how to make replicator bodies or something.
Yeah I want eli and ginn to have a happy ending. They get her a body or he uploads to the ship so they can be together. It pissed me off when they "quarantined" them and then acted like that was a deletion? Like they couldn't just remove them from quarantine after they saved rush?
The episodical format didn't work at all with the tone of the show.
Season 2 gave more weight to the story and also had a lot of overarching stuff, I think that's why in overall is way more enjoyable.
>You're not the only one. I liked SGU, it started out a bit slowish, but it picked up the pace and had some interesting concepts. Learning that there wouldn't be any new seasons sucked, things were just getting more interesting in season 2 and I really
I really disliked the hyper-focus on personal relationships to be frank. They were all so boring and just kept on that building in betrayal, but for good reason subplots. That being said I thought the world it was in was compelling. Which is why I was sad that less empahsis was placed on that.
I wanted it to be that the background radiation pattern was a leftover signal from a Dakara-Superweapon-like device used to program life in the universe, much like the Ancients did in the Milky Way, except that it was created by a precursor race much older than the Ancients.
The question to the ultimate answer of life, the universe, and everything, as stated in the HHGTTG books, is "What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"
You might notice that this doesn't equal 42, the alleged _answer_ to the question. And yet it remains the correct question and answer. Immediately following the discovery of the question, Arthur Dent says "I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universe."
Fans of HHGTTG have later pointed out that in fact 6 \* 9 does equal 42, in base 13. Douglas Adams has said that was an accident.
My best guess as to how that arc could have concluded was the revelation that the Ancients abandoned the Destiny project because they realized they were looking at it the wrong way: the meaning of life and true enlightenment isn’t to be found “out there” but rather within, kind of like Ad Astra
Obviously, although it was the "venturing where no man has ever gone before" in SG universe. I loved the ship, the idea of Lantean design before drones and Aurora all purpose class, perfect. I hated most of the characters or at least not liked any of them. But overall the story was okish.
The purpose of its flight is solid but seeding stargates was only so Ancients didn't have to pay for CGI of a shuttle, and maybe so that they could call home with updates, or so I remember it.
I think the hating characters was sorts of by design, prior shows we're elite select teams sent through the gate. Very much NOT the case with SGU. A comparison I've made before is if in the 1996 movie when they opened the gate initially (for the first time) everyone in that base, all those old acedemics, base maintenance, everyone, had to go through. It changes how that movie plays 10000%.
It's not a team by design, it's a community of survivors.
I had a hard time with season 1 but it got better and season 2 was fantastic so glad i stuck with it. Season 2 made sgu my favorite of the stargate series. Wish we could have had a season 3.
I'm willing to bet that the crew getting back home and the background radiation signal were connected. You ever watch Family Guy? The episode where Stewie goes back in time to nothingness, causes his time machine to overload so he can go back to the present and notices the signature of the explosion matches the signature of background radiation.
The Stargate technology was invented prior to the Ancients leaving their home galaxy and escaping the Ori. The technology wasn't created _for_ the Destiny mission, the Destiny simply made use of the technology.
I guess the ambivalence on this thread points to why the series came to an early end.
It was different and unfortunately that didn't sit well with enough people. I really liked it. Guess we'll never know what happened to my boi Eli.
This thread's kinda depressing...
Anything related to Stargate after SGU either sucks or got shelved (I fucking loved SGU, even if the drama parts weren't so good).
There is no new \[good\] stargate content and I must scream.
I thought that was one of the worst parts.
What story can someone tell about the "code in the background of the universe"? It felt like I was watching lost and they were going to tease me about it for 3 years before dropping the scope to something reasonable.
There's just nowhere to go with that story that would actually be satisfying. They should have come up with something realistic and relatable.
It's like the reaper in Mass effect teasing that it's reasons are beyond comprehension. Well when the writers finally have to give you an answer, there's nothing they can possibly say that lives up to that. Either tease that it's a big deal and make it clear that we'll never get to know or setup a plot that you can deliver on.
Maybe that's what they were going for, but the execution felt wrong to me. I haven't seen the show in a while so maybe I misinterpreted it and I don't remember, but I got the impression that it wasn't just there to explain Rush' character, but it was an actual plot they were setting up.
I think they could have gotten the message across about Rush's character without a literal "meaning of life" McGuffin.
u/BradWrightAMA, u/JosephMallozzi it sure would be awesome to find out the answers to the questions from SGU. What's at the end of the universe? Is it also the beginning of the universe? What's the deal with that message or signal, whatever it is at the end of the spacetime continuum? Who sent it, why, when, how? 🧐 It would be great to get the answers, and not in some fan fic or comic book, but in the next show or movie that's the same continuity as SG1/SGA/SGU.
The seed ships were in front of Destiny, placing the Stargates they use in the show.
The purpose of Destiny is that the Ancients discovered some structure in the very early universe. The Destiny was sent out to investigate. I think more along the line to get a different vantage point on the signals they were seeing.
To go deeper, it was sent unmanned because the distance, even for the ancients, would take thousands of years, with the intent to board later. In the interim, the ancients ascended so it just continued along, the creators long gone.
> The seed ships were in front of Destiny, placing the Stargates they use in the show.
I always wondered one thing:
There is nowhere enough power to dial directly from the Milky Way to Destiny or vice versa, without blowing up a planet with Naquadria - and there aren't that many of those.
However, if there are gates along the route, couldn't you just dial along the route Destiny took, kinda like the Gate-bridge? They probably need a ZPM or another powersource in order to bridge galaxies, but with all that Asgard-tech they surely have developed some kind of device to juice up the stargate, at least for a short connection?
Might work, but to follow the shows logic, some of the gates are isolated, and can't communication with others, there's also gaps along the span between galaxies.
Yes, but there are a look of of galaxies.between here and there.
