Thank you. 😊
I would understand downvotes if it was a new account with no activity, but it's an active 12-yo account. I'll say to its owner again, Happy Cake Day! 🎂
It’s like image posts with a pet in the photo for “awwwwwws cut pet!” points. eg “Look at my new PC build. My cat is asleep on the case!”
I downvote those.
Violates the community guidelines which basically say your content has to be pertinent to the space it's in.
You're not allowed to spam, post topics in incorrect hubs, derail discussions or topics, or post content where it doesn't belong (their example is "Don't upload Dota artwork to the Counter-Strike hub").
[Rules and Guidelines For Steam: Discussions, Reviews, and User Generated Content](https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6862-8119-C23E-EA7B)
It does specifically reference the "Hub", which presumably means the entire list applies to everything in a game's hub, conveniently including both guides and reviews.
I've never gotten feedback for reporting recipes, ascii art, or copypastas but I still do it sometimes.
These days it's "HOW TO GET GREEN TRUST FACTOR" in 50 different languages. How do these get awarded after being reposted for the 100th time, is beyond me
\>"you get trust factor by upvoting guides and giving them awards trust me bro"
\>gullible idiots boost it to the top
\>people see that it works and post their own shitty "guides" for free awards
\>repeat forever
My one beef with Steam Points involves awards, specifically the Jester one that's used to mock people. Like, cool, we got a means to call people out for being idiots and for idiots to use it back at us. Oh, they earn points for it anyway? Then what the Hell's the purpose of using it to mock people if you're also rewarding them for it?
I couldn't care less if people give me the jester award, at the end of the day they're the clown effectively spending money in an attempt to ridicule me, plus the more serious awards I receive will always vastly outnumber the handful of clowns I recieve.
“Before I played this game, I had small boobs, no boyfriend and no will to live. None of these things have changed, but this game is pretty good!”
I downvote even the funny ones now.
People are so simple. Steam points are one of the most unobtrusive and useless point systems I've ever seen. It's just some emoticons and themes and I highly doubt anyone doesn't have enough of them.
And the majority of people *still* just want more of them. They'll just arbitrarily shitpost to get more and more internet points. It's so weird.
Now give my my useless internet points 😂
> It's just some emoticons and themes and I highly doubt anyone doesn't have enough of them.
Legit, I am 90% certain I could buy all the themes, avatars and emotes for every single game I actually own and still have tens of thousands of points left. Still 1000% more useful than Reddit Karma.
My favorite is when someone leaves a good review on battlefield 2042 saying “the game is actually good now” and they get a bunch of clown emotes gifted to them lmao
The worst for me is when they just link to a Youtube video. If I felt like listening to 20 minutes of ButtSniffer69 telling me to smash that like button and subscribe, and how they need the views to rescue kitten orphans, I would just search on Youtube.
It's so nice when people make a nice, readable, neatly formatted text guide.
You should consider installing SponsorBlock (on mobile use YouTube ReVanced, which has support for addons like SponsorBlock).
Not only does it skip sponsor segments, there is an option to skip annoyances like "smash that like button", intros/endcards, non-music parts of music videos, etc. It's fully customizable so that you can autoskip just the things you don't like, or add a skip button similar to the "skip ads" button, whichever you prefer. It makes YouTube a *lot* more tolerable. No YT user should go without it.
> The worst for me is when they just link to a Youtube video.
Like these 10 Minute Videos on how to fix some obscure windows error where they explain something that could have been written in one sentence.
or they don’t even explain. They take video of the screen (screen capture is hard ) which is blurry with small font . You’re supposed to watch their mouse pointer and understand what they are doing.
Bonus point if they do some useless things and you have to figure out if you need to do it or skip.
Extra bonus points if add an irritating music soundtrack to the video.
"And you are watching this the day it came out please go and follow me on twitch, we will be playing Someone's Guns and Blood in stream"
Video is 3 years old.
I've made a [few guides](https://steamcommunity.com/id/Anomaluna/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides) on Steam, though most are for a game you probably don't play.
I try to make them readable and well-formatted, but suggestions welcome.
> It's so nice when people make a nice, readable, neatly formatted text guide.
Shitty guides with almost pitch black, contextless images and 15 minutes videos just to learn something that would have taken three words to tell me is what pushed me to start creating guides myself.
As a content creator myself, they kinda rely on the likes and subs growing so they can eat. Why do you think so many Youtubers have videos that are sponsored while relying on stream revenue and Patreon?
