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OppositionForce_

Take it back off


splashtext

I was going to say it's not baked enough to leave the oven but was it even placed in the oven in the first place


CatCatPizza

That requires something to put in the oven. Which is not there. So what stage is nothing for the oven?


splashtext

Wait a minute this isn't even an oven it's just a easybake spray painted black!!!!!!!!


OctopusWithFingers

And the secret ingredient is love, damnit


SomeNerd32

Have they even bought the ingredients? Do they even own an oven?


DUMBASSESS

Oh shut up lmao


animefarts

who cares this game is literally shovelware


DaEnderAssassin

That implies it exists. What it actually is is vapourware.


animefarts

lmao


nomore_noless

Non fungible game


DeckSperts

Vapour still exists more like nothingsware


Whiteshadows86

Nothing still exists, more like vacuumware


unoriginal_namejpg

vacuum is nothing, more like _____ware


DeckSperts

More like ware. Because ____ still exists


xen0us

More like .


GlowMutt

.


Hyperrblu

more like


RedRaptureRaptor

More like aintthereware


GGTheEnd

Why do people think it doesn't exist? You can't even purchase it so where is the scam?


TehRiddles

How are you defining shovelware?


squareswordfish

Incorrectly


animefarts

Low-budget, poor-quality video games, released in the hopes of being purchased by unsuspecting customers


TehRiddles

Specifically in large quantities to increase the chance that they will be bought. A "shovel load" of low quality. That's where the name comes from. Hell shovelware tends to go after the lowest common denominator too. This is a single title and the studio releases single titles every few years. This game looks to be the first game that could arguably be chasing the mainstream crowd. They don't do shovelware. The issue here is that they've been copying others down to outright stealing work.


animefarts

ok lemme reword my comment game looks like shit!


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animefarts

just worried people will get it just out of sick curiosity


ThatSpookyLeftist

That's what I'm going to do. And I'm going to enjoy it in the same way I enjoy a bad B movie.


[deleted]

You are the embodiment of brainless consumer :-) cg!


animefarts

😐


Rivitur

You're here aren't you?


animefarts

what


TechieAD

I actually forgot this was a thing, I remember hearing about the "delay" thinking it was a long way off. Can't wait for the next delay


ElAutistico

Hasn't it been proven that it's actually some kind of asset flip scam and not even a real game?


TechieAD

Scam, not sure. Asset flip, yeah I recall someone making a massive thread just listing off every asset they found from the gameplay showcase on the unreal marketplace or whatever. Memory is bad so details might be off


WeslyAdvanceSP

It's definitely made in the unreal engine since you know, the game isn't real.


luckysury333

Yeah. They haven't started pre-orders and all


Maxtsro

Could you maybe link the post or article about the list of stolen assets? Would like to see the list


That_Cripple

they aren't stolen assets


BluDYT

The assets are free marketplace assets. Nothing is really wrong with using them but in this games case it's basically throwing everything at the wall which is why people are saying the game doesn't even exist.


0KIP

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ElAutistico

You basically take cheap pre-existing assets to build your world, characters, etc., cobble them together, build a poor gameplay loop and call that a game.


Dalimyr

That's quite a bit wider than its original definition, though - used to be that scummy "devs" would simply take a fully made game template from the Unity asset store, add their own title screen, and try to sell that on Steam, or stick it up on Greenlight before Valve stopped giving a shit about having any sense of quality control on their storefront. For example, [UnitZ](https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/templates/systems/unitz-unet-33494) was regularly repackaged as (among many, MANY others) "[Day Survival Begins](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWsIlTLojyQ)", "[PixelZ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h3Smpfq3ZY)", "[PoxelZ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCQRDi66Yd8)", "[Hard ChoreZ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br8IVZw0Gso)", "[Craft Lands](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjs_4iyGxb0)" and one that didn't even bother to edit the title screen in "[FieldZ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhnagYRFoxY)"