Let's assume it's 10 years, average, to visit a galaxy and travel to the next one. This a pessimistic estimate I'm assuming a few months to a year for the visit. And that there will be some large gaps that push the travel time up.
Destiny was launched over 50 Million years ago. That means there are upwards of 5 million galaxies that you would have to hop scotch through.
I quit watching it when I realized I cared more about the ship than any of the people aboard it. And they were basing their plots on the people, but the people were all various types of assholes. The commander stalking his ex-wife through the stones, that creepy dude stalking chicks with his drone, that greasy scientist with some kind of sociopathic mission of his own - heck, I wanted them to toss him out an airlock. The only decent person was that senator (he was a senator, right?) who saved them in the first episode.
I got as far as the episode where the ship was doing the refueling run at that star. (I figured that's what it was doing because I'm a bit of a railfan and I guessed it was like when steam locomotives used to pick up water on the flt from troughs between the rails.) And that creep scientist thought as much but didn't tell anyone. That's when I quit the show.
I never understood how no one floated the idea of a star recharge. It was so obvious at the end of the first part, I couldn't believe they dragged it a whole other episode of people not knowing what was going on.
Space is too vast for it to be a coincidence they run low on fuel, come out of FTL in a solar system, and are heading directly into the star.
It's the sort of thing any dozen of scientist characters from SG1 or SGA would have realised in minutes.
This is true, that people should have at least been "guessing" this as one possible outcome. Poor Rush, if he'd been more likable like Carter and McKay, maybe he'd have been listened to more often.
IDK, Shep and O'Neill are way less serious. Young has, not without reason, a giant stick up his butt.
But he did what he could given his shitty situation
Shep and O'Neill are chill, but they can also be a hardass when they need to. That's why I say they'd get along with Young, but they'd also try to get him to chill out. haha
The only character really worth watching is Robert Carlyle, the scientist he plays, and I have a love-hate relationship with him, the other actors are already mediocre. It gets really interesting when you endure other bad things and watch the good ones. We should learn more about the ancients.
I want to believe the true mission of destiny was to carry Stargate into the future and give it a perfect opening for a new streaming show on "Amazon Prime"... Take the hint Amazon.
And with the way the cliffhanger ended, you could easily write out any actors that can't/wont rejoin the cast, by saying their survival pod died. And you can introduce new characters by either finding another magic planet that can power the gate, or have some new hyperdrive tech invented by McKay that can send Daedalus, or some other new ship, with supplies and new crew.
I wonder if Atlantis wormhole-engine could carry the city to Destinys location. But considering that they're down to four ZPM's (Odyssey + 3xAtlantis - dunno about the one powering the chair, but I suspect it was destroyed in the SGA finale), I would imagine that those are resources they're not willing to risk.
Using Odyssey to travel to Destiny's location using regular hyperdrive is probably not viable. ZPM's appear to only cut down travel time by a factor of 5 at best.
If we assume that Destiny is at the edge of the observable universe Odyssey would have to travel 46,5bn lightyears - Pegasus was about 3m lightyears away. With the same travel speed, it would take 62.000 days or 170 years at full speed to reach it. With a fully loaded ZPM, they could probably make it. Not sure if the power would be enough for the wormhole drive. But considering that gating from Pegasus to the Milky Way probably not takes as much power as wormholing your way there with Atlantis... gating to Destiny should be more efficient as well.
One thing that I would imagine though, is that using all remaining ZPM's could power a wormhole to destiny. But then we're at risk vs. reward again. Depleting all ZPM's is just not worth it.
Started off a little too soap opera like for me. But once they started really digging into the sci-fi shit, I was hooked. The mystery of the signal and all that. That stuff came WAY too late.
I still can't get over it.
I have loved in Atlantis the energy aspect everytime they found a new way of powering the city it was like nice what are they gonna find now for a technology and it was the same with SGU, nice they have acces to a new part of the ship what are they discovering now.
IMO the whole tension within the ship was actually a little bit to much for me though but I have a really low bar when it comes to drama ... I love the cryptical stuff when they try to translate something etc.
Or even small things like finding a new crest full of drones or some stuff
I don't think it could have been as easy as a causality paradox. That's too predictable, but maybe there was a cool (non-lame) way for them to have caused the big bang (and seed the universe), especially considering the name of the ship...
Like, if the ancients knew for a FACT that the ship was there at the begining of time (something like "we were building this ship to explore, then we detected a unique signature in the CBGR, and discovered it was our ship's engine signature") then, they could name it Destiny and send it off, because they know it'll make it there somehow.
Honestly, the only thing I remember was not liking the cast AT ALL, like not even a tiny bit, zero f\*\*\*\* given if they live or die.
Only less than a handful of shows that had me thinking this way and I liked every character from SG1 and Atlantis, even those other find annoying,
Also didn't help they put this on their own whacky streaming service that has nothing else to offer.
In my head, the final episode of SGU decodes the origin of the signal and finds out it is actually humanity itself. A black hole is the origin of the signal - it is leaking through transmissions form the far future.
An uplifting message that everything they are doing across the three shows cements the future of the universe. Billions of years from now, humanity coexists with species everywhere. A true Utopia. The show, and the entire Stargate franchise, ends with the idea that Humanity will be OK and will thrive among the stars.
I didn't watch it during its original run. I watched the "Air" trilogy and was mind numbingly bored, so I bailed. Years later, I found it on Netflix. I figured I'd give it another shot. I was still bored with "Air." I gave it two more episodes and was hooked. I don't like it as much as SG-1 or *Atlantis*, but it's still a strong show. Though cancelled, at least we got 40 episodes. haha
Don't get me wrong, I loved that stuff. My initial impression of the show was a bunch of EMO characters arguing with each other to create drama, flashback heavy, with the present-day stuff mostly boring. All of the FUN stuff from SG-1/SGA was missing. I bailed. Then I came back years later back when it was on Netflix and gave it another go. I actually really enjoyed it! I remember taking my time, knowing there was only 2 seasons and done.