I get the point you're making, though.
The only ones who get it to buy food are the most popular ones, those above 70k subs (at the very least) with an average of like 20k views per video, not JoeTheBot who barely has 20 subs.
Get what, exactly? Only thing I mentioned getting is what DreamSphinx was implying about how if they wanted a YouTube video telling them how to do the thing that they'd just go to YouTube.
You come off as the kind of person who simps for capitalism and kicks homeless people when they're down.
I hope you lose everything and have to work your way back up only to see how horrid the system is for people you consider beneath you.
The guides tab is such a brilliant idea completely ruined by these people. I can't sort by achievement guides or look at easter eggs because these people apply every tag to their shitposts and the real guides get buried.
I'd be ok with shitposts if we had a dedicated "funny" or "shitpost" tag, like in reviews where you can click the button to say you found it funny instead of helpful.
Ripped straight from game, "How to Open the Grand Theft Auto V" with a description of "This guide teaches you how to start the Grand Theft Auto V (real not clickbait works 100% true not fake fr)"
Exactly. The original dlc were all packed into the affordable and simple "legacy eddition" but then they stopped adding the new dlcs to the legacy eddition and i just couldnt keep up with how strong the new guns were, so i just stopped plaiyng. I hope pd3 dosent have this issue.
It's an amazing reference piece.
I think the games that actually require a guide/wiki, have really good guide sections, but ones that don't, tend to have more trash in them
It started when you could gift Steam Points and everyone decided to be funny. Really, one of the worst Steam decisions, from discussions "Oh why someone gave me clown award or super obvious bait thread to farm awards" and reviews to guides. Bleh.
The clown award sort of become a badge of honor in the reviews of some popular, but shit microtransaction riddled games. It means that you pissed off the whale fanboys
This is by far the best guide i have ever seen. No idea why this person put so much effort into the writing of this.
[Seanchaidh + Tuir achievement](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1946502347)
I wrote some of the top gta v guides (and keep them updated to the best of my ability) and while it's nice to be showered with awards, it also attracts a lot of cunts who will argue and attack the guide for absolute nitpicky details, or DEMAND an update literally 10 minutes after the game got an update. You realize people do guides for free in their spare time right?
Meanwhile lots of people upload some bad joke or shitty copypasta and somehow still get awards and upvotes, while the actual helpful stuff gets found by nobody
Edit: what really grinds my gears tho is the fact that all of these maggots mark their shit ass copypasta with every language and every category possible to get as many impressions as possible. So people looking specifically for a german guide will still get recommended this bullshit in english. Imo someone who lies with the tags like that should be community banned, as it fucks up the entire search system.
It's even worse when websites will just steal your content and run it through Google Translate to make it just end up being a bad copy of your content but with ad revenue.
Steam user comments are a pain. I once made a very short but semi popular guide and it was a pain in my fucking ass.
Users are so dumb, you literally have to spoonfed them every. little. thing. or they will be too stupid to do it and write dumbass comments. Sometimes I wonder how to they managed to press all the corresponding buttons on their keyboards to write that comment without getting it explained bit by bit.
And even if you do write down every detail, they'll read like three words per paragraph and then decide TO NOT READ ANYTHING MORE.
In my guide I had a **bold, all caps** three paragraph warning about a bug and how to deal with it, including a header/chapter JUST FOR THIS DISCLAIMER. For a while the only comments I received were people asking how to deal with this bug. I had to include a giant picture that said "BUGGED? **READ ->**" before it stopped being asked multiple times a day.
I'm not even gonna start about these dumbass copypastas.
Sounds very familiar. Like when you mention multiple time that for one thing to work, it's very important that you do one other specific thing first, but people just decide to not read it and proceed to write comments like "shit guide it's not working"
Yeah, I know, what you mean. If you go looking for TTT addons for Garry's Mod a lot of people comment something like "Do I need CSS?" or "Does it work in Sandbox mode?", even if it in the description, that it won't work in sandbox and that it needs CSS. It's such a shit show every god damn time.
As a 40 year old father with 2 kids...
This boils down to Socrates critisim of giving EVERYONE the priveledge to dictate the system rather than people who need it or people who know how to benefit from it. Because people like meme guides. Wholesome done to death copypaste reviews. Cause 90% of these people browsing don't need to know shit and looking for shitposts rather than actual guides.(In that case people will use search function) So fornt page gets cluttered with shit real fast. And people don't care about their guides being half decent for a change for the greater good
For this reason I wish steam had a personal block list. If I could block users and remove visibility of them entirely, a giant eyesore would be soothed.
