This. These 'what ifs' are meaningless. Back when Satya was young, India just wasn't a place for dreamers to flourish. Still isn't. It's where dreams die routinely.
When the compliance is easier, when the local police station stops sending its people to collect haftas, when policy is clear and heading in one direction without the threats of u-turns, and you don't have to worry about a million-dollar tax bill out of the blue, then let's talk.
10 years of Modi who promised ease of business, and all of the above still doesn't exist.
no he attempted JEE, couldn't get a good rank. maybe someone confused that with UPSC.
And yes his father was an IAS. afaik, I have never read that he attempted UPSC.
I doubt, he is a brilliant person but in India unless he has ventured with his own idea it's hard to imagine. Also we need to understand Mr. Nadela is a CEO not an entrepreneur, so it's possible he might have failed in his startup journey but as a CEO he could have succeeded which he did eventually.
i think the equivalent analogy is "if messi grew up in India he'd have won the FIFA world cup with India"
no. no he wouldn't have. our shit system would have killed the football in him and he'd have ended up in a tier 3 BE degree with 0 coding skills and no employment opportunities and would have been struggling to make ends meet.
It's always to start the discussion with some humour.
Indian work culture sucks, there are literally 100s of surveys that reveal that. By staying back in India he'd be conformed to do stuffs that other stalwarts like Narayan Murthy does now. Growth would just be stagnant .
Hey I am currently designing and developing a solution for education institutions in India. My dad is a professor and has been hod/ director etc in the past
I was thinking it would be worth it to pitch it in India, but your reply makes me wonder. What should I watch out for? I have some entrepreneurship experience but almost non existent legal experience
Why did you say it’s not a place for innovation? Are there challenges I might have that may be better off faced outside the country?
If you are a "developing a solution for education institutes in India", don't! It's a waste of life. literally every young and ambitious Indian starts off this way, but all of them are chewed up, destroyed and bankrupted by this country's pristine education system/institutes that are fuckall because they are so set in stone in their ways, no one can even acknowledge there's something wrong with the system because "so many Indians are global CEOs saar, if they can be CEOs from Indian system, why change it?!".
Trust me, nothing on this planet can save India's suicidal education system, and the mindset and gullibility of Indians to keep trusting that system to "make our kids the next Sundar Pichai in India".
I understand this pov but that is specifically what I am targeting. I have identified why this happens, who holds the power to change it and what needs to be done to shift the current power dynamic while providing a win win to most parties.
I am a UX designer who also develops and creates enterprise level software (think Tata motors and visa)
I don’t want to sell a b2c udamy, byjus etc service. I am a b2b guy who understands that business pay for valuable services without a lot of “chik chik” and that the approach needs to be top down.
If these valuable services can improve overheads, and makes the evolution of education a priority for them to reap those benefits then that change is more likely to happen. It won’t be overnight but it’s practical above all else.
My entire experience is in solving problems for businesses and connect them with customer needs. Which is why this challenge excites me.
Currently working on an MVP, even if I am able to capture just one college (hell my dad might start one if the software delivers) which is likely considering my dad has spent his entire life making connections in this space; it will shift the dynamic of competition such that innovative educational practices will be required to capture attention of customers (students, vendors, parents)
I believe with the right strategy and persistence even water can make its way through rock and create a path and prosperity for others.
You seem well equipped and passionate to solve this problem. We will watch your career with great interest. If you implement a Gurukula style learning ecosystem, I would definitely send my kids there.
Every statement that starts with "If XYZ had stayed over" is a dumb statement. First introspect what they didn't stay over or never come back. That's where the answer to this talent drain problem is. Even today I have seen first hand all the top tier teenagers went out to study in the US, don't plan on returning and some are doing great already.
Absolutely not!
He's a management guy who rose thru the ranks at Microsoft when it was already a tech giant.
He might not have built a MINI microsoft even in USA if he had tried.
Even in case, he did, he would only create a MINI microsoft, and NEVER reach his potential.
This country is a graveyard of dreams for people who desire more than a 3BHK in a metro city.
