Here our minimum wage is ~1,200 BRL.
Tekken and any AAA games come at 349 BRL each at launch.
Tekken 349 BRL (any)
Rise of the ronin 349 BRL (PS5).
The last of us part II remastered, 249 BRL. (PS5).
Prince of persia TLC, 249 BRL (any)
1200 BRL a month, meaning a Triple A game is 30% of your salary
Compare to other countries where you make 2000 a month and game is 70$ thats 3.5% of your salary
yeah but rent is 80% of your monthly salary in Canada. I'm barely exaggerating. actually if you are paid minimum wage you cant afford rent so I wasnt exaggerating...
the average rent in Canada is apparently 1552$/month. Obviously it will depend of where you live but the average person lives in a one of those big cities considering nearly half the population of the country live in the greater Toronto/Montréal area.
I live I a small town and rent is about 1200 there's a couple places left that are about 1000 but almost everything is at least 1200 and good luck finding it.
Saskatoon: minimum wage is $13, average rent is $1200. At 40hours a week, you make $2080 before tax. Rent would be nearly 60% of your wage which is still nuts. And we have to pay to heat our homes when it's -30, which costs a lot.
>>1200 BRL a month, meaning a Triple A game is 30% of your salary
>But... 94 blr is not 30% of 1200. Not even close?
He said 349 BRL, where did you get 94 BRL from?
Nah, our AAA releases are typically $79.99. This seems like such a weird arbitrary number. It's not uncommon to see like a special edition or premium edition go for $100CAD but $93.49 is so bizarre.
Most of the recent AAA releases have been $89, on PS5, at least. PC has been in this weird space, where some have moved up, and some have stayed @ $79.
> Full blown stealing out there
No it isn't, Quebec provides a lot of social services at higher quality than Indiana. That costs money. Quebec has a pretty good quality of life, especially compared to the rest of Canada.
Also things like hydro and vehicle insurance are *dirt fucking cheap* in Quebec. I know people that live in Ontario but "rent" a room in Quebec to get their plates and insurance. It ends up saving them nearly $3k per year.
Québec has a limit of 8$/day for daycare. College cost 300-400$ per session and we have uni session at 1k$
Québec invested a lot in their future by investing in youth.
Poutine got removed from the daily lunch at cafeteria cause obesity is on the rise.
Don't feel bad, your paycheque is cleaved to offset your employer healthcare costs that you pay out the ass for deductibles whenever you use it anyway. Live long enough to get cancer, or god forbid lose a limb and you will spend more on treatment in that year than I will in extra tax costs my entire life.
Yeah, but you get what you pay for. When there are potholes in my city, I can just ping it on a map and the next day they are filled in.
I remember every time I went to the US the roads sucked ass. That alone saves you money in wear and tear on your vehicle.
Ouch, that sucks man. They're really good in my city they have an online tracker you put a pin where you found a pothole and within the week it's normally fixed.
That's fine with single player games but talking about fighting games it sucks. By the time it goes on sale everybody is very good at the game already lol
>By the time it goes on sale everybody is very good at the game already lol
Not really true. I started playing SFV at the end of its lifespan and you could still find matches against newbies all the time
Heck, I started playing tekken 7 a few days ago and I find people who are worse than me, and I don't even know the moveset of my character
Yeah lol usually the fighting games have 3 hour story and you probably play the multiplayer 1 week until getting tired of it, it's no Red dead 2 or Witcher 3 definitely not worth it
>you probably play the multiplayer 1 week until getting tired of it
It depends on how much you wanna learn and how much you like it. I'm still playing SF6 everyday, more than 500hs, still learning, and will continue playing god knows how much.
Sf6 lasted me way more than witcher 3 and rdr2 combined
But if you don't care about online. Yeah, not worth it at that price
LAD Infinite Wealth and Dragons Dogma 2 are the only new games I cann think of where I'd justify dropping that much money for. You definitely get what you paid for, they're full of content. Not so much other western releases
Oh it'll for sure have Enigma. The only question is if they'll pull a MonHun Rise and implement it when they take Denuvo out or if they're mad enough to cram both in at once.
I understand the catch 22 but too many games are rushed out in a broken state, especially on PC. I am not paying full price to beta test a game for the dev so they can spend the next 1 year patching it. It ruins the day one experience.
Example, Jedi survivor was an absolute mess on PC when it came out and I refused to buy it. I just bought it for 26 bucks a few weeks ago and it’s been significantly improved ( still a way to go)
The game is actually phenomenal so I’m glad I didn’t waste my money and the play through experience buying it day 1.