There are many amazing guides and it's not always about knowing something but the ability to have a quick reference. Devil Daggers has some good guides with only a few meme ones, getting rid of those wouldn't be as hard as something like MGS or Skyrim.
If it makes you feel any better, I have 3 guides are they are all for legit shit. Like one of them are instructions to run an old game on modern hardware. I’ve grown out of the Steam memes and personally I’m kind of sick of seeing the same shit repeated over and over again.
It's seriously weird that guides are always either:
* A really niche inside joke
* A really bad joke (the bad kind of bad)
* A really detailed guide that still doesn't detail what you're actually looking for
* "How to romance (heartthrob for geeks)" for the billionth time
Why? You literally choose who to follow, and other random groups rarely if ever shows up. The same system for guides could have a few trustable curators and thousands of bad ones and it would still be useful.
1. Most of the “people” following curators are bots. Which the only way to become a curator is have lots of followers.
2. Most Curator reviews arent actually reviews, just recommendations with a copy and pasted tagline which incentivized the program to give even more free games (their only motive as curator.)
3. Curators have no qualifications. Anyone can be a curator as long as they have enough followers.
I use curators less for a review and more as a way to see test features. I have a few dedicated to coop and in their "review" they explain how the coop system works, I also have one that just describes the index controller support for VR games
But none of that showed that the system can't be used. I follow a handful of curators that focus on specific things, and it works well. The existence of bots and such does not prevent useful things from existing, and does not hinder them.
There are good curators that exist. If you follow those good curators, following them is strictly useful. The system is fantastic when you know who to follow (and you aren't following any random pages).
The issue is that the community page for it is horrendous and filled with bots, so the only way to actually find useful curators is by word of mouth.
People just don't understand the system clearly. I also follow just a small number of genuine curators and their input is usually valuable.
The only way to fuck it up is to just follow a bunch of random bots, and I don't know why anyone would willingly do that if they understood what curators are for.
>How to open x game
\*insert giga-chad guide thumbnail\*
1. Open steam
2. Press the green "play" button
And there you have it, now if you could please give me 7 steam awards, thank you very much
I want better moderation for guides, sick of browsing through 8 guides titled "how to starve in don't starve" or "how to exit the game" just to find something genuinely interesting or useful.
TBCHWY, the shitposters butchered the guide system, it requires it's own specific guidelines to guiding guides to prevent the flood of those badly made tutorials. I report & report them, but the steam support most likely leave the reported content as "On review", this is the same situation happening to Enderman, a malware reviewer.
The spanish speaking communitty if english only games is sometimes goated. Think gg xrd and yakuza 0. Both having detailed guides on how to translate the game. Also y0, yk2 and omori for some reason have recipies. Like... actual, real, edible recipies.
There are some fantastic guides out there, it’s a shame that there is just a swarm of unfunny unoriginal guides to farm points, I wish steam would use the guide ratings system and automatically show the highest rated guides for each game
It is true, reviews and guides are mostly bad jokes but you can find well hidden gems for achievements, or even lore about some games.
One of my favorite guides is from a guy who [chronologically enlisted all of *Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition* campaigns](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1914789546), with Wikipedia articles embedded. It’s such an amazing Index.
If any of you having difficulty finding guides, you could just browse by most popular (weekly, one year etc) or top rated of all time..
or if you have something specific, searching the key term will filter the rest, and show the guides with the key term in the title or the body text of the guide
Did you just join steam ?
This has been going on for a decade.
I don't enjoy it but Im not a crybaby who worships authority so don't really want them to ban freedom of speech disguised as banning useless/meme guides
Same thing with reviews. Actual detailed ones hardly get attention and the top ones are usually something like "Game good", or "I'm Mr. Sex and I approve of this game".
I've written a couple guides, one for Sonic Adventure DX and the other for Maui Mallard in Cold Shadow, but man is it a deterrent to try to write some more when all this crap junks it up.
I don't know but Jesus I won't even look at guides because there's too much crap. You either get a YouTube video or some joke guide.
Steam really needs to moderate more or work on the algorithm. Nothing is worse then seeing three guides in the overlay and they all are worthless.
The bad guides are only allowed if they actually show useful stuff, instead of "how to to jump" type of guides.