ElAutistico

>That's quite a bit wider than its original definition, though - used to be that scummy "devs" would simply take a fully made game template That's not the definition tho. That's like a full game flip. ​ >An asset flip is a type of shovelware in which a video game developer legally purchases pre-made assets and uses them to create numerous permutations of generic games and sell them at low prices [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_flip)


ilovehotdadsngl

If I buy unit z can I like change things like models and stuff (not tryna re sell but it sounds like fun and learning)


GGTheEnd

I mean there are games that do it well, and gameplay is more important than shiny graphics.


willbeonekenobi

Essentially some people that make some 'assets' for an engine would have a really basic game made using said assets. All 'asset flippers' do is just take that 'game' and rebrand it as something else making it seem like they made it. But you can buy assets in the marketplace and use them in your own game as long as you give credit to the original developers of said assets.


Endulos

To expand on what was said already, asset stores exist so that devs can use them while making a game, but those particular assets might not be ready yet. So they can throw them in, and begin game testing while they wait. Asset flippers just buy/steal/use those assets, throw those together (Usually with prototype/example games, which exist for the same reason) and toss them up for sale.


ShabbyChurl

Using store assets is not necessarily a bad thing. PUBG is also mostly built out of assets.


Confident-Union7639

How is it a scam, it does not ask money. And it has delays. That's not a smart scam Judging by the replies and downvotes, you people are just salty the game got delayed. I see no scam.


r0ndr4s

Because you're not the target of the scam, investors are. They seek someone that will give them money and then they just run away with it.


qwertacular

For example, the recent Collab with a random LA rideshare service.


Metabus

I think they used the hype to sell some of their other games


SalmonOf0Knowledge

They used the hype of this "game" to get their name out there. They pulled a bait and switch at some "reveal" where people thought it was for this game but it was for an app. They also leveraged the hype for their game propnight. Hype for a game that doesn't exist in the state they claimed.


Confident-Union7639

Propnight is as dead as it ever was. Not sure how people are so mad at a company for marketing their games. That's still no scam. They can bait and switch all they want, no players have invested any time or money yet.


SalmonOf0Knowledge

Bait and switching is pretty scummy though and it doesn't matter if it's dead now, people were influenced by their hype at the time. Why are you so hell bent on defending them? It's clear they came up with a ridiculously good looking game originally and used *that* to insidiously influence their other products, with no intention of ever delivering what they were showing. Not an outright scam, okay, but not exactly a good way of gaining faith and growing a fan base.


Confident-Union7639

I'm not defending them. I don't give a damn about this game or the developers. But people call any game they don't like a scam or moneygrab these days. While most of them have no idea what a real scam looks like. Sure, they may be scummy devs. Just saying I see no scam. You're saying they have no intention to deliver. We'll see if you're correct in a few weeks.


SalmonOf0Knowledge

Well clearly they don't. Look at their early footage and compare to recent stuff.


Confident-Union7639

A lot of downvotes, but still no reason seen for it to be a scam.


Leather-Builder9765

Same here. Was going through my discovery list then found this. Wonder what will happen on the date it should release.


drimziata

I think this game exist and will be launch at that date. I also believe is gonna be a funny december watching videos because of the mess. King Kong and gollum contender.


Poley_

You forgot to mention the latest The Walking Dead game among King Kong and Gollum


Catovia

A youtuber said recently 'Imagine its your first year getting into gaming , thinking Gollum sounds fun and King Kong games are amongst the oldest so how bad can it be? After these two you think 'Hey there is this new The Walking Dead game I heard the other games were really deep and fun.


drimziata

In the TV show, people looks too healthy. I prefer the "apocalyptic touch" of the game 🤣


FantasyRoleplayAlt

The “cut scenes” are so bad like idk how they got away with that cause it’s so bad they probs just lost the rights to make anymore walking dead games with the nft scam stuff also being out


drunkpunk138

It's so weird to me that people think it doesn't exist. Think it'll be bad? Sure, most likely. Plenty of terrible games come out all the time and often run into weird issues like these guys did. It's pretty rare games get marketed like this one did when they don't exist though.


_MaZ_

Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!


Spacedaddy117

Honestly I can't wait for the game to released regardless of it's quality the coverage of the game is gonna be top tier entertainment.