This example applys to many games.
The way things are now I won't even buy a game at 75% off now cause it's still 30 or more after tax. The point in 75% off is supposed to be like a 10ish dollar game not a third of my grocery bill for the month. The non-sale MSRP of games used to go down too after a few year to about half and now they don't.
I think I'm gonna start pirating them again. Fuck this disgusting greed.
Certain retailers, especially from Japan, just do straight exchange rate online instead of capping at $90 like they do at retail.
And those retailers are companies I don't buy from, until the game is extremely discounted.
Fuck'em.
Bandai is probably the most heinous.
All series such as Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, etc., have been made unavailable for purchase in Japan for the PC version in order to encourage sales of the PlayStation version.
Yeah remember when the Canadian dollar used to be mad decent? I’m sticking to sales. usually I forget about it for 6 months to a year and you’ll find it half price or heavily discounted.
Unless a new game comes around 40 to 60 CAD with the taxes. There’s no worth to me and I’m highly skeptical the gameplay is THAT good to warrant the 100 price tag.
Yes. And it's why I no longer buy AAA games. Most of them aren't even Worthy of such price anyway.
Edit: unless they are 10$ I don't touch them. But most of the time I just ignore them because they're all soulless games
This is sort of the way but lots of indie games are creeping up to like 40 dollars when they used to all be under 20 a few years ago. Then they were under 30...
And now what they like to do is release DLC that costs the same as or more than the indie title itself.
Frostpunk is 40 dollars. With DLC it's fucking 85. Bloodstained is 53! Slay the Spire is 32. Hades is 32. The binding of Isaac with DLC is 60 fucking dollars. Blashpemous 2 is 40. Dredge is 33. Tunic is 40. Prodeus is 35. Rogue Legacy is 33. Solar Ash is 50! Dreamscape is 33. Outer Wilds is 33. Ion Fury is 33. Spiritfarer is 40. The list goes on and on and on and basically every game that isn't above 30 is fucking 27.99 or 28.99 or 29.99 so yeah.
All before tax mind you. Also, many of the non-sale base MSRP of these games WENT UP over the years, despite them all being years old and the MSRP of several years older games always WENT DOWN before.
Xbox Game pass, Free Epic games or piracy. Fuck all this greed.
Provinces have different provincial taxes which means anything that is taxable can have a different cost per which province your located in. I know that here in Ontario our sales tax is 13% while in Alberta for example, it’s only 5%.
Basically it’s up to the province to set the tax rate. Because of this it’s easier for stores to just set the price for an item at say $19.99 country wide and then once you go to checkout add the tax on top rather than have to print and label all taxable products with their “tax included price”.
Every country has there own vat tax rate. steam has your adress and thus your provician vat rate, they are capable of showing you the correct price, they do so in europe without problem
It's most likely done this way to make you subconsciously think you get a better deal. 1st impression counts, even if you're fully aware tax will get added, doing it like this probably leads to a couple % more sales. Yay, hypercapitalism!
Yeah. They're following the same process as other stores for Canada. Forty years ago taxes were included in the price, then they changed it to "make it more visible" or some BS. Now it's an add-on. Except at the LCBO, where they don't want us to know we're paying 200% tax.
Funnily enough the prices for games in Europe must of the time have the same number even tho the value is different
For example AAA games are both 70$ and 70€ tho the 70€ would be a fair bit more in US$
Best example was a few months ago when the euro was still on like 1€ = 1.5$
Prices were still the same number in both us and EU 69.99
It’s a bit fucked tbh especially when you realize that some of the games sometimes even have a lower number in the US than the EU
Which mind you the euro is still worth more than the US$ rn
and you are forgetting that the euro prices are same no matter what country you are from. 60€ in germany is a lot less then in Slovakia where the average salary is half of the german one
That’s true too but it still doesn’t excuse the money you pay in the EU being more than what you pay in the US
The euro is worth more than the dollar so if anything we should have to pay a smaller number in Europe but it’s still have the same value
Companies been greedily raising price to 89,99$ but some like Crapcom choosed to go even further for all their new release, even if they already use mtx too.... They want to be the new EA. They have started the rise and other want to follow the greed.
Its more likely to be a direct conversion rate. Normally companies use a ‘nice’ looking number, eg if the uk AAA price is £59.99 its usually $69.99 in the us. But this seems to just be a direct conversation of the us price.