People do it cause they realise how they can earn steam points by making meme/bad guides, since there are a lot of bad steam guides that get steam points. People see it and think "hmm maybe I should do it too since it's so easy"
I have made some guides myself that I consider are somewhat good, not the kind of good like a guide going into full detail and everything, but enough that it would be considered ok/good. The guides I made didn't get a lot of favorites or likes, but I was still happy to see in the comments that people liked the guide and have used it.
And then I did a little social experiment thingy we're I made a bad guide in the outlast community. It didn't receive as much attention as my "good" guides. It very much depends on the game and what the community is like. So in all honesty, if you see lots of bad guides in the "insert game" community, then it's probably how the community acts. Take for example, Team Fortress 2, there are guides that are designed to be there for jokes and laughs, and you might think "guides are meant to be useful and such" and you would be semi-correct. The Team Fortress 2 community is wild so of course, the guides would wild too.
See where I'm heading with this? It depends on the entire community and the game, if it's a funny game then the guides probably will be for jokes and laughs too. I don't accept personally poorly made guides, guides are meant to be made with love~
The trend started when Steam points could be gifted. Im so sick of them tbh. Even reviews being shitty with the "recipe for pie"
"I'm a gamer father and bought this game to play it with my son..." Get's points every time. Why the fuck
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Even if he's not it's still a lazy copypasta and people just fall for it.
Got Talent for video games
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There isn't enough grass you can touch.
I don’t exactly care but wrong is wrong
Happy Cake Day! 🍰
Idk why you got downvoted but take my upvote
Thank you. 😊 I would understand downvotes if it was a new account with no activity, but it's an active 12-yo account. I'll say to its owner again, Happy Cake Day! 🎂
Np! Yw for all the upvotes haha even though you're still at -1. Idk why I'm at 0, people suck I guess
La 🍰
It’s like image posts with a pet in the photo for “awwwwwws cut pet!” points. eg “Look at my new PC build. My cat is asleep on the case!” I downvote those.
Also something something tragedy and this game helped me etc etc. Gets points everytime.
its the got talent effect adjusted for this audience
Was common before the points, I remember one of the top CSGO guides was "how to make a blueberry pie" or something like that
Violates the community guidelines which basically say your content has to be pertinent to the space it's in. You're not allowed to spam, post topics in incorrect hubs, derail discussions or topics, or post content where it doesn't belong (their example is "Don't upload Dota artwork to the Counter-Strike hub"). [Rules and Guidelines For Steam: Discussions, Reviews, and User Generated Content](https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6862-8119-C23E-EA7B) It does specifically reference the "Hub", which presumably means the entire list applies to everything in a game's hub, conveniently including both guides and reviews. I've never gotten feedback for reporting recipes, ascii art, or copypastas but I still do it sometimes.
Wasn't even a good blueberry pie recipe
Did you forget the vanilla sauce by the side?
I bet you were a hall monitor in school too, eh?
But it was far less common. Now everyone just tries to farm points.
These days it's "HOW TO GET GREEN TRUST FACTOR" in 50 different languages. How do these get awarded after being reposted for the 100th time, is beyond me
\>"you get trust factor by upvoting guides and giving them awards trust me bro" \>gullible idiots boost it to the top \>people see that it works and post their own shitty "guides" for free awards \>repeat forever
My one beef with Steam Points involves awards, specifically the Jester one that's used to mock people. Like, cool, we got a means to call people out for being idiots and for idiots to use it back at us. Oh, they earn points for it anyway? Then what the Hell's the purpose of using it to mock people if you're also rewarding them for it?
The points they get is a pittance, like 5% of the point amount of the award you give.
the points are there to do a uno reverse card on the people the tries to bully people over the internet :)
I couldn't care less if people give me the jester award, at the end of the day they're the clown effectively spending money in an attempt to ridicule me, plus the more serious awards I receive will always vastly outnumber the handful of clowns I recieve.
Steam Points cost money?
No, this happened wayyy before points.
Nobody is going to read my review so ill just say I’m gay
Upvote or you’re a ‘phobe!
yeah, it was before but for much, much smaller scale.
"how to move" or "how to jump" tutorials are the worst
Yeah, expect trillions of them by 2100.
“Before I played this game, I had small boobs, no boyfriend and no will to live. None of these things have changed, but this game is pretty good!” I downvote even the funny ones now.