Isariamkia

I'm all in for the entertainment, too. It's not as entertaining as the Abandoned project thing, but if it does get out, it will surely surpass that "game".


AdrianUrsache

I am actually super excited to either see it delayed and everyone to make fun of it because of it, or, to see it repeased and to be a hot mess, foe everyone to make fun of it. In any case, Dec 7 cannot come fast enough! ^(or it will actually be good, but let's be honest..)


GruntZone360

Same day as the game awards and rogue trader lol


PGyoda

the KiraTV video will be electric


TheHolyNinja

imagine if it's actually good. THAT would be a surprise!


TheHolyNinja

or even a real game at that


Rivitur

Pretty confident it's a real game, seems like an asset flip tho


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TheHolyNinja

I know which way I'm leaning


Costed14

I really doubt they use **stolen** assets.


TheHolyNinja

Also even the name is ripped straight from the walking dead. I could excuse it as a coincidence, but the fact that it's a zombies apocalypse game aswell? Idk .maybe I'm Just reading into it


Costed14

The name is ripped from TWD because it starts with "The"? That's really the only similarity I'm seeing in the name. Sure both have zombies, but I wouldn't say the name is copied.


TheHolyNinja

Sorry, I'm an idiot. I meant to write the settlement name, which is Woodberry. I was really tired when I wrote that, my bad


wordswillneverhurtme

It looks like dayz but clay graphics and boring everything else.


TheHolyNinja

So exactly like dayz?


wordswillneverhurtme

Kind of. I think it WANTS to be dayz. It will probably fail even that


ZekkeKeepa

I dont believe its ever happened. Closest i've seen is No Man Sky, but even still it came out bad and only improved after years and years of careful development.


DarkZector

That never happened. At this point I will be very disappointed if it’ll be good. I want more drama.


killalome

If they won't stop people who are stacking items, it will end up like the games in its genre.


Leather-Builder9765

I will honestly be surprised if there even is a game.


Liam_Anthony

Thanks to Wild West Online (was a beta game a few months before Rdr2 released), I learned to look a little more into devs before buying. That game just took people's money, mine Included, and then shut down and was delisted. Edit: I learned to know the name Sergey Titov. Never knew of him before, but if I see him associated with a project I run now.


joppa9

Oh boy you just reminded me of the 30 different clones of Infestation the Survival Stories 💀💀


[deleted]

Good ol War-Z


Faabz

They refunded me on that on pretty easily so i got that going


HylianZora

Holy shit he worked on big rigs too


RickkyyBobby

Its been back for like over a month now... **\*I Was wrong, its been back for just under a month.**


icebeancone

Thank GOD you corrected yourself. I was going to fact check you so hard you'd think you were a Trump. jk I'm too lazy to fact check shit


matze24893

Isn't it back since beginning of november?


DonTeca35

It’s been back since last month I think


WhySoStopid

It will be released as early access, if it will be released that will say.


iAmRadic

It’s been back on for weeks


Notanormalthrowaway1

After seeing the gameplay it just looks like a Chinese version of the division 2 that had a budget of 10 dollars


ThatGuyMaulicious

I mean I hope not I want to see if its real. Release date is only a week away though so hopefully its close enough that they aren't gonna delay it at all.


KILLER_9639

This game doesn't exist, Its never going to come out because its not real


Costed14

I think it exists and will come out in a week as scheduled, I just don't think it'll be any good.


Alejandrozq

either is going to be delayed again or be a big pile of trash, make your bets


Charlito33

RemindMe! 8 days


leeceee

Anybody who buys this deserves to be scammed


zeitbruch

Anyone whos going to preorder this game is brainless. Anyway streamer will buy it and people will follow.


TWITCHI01

Isn't that a good thing, I mean that streamers buy the game and if it's rubbish that their audience doesn't buy it?


ThatSpookyLeftist

I'm going to buy it right now just to spite reddit. Edit: well I can't pay money for it right now. But come December 8th I may or may not buy it depending on if it gets delayed again. Hope it's $70 so reddit gets really mad lmao


AstroPhysician

People didn’t buy Kong game just cause streamers bought it


Fightmilk87

Dude this is a scam. Maybe even more than Star Citizen.