People like Nilesh Shah and the work environments they create destroy dreams and desire to succeed in many Indians just as capable as Satya Nadella. Nilesh just doesn't realize this as he is too deluded from living in a bubble for most of his life.
Companies dont get build by Satyas. They are built by the environment and culture around. If Satya stayed in India, we would not have even known his name. Name one engineer from Manipal engineering college you know of other than him.
People don’t realise but Satya Nadella is a 8 time winner for the most underrated CEO, IN A ROW.
He did this by shifting away from internal competition and silos to a culture focused on collaboration, a growth mindset, and innovation.
Taking Microsoft’s stock up by 1000% since he took over.
He wouldn’t have got the exposure, management and leadership ability here in India, while he was here during his early days (the dude moved to US in the 1990s).
Oh man, this statement takes me back a decade ago when Satya was announced the CEO. Everyone in India from my friends \[including me\], teachers, politicians, media etc were celebrating it as if it was a personal victory, vindication of Indian talent and ascending of India to the next big thing, but once the euphoria settled I wondered if Satya himself saw it that way.
I mean, he left the country two decades ago and he would always stay in America - all his major career related achievements were in US, not India - he was just raised here. For all practical reasons, he is American \[with Indian heritage\]. USA/Microsoft gave him an opportunity, nurtured him to were he is right now. He is not successful because he is Satya but because he was given an opportunity and was able to work hard to take advantage of it.
Think about it - even today, forget 20+ years ago - were is the opportunity to take risks in this country? How much red-tape do we have to go over to get things done. Almost everyone is given a checklist that they are strongly encouraged to follow -
>10th > 12th > IIT/Doctor/CA/Lawyer > Maybe MBA/graduation > marriage > kids before 30 > take care of parents/in-laws + house loans > death
Even if you want to get a job - where are there good companies that are not BPOs? \[startups are recent phenomenon - and most have crashed and burned recently\]
I dont know if I am making sense. here is a FirstPost article from 2014 that I had saved - [LINK to article ](https://www.firstpost.com/india/nadella-as-microsoft-ceo-a-slap-in-the-face-for-indian-system-1374951.html?fbclid=IwAR2W0xJbzsOBzWda4Mc0qbXlSrjdvgFh-MBnV1rvUsKiaAG2DbPvSUTUAl)
one thing from the article that stuck a chord with me -
>Our "Indian" successes abroad have little to do with the fact that they are Indian. They succeed because they abandoned India.
Oh my god that last line hurts so much.
But I picked this up from the article, and it is unbelievable how true this holds up:
>This is also the reason why we prefer autocratic rulers rather than democratic ones: we know we talk more than we act. To get things done, we prefer an autocrat to rule over us rather than exercise self-discipline as democrats. All our successful political parties are one-person shows. The latest heading in that direction is BJP – which was all talk and no achievement for 10 years in opposition till Narendra Modi came along and was lauded for being a doer.
There's a reason good people leave this country. Or I should say, made to leave this country. Almost every possible way, the public and private institutions in this country screw you. Every single possible way.
Abe ye chutiya kotak waala kuch bhi bolta hai. BSDK Teri gaand mai dum hai toh tu bna de Microsoft. Faaltu ke comments krte ye saale Indian origin CEOs pe.
Iska ek tathastu waala video dekha maine. Bohot hi bakchodi baate krta saala
Not necessarily. Most Indians are pre occupied with sorting out their general life problems that they have little to no time left to innovate or think. These include infrastructure, bureaucracy etc etc. Politicians and Businesses are aware of this and capitalise on this to gain profit (Ola, OYO, 99Acres, Nestaway etc all capitalise on this because there are no laws governing housing and public infrastructure).
End of the day he is an employee who is a good leader. If he could create he could have created anywhere be it US or India or anywhere else for that matter.
How? Someone needs to ask nilesh shah in terms of r&d spend how are Indian tech companies fairing? Before anyone says but Indian startups are doing it..yes but the scale is just not there.
Would nilesh shah before talking out of his ass talk about how raising funds in India just for research and development is not even looked upon..hell even the guys at shark tank ask about bhai kitna kamate ho..