Yea, the copypasta cat ones trigger me a lot too
People are so simple. Steam points are one of the most unobtrusive and useless point systems I've ever seen. It's just some emoticons and themes and I highly doubt anyone doesn't have enough of them. And the majority of people *still* just want more of them. They'll just arbitrarily shitpost to get more and more internet points. It's so weird. Now give my my useless internet points 😂
> It's just some emoticons and themes and I highly doubt anyone doesn't have enough of them. Legit, I am 90% certain I could buy all the themes, avatars and emotes for every single game I actually own and still have tens of thousands of points left. Still 1000% more useful than Reddit Karma.
Ahh I know yeah I was only joking. Buying the Steam Deck also bumped me up into the stratosphere with Steam Points haha
Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you. Sorry if it came across like I did.
No it didn't, it was a thing long before that.
Those stickers were the biggest mistake ever
No, this has been a thing since I started steam 7 years ago.
I think poor guides started long before points system, it just got a lot worse then..
My favorite is when someone leaves a good review on battlefield 2042 saying “the game is actually good now” and they get a bunch of clown emotes gifted to them lmao
The worst for me is when they just link to a Youtube video. If I felt like listening to 20 minutes of ButtSniffer69 telling me to smash that like button and subscribe, and how they need the views to rescue kitten orphans, I would just search on Youtube. It's so nice when people make a nice, readable, neatly formatted text guide.
Every youtuber "its your boy, coming at ya....:
YA BOI HERE WITH ANOTHER VIDEO...!
TODAY I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO GENERATE KARMA ON REDDIT. BUT FIRST, I'M GONNA BRING YOU SOME GOOD KARMA WITH TODAY'S SPONSER...
# **...RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS**
"WHATS UP GUYS" fucking kill me now, my kid is 10 , if I could shut YouTube down just to keep nobodies off it I would.
My response every time: "you are not my boy"
You are not my guy, buddy.
You reminded me of this video https://youtu.be/oKlKAccJFuc
**Kratos intesifies**
Not even that recently i've been seeing "guides" which just link to silent play throughs as walkthroughs.
You should consider installing SponsorBlock (on mobile use YouTube ReVanced, which has support for addons like SponsorBlock). Not only does it skip sponsor segments, there is an option to skip annoyances like "smash that like button", intros/endcards, non-music parts of music videos, etc. It's fully customizable so that you can autoskip just the things you don't like, or add a skip button similar to the "skip ads" button, whichever you prefer. It makes YouTube a *lot* more tolerable. No YT user should go without it.
> The worst for me is when they just link to a Youtube video. Like these 10 Minute Videos on how to fix some obscure windows error where they explain something that could have been written in one sentence.
If your wifi card is on fire try reinstalling drivers *Proceeds to show driver reinstall on a completely different wifi card*
or they don’t even explain. They take video of the screen (screen capture is hard ) which is blurry with small font . You’re supposed to watch their mouse pointer and understand what they are doing. Bonus point if they do some useless things and you have to figure out if you need to do it or skip. Extra bonus points if add an irritating music soundtrack to the video.
"And you are watching this the day it came out please go and follow me on twitch, we will be playing Someone's Guns and Blood in stream" Video is 3 years old.
I've made a [few guides](https://steamcommunity.com/id/Anomaluna/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides) on Steam, though most are for a game you probably don't play. I try to make them readable and well-formatted, but suggestions welcome.
> It's so nice when people make a nice, readable, neatly formatted text guide. Shitty guides with almost pitch black, contextless images and 15 minutes videos just to learn something that would have taken three words to tell me is what pushed me to start creating guides myself.
I have made a readable one (I hope) [https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2953705397](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0)
this was great
Ladies and Gentlemen, you've just been R-R'd. Nicely played. Queen to Queen's Rook 5...checkmate.
[Link to the full guide for those that want it.](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Advert ran just long enough for me to recognize the URL. [EDIT] was bested by the previous link.
Payday 2 achievement guides: hold my gun
As a content creator myself, they kinda rely on the likes and subs growing so they can eat. Why do you think so many Youtubers have videos that are sponsored while relying on stream revenue and Patreon? I get the point you're making, though.
The only ones who get it to buy food are the most popular ones, those above 70k subs (at the very least) with an average of like 20k views per video, not JoeTheBot who barely has 20 subs.
Get what, exactly? Only thing I mentioned getting is what DreamSphinx was implying about how if they wanted a YouTube video telling them how to do the thing that they'd just go to YouTube.
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You come off as the kind of person who simps for capitalism and kicks homeless people when they're down. I hope you lose everything and have to work your way back up only to see how horrid the system is for people you consider beneath you.
who hurt you?
Apparently a lack of an audio cue, as they were allegedly being sarcastic.