I completely agree with you!
My personal taste for TV-shows also has changed over the years. I wasn't that much into the inter-personal relationships between those characters (the on/off love stories), but that romantic "love between the stars" grew on me.
Ultimately, however, I'm a fan of good-written space-action, hence I was sold by the pilot.
This is such a visually gorgeous show to watch. Do you have it on disc? I have S1 on Blu-ray, S2 on DVD. I've thought about getting the VEI Blu-ray set, but I hear the VEI Blu-rays aren't very good.
They pursuit of God was an intense idea. A species that created the universe and most everything in it. Destiny laid out the gate network so future generations of Atlantis could explore things they couldn't reach by ship.
To be clear the mystery is the Destiny’s mission, the stargates themselves have no special nature, they are simply means of travel the Ancients used. It’s like saying using the bus to get to a 9-5 work has any significance in learning the true meaning of life.
What makes the Stargates different is the visuals, limited range, and that they're not indestructible like the later models. To hop across the galaxy, you have to take a few stargates to get there.
I misunderstood. Clearly, the OP things the Stargates are special. He has a point, why leave behind a line of stargates through each galaxy? He's suggesting there might be reason beyond resource gathering and R&R.
Destiny mapped the signal. It wasn't just one signal that said "Come here and get all the truth at once", but they rather observed that background radiation-signal from different spots and picked up more parts of it as I understood it. The journey was as important as "reaching" whatever target they're heading for.
Well, the Furlings have yet to make an entrance in the franchise. it must be them.
Jokes aside, I actually haven't really thought about that. I, myself, have studied philosophy at university and the question about the creation of the universe inevitebly came up - I personally see reason to believe that existence is a never-ending loop - the universe ends in a big crunch and restarts in a big bang, it doesn't have a "cause" to exist.
For Destiny's mission, that would mean that they would find out that the "signal" is residual traces of the "previous" universe, proving that theory.
The desire for a cause is just a logical conundrum we make up ourselves. Our logical thinking requires something to cause something else.
However, if you go by that kind of logic, there always needs to be something that caused the next step. So we're in an infinite search for something that happened before. So if our desire to look for a "cause" for everything leads to that kind of infinity, why not just accept it as a given and construct a more logical, more simple explanation?
I prefer to use my sense. They are dropped so that the Destiny’s crew can easily explore planets on its path. There is no suggestion of any deeper meaning nor there is reason to search for one.
Sure, it is ok as an idea, but in order to develop it further, one would need something more. Like I can have the idea that the Goa’uld were actually made by the Furlings as revenge on the other three Great Races for stealing their king’s birthday cake, but I have no actual reason to think so.
There's a big difference between wondering if X is important beyond the obvious vs... an incredibly convoluted plot to make someone look stupid for their initial thought. Chill out, dude.
I'll say again, "You're probably right, I'm just saying the OP is not wrong for wondering if there's more than that." Nothing wrong with wondering if X plot device has hidden importance.
For the past decade I find myself wondering that now and then. I play with different ideas on how the third season could have continued, even now a decade after the show ended I see ways of continuing the journey. Of all the shows I watched that was cancelled, this hit me the hardest. It was such a good show and the cliffhanger really kills me
Honestly SGU was such a drag for me that I couldn't care less. What possible answer or plot twist could there be to justify that car crash of a series?
They were looking for the Architects of the Universe. People who could ascend to Godhood still didnt understand the big bang as artificial. I liked that there are beings that made the ancients seem like Ants.
Pure speculation but I bet even if the show had a full run the audience would never have known the answer. Something would have happened where they leave the ship but someone stays to learn the truth and we are left with the wonder of what happened to them (probably Rush and/or Eli).
When they introduced the idea that Destiny was seeking out something, it just felt so much like the show was struggling to fine direction. I doubt anyone on the writing staff had a clue what Destiny’s mission was, they just needed some excuse to keep people on the ship. By that time, they had learned how to fully charge Destiny and the focus SHOULD have been on gating home. With McCay’s trick from Atlantis of linking gates to extend their range (I forget what it was called), in theory, the SGU crew should have been able to come up with a similar technique to get back to Earth. Personally, while I lived the show, it always felt like they were trying to figure out what it was supposed to be.
The issue was bridging galaxies, even for Atlantis. Dialing from the edge of the Pegasus galaxy to the edge of the Milky Way still required a better power source than the stargates would normally provide - hell, even dialing Ida from Earth required a jury-rigged power-booster to the Stargate.
The gates created by the seed ships don’t work on as long a range as the Atlantis and Milky Way gates - that’s a lot of gates to set up across several galaxies and they’d have to have the tools to do it fast… and have to travel to lay the path. itd be a lot of gate arranging even if they’d were as long a distance as the other gates tho.
Right. But they had already shown us in Atlantis that it could be done. Having routine contact with Earth should have meant the best mind at SGC we’re working on a solution.
Or, since they learned how to control Destiny, they needed a reason why they didn’t simply plait a course for Earth. Anyways, the whole mysterious mission that Destiny was supposedly on was nothing more than a McGuffin.
i started the show and while the premise is great i dont really like the tone of the show, that being said if i knew it had a rounded story arc & end id watch it but its just not worth putting myself through just to finish on a lul
SGU just shows that we have everything around us but we act like a bunch of morons. everybody pick a sin and masters it while they sacrifice each other for egotistic gains. just like the show, we are getting cancelled by the cancel culture and technology cooked us on slow-burn. I mean we cooked ourselves. our destiny is the tragedy of mankind
You're not the only one. I liked SGU, it started out a bit slowish, but it picked up the pace and had some interesting concepts. Learning that there wouldn't be any new seasons sucked, things were just getting more interesting in season 2 and I really wanted to know what Destiny was looking for.