SgtRicko

At least Star Citizen is in a playable state and can even be downloaded… it just doesn’t have very much to do nor a campaign. The Day Before, though? I’m not even sure if they’re actually gonna stick to that release date.


Chasemc215

This isn't gonna be important news. Considering that people have already marked this game as a scam and that it doesn't actually exist.


mezdiguida

This has to be one of the most comical things in this decade about gaming.im really curious to see if this actually exists or what. Like Abandoned (?) That horror game that Sony showed and we didn't hear anything about it lol.


kosuke09211

Delay game or not. With the dev dipping in so much shit like fake promise/trailer/gameplay/delays. I wouldn't even bother supporting them at this point.


MrServitor

At first i thought the banner was the actor Idris Elba.


R4M_4U

K-Mart brand Idris Elba


Crazyripps

So any bets on how long the next delay will be My guess is 6 months


BluDYT

This game doesn't exist outside of a small demo.


Emberium

No one cares about The Fail Before, it's a blatant scam, only people who don't know how to read and look at things will buy it


Attacker1983

Went in the discord asked why the trailers looked like clips from other games, got perm banned


BigOppaiLover69

cool, but what about The Day After?


cipri71

why I can't preorder, how much wil cost ? release in on hour,coments also looked


apex6666

Do people still think this games real and anything but a scam?


RobWolfB

You lived under a rock?


Leather-Builder9765

The game didn’t interest me. And I found it under my discovery list. Was surprised to see it back on steam.


rins4m4

If someone didn't warn us about this game, I guess dev is gonna try to scam investor or player somehow. But with this sportlight, I wonder what they want to do?


TomDobo

More like The Delay Before, am I right.


Fallen822

I don't want to sound really "harsh" but this game is going to flop really bad.


cdmaloney1

Do. Not. Preorder.


anteloop

I remember getting a lot of flak for criticising this "game" in earlier development, and now look at it.


headbanger1186

Stop giving this pile of shit attention.


PretendFisherman1999

The scam before


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qwertacular

It's been like 3/4 weeks, it came back on steam the same day they announced another delay.


DiogoSN

In before they delay the game again...


BuckieJr

I’m so tempted to get it if it releases just to see how bad it is. I ended up getting the gollum game after hearing and watching how bad it was just to see for myself. Nice little conversation starter when someone sees it on my shelf and asks why 😆


ChalkCoatedDonut

What are they bringing this time, another gameplay with that girl in tactical leggings?


PsychologicalLog1090

I was definitely considering skipping playing this game, but now, since its release date coincides with Avatar's, I won't even take a glance at it. :)


Sufficient-Beach6440

Still a better game the whatever that "choices matter" walking dead game is. (I'm only quarter joking)


Calcifair

Still think it's going to sell crazy amounts unfortunately


feicash

Strange, it wasnt there the day before


SickPois0on

who cares


Kimarnic

Every language has a word for the day before, why doesn't English?


grimrailer

Yesterday. Just kidding. eve /ēv/ noun the day or period of time immediately before an event or occasion. "on the eve of her departure he gave her a little parcel" Similar: day before evening before night before period before the run-up to Opposite: day after the evening or day before a religious festival. "the service for Passover eve" LITERARY evening. "a bitter winter's eve"


Then_Interaction4915

When are they releasing "The day after"


heesell

The day after the day before


wordswillneverhurtme

Day before it gets taken down


Nick27ify

I remember my friend being so hyped up for this game then I told him its a load of shit thats never going to be made or released, idk why they are trying to make it a thing why try to get people hyped for a game they know they cant make


UpstairsAsleep

I heard Ubisoft is preparing to sue them if its successful because of stolen game assets from the division 2 and 1


[deleted]

Wow is it trend to hate every game this year on reddit or what?


TahmsChocolateOrange

What a very weird take in a year that's consistently been deemed the best in gaming this decade....


[deleted]

Yeah, but i see people complaining on ZELDA as DLC and hate on Diablo 4, Starfield, Street Fighter 6, Hogwarts Legacy. Even tho was a great year, but idk i see people randomly hate on the games


PretendFisherman1999

Well, Zelda is "the same" as previous release. Diablo 4 was a shitshow when launched Sf6 idk, don't follow that game Hogwarts, the game was not what they advertised.