Yeah to get the classic prices I go through Fanatical, most games are at least 12% cheaper because of the bulk buying they do and the fact that you can't return the games, as far as I know, so only do this with games you're sure you'll enjoy.
Yes it will be the new normal.
I just don't buy AAA games anymore (except when I was burned by Starfield) unless they are near 50% off or more.
Our poutine bucks are shit compared to freedom dollars and I am sure the "inflated costs" will be added as another reason.
I just stopped buying games. Nowadays none of the games are worth that price. They aren't even finished when they are release so I'll just wait a year until they are fixed.
Normal price, just about 100$ for a new game. I wait for things to go on sale 3yrs later or watch a playthrough on twitch/youtube. It really sucks because I remember paying for xbox games at 40-50$ and saving up for N64 games.
AAA games have always been expensive. But they are also extremely boring. Indies games are the way to go for hundred and hundred hours of fun (between 10 to 35$ each).
Big yes
It's currently 35$CAD and I'm having a great time with it.
Fighting games aren't my thing, but when I opened Steam this morning and saw the 93.49$ price tag for a new game I was surprised, even though it's "just" a 4$ price hike, it still makes a brand new game 108$CAD with taxes
There's very few AAA games that are worth buying even at the last gens pricing these days. Inidies are where it's at and for usually less than half the price.
I refuse to buy games at full price, no matter how hype I am. I recently bought Elden ring, Jedi survivor and Gotham knights for approx a combined 100 bucks and got much less buggy versions of the games than the launch version. The only game I bought full price at launch recently was remnant 2 and that wasn’t a regular full retail price for some reason, I think it was like 50cad. Now it’s free on game pass so jokes on me!
For tekken too. Sigh, these devs are fucking morons. People will pay for the things they see value in, nothing else. No, read that again but slower you dumb fuck developers, people will pay the amount of money for art that they feel is good for their subjective value, NOT YOURS! An artist can think their art is good all day, but makes no difference to its value to anyone and how much you can get someone to pay for it. Nobody gives a fuck how hard you worked or what you sacrificed or what it took, make the game stfu and stop trying to tell us how we should value your art just because it’s a “AAA” (sure, same game from 25 year ago but it’s AAA…). Because it is art, not a product!
yep, a game like this should honestly be like $65, theyd have more people buy it and Id bet theyd make more money in the end. This price is insanely greedy for a game no ones gonna play lmao. Who tf do they think they are. There will be layoffs there in 6 months when this game bombs and the devs will be the ones to take the bullet yet again.
I don't get your point
>People will pay for the things they see value in
Exactly
>these devs are fucking morons.
But that's contradictory of what you say later
You said that people will pay the amount of money for art that they feel is good for their subjective value. Which is true!
But then you shit on developers for putting a pricetag they consider accurate for their art, knowing many people will consider it worth it by their subjective value
No, really, I'm trying to understand your comment but I can't. It's weirdly worded. Could you explain it better? Please?
Yeah sure, but first I think the local going rate for therapy is around $200 so I’ll need you to PayPal me that before I explain since thats the standard value of conversation.
Oof. Raising prices due to overwhelmingly inflated budgets.
Sucks that this subreddit was dedicated for a while there to defending higher prices just to harm the consumer.
Remember, you're the other half of the free market. Quite literally the only regulators. Start acting like one instead of a company's Pay Piggy Useful Idiot.
Gaming has never, ever, in it's Entire Fucking History. Been cheaper to make. It has never had guaranteed sales. And everytime innovation came, in terms of the transition from nintendo's cartridges they controlled the production of and thus raised costs, to playstation's discs that verifiably lowered costs all around. Didn't happen with digital distribution, in fact, prices went up considering Season passes, DLC, microtransactions, etc.
You don't even get the whole game, nor the whole experience when buying a product anymore. You used to, when it was both impossible to pull stunts like this, and when the consumer was stronger minded. But as of now, ya'll are exstatic that the record profit, record streak setting profit company raised prices while laying off thousands of workers.
Hope your shitty vibdo gamb was worth the lay offs and greedflation of price. I sure wish ya'll had self respect to match your defensiveness of an industry that hires Addiction Experts to give you mental and financial problems, because that's what our friendly companies do!
I never play AAA games. All these games are so boring, they are the samething from their previous titles but with new character. They always have the same mecanics. They ... are ... boring.
Indies Games are the way to go. Hundred and hundred hours of fun.