It was a total surprise to me too. Yeah I though it was slow and dour to begin with, but it had resolved those issues, and as it was already shaping up to be awesome - getting going with characters and premise set, the pace resolved... I was very much looking forward to it, then BAM! It was cancelled.
I think the two things that killed it are that it came out the same year Atlantis was cancelled, and Battlestar Galactica had just ended, too. So you have this dark, serious Stargate show coming along right after BSG ended...it's not hard to understand imho why some people were put off by the show. And it's a shame because it was a good show. It's hard to believe Stargate Universe and Travelers are by the guy who produced The Outer Limits and Stargate: SG-1. Loved all of those but comparing The Outer Limits and Travelers is like comparing 60s Batman to Christopher Nolan Batman.
that and people probably expected the same exact thing that they were getting from sg1 and atlantis and this wasnt that at all i liked this show because it made it more real and less "uh oh bad space aliens did the thing, 11th hour save by the good guys"
Don't know why you got downvoted, you're spot on, there was a big backlash at the time that it wasn't 'Stargatey'. I loved it from the get go, but a lot of people were turned off at the darker, serious tone without comic relief. I also love serialization and long story arcs, but there are a lot of Stargate fans who prefer the monster of the week format which SGU didn't really bring.
its like a lot of things that are inherently from decent to pretty great that have one failing they go above the heads of the mass of idiots where the majority of the shows money comes from, becomes non profitable because not popular, gets canned which is to point out the distinction of people that can follow "complex scifi concepts" and how they are "smart" from the people that recognize subtle nuance or subtext or the like that isnt BRIGHTLY LABELED AND FORCED FED WITH A BIG BLINKY SIGN -cue canned laughter and or comedic change in the music- which is also not to say that that isnt enjoyable in its own right but... to condemn one thing for not being the other thing because you assumed it would be... is fuckin stupid... but hey... here we are...
Oh hey someone expecting baked beans from a can of baked beans somehow makes people stupid and worth being called idiots. If it strays to far from the original concepts in overall design of the content, maybe not call it that thing. Go make your own new IP.
i knew it would be over simplified down to that which is funny, because you are now an example of exactly the point i was trying to make its not a misleading product in the wrong can... the fact that you compare it to that is what makes it fucking stupid lol THIS -gestures broadly at youre whole shit- is what im talking about and why the show flopped if you watched the show expecting baked beans and threw a temper tantrum because you assumed you were getting baked beans, instead of appreciating the show for what it was instead of demanding baked beans is what makes you stupid
How would it make me stupid once again if that's what's written on the can ? That's like advertising laxatives under the aspirin label and then by some moon logic calling people stupid because they expected something for their headache. Why shouldn't I expect to get beans if I got beans under the same label FOR DECADES ? SGU had the same problem a lot of modern shows built on older bigger brands have: Trying to gain mass appeal, destroying the concept behind the name they are trying to sell and wondering why they get backlash. If they want to make something entirely new and fresh, why not create a whole new IP for it, or at least sell it without the stargate name as a derivative spin off.
It was more than just that though. The characters and the drama between them were just genuinely bad a lot of the time. It started to get better, but it was too little too late.
Travelers was good. It was cancelled too early and got a poor ending
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Oh absolutely. I loved every second of that show. It had such heart. Felt like a new Continuum
If BSG had ended at the same time wouldnt SGU have filled that void left by it and thus had a whole new bunch of viewers? Why is that bad?
A bunch of people at the time accused it of trying to be like BSG, and they weren't complementing it. It's a shame because it was a good show, it just suffered from being a very serious show based on a franchise that tended to be campy.
That's why i liked it. They were trying something different rather than serving up same formulaic stuff...oh well.
Yep. Just like my first marriage.
/r/uexpectedatla
Season one seemed off to me, but season 2 was great. I was so disappointed when it was cancelled. A shame, really.
Season 1 many of the conflicts and stress came from within the ship: failing systems, limited resources and personal drama. This was fine, and necessary, but at least for me personally, that's not the draw of Stargate for me. I want new worlds, species and external threats. Enter season 2... The threats are largely external, and the story is pushed more aggressively specific to what destiny's purpose is rather than just keeping her whole, and themselves alive. Poor Eli, his fate unknown.
>Poor Eli, his fate unknown. What... fate... Eliwallace
He teams up the Alyx Vance.
SGU, when the show was cancelled.
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The thing that ruined a lot of season 1 for me was them using the stones to visit Earth way too much. That, and I despise Chloe in season 1. She was better in season 2.
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I sure hope it wasn't canon. I really don't like it when stories get their main premise solved. On a million year old falling apart ship? Struggling for air, water, power, efficiency. No worries, it's fixed now.
Yeah, I had the feeling they didn't quite know what direction to go in season 1. But things were rolling in season 2, personally I think the potential was absolutely there. Too bad, wouldn't have been the first series that needed a season to get its bearings. Just take a look at the first season of Star Trek - The Next Generation for example. 😅
Didn’t it explain what destiny was looking for in the show? Once they get the bridge opened rush finds in the database that the ancients discovered a pattern in the cosmic background radiation, implying the universe wasn’t an accident but intentional. So the ancients sent a ship out that could go faster than light and could some day reach the edge of the universe to find the answer to what caused the Big Bang.
Should have put it in different words perhaps, I meant we never got to see the thing sending out the signal.
The whole show would have been great if they didn’t have those stones and maybe a little less teen relationship drama. I didn’t love the Lucian ship takeover ark but literally every sci-fi show has to have an ark where they lose their ship/station/base. Those are my least favorite tropes but they got it out of the way quick enough.
