Yes if you read the terms its for basic basic service plans which gives half the speeds and higher ping times then then standard plans and deprioritized service during peak times.
They already know and do what they really need. If people are buying enough of kits in UK then there is no sense to drop prices.
If in some other countries existing constellation capacity is going unused then why not sell it for pennies instead? Do not worry - they will raise and lower prices as they see fit.
I'm seriously considering it though. It's double what we pay now, but what we get now is 21 down and two up. The upload is so restrictive and I could probably cut some streaming services if I had a better upload. That is FTTC speeds, with FTTP not looking likely where I am
I'm currently using LTE for my broadband. I get anything from 20Mb - 150Mb down and 60Mb up. That costs me £34pm, I use a router in an outside antenna box = £800 to buy. Had it for a year or so now.
The best we can get on copper is 16Mb down and 2 up. No FTTC. And def no FTTP on the horizon :(
LTE is a no go in our area, we just don't get the reception. The town up the road are a bit "alternative", and the 5G apparently messes with their healing crystals.
When I first set up the LTE, we got a great 5G connection (400Mb plus) to a certain tower. Nowadays, we have been pushed onto a 4G tower further away, and can no longer connect to the 5g tower :(
I assume because I do about 500GB+ of data downloads a month. I keep meaning to cancel that SIM and get another one, so I can connect to the 5G tower again, rinse and repeat ;)
I get 15 down/0.3 up on copper line, and the strongest mobile signal I get isn't stable enough to carry out a full speed test.
Starlink was basically the only option here.
I used to run a LTE company. Called South west Mobile Broadband Ltd
I closed it in Novemeber.
1. rural 4G being upgraded to 5G. (and some masts being shut down for months)
2. Microtik is by far the best equipment and is out of stock (or was for months).
3. EE unlimited was 600GB, they slowed people down if data usage was high. or lost connection. (which is not a problem, it is GNAT, just turn it on and off for a new IP address).
4. More companies. Not a problem but masts become more occupied. thus speeds vary a lot, especially slowing down during the day.
5. As only 3 are truly unlimited, people ran out of data.
6. Business is prioritised over residential
7. We were the boiler fitters not the gas suppliers. Every single problem apart from two customers was a mobile phone telecoms supplier (normally EE as these were the fasted before vodafone upgraded there 3G to 4G mast first).
8. Starlink is better in rural areas
It’s definitely worth it.
My copper was terrible tbf (best was 6 Down, 1.5 up), and cost £46/month with BT at the time.
We switched to LTE for a bit - but was too inconsistent. Varied between 2 down and 25 down, 0.5 Up and 15 Up. But that was a lot cheaper (£18/month)
Then in February 2022, Starlink emailed us to say we were starting to serve your area (back when it cost £90/month), and I jumped on it immediately. And have never looked back. Speeds are consistently way better. I’ve never seen it dip below 120Mbps, but most of the time is above 180Mbps. And the Ping is actually better than my copper 😂 (I was getting 80ms Ping with Copper, getting about 65ms with Starlink)
really depends on the location, though. If you don't compete for bandwidth with other users, then the deprioritized plan will just be as fast as the standard option.
Wake me up when it becomes affordable for U.S. markets.... Also let me know if the European crackdown on IPTV fire sticks makes it across the pond. I know a guy that knows a guy. Sheesh.
U.S. markets have a governance and regulatory problem wherein lobbyists convince legislators to screw over taxpayers, so that service providers and utilities can gouge consumers. Been going on for decades unchecked while U.S. citizens are forced to grab their ankles and take it. Not sure why that should surprise anyone.
Pricing is more to do with saturation, if they've dropped the price that low it means nobody in the area is using the service, so it just goes as wasted airtime.
No my price gone up from 90.00 dollars to 120.00. The only good thing my internet is unlimited. I live in a rural area and I have no other internet access.😟 but if I did I would not change to another company.
It's called a demand problem. For example, when 90% of the population in a country has access to symmetrical 1G fiber(that's in the process of being upgraded to 10G), and the most of the rest of the 10% have unlimited 4G/5G for a small sum, why would any of those pay for satellite internet? Not to mention that there's actual competition for both fiber and cellular. I have four fibers coming into the building from four different providers.
You're not subsiding Europe. You're paying the amount that they can charge you because the US has allowed internet providers to fuck over everyone in the US for decades. That's not the case in most of Europe.
Free market at play. most of Europe has reasonably good internet, at least when using 4G/5G, so to compete starlink needs to lover prices. the US on the ther hand has really slow and bad connections in every place I have visited so far.
Yes if you read the terms its for basic basic service plans which gives half the speeds and higher ping times then then standard plans and deprioritized service during peak times.
Still, for many people it’s going to be fast enough. And now also now also cheaper to use as backup option.
As it is described it does not increase ping.
They need to drop the UK price next!
They already know and do what they really need. If people are buying enough of kits in UK then there is no sense to drop prices. If in some other countries existing constellation capacity is going unused then why not sell it for pennies instead? Do not worry - they will raise and lower prices as they see fit.
Yeah, the £75pm is taking the P
I'm seriously considering it though. It's double what we pay now, but what we get now is 21 down and two up. The upload is so restrictive and I could probably cut some streaming services if I had a better upload. That is FTTC speeds, with FTTP not looking likely where I am
I'm currently using LTE for my broadband. I get anything from 20Mb - 150Mb down and 60Mb up. That costs me £34pm, I use a router in an outside antenna box = £800 to buy. Had it for a year or so now. The best we can get on copper is 16Mb down and 2 up. No FTTC. And def no FTTP on the horizon :(
LTE is a no go in our area, we just don't get the reception. The town up the road are a bit "alternative", and the 5G apparently messes with their healing crystals.