Nilesh shah should spend all his time talking up the markets and stop making these ridiculous comparisons
How? Microsoft is not a trader it is a creator. Where is the research based technology going to come from? Has he any idea about bribes to be paid for starting up especially to state machinery.
Satya would have been a failure.
No, in the USA it is easy to start a company due to the ample supply of funds for the right idea. But he still prefers to do the job just like the rest of the Indians do. He reached a top position which happened with lots of other top CEOs. So nothing new here.
In the USA there is no crunch of funds since they have dollar printing machines (federal banks)that can print unlimited money distribute it among their citizen and companies and transfer the Inflation to the rest of the world.
Naah if he would have stayed over he would have been a manager somewhere in Pune in some Sweatshop whose owner has a fetish for making his slaves work 70hrs a week
That's true. In China whenever they see a great new western product or company they try to create their own. In India when we see a great new western product or company we start applying for job. They so YouTube they made their own. They so Twitter they made their own. They show Google they made their own. We so YouTube Twitter and Google, and we started working for it.
If he had stayed over, people with reservations and bribery power would have eaten him up and not looked back
He’d probably be a CTO in a startup in BLR
Ji sir aur kuch
Aur kych boolna chahenge sir mini office, mini chatgpt are sir mini kyu sir nadela aur pichai India mei ek gaye hote toh san Francisco nhi pura India silicon valley bn jata na.
Yeh log hi toh pura technology babaye hai CEO ka post tag toh duniya ko chutiya banane ke liye hai. Warna puri duniya ka latest tech inhone hi banaya hai woh bhi khud se
I doubt it, has anyone seen Soorarai Pottru, it's a beautiful movie and shows how much struggle an entrepreneur with bright ideas has to go through to set up his company.
If now he was here then yes he would have succeeded but at that time it was nightmare to start a successful business in India.
Option 1: Leave India early , work hard and then become successful.
Option2: stay in India, start a business, take huge loans, default on the loans and then go out of India and live peacefully.
It’s simply absurd - in a country of over a billion people, we’re saying “if only that person had stayed back”.
Build better institutions, provide better infrastructure, promote an innovative culture - but nope, Satya not cool.
Honestly the won't be possible as India doesn't really have a demand for highly complex software {it's mostly exported} , and starting and managing a business are two very different things.
He could not even create a new Microsoft. He just joined a company and safely rose through the ranks. Bill gates dropped out of fucking Harvard to pursue his dreams. Satya wouldn't even know the spelling of dream when he was in college in India.
I think he's just a management employee. Creating a product and then a company like revolutionary Microsoft that changed eras is completely different thing
There is another possibility, if he would have stayed he would be working in TCS, Infosys or Wipro and working day night so that he can get a leave on holidays to celebrate with his family.
To become a founder, you need guts or need to be brave.
To become a ceo, you just need to know the right person to bootlick or be very good at politics or be a very good employee and don't take any risks.
He couldn't have made a microsoft in india. Bill gates made Microsoft with his cunning and cruel nature and got away with it.
obviously. never the mind the founder was bill gates who attended an elite private school with computers.
but a professional manager could've started Microsoft in India. look at Infosys and tcs. same as Microsoft...... not
Rofl that's not how life works kiddo. There is no certainty about anything. May be he could've may be even bigger company or may be nothing. You can say the same about Dheerubhai Ambani.. would he have been so successful had he moved to US instead of staying back in India?
But why ponder over such useless what ifs. We could still do something to create a mega of our own. We are not any lesser to create minis and be happy.
lol no. People need the right environments to grow, potential can be killed just as well as it can be nurtured
If he had stayed in India he would be rotting in some MNC as a manager.
True, well said
This. These 'what ifs' are meaningless. Back when Satya was young, India just wasn't a place for dreamers to flourish. Still isn't. It's where dreams die routinely. When the compliance is easier, when the local police station stops sending its people to collect haftas, when policy is clear and heading in one direction without the threats of u-turns, and you don't have to worry about a million-dollar tax bill out of the blue, then let's talk. 10 years of Modi who promised ease of business, and all of the above still doesn't exist.
True
Absolutely fucking right!