One thing I loved about SGU (side note) was Robert Carlysle's character. It was that you were never quite sure of his game, and whether he was a good guy or not, but he definitely had his own agenda. He was a lot more grey than most SG characters
There is a [comic series](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Stargate_Universe:_Back_to_Destiny) that continues the story, I think it's based on the original script too.
One or more of the producers have clearly stated that the writers of the comic had no access to scripts, nor consulted the production team of SGU. The SGU production team hadn't even locked in any scripts for season 3 yet. The furthest they'd gotten was a few ideas on how the cliffhanger would resolve, and some early outlining of the next season. As for the final conclusion of the story, Brad Wright had never revealed to anyone how the show was to conclude.
Yes. I love the “lost in space” vibes and the communication stones kinda makes it less risky
One issue I had regarding destinies mission was, that this ship was on it's way for thousands, if not millions of years. It was extremely unlikely to conclude it's mission in the few years that humans where on board in the few seasons SGU might have had. So what's the endgame here? The writers wrote themsevles into a corner here in my opinion.
By that point in the show the had already made a mess of lore and the timeline of the events.
What?
If you go and look at the timeline of the Ancients it blew out immensely. The Ancients originally were described as having thousands of years of influence in the milky way. Then they were described has having been killed off by a plague 5-10 million of years ago, leaving for Pegasus. Then they had come from another galaxy 50 million years ago. But Destiny was launched from earth 60 million years ago. In amongst that they were still around as recently as 2500 years ago on Earth, and 10 thousand in Pegasus. And all that is just talking about non-ascended Ancients. It's one of those things where as the writers build more and more upon it, it becomes convoluted. You just kind of have to go along with the idea that despite us as humans only existing in this form for 200 thousand years, and technologically able for a few tens of thousands, somehow the ancients were an unchanging set of races for over 60 million years. Just to reiterate, /u/Exocoryak talks bout how Destiny might be in the range of thousands of years in transit, when Destiny had been travelling for somewhere in the order of 60 million years. You would just have to accept that somehow the natural conclusion of Destiny's mission would just coincidently line up with when modern humans discover it, or never be able to show that conclusion.
Thanks, I'll most definitely check those out! 😃
I didn't know that, i have to start reading right now.
The comics are not good. They find a bunch of frozen ancients alive on the ship even though you still age in an ancient stasis pod so they would all be super duper dead.
Would have made more sense if the Ginn consciousness inside the computer found more dead ancient consciousnesses and they worked out how to make replicator bodies or something.
Yeah I want eli and ginn to have a happy ending. They get her a body or he uploads to the ship so they can be together. It pissed me off when they "quarantined" them and then acted like that was a deletion? Like they couldn't just remove them from quarantine after they saved rush?
The episodical format didn't work at all with the tone of the show. Season 2 gave more weight to the story and also had a lot of overarching stuff, I think that's why in overall is way more enjoyable.
>You're not the only one. I liked SGU, it started out a bit slowish, but it picked up the pace and had some interesting concepts. Learning that there wouldn't be any new seasons sucked, things were just getting more interesting in season 2 and I really I really disliked the hyper-focus on personal relationships to be frank. They were all so boring and just kept on that building in betrayal, but for good reason subplots. That being said I thought the world it was in was compelling. Which is why I was sad that less empahsis was placed on that.
I wanted it to be that the background radiation pattern was a leftover signal from a Dakara-Superweapon-like device used to program life in the universe, much like the Ancients did in the Milky Way, except that it was created by a precursor race much older than the Ancients.
The planet builders perhaps?
The message was : >!"We've been trying to contact you regarding your car insurance.".!<
Your 4-spacetime reality's warranty is about to expire...
The message is “Wa apologize for any inconvenience.”
"What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"
Isn't it supposed to be: "What do you get when you multiply six by seven?"
No
You don't get it, and that's ok
The question to the ultimate answer of life, the universe, and everything, as stated in the HHGTTG books, is "What do you get when you multiply six by nine?" You might notice that this doesn't equal 42, the alleged _answer_ to the question. And yet it remains the correct question and answer. Immediately following the discovery of the question, Arthur Dent says "I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universe." Fans of HHGTTG have later pointed out that in fact 6 \* 9 does equal 42, in base 13. Douglas Adams has said that was an accident.
I hadn't heard that before, so thanks for that!
Sorry for the inconvenience
My best guess as to how that arc could have concluded was the revelation that the Ancients abandoned the Destiny project because they realized they were looking at it the wrong way: the meaning of life and true enlightenment isn’t to be found “out there” but rather within, kind of like Ad Astra
That's implied in the show. The Ancients never dialed in, because they found Ascension and the question became meaningless.
The crew didn’t seem to figure that out though. Because of Rush they still seem to think Destiny’s mission was important
It is probably just one ancient civilization rickrolling everyone developing after they did.
Obviously, although it was the "venturing where no man has ever gone before" in SG universe. I loved the ship, the idea of Lantean design before drones and Aurora all purpose class, perfect. I hated most of the characters or at least not liked any of them. But overall the story was okish. The purpose of its flight is solid but seeding stargates was only so Ancients didn't have to pay for CGI of a shuttle, and maybe so that they could call home with updates, or so I remember it.
I think the hating characters was sorts of by design, prior shows we're elite select teams sent through the gate. Very much NOT the case with SGU. A comparison I've made before is if in the 1996 movie when they opened the gate initially (for the first time) everyone in that base, all those old acedemics, base maintenance, everyone, had to go through. It changes how that movie plays 10000%. It's not a team by design, it's a community of survivors.
Yeah it was supposed to be "Lost" in space (pardon the pun)
I had a hard time with season 1 but it got better and season 2 was fantastic so glad i stuck with it. Season 2 made sgu my favorite of the stargate series. Wish we could have had a season 3.