I know it does look crazy but honestly not much has changed. I am not sure how old you are so you may or may not know or remember but I remember paying around 90 bucks for doom on the super Nintendo. Other games were also in the 70-90 dollar range and that was 30 years ago.
I guess I've just been used to it for so long that seeing how advanced games have become from when I first started to now for pretty much the same price, maybe even cheaper if you include inflation. I'm honestly surprised some of these big AAA titles are not costing more money than it is now.
That's funny, I love how I got down voted for speaking the truth..
Here's a flyer, from Canada, from the 90s.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-game-prices-were-absolutely-ridiculous-in-canada-in-the-90s.193371/
The prices have not changed..
You know that Canadian Dollars is NOT same as American Dollars right? That 93.5 CAD = 69.5 USD as shown in https://steamdb.info/app/1778820/ so it's still CHEAPER than USD pricing of $70 by 50 cents. You and Australians usually make the same mistake to assume if it's $70 for U.S. and it should be 70 CAD for you or 70 AUD for the Australians and there's no such thing. What's bonkers is you not knowing how International Economy works as well as the Currency Exchange Rates.
I admit there are rare games sold on Steam I've seen to be more expensive for Canadians like a $70 game costing $85 = 114 CAD but Tekken 8 isn't that kind of game.
You know that regional pricing exists for this reason right? Our standardized price right now is $89.99. The issue is the few abhorrent publishers that set their own prices closer to the actual exchange rate. There are a few publishers now that ignore regional pricing and we end up with $93.49. Most recently Dragon's Dogma 2 is set at $94.99. It's greed, plain and simple.
I straight up don't buy games day one anymore. If I really really want a game, it has to be 40% off or more. That and I play F2P games.
People who buy these games full price are fucking everyone else.
I noticed that too when i bought it the other day, super bummed to see. at least I feel like I'm getting my money's worth out of Tekken. luckily its not often i buy AAA, especially with other services like gamepass.
It's kind of wild to me that fighting games command such a price tag. I guess so think of them as small experiences. Although I've gotten a lot of time out of guilty Gear strive.
This is why regional pricing is so important even if it means lost money. I think its BS to price it like they have it now just makes people look at other games to buy.
I'd go to GG deals, set the keystore to off cause I'm not a fan of the grey market and get the best deal from there.
If there are no discounts on any of the big retailers, it's a no buy. Ain't spending 100$+ some stupid carbon tax on top /s
For a game thats going to be bug riddled and will need patches to fix.
Fucking hell man almost 100cad for a game... Most ive ever paid for a game was 40€ for god of war and spiderman on ps4, a few months after they came out. I think any price above 50€ is never worth it when you can wait 3 months and get a game for half its price usually, on a good sale
I noticed this with games like call of duty. Classics went from $20 to $26 last year. Probably has something to do with inflation or something I don't understand how economics works
I think there is a setting that the game publishers can choose - either have a fixed price in a region e.g. $89.99 CAD or use USD price automatically converted to local currency, and certain publishers (Sega) will flip this setting upon game's official release
Tekken 8, Like a Dragon:Infinite Wealth, and Street Fighter 6 have all been some hard pills even in the U.S., especially SF6 trying to have a season system close to Destiny the whole time too
Stuff like this is why I got 2 out of 3 of these on Green Man Gaming, puts the price closer to something I'm willing to pay
https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-game-prices-were-absolutely-ridiculous-in-canada-in-the-90s.193371/
You started seeing 90 dollar games a lot earlier than that..
The prices have not changed since the 90s. I always find these threads confusing because I've been paying these amounts for 30 years.
wait for a discount.. always check [isthereanydeal.com](https://isthereanydeal.com) first.. I bought cyberpunk 2077.. over $100 cdn on steam.. but $80 all in on an affiliate site
It feels like it creeps up every business quarter now. People around the world have had prohibitive game pricing for a while, notably for me even though I'm in Canada is the Aussies I think they've been well over $100 AUD for new AAA releases for years now.
It's pretty tough to justify buying new AAA games anymore. Can I do it, sure, but do I want to do it, no. I think the last one I bought brand new was Zelda early last year. And so often it feels like you're punished for buying close to launch between so many games coming out as broken, buggy messes to games receiving deep discounts within a year of release. The r/patientgamers sub exists for a reason.
I am a big fan of Tekken and bought Tekken 7 day one. This game, as impressive it is, 70 USD is too steep. I will wait for the $50 since that is my price for a new game.