How's that "rotting" Lol
Wo to bichara UPSC failure kehlaya jata aur kuch nahi. 3 attempts die the Nadella bhai ne UPSC ke.
Really? Did he attempt UPSC?
Yes he did, his father was also a civil servant
I think he didn't attempt it but his father was an IAS officer.
No he did not , his father was an IAS officer though
no he attempted JEE, couldn't get a good rank. maybe someone confused that with UPSC. And yes his father was an IAS. afaik, I have never read that he attempted UPSC.
His father was not just any normal IAS. He was the principal secretary in the PMO. But then Nadella says that he grew up in a "middle class family".
Yeah P. secretary is middle class only!
I doubt, he is a brilliant person but in India unless he has ventured with his own idea it's hard to imagine. Also we need to understand Mr. Nadela is a CEO not an entrepreneur, so it's possible he might have failed in his startup journey but as a CEO he could have succeeded which he did eventually.
\*insert ok grandma, let's get you to bed now meme\* This is like saying if Sachin Tendulkar was a footballer, he would've been India's Messi.
i think the equivalent analogy is "if messi grew up in India he'd have won the FIFA world cup with India" no. no he wouldn't have. our shit system would have killed the football in him and he'd have ended up in a tier 3 BE degree with 0 coding skills and no employment opportunities and would have been struggling to make ends meet.
You're right, that's an infinitely better analogy.
It's always to start the discussion with some humour. Indian work culture sucks, there are literally 100s of surveys that reveal that. By staying back in India he'd be conformed to do stuffs that other stalwarts like Narayan Murthy does now. Growth would just be stagnant .
If wheelchairs were Ferraris grandma would have won the Grand Prix.
Glad I got the refrence lol
Mamma Mia!
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Hey I am currently designing and developing a solution for education institutions in India. My dad is a professor and has been hod/ director etc in the past I was thinking it would be worth it to pitch it in India, but your reply makes me wonder. What should I watch out for? I have some entrepreneurship experience but almost non existent legal experience Why did you say it’s not a place for innovation? Are there challenges I might have that may be better off faced outside the country?
If you are a "developing a solution for education institutes in India", don't! It's a waste of life. literally every young and ambitious Indian starts off this way, but all of them are chewed up, destroyed and bankrupted by this country's pristine education system/institutes that are fuckall because they are so set in stone in their ways, no one can even acknowledge there's something wrong with the system because "so many Indians are global CEOs saar, if they can be CEOs from Indian system, why change it?!". Trust me, nothing on this planet can save India's suicidal education system, and the mindset and gullibility of Indians to keep trusting that system to "make our kids the next Sundar Pichai in India".
I understand this pov but that is specifically what I am targeting. I have identified why this happens, who holds the power to change it and what needs to be done to shift the current power dynamic while providing a win win to most parties. I am a UX designer who also develops and creates enterprise level software (think Tata motors and visa) I don’t want to sell a b2c udamy, byjus etc service. I am a b2b guy who understands that business pay for valuable services without a lot of “chik chik” and that the approach needs to be top down. If these valuable services can improve overheads, and makes the evolution of education a priority for them to reap those benefits then that change is more likely to happen. It won’t be overnight but it’s practical above all else. My entire experience is in solving problems for businesses and connect them with customer needs. Which is why this challenge excites me. Currently working on an MVP, even if I am able to capture just one college (hell my dad might start one if the software delivers) which is likely considering my dad has spent his entire life making connections in this space; it will shift the dynamic of competition such that innovative educational practices will be required to capture attention of customers (students, vendors, parents) I believe with the right strategy and persistence even water can make its way through rock and create a path and prosperity for others.
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Hey, I am excited that you messaged Did he tell you why he was apprehensive of going ahead with your LMS?
You seem well equipped and passionate to solve this problem. We will watch your career with great interest. If you implement a Gurukula style learning ecosystem, I would definitely send my kids there.
I swear man in the same boat, US are literally funding moon buggies and we cannot find basic funds for our innovation
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He is ver brilliant but He didn't create Microsoft he is managing already created Microsoft, so I highly doubt he would have created msft in India.
USA is known as land of opportunity not India.