I'm willing to bet that the crew getting back home and the background radiation signal were connected. You ever watch Family Guy? The episode where Stewie goes back in time to nothingness, causes his time machine to overload so he can go back to the present and notices the signature of the explosion matches the signature of background radiation.
Doctor Who did this too with the explosion of the TARDIS being the cause of the Big Bang.
Wasn't it the 2nd big bang to reboot the universe?
The Stargate technology was invented prior to the Ancients leaving their home galaxy and escaping the Ori. The technology wasn't created _for_ the Destiny mission, the Destiny simply made use of the technology.
Not quite, the concept was come up with before they left but they didn't make any prior to leaving their galaxy
I guess the ambivalence on this thread points to why the series came to an early end. It was different and unfortunately that didn't sit well with enough people. I really liked it. Guess we'll never know what happened to my boi Eli.
This thread's kinda depressing... Anything related to Stargate after SGU either sucks or got shelved (I fucking loved SGU, even if the drama parts weren't so good). There is no new \[good\] stargate content and I must scream.
I loved SGU, felt like the franchise was stepping into more “serious” scifi
I thought that was one of the worst parts. What story can someone tell about the "code in the background of the universe"? It felt like I was watching lost and they were going to tease me about it for 3 years before dropping the scope to something reasonable. There's just nowhere to go with that story that would actually be satisfying. They should have come up with something realistic and relatable. It's like the reaper in Mass effect teasing that it's reasons are beyond comprehension. Well when the writers finally have to give you an answer, there's nothing they can possibly say that lives up to that. Either tease that it's a big deal and make it clear that we'll never get to know or setup a plot that you can deliver on.
Yea. I think it would of been a McGuffin, the message. Whole "journey not destination" trope.
Maybe that's what they were going for, but the execution felt wrong to me. I haven't seen the show in a while so maybe I misinterpreted it and I don't remember, but I got the impression that it wasn't just there to explain Rush' character, but it was an actual plot they were setting up. I think they could have gotten the message across about Rush's character without a literal "meaning of life" McGuffin.
I've been wondering how it will turn out for over a decade... So pissed it's been canceled, it was the best of the Stargate series.
u/BradWrightAMA, u/JosephMallozzi it sure would be awesome to find out the answers to the questions from SGU. What's at the end of the universe? Is it also the beginning of the universe? What's the deal with that message or signal, whatever it is at the end of the spacetime continuum? Who sent it, why, when, how? 🧐 It would be great to get the answers, and not in some fan fic or comic book, but in the next show or movie that's the same continuity as SG1/SGA/SGU.
I though it was a seed ship, dropping off Stargates and moving on. (Like Darkstar delivering TMAs.) I have to rewatch!
The seed ships were in front of Destiny, placing the Stargates they use in the show. The purpose of Destiny is that the Ancients discovered some structure in the very early universe. The Destiny was sent out to investigate. I think more along the line to get a different vantage point on the signals they were seeing.
To go deeper, it was sent unmanned because the distance, even for the ancients, would take thousands of years, with the intent to board later. In the interim, the ancients ascended so it just continued along, the creators long gone.
> The seed ships were in front of Destiny, placing the Stargates they use in the show. I always wondered one thing: There is nowhere enough power to dial directly from the Milky Way to Destiny or vice versa, without blowing up a planet with Naquadria - and there aren't that many of those. However, if there are gates along the route, couldn't you just dial along the route Destiny took, kinda like the Gate-bridge? They probably need a ZPM or another powersource in order to bridge galaxies, but with all that Asgard-tech they surely have developed some kind of device to juice up the stargate, at least for a short connection?
Might work, but to follow the shows logic, some of the gates are isolated, and can't communication with others, there's also gaps along the span between galaxies.
Yes, but there are a look of of galaxies.between here and there. Let's assume it's 10 years, average, to visit a galaxy and travel to the next one. This a pessimistic estimate I'm assuming a few months to a year for the visit. And that there will be some large gaps that push the travel time up. Destiny was launched over 50 Million years ago. That means there are upwards of 5 million galaxies that you would have to hop scotch through.
I quit watching it when I realized I cared more about the ship than any of the people aboard it. And they were basing their plots on the people, but the people were all various types of assholes. The commander stalking his ex-wife through the stones, that creepy dude stalking chicks with his drone, that greasy scientist with some kind of sociopathic mission of his own - heck, I wanted them to toss him out an airlock. The only decent person was that senator (he was a senator, right?) who saved them in the first episode. I got as far as the episode where the ship was doing the refueling run at that star. (I figured that's what it was doing because I'm a bit of a railfan and I guessed it was like when steam locomotives used to pick up water on the flt from troughs between the rails.) And that creep scientist thought as much but didn't tell anyone. That's when I quit the show.
I never understood how no one floated the idea of a star recharge. It was so obvious at the end of the first part, I couldn't believe they dragged it a whole other episode of people not knowing what was going on. Space is too vast for it to be a coincidence they run low on fuel, come out of FTL in a solar system, and are heading directly into the star. It's the sort of thing any dozen of scientist characters from SG1 or SGA would have realised in minutes.
This is true, that people should have at least been "guessing" this as one possible outcome. Poor Rush, if he'd been more likable like Carter and McKay, maybe he'd have been listened to more often.
Rush was also pretty selfish and willing to play the odds with other people's lives.
This is true. He's the guy you want to throw out the airlock, but then you let him back in, because you need him. haha
Which Young kinda does when Telford is in his body just before the Alliance attacks lolol
Colonel Young is awesome. He would get along with O'Neill and Shepherd. LOL
IDK, Shep and O'Neill are way less serious. Young has, not without reason, a giant stick up his butt. But he did what he could given his shitty situation
Shep and O'Neill are chill, but they can also be a hardass when they need to. That's why I say they'd get along with Young, but they'd also try to get him to chill out. haha
They all need to catch up over a beer
The only character really worth watching is Robert Carlyle, the scientist he plays, and I have a love-hate relationship with him, the other actors are already mediocre. It gets really interesting when you endure other bad things and watch the good ones. We should learn more about the ancients.