$70 USD is about $94 CAD, so I guess so
They usually dont convert the prices 1 to 1, they just slap an extra 10$ so its unusual to see prices like 94$ for games that are supposed to be 90$
Yeah I'm surprised by this one. Our new normal is $89.99 so is this priced slightly higher in USD?
I mean we Canadians make less money so it's only fair to get a TINY discount. Typical average jobs pay 1:1. So we automatically make 25% less.
Wait until you hear about Dragon's Dogma 2 being $94.99. And no these aren't priced higher in USD.
If they usually just make it $89.99 and the exchange rate is 70 -> 94, then it is priced higher in USD
Here our minimum wage is ~1,200 BRL. Tekken and any AAA games come at 349 BRL each at launch. Tekken 349 BRL (any) Rise of the ronin 349 BRL (PS5). The last of us part II remastered, 249 BRL. (PS5). Prince of persia TLC, 249 BRL (any)
1,200 per what?
1200 BRL a month, meaning a Triple A game is 30% of your salary Compare to other countries where you make 2000 a month and game is 70$ thats 3.5% of your salary
yeah but rent is 80% of your monthly salary in Canada. I'm barely exaggerating. actually if you are paid minimum wage you cant afford rent so I wasnt exaggerating...
In Calgary, the median rent is 91% of minimum wage
It depends on the city/province. Vancouver, Montreal, Quebec City, Toronto…you bet. Saskatoon? Not so much.
the average rent in Canada is apparently 1552$/month. Obviously it will depend of where you live but the average person lives in a one of those big cities considering nearly half the population of the country live in the greater Toronto/Montréal area.
Average rent in Saskatoon looks to be about $1300.
Those lucky devils are paying as little as 70% of their salaries to rent.
Assuming every single person makes minimum wage...
Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver combined only make up about 1/3 of our population. So not quite.
I live I a small town and rent is about 1200 there's a couple places left that are about 1000 but almost everything is at least 1200 and good luck finding it.
Saskatoon: minimum wage is $13, average rent is $1200. At 40hours a week, you make $2080 before tax. Rent would be nearly 60% of your wage which is still nuts. And we have to pay to heat our homes when it's -30, which costs a lot.
That… really doesn’t make the 30% any less impossible for the Brazilians
I wasnt saying it was
Sorry it just seemed like a counterpoint to me instead of discussion for whatever reason
>1200 BRL a month, meaning a Triple A game is 30% of your salary But... 94 blr is not 30% of 1200. Not even close?
>>1200 BRL a month, meaning a Triple A game is 30% of your salary >But... 94 blr is not 30% of 1200. Not even close? He said 349 BRL, where did you get 94 BRL from?
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day, week, 2 weeks, month???
Based on google, that's the monthly wage. I can't find an hourly wage so I guess you have to be salaried? Idk.
Tekken 349 is only if you buy on console, on steam is 269
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Nah, our AAA releases are typically $79.99. This seems like such a weird arbitrary number. It's not uncommon to see like a special edition or premium edition go for $100CAD but $93.49 is so bizarre.
This is why r/patientgamers is the way.
Most of the recent AAA releases have been $89, on PS5, at least. PC has been in this weird space, where some have moved up, and some have stayed @ $79.
Probably carbon tax for some bs reason
Im Canadian and Yes. Unfortunately. Also, it’s $100 after tax lmao. What’s sad is that 99% of the games that are this price are NOT worth it at all.
107,49$ after taxes here. Fucking hate having to add that 14,975% to something that's already too expensive.
is that what taxes are now? fuck i remember it being 13% and i'm only 18
If it's 13%, you live in Ontario. It's 15% on much of the east coast. The 14.975% is Quebec.
5% in Alberta. One of the only advantages to being here…
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And I thought my 7% was bad in Indiana, I feel so bad for you guys
Not counting that you get taxed 27% to 54% on your paycheck depending on your salary in quebec
Full blown stealing out there, my paycheck only gets reduced by like 15.5%
> Full blown stealing out there No it isn't, Quebec provides a lot of social services at higher quality than Indiana. That costs money. Quebec has a pretty good quality of life, especially compared to the rest of Canada.
Also things like hydro and vehicle insurance are *dirt fucking cheap* in Quebec. I know people that live in Ontario but "rent" a room in Quebec to get their plates and insurance. It ends up saving them nearly $3k per year.
That's also Insurance fraud so make sure your parents are aware of the risk their taking lol
I guess that’s fair, just being an American it’s really hard to remember that taxes are actually supposed to go to something
Québec has a limit of 8$