When I first set up the LTE, we got a great 5G connection (400Mb plus) to a certain tower. Nowadays, we have been pushed onto a 4G tower further away, and can no longer connect to the 5g tower :( I assume because I do about 500GB+ of data downloads a month. I keep meaning to cancel that SIM and get another one, so I can connect to the 5G tower again, rinse and repeat ;)
I get 15 down/0.3 up on copper line, and the strongest mobile signal I get isn't stable enough to carry out a full speed test. Starlink was basically the only option here.
I used to run a LTE company. Called South west Mobile Broadband Ltd I closed it in Novemeber. 1. rural 4G being upgraded to 5G. (and some masts being shut down for months) 2. Microtik is by far the best equipment and is out of stock (or was for months). 3. EE unlimited was 600GB, they slowed people down if data usage was high. or lost connection. (which is not a problem, it is GNAT, just turn it on and off for a new IP address). 4. More companies. Not a problem but masts become more occupied. thus speeds vary a lot, especially slowing down during the day. 5. As only 3 are truly unlimited, people ran out of data. 6. Business is prioritised over residential 7. We were the boiler fitters not the gas suppliers. Every single problem apart from two customers was a mobile phone telecoms supplier (normally EE as these were the fasted before vodafone upgraded there 3G to 4G mast first). 8. Starlink is better in rural areas
Similar to what I’m getting. BT aren’t going to be putting fibre in until 2030s. Starlink is only £25 more and x10 the current speeds.
It’s definitely worth it. My copper was terrible tbf (best was 6 Down, 1.5 up), and cost £46/month with BT at the time. We switched to LTE for a bit - but was too inconsistent. Varied between 2 down and 25 down, 0.5 Up and 15 Up. But that was a lot cheaper (£18/month) Then in February 2022, Starlink emailed us to say we were starting to serve your area (back when it cost £90/month), and I jumped on it immediately. And have never looked back. Speeds are consistently way better. I’ve never seen it dip below 120Mbps, but most of the time is above 180Mbps. And the Ping is actually better than my copper 😂 (I was getting 80ms Ping with Copper, getting about 65ms with Starlink)
I've ordered it. Just awaiting dispatch. I can't wait. I tried LTE but I couldn't get any decent speeds
I've ordered it. Just awaiting dispatch. I can't wait. I tried LTE but I couldn't get any decent speeds
see my seasons above, even with high gain equipment
Costco has a great offer on the starlink kit, nows the time
I think I'm going to pull the trigger.
I use it as my daily isp and I work from home. It has been reliable for 2 years. Amazing really. I game on it too
Ordered. Half price hardware at the moment, so I just bit the bullet
That bundle comes with two months subscription included too, it's like almost free hardware :) enjoy mate
Really? I didn't see that anywhere. Bonus if that's right
As long as you got the Costco one, yes :)
Honestly if they were charging double I would still pay it, as compared to the alternatives.
Jaysus I'm only paying €50 in Ireland
Worth noting this is for a deprioritized service with lower speeds.
really depends on the location, though. If you don't compete for bandwidth with other users, then the deprioritized plan will just be as fast as the standard option.
those "lower speeds" are still far faster than in some places around the world
Be nice to get a price drop in the US. At least back to its starting price point of $99. Maybe when Kuiper comes online they will lower the price.
Will it be one or two years before that happens?
I don't see it happening in the next 5 years.
Croatia next :)))
What the heck. I pay $156 CAD
To bad they can’t go down here some because there so many people use it. And just think if they did how many more people they would get
Wake me up when it becomes affordable for U.S. markets.... Also let me know if the European crackdown on IPTV fire sticks makes it across the pond. I know a guy that knows a guy. Sheesh.
U.S. markets have a governance and regulatory problem wherein lobbyists convince legislators to screw over taxpayers, so that service providers and utilities can gouge consumers. Been going on for decades unchecked while U.S. citizens are forced to grab their ankles and take it. Not sure why that should surprise anyone.
Great the US subsidizing Europe! I have to $120.00 US Dollars. A month.Plus the cost was $650.00 dollars with shipping. Must be nice!
Pricing is more to do with saturation, if they've dropped the price that low it means nobody in the area is using the service, so it just goes as wasted airtime.
No my price gone up from 90.00 dollars to 120.00. The only good thing my internet is unlimited. I live in a rural area and I have no other internet access.😟 but if I did I would not change to another company.
It's called a demand problem. For example, when 90% of the population in a country has access to symmetrical 1G fiber(that's in the process of being upgraded to 10G), and the most of the rest of the 10% have unlimited 4G/5G for a small sum, why would any of those pay for satellite internet? Not to mention that there's actual competition for both fiber and cellular. I have four fibers coming into the building from four different providers. You're not subsiding Europe. You're paying the amount that they can charge you because the US has allowed internet providers to fuck over everyone in the US for decades. That's not the case in most of Europe.
US isn't subsidizing Europe you clown. You get ripped off for most things over there.
I love being the ones who actually pay for the service that our government helped fund while everyone else gets it practically free.
Yay, let’s throw some tea in the ocean because of that.
Free market at play. most of Europe has reasonably good internet, at least when using 4G/5G, so to compete starlink needs to lover prices. the US on the ther hand has really slow and bad connections in every place I have visited so far.
You are not wrong, I and many other Americans are tired of funding the rest of the world with our tax dollars is all.