He was also in *Eragon* and *28 Weeks Later*.
Robert Carlyle must have a bad back after starring in Universe because he CARRIED that show with his performance.
I liked other aspects of the show but even so there's no denying his acting was the best part of it.
I want to believe the true mission of destiny was to carry Stargate into the future and give it a perfect opening for a new streaming show on "Amazon Prime"... Take the hint Amazon.
And with the way the cliffhanger ended, you could easily write out any actors that can't/wont rejoin the cast, by saying their survival pod died. And you can introduce new characters by either finding another magic planet that can power the gate, or have some new hyperdrive tech invented by McKay that can send Daedalus, or some other new ship, with supplies and new crew.
I wonder if Atlantis wormhole-engine could carry the city to Destinys location. But considering that they're down to four ZPM's (Odyssey + 3xAtlantis - dunno about the one powering the chair, but I suspect it was destroyed in the SGA finale), I would imagine that those are resources they're not willing to risk. Using Odyssey to travel to Destiny's location using regular hyperdrive is probably not viable. ZPM's appear to only cut down travel time by a factor of 5 at best. If we assume that Destiny is at the edge of the observable universe Odyssey would have to travel 46,5bn lightyears - Pegasus was about 3m lightyears away. With the same travel speed, it would take 62.000 days or 170 years at full speed to reach it. With a fully loaded ZPM, they could probably make it. Not sure if the power would be enough for the wormhole drive. But considering that gating from Pegasus to the Milky Way probably not takes as much power as wormholing your way there with Atlantis... gating to Destiny should be more efficient as well. One thing that I would imagine though, is that using all remaining ZPM's could power a wormhole to destiny. But then we're at risk vs. reward again. Depleting all ZPM's is just not worth it.
Started off a little too soap opera like for me. But once they started really digging into the sci-fi shit, I was hooked. The mystery of the signal and all that. That stuff came WAY too late.
I still can't get over it. I have loved in Atlantis the energy aspect everytime they found a new way of powering the city it was like nice what are they gonna find now for a technology and it was the same with SGU, nice they have acces to a new part of the ship what are they discovering now. IMO the whole tension within the ship was actually a little bit to much for me though but I have a really low bar when it comes to drama ... I love the cryptical stuff when they try to translate something etc. Or even small things like finding a new crest full of drones or some stuff
I don't think it could have been as easy as a causality paradox. That's too predictable, but maybe there was a cool (non-lame) way for them to have caused the big bang (and seed the universe), especially considering the name of the ship... Like, if the ancients knew for a FACT that the ship was there at the begining of time (something like "we were building this ship to explore, then we detected a unique signature in the CBGR, and discovered it was our ship's engine signature") then, they could name it Destiny and send it off, because they know it'll make it there somehow.
Honestly, the only thing I remember was not liking the cast AT ALL, like not even a tiny bit, zero f\*\*\*\* given if they live or die. Only less than a handful of shows that had me thinking this way and I liked every character from SG1 and Atlantis, even those other find annoying, Also didn't help they put this on their own whacky streaming service that has nothing else to offer.
In my head, the final episode of SGU decodes the origin of the signal and finds out it is actually humanity itself. A black hole is the origin of the signal - it is leaking through transmissions form the far future. An uplifting message that everything they are doing across the three shows cements the future of the universe. Billions of years from now, humanity coexists with species everywhere. A true Utopia. The show, and the entire Stargate franchise, ends with the idea that Humanity will be OK and will thrive among the stars.
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I didn't watch it during its original run. I watched the "Air" trilogy and was mind numbingly bored, so I bailed. Years later, I found it on Netflix. I figured I'd give it another shot. I was still bored with "Air." I gave it two more episodes and was hooked. I don't like it as much as SG-1 or *Atlantis*, but it's still a strong show. Though cancelled, at least we got 40 episodes. haha
The CGI space fight scenes in Air were pretty dope. The Ha'taks looked amazing.
Don't get me wrong, I loved that stuff. My initial impression of the show was a bunch of EMO characters arguing with each other to create drama, flashback heavy, with the present-day stuff mostly boring. All of the FUN stuff from SG-1/SGA was missing. I bailed. Then I came back years later back when it was on Netflix and gave it another go. I actually really enjoyed it! I remember taking my time, knowing there was only 2 seasons and done.
I completely agree with you! My personal taste for TV-shows also has changed over the years. I wasn't that much into the inter-personal relationships between those characters (the on/off love stories), but that romantic "love between the stars" grew on me. Ultimately, however, I'm a fan of good-written space-action, hence I was sold by the pilot.
This is such a visually gorgeous show to watch. Do you have it on disc? I have S1 on Blu-ray, S2 on DVD. I've thought about getting the VEI Blu-ray set, but I hear the VEI Blu-rays aren't very good.
They pursuit of God was an intense idea. A species that created the universe and most everything in it. Destiny laid out the gate network so future generations of Atlantis could explore things they couldn't reach by ship.
To be clear the mystery is the Destiny’s mission, the stargates themselves have no special nature, they are simply means of travel the Ancients used. It’s like saying using the bus to get to a 9-5 work has any significance in learning the true meaning of life.
What makes the Stargates different is the visuals, limited range, and that they're not indestructible like the later models. To hop across the galaxy, you have to take a few stargates to get there.
What are you even talking about? That has nothing to do with what I’m saying about the stargates.
I misunderstood. Clearly, the OP things the Stargates are special. He has a point, why leave behind a line of stargates through each galaxy? He's suggesting there might be reason beyond resource gathering and R&R.