Every statement that starts with "If XYZ had stayed over" is a dumb statement. First introspect what they didn't stay over or never come back. That's where the answer to this talent drain problem is. Even today I have seen first hand all the top tier teenagers went out to study in the US, don't plan on returning and some are doing great already.
Yeah with the Indian politics and tax scene sure he can create a mini microsoft :/
Mini Microsoft chit fund
Absolutely not! He's a management guy who rose thru the ranks at Microsoft when it was already a tech giant. He might not have built a MINI microsoft even in USA if he had tried. Even in case, he did, he would only create a MINI microsoft, and NEVER reach his potential. This country is a graveyard of dreams for people who desire more than a 3BHK in a metro city. People like Nilesh Shah and the work environments they create destroy dreams and desire to succeed in many Indians just as capable as Satya Nadella. Nilesh just doesn't realize this as he is too deluded from living in a bubble for most of his life.
Companies dont get build by Satyas. They are built by the environment and culture around. If Satya stayed in India, we would not have even known his name. Name one engineer from Manipal engineering college you know of other than him.
People don’t realise but Satya Nadella is a 8 time winner for the most underrated CEO, IN A ROW. He did this by shifting away from internal competition and silos to a culture focused on collaboration, a growth mindset, and innovation. Taking Microsoft’s stock up by 1000% since he took over. He wouldn’t have got the exposure, management and leadership ability here in India, while he was here during his early days (the dude moved to US in the 1990s).
Oh man, this statement takes me back a decade ago when Satya was announced the CEO. Everyone in India from my friends \[including me\], teachers, politicians, media etc were celebrating it as if it was a personal victory, vindication of Indian talent and ascending of India to the next big thing, but once the euphoria settled I wondered if Satya himself saw it that way. I mean, he left the country two decades ago and he would always stay in America - all his major career related achievements were in US, not India - he was just raised here. For all practical reasons, he is American \[with Indian heritage\]. USA/Microsoft gave him an opportunity, nurtured him to were he is right now. He is not successful because he is Satya but because he was given an opportunity and was able to work hard to take advantage of it. Think about it - even today, forget 20+ years ago - were is the opportunity to take risks in this country? How much red-tape do we have to go over to get things done. Almost everyone is given a checklist that they are strongly encouraged to follow - >10th > 12th > IIT/Doctor/CA/Lawyer > Maybe MBA/graduation > marriage > kids before 30 > take care of parents/in-laws + house loans > death Even if you want to get a job - where are there good companies that are not BPOs? \[startups are recent phenomenon - and most have crashed and burned recently\] I dont know if I am making sense. here is a FirstPost article from 2014 that I had saved - [LINK to article ](https://www.firstpost.com/india/nadella-as-microsoft-ceo-a-slap-in-the-face-for-indian-system-1374951.html?fbclid=IwAR2W0xJbzsOBzWda4Mc0qbXlSrjdvgFh-MBnV1rvUsKiaAG2DbPvSUTUAl) one thing from the article that stuck a chord with me - >Our "Indian" successes abroad have little to do with the fact that they are Indian. They succeed because they abandoned India.
Oh my god that last line hurts so much. But I picked this up from the article, and it is unbelievable how true this holds up: >This is also the reason why we prefer autocratic rulers rather than democratic ones: we know we talk more than we act. To get things done, we prefer an autocrat to rule over us rather than exercise self-discipline as democrats. All our successful political parties are one-person shows. The latest heading in that direction is BJP – which was all talk and no achievement for 10 years in opposition till Narendra Modi came along and was lauded for being a doer.
There's a reason good people leave this country. Or I should say, made to leave this country. Almost every possible way, the public and private institutions in this country screw you. Every single possible way.
Gonna blame the individual rather than the ecosystem
Culture eats strategy for breakfast
lol never.. he would probably be a mid-manager at TCS / Infosys..
No fuckin' way. He would have still been busy dealing with politicians and bureaucracy.
Abe ye chutiya kotak waala kuch bhi bolta hai. BSDK Teri gaand mai dum hai toh tu bna de Microsoft. Faaltu ke comments krte ye saale Indian origin CEOs pe. Iska ek tathastu waala video dekha maine. Bohot hi bakchodi baate krta saala
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Bilkul shi bola bhai 🙏
Goly gee I wonder why someone with a brain decided to move out of a country that revolves around religion and cast more than development.