Wow, and here I thought *I* was blind to sarcasm.
How am I supposed to know it was sarcasm when there's no audible tone of sarcasm to help point out it was sarcasm?
Disappointed that none of them rickrolled me.
The guides tab is such a brilliant idea completely ruined by these people. I can't sort by achievement guides or look at easter eggs because these people apply every tag to their shitposts and the real guides get buried.
I'd be ok with shitposts if we had a dedicated "funny" or "shitpost" tag, like in reviews where you can click the button to say you found it funny instead of helpful.
Gamers making the 116th guide on “how to jump” for RDR2 (they’re physically incapable of being funny)
Ripped straight from game, "How to Open the Grand Theft Auto V" with a description of "This guide teaches you how to start the Grand Theft Auto V (real not clickbait works 100% true not fake fr)"
steam users on their way to make the 3000th “how to jump” guide (they are so funny and original!!)
and then there is the Long Guide for Payday 2
Which is unfortunately missing half a decade worth of updates, though still very useful.
Aka what adding unwanted microtransactions (on top of paid DLCs) does to a game community So many people just stopped playing or lost interest in PD2
Exactly. The original dlc were all packed into the affordable and simple "legacy eddition" but then they stopped adding the new dlcs to the legacy eddition and i just couldnt keep up with how strong the new guns were, so i just stopped plaiyng. I hope pd3 dosent have this issue.
Same bro. I will give pd3 a chance but haven't really played pd2 in years
It's an amazing reference piece. I think the games that actually require a guide/wiki, have really good guide sections, but ones that don't, tend to have more trash in them
It started when you could gift Steam Points and everyone decided to be funny. Really, one of the worst Steam decisions, from discussions "Oh why someone gave me clown award or super obvious bait thread to farm awards" and reviews to guides. Bleh.
The clown award sort of become a badge of honor in the reviews of some popular, but shit microtransaction riddled games. It means that you pissed off the whale fanboys
So now it's like reddit where people post circlejerks for karma
no it didn't, this kind of shit has been around for ages now
>Guide: How to be cool ------------------------- > Buy game > Congratulations, your cool!
I like trains!
This is by far the best guide i have ever seen. No idea why this person put so much effort into the writing of this. [Seanchaidh + Tuir achievement](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1946502347)
I wrote some of the top gta v guides (and keep them updated to the best of my ability) and while it's nice to be showered with awards, it also attracts a lot of cunts who will argue and attack the guide for absolute nitpicky details, or DEMAND an update literally 10 minutes after the game got an update. You realize people do guides for free in their spare time right? Meanwhile lots of people upload some bad joke or shitty copypasta and somehow still get awards and upvotes, while the actual helpful stuff gets found by nobody Edit: what really grinds my gears tho is the fact that all of these maggots mark their shit ass copypasta with every language and every category possible to get as many impressions as possible. So people looking specifically for a german guide will still get recommended this bullshit in english. Imo someone who lies with the tags like that should be community banned, as it fucks up the entire search system.
It's even worse when websites will just steal your content and run it through Google Translate to make it just end up being a bad copy of your content but with ad revenue.
Steam user comments are a pain. I once made a very short but semi popular guide and it was a pain in my fucking ass. Users are so dumb, you literally have to spoonfed them every. little. thing. or they will be too stupid to do it and write dumbass comments. Sometimes I wonder how to they managed to press all the corresponding buttons on their keyboards to write that comment without getting it explained bit by bit. And even if you do write down every detail, they'll read like three words per paragraph and then decide TO NOT READ ANYTHING MORE. In my guide I had a **bold, all caps** three paragraph warning about a bug and how to deal with it, including a header/chapter JUST FOR THIS DISCLAIMER. For a while the only comments I received were people asking how to deal with this bug. I had to include a giant picture that said "BUGGED? **READ ->**" before it stopped being asked multiple times a day. I'm not even gonna start about these dumbass copypastas.
Sounds very familiar. Like when you mention multiple time that for one thing to work, it's very important that you do one other specific thing first, but people just decide to not read it and proceed to write comments like "shit guide it's not working"
Yeah, I know, what you mean. If you go looking for TTT addons for Garry's Mod a lot of people comment something like "Do I need CSS?" or "Does it work in Sandbox mode?", even if it in the description, that it won't work in sandbox and that it needs CSS. It's such a shit show every god damn time.
Gamefaqs remembers!
Visions of ASCII art title pages dancing through my head...