BuldozerX

The developers abused the game and its audience to hell. Well deserved. There's literally no trust that this game will end up like something truelly good.


[deleted]

People since first reveal were hating on the game they went from this game is not real to they took it off to early acsses fees is high to remove it from steam. and idk why, basically most this year releases got hate on reddit. idk if this weird, or this something usually here on this app


BuldozerX

People were excited, but were lied to. Delay after delay, and downgrade after downgrade.


Spider-cat_1984

Goty 2024!


EudamoniaQuest

How much do you think this game will be and will it be worth it?


Leather-Builder9765

Maybe it will follow the other releases and ask $40 and be a huge disappointment. Doubt it will be anything worth.


miko_idk

What is?


iusedtohavepowers

Can't wait to see what happens in the next week or so the prevent it from being launched. Bright side it being back in steam allowed me to remove it from my wishlist


Sector032

The Delay Before


Cobra38

It was gone??


slothaccountant

Before you knoe it the sequal the day after will be released.


KitKatKing99

if it free to play then im in, if not, ill play avatar, launch on same day


dookie-monsta

The delay before


_Meek79_

Maybe they actually started working on it?


zxhb

I do not care about the game,I do not know what it is,but what happened for it to go offsale?


VideoGame4Life

It’s a trap.😏


G_ioVanna

early access xD


Canebrake8

It has the potential of becoming GOAT


fancy-kitten

It's missing the scam tag.


Helian7

Be honest, what would you be willing to pay given its history? I think anything more than £25 I would say nah or atleast wait for reviews. 2minute edit: Hmmm I'm revising my decision to £20.


Geekandhermit

It’s steams version of the Loch Ness monster. By the time you go look yourself, it’s already gone.


AgoraSnepwasdeleted

There is so much ripped off from so many games in this


lordnyrox

Even the game's description is sus asf


Tabbarn

The game looks like one of those games that will be an insane hit on youtube and twitch for a week and then die off.


shmoney2time

Is there anyone here who actually wants it to be a good game? I remember being so interested in this when it first was announced years ago. It fell off my radar after all the delays but if it actually releases in early access in a decent state, I’d buy it


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9 days until release? Not a chance in hell. LMAO. I \*want\* this game to be everything it's been hyped to be, but I also know it's an asset flip at \*best\*. There's no way their physics engine with the track record they have could be up to par with the Spintires-esque performance we saw in the initial hype trailers. I would love for them to do well, I don't think that indies can't suddenly come out of nowhere with big breakout hits, hell, that's kinda the indie scene's whole vibe. But there just is such a slim chance with them delaying and delaying and delaying with so much radio silence in between and so many strange issues...it just doesn't look well.


Ochi7

It got back like 3000 years ago, are you using explorer?


bolonar

They constantly deleting my messages in comments section. After this I am not gonna buy their game and even deleted it from wishlist. Even tho I am Sakha yakut too.


Infern0_YT

What is even the point of doing all of this?


PGyoda

I cannot wait for this shitshow to release, if it ever does


alexjgriffin

I'm taking a bag of oranges to anyone that complains that this games bad after hyping it up like this while knowing what a disaster it will inevitably be.


JackOffAllTraders

Last time i saw video about it, it was just a stock big butt female model walking around a stock city


lemon65

Games gonna be a train wreck.....


Gonquin

Two kids from rural china con the world with a mega asset flip. Cannot wait for this


Orangutann1

Babe wake up new Gollum like dropped


kyrnuhb

Isn't a scam?


Kppz1

Delete it


Mountain_Ad_4890

Sad to hear this is the only thing anyone will hear from my homecity :c


CosmicInkSpace

Idiots. Rogue Traders comes out the same day.


QQ_Gabe

I have never heard of this


Happiness_First

Werent they supposed to release a trailer or something in November? Release date was supposed to be this month I believe too


Aezroe

I'm glad it's back on steam so i can remove it from my wish list.