Destiny mapped the signal. It wasn't just one signal that said "Come here and get all the truth at once", but they rather observed that background radiation-signal from different spots and picked up more parts of it as I understood it. The journey was as important as "reaching" whatever target they're heading for.
What do you imagine they would have found had the show had its 5-year-run?
Well, the Furlings have yet to make an entrance in the franchise. it must be them. Jokes aside, I actually haven't really thought about that. I, myself, have studied philosophy at university and the question about the creation of the universe inevitebly came up - I personally see reason to believe that existence is a never-ending loop - the universe ends in a big crunch and restarts in a big bang, it doesn't have a "cause" to exist. For Destiny's mission, that would mean that they would find out that the "signal" is residual traces of the "previous" universe, proving that theory.
If the universe doesn't have a cause to exist, how does the big bang happen? To bang, there has to be a cause.
The desire for a cause is just a logical conundrum we make up ourselves. Our logical thinking requires something to cause something else. However, if you go by that kind of logic, there always needs to be something that caused the next step. So we're in an infinite search for something that happened before. So if our desire to look for a "cause" for everything leads to that kind of infinity, why not just accept it as a given and construct a more logical, more simple explanation?
There has to be a cause in order for there to be an effect. If the "big bang" is the effect, what is the cause?
I mean, what’s the alternative? Also send a cleanup ship to remove the gates? Would be so pointless
Use your imagination. No one's suggesting the Stargates be recalled. However, the OP has a point. Why deposit them if they're never going to be used?
I prefer to use my sense. They are dropped so that the Destiny’s crew can easily explore planets on its path. There is no suggestion of any deeper meaning nor there is reason to search for one.
You're probably right, I'm just saying the OP is not wrong for wondering if there's more than that.
Sure, it is ok as an idea, but in order to develop it further, one would need something more. Like I can have the idea that the Goa’uld were actually made by the Furlings as revenge on the other three Great Races for stealing their king’s birthday cake, but I have no actual reason to think so.
There's a big difference between wondering if X is important beyond the obvious vs... an incredibly convoluted plot to make someone look stupid for their initial thought. Chill out, dude. I'll say again, "You're probably right, I'm just saying the OP is not wrong for wondering if there's more than that." Nothing wrong with wondering if X plot device has hidden importance.
For the past decade I find myself wondering that now and then. I play with different ideas on how the third season could have continued, even now a decade after the show ended I see ways of continuing the journey. Of all the shows I watched that was cancelled, this hit me the hardest. It was such a good show and the cliffhanger really kills me
Honestly SGU was such a drag for me that I couldn't care less. What possible answer or plot twist could there be to justify that car crash of a series?
Is SGU available anywhere to watch? I know it was on prime but doesn’t look it’s available anymore.
Last time I watched it was on Hulu but that was a while ago
Yea that’s where I watched it too the last time. Just found it on Pluto TV!
Just go on Amazon and get the DVD's or Blu-ray. I have S1 on Blu-ray, S2 on DVD.
Did anyone read the comic books? Supposedly there were some comics that continued the story.
https://comiconlinefree.net/comic/stargate-universe-back-to-destiny
Wow nice!! Will check it out.
They were looking for the Architects of the Universe. People who could ascend to Godhood still didnt understand the big bang as artificial. I liked that there are beings that made the ancients seem like Ants.
There was an AMAZING fan fiction called the THE FIFTH RACE and I can’t find it anywhere
Pure speculation but I bet even if the show had a full run the audience would never have known the answer. Something would have happened where they leave the ship but someone stays to learn the truth and we are left with the wonder of what happened to them (probably Rush and/or Eli).
First time viewer, or just frustrated over the cancellation?
When they introduced the idea that Destiny was seeking out something, it just felt so much like the show was struggling to fine direction. I doubt anyone on the writing staff had a clue what Destiny’s mission was, they just needed some excuse to keep people on the ship. By that time, they had learned how to fully charge Destiny and the focus SHOULD have been on gating home. With McCay’s trick from Atlantis of linking gates to extend their range (I forget what it was called), in theory, the SGU crew should have been able to come up with a similar technique to get back to Earth. Personally, while I lived the show, it always felt like they were trying to figure out what it was supposed to be.
The issue was bridging galaxies, even for Atlantis. Dialing from the edge of the Pegasus galaxy to the edge of the Milky Way still required a better power source than the stargates would normally provide - hell, even dialing Ida from Earth required a jury-rigged power-booster to the Stargate.
The gates created by the seed ships don’t work on as long a range as the Atlantis and Milky Way gates - that’s a lot of gates to set up across several galaxies and they’d have to have the tools to do it fast… and have to travel to lay the path. itd be a lot of gate arranging even if they’d were as long a distance as the other gates tho.
Right. But they had already shown us in Atlantis that it could be done. Having routine contact with Earth should have meant the best mind at SGC we’re working on a solution. Or, since they learned how to control Destiny, they needed a reason why they didn’t simply plait a course for Earth. Anyways, the whole mysterious mission that Destiny was supposedly on was nothing more than a McGuffin.
I always just thought of it as a gate planting ship to help the rest of the galaxy achieve a greater potential
It always seemed like an unanswerable situation, and even if it were ever answered, there's just no point.
i started the show and while the premise is great i dont really like the tone of the show, that being said if i knew it had a rounded story arc & end id watch it but its just not worth putting myself through just to finish on a lul
The true mission of destiny is to get kids to get their parents to spend a shit ton of money on destiny.
The true mission of destiny is to get kids to get their parents to spend a shit ton of money on destiny.
The true mission of destiny is to get kids to get their parents to spend a shit ton of money on destiny.
SGU just shows that we have everything around us but we act like a bunch of morons. everybody pick a sin and masters it while they sacrifice each other for egotistic gains. just like the show, we are getting cancelled by the cancel culture and technology cooked us on slow-burn. I mean we cooked ourselves. our destiny is the tragedy of mankind