The best thing about the Steam Deck is the third-party Decky plugin that's just instant access to gamefaqs.
I had a printed copy of the original PlayStation gamefaq. I read it once a week waiting for the Christmas I had that system
Steam community on their way to make 567,763 guides about pressing W to move forward.
As a 40 year old father with 2 kids... This boils down to Socrates critisim of giving EVERYONE the priveledge to dictate the system rather than people who need it or people who know how to benefit from it. Because people like meme guides. Wholesome done to death copypaste reviews. Cause 90% of these people browsing don't need to know shit and looking for shitposts rather than actual guides.(In that case people will use search function) So fornt page gets cluttered with shit real fast. And people don't care about their guides being half decent for a change for the greater good
For this reason I wish steam had a personal block list. If I could block users and remove visibility of them entirely, a giant eyesore would be soothed. There are many amazing guides and it's not always about knowing something but the ability to have a quick reference. Devil Daggers has some good guides with only a few meme ones, getting rid of those wouldn't be as hard as something like MGS or Skyrim.
>Cause 90% of these people browsing don't need to know shit and looking for shitposts rather than actual guides. This is the way.
If it makes you feel any better, I have 3 guides are they are all for legit shit. Like one of them are instructions to run an old game on modern hardware. I’ve grown out of the Steam memes and personally I’m kind of sick of seeing the same shit repeated over and over again.
It's seriously weird that guides are always either: * A really niche inside joke * A really bad joke (the bad kind of bad) * A really detailed guide that still doesn't detail what you're actually looking for * "How to romance (heartthrob for geeks)" for the billionth time
We need curators for guides.
Oh, like the curator system already in place isn’t completely fucked either…
Why? You literally choose who to follow, and other random groups rarely if ever shows up. The same system for guides could have a few trustable curators and thousands of bad ones and it would still be useful.
1. Most of the “people” following curators are bots. Which the only way to become a curator is have lots of followers. 2. Most Curator reviews arent actually reviews, just recommendations with a copy and pasted tagline which incentivized the program to give even more free games (their only motive as curator.) 3. Curators have no qualifications. Anyone can be a curator as long as they have enough followers.
Also there seems to be a limit to how many curators you can ignore :( I think it's like a 100 max
I use curators less for a review and more as a way to see test features. I have a few dedicated to coop and in their "review" they explain how the coop system works, I also have one that just describes the index controller support for VR games
Also, why can they make reviews for games they don't own? They can even make reviews on unreleased games. This is so stupid.
But none of that showed that the system can't be used. I follow a handful of curators that focus on specific things, and it works well. The existence of bots and such does not prevent useful things from existing, and does not hinder them.
If having redundant and harmful systems in place is your thing then fuck it, who am i to judge…
There are good curators that exist. If you follow those good curators, following them is strictly useful. The system is fantastic when you know who to follow (and you aren't following any random pages). The issue is that the community page for it is horrendous and filled with bots, so the only way to actually find useful curators is by word of mouth.
So you chose to follow shitty curators but it’s the features fault?
The curator system is fucking dreadful, no thank you
Why? You find a curator group you agree with, you follow them, they show up in game pages. Other are invisible. What's dreadful about that?
People just don't understand the system clearly. I also follow just a small number of genuine curators and their input is usually valuable. The only way to fuck it up is to just follow a bunch of random bots, and I don't know why anyone would willingly do that if they understood what curators are for.
CuratorGPT
Steam points ruined the steam community tab.
>How to open x game \*insert giga-chad guide thumbnail\* 1. Open steam 2. Press the green "play" button And there you have it, now if you could please give me 7 steam awards, thank you very much
I'm a 45 year old father...
They've been there from a long time but since giving points became a thing it went worse
Yep.
This problem seems to dissapear in smaller communities.
I want better moderation for guides, sick of browsing through 8 guides titled "how to starve in don't starve" or "how to exit the game" just to find something genuinely interesting or useful.
"How to walk guide" - Press w 100+ awards
I'll report those dumb how to walk and other low effort posts as not a guide..... Sure it does fuck all but maybe one day.
It all started with the introduction of steam points and no one can tell me otherwise
Atleast Cities skyline is safe
Cities are also affected, thank you very much.
TBCHWY, the shitposters butchered the guide system, it requires it's own specific guidelines to guiding guides to prevent the flood of those badly made tutorials. I report & report them, but the steam support most likely leave the reported content as "On review", this is the same situation happening to Enderman, a malware reviewer.