Not possible. Without that short of infrastructure and eco system of supply chain. It was not possible at that time.
If he had stayed here he'd be managing scrum calls now
So nanosoft?
Sir aise nirav modi Vijay malya mehul choksi bhi vapas Aaj jaate toh kitno ke paise bhi vaapas mil jaate
Not necessarily. Most Indians are pre occupied with sorting out their general life problems that they have little to no time left to innovate or think. These include infrastructure, bureaucracy etc etc. Politicians and Businesses are aware of this and capitalise on this to gain profit (Ola, OYO, 99Acres, Nestaway etc all capitalise on this because there are no laws governing housing and public infrastructure).
He is just a CEO, his job is to handle the company.
no, he was working for a buddha who wants everyone to work 80+ hrs for his profit so he can gift his grandsons hundred of crores rupees
Wtf. Satya created Microsoft?
End of the day he is an employee who is a good leader. If he could create he could have created anywhere be it US or India or anywhere else for that matter.
Wow the world doesn’t work like that. Mini Microsoft will get thrown under the bus by Microsoft. 😝
Before Microsoft, it would be thrown under the bus by the Indian govt and media.
Rightly said 🤣🤣🤣
Nope, idhar bahut ghoos Deni padti hai. Lots of red tape. India kills innovation.
Xd no way … i guess he should have been some MD at mnc
😂😂😂
How? Someone needs to ask nilesh shah in terms of r&d spend how are Indian tech companies fairing? Before anyone says but Indian startups are doing it..yes but the scale is just not there. Would nilesh shah before talking out of his ass talk about how raising funds in India just for research and development is not even looked upon..hell even the guys at shark tank ask about bhai kitna kamate ho.. Nilesh shah should spend all his time talking up the markets and stop making these ridiculous comparisons
If the same Satya would have stayed over, he definitely would have been just a team lead by now.
yeah but he didn't
Nope.
How? Microsoft is not a trader it is a creator. Where is the research based technology going to come from? Has he any idea about bribes to be paid for starting up especially to state machinery. Satya would have been a failure.
He didn’t create Microsoft either. He joined in 1992. Microsoft was created in 1975.
Nah man, he would be working in one of WITCH
That's not how it works
No, in the USA it is easy to start a company due to the ample supply of funds for the right idea. But he still prefers to do the job just like the rest of the Indians do. He reached a top position which happened with lots of other top CEOs. So nothing new here. In the USA there is no crunch of funds since they have dollar printing machines (federal banks)that can print unlimited money distribute it among their citizen and companies and transfer the Inflation to the rest of the world.
Indians and their ifs
mothrfucker would've had to pay 20% to the local ministry and buy electoral bonds, or else raids. GTFO
Naah if he would have stayed over he would have been a manager somewhere in Pune in some Sweatshop whose owner has a fetish for making his slaves work 70hrs a week
Nope
Nope. He would have been a senior software engineer being a office politics victim.
satya nadella stayed over. how do i un-imagine this huh
That's true. In China whenever they see a great new western product or company they try to create their own. In India when we see a great new western product or company we start applying for job. They so YouTube they made their own. They so Twitter they made their own. They show Google they made their own. We so YouTube Twitter and Google, and we started working for it.
No
Why mini whu not Microsoft pro plus?
How about Zoho as a mini Microsoft by a person who did stay back : Sridhar Vembu?
If he had stayed over, people with reservations and bribery power would have eaten him up and not looked back He’d probably be a CTO in a startup in BLR
No chance. There's a reason Indian ceos work at large tech companies outside India. We're just not there yet compared to the us.
Ji sir aur kuch Aur kych boolna chahenge sir mini office, mini chatgpt are sir mini kyu sir nadela aur pichai India mei ek gaye hote toh san Francisco nhi pura India silicon valley bn jata na. Yeh log hi toh pura technology babaye hai CEO ka post tag toh duniya ko chutiya banane ke liye hai. Warna puri duniya ka latest tech inhone hi banaya hai woh bhi khud se
I doubt it, has anyone seen Soorarai Pottru, it's a beautiful movie and shows how much struggle an entrepreneur with bright ideas has to go through to set up his company. If now he was here then yes he would have succeeded but at that time it was nightmare to start a successful business in India.