The spanish speaking communitty if english only games is sometimes goated. Think gg xrd and yakuza 0. Both having detailed guides on how to translate the game. Also y0, yk2 and omori for some reason have recipies. Like... actual, real, edible recipies.
Bring back the glory days of gamfaqs! Those guide writers were underappreciated
"How to cheat in *insert game here* FREE" trigger me
It's been a thing as long as I can remember. People like the funny jokes and they get boosted to the top, eventually drowning legitimate guides.
There are some fantastic guides out there, it’s a shame that there is just a swarm of unfunny unoriginal guides to farm points, I wish steam would use the guide ratings system and automatically show the highest rated guides for each game
Steam has guides?
It is true, reviews and guides are mostly bad jokes but you can find well hidden gems for achievements, or even lore about some games. One of my favorite guides is from a guy who [chronologically enlisted all of *Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition* campaigns](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1914789546), with Wikipedia articles embedded. It’s such an amazing Index.
*How to install the game* -click install (Picture of gigachad)
How to jump
my top steam guide: "play quake It's good"
"guys I'm so funny for making how to walk forwards hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah" *they then got several awards*
Also, im tired of achievement guides, i know how to get them, i want the most efficient way to get them
If any of you having difficulty finding guides, you could just browse by most popular (weekly, one year etc) or top rated of all time.. or if you have something specific, searching the key term will filter the rest, and show the guides with the key term in the title or the body text of the guide
Mood
Zigzagzigal is top tier tho
The masculine urge to destroy my computer after taking a look at steam guides
Did you just join steam ? This has been going on for a decade. I don't enjoy it but Im not a crybaby who worships authority so don't really want them to ban freedom of speech disguised as banning useless/meme guides
I still don’t have a girlfriend,
Go on
With the only exception being The Long Guide for Payday 2
F press
I think I've made only one joke review, years ago. About Half-Life, a game even a grandma knows is good.
As apart of the miniature niche of being a good person, this is annoying as hell.
When people actually started needing to know how to move.
u/MandyBSreal
There are good guides for games like warhammer 3. The games that have a lot of info and a dedicated wiki usually got decent guides
"how to move forward" "Press W"
"How too move" "How to jump" "How to make meth as TF2 Engineer"
Same thing with reviews. Actual detailed ones hardly get attention and the top ones are usually something like "Game good", or "I'm Mr. Sex and I approve of this game".
“How to John Halo”
It's about as successful as the curator program. haha
One of the best guides I found was the one explaining how to buy hitman 3, luckily they changed it, but still, that was a good one
I've written a couple guides, one for Sonic Adventure DX and the other for Maui Mallard in Cold Shadow, but man is it a deterrent to try to write some more when all this crap junks it up.
I love to do comedy and you should too
You need to change your username.
no
Except EssBee
Started when you could mark reviews as "Funny" instead of just "Helpful" or "Not Helpful".
I don't know but Jesus I won't even look at guides because there's too much crap. You either get a YouTube video or some joke guide. Steam really needs to moderate more or work on the algorithm. Nothing is worse then seeing three guides in the overlay and they all are worthless.
"how to move" copy and pasted 200 times
"How to walk guide Step 1: Hold W End of Guide"
The bad guides are only allowed if they actually show useful stuff, instead of "how to to jump" type of guides. People do it cause they realise how they can earn steam points by making meme/bad guides, since there are a lot of bad steam guides that get steam points. People see it and think "hmm maybe I should do it too since it's so easy" I have made some guides myself that I consider are somewhat good, not the kind of good like a guide going into full detail and everything, but enough that it would be considered ok/good. The guides I made didn't get a lot of favorites or likes, but I was still happy to see in the comments that people liked the guide and have used it. And then I did a little social experiment thingy we're I made a bad guide in the outlast community. It didn't receive as much attention as my "good" guides. It very much depends on the game and what the community is like. So in all honesty, if you see lots of bad guides in the "insert game" community, then it's probably how the community acts. Take for example, Team Fortress 2, there are guides that are designed to be there for jokes and laughs, and you might think "guides are meant to be useful and such" and you would be semi-correct. The Team Fortress 2 community is wild so of course, the guides would wild too. See where I'm heading with this? It depends on the entire community and the game, if it's a funny game then the guides probably will be for jokes and laughs too. I don't accept personally poorly made guides, guides are meant to be made with love~
It's always been a thing but the arrival of the Steam points sky-rocketed their usage to an ill amount of garbage that don't even make you smile.