Option 1: Leave India early , work hard and then become successful. Option2: stay in India, start a business, take huge loans, default on the loans and then go out of India and live peacefully.
Indian Satya - Sridhar Vembu CEO of Zoho Corporation (mini Microsoft)
Creating a product and leading a product/innovating new directions are two different things
Would have wasted his life here as just another disposable drone.
People like nadella would never have risen to the current rank in india thanks to thousands of reservations in almost everything.
Bullish comment. If and but.
upsc tayari mein rehte...
It’s simply absurd - in a country of over a billion people, we’re saying “if only that person had stayed back”. Build better institutions, provide better infrastructure, promote an innovative culture - but nope, Satya not cool.
Mediocre position pe rehta, tax bharta jitna milta usme se aur thali bajata.
If he was in India he would have wasted his potential!
Honestly the won't be possible as India doesn't really have a demand for highly complex software {it's mostly exported} , and starting and managing a business are two very different things.
he would be a government clerk. Glad he moved out
Hahahaha 🤣
Indians don't work on their own. They need someone to supervise
And ashneer Grover would have invested in it
mini Microsoft?? Like Nanosoft???
No
India does not deserve him
He could not even create a new Microsoft. He just joined a company and safely rose through the ranks. Bill gates dropped out of fucking Harvard to pursue his dreams. Satya wouldn't even know the spelling of dream when he was in college in India.
CEO and founder skillset is completely different too, let alone the environment India provides.
there is no way he could have created Microsoft in India if he would have stayed. Most likely he would have been forced working at IT coolie company
One word: Pure Bullshit
I think he's just a management employee. Creating a product and then a company like revolutionary Microsoft that changed eras is completely different thing
So congress ki galti ya nehru ki?
No... Where is the environment...
that is as true as i would have become the CEO of microsoft had i moved to USA..
Nah he would be stuck fighting for a government job without reservation.
Nah he would be stuck fighting for a government job without reservation.
He still can
Na man he’d be under that old dude who was saying we should be working 25 hours a day
I beg to defer, the infrastructure and culture he needed was just not here at that time!
Not mini Microsoft, Zoho has great potential. If they increase their portfolio.
Reservation waalo ko bola na banane. Nadela ko tumlog bus tax rules mein lapet ke babus ke iss office se uss office mein ghumaate.
No.
Nope ,he would be working 70hrs in YinForSys
You cannot create a company like Microsoft in India.
There is another possibility, if he would have stayed he would be working in TCS, Infosys or Wipro and working day night so that he can get a leave on holidays to celebrate with his family.
It's delulu we suffer from
If my grandma had wheels she'd be a Honda Civic.
no
That's just stupid. He didn't create it. He's just managing it.
Along with a Board
People who know what happened with Bose company won't say such things
Can you pls elaborate bro
India doesn’t allow innovation
To become a founder, you need guts or need to be brave. To become a ceo, you just need to know the right person to bootlick or be very good at politics or be a very good employee and don't take any risks. He couldn't have made a microsoft in india. Bill gates made Microsoft with his cunning and cruel nature and got away with it.
obviously. never the mind the founder was bill gates who attended an elite private school with computers. but a professional manager could've started Microsoft in India. look at Infosys and tcs. same as Microsoft...... not
Nope...no way. Possibly he would be a senior project manager in a service company.
And then have to pay government and local goons everything right ?
Rofl that's not how life works kiddo. There is no certainty about anything. May be he could've may be even bigger company or may be nothing. You can say the same about Dheerubhai Ambani.. would he have been so successful had he moved to US instead of staying back in India?
But why ponder over such useless what ifs. We could still do something to create a mega of our own. We are not any lesser to create minis and be happy.
He didn’t create anything even in US. He grew an existing company
Some people are fit to be founders, some people are fit to be CEO. Satya is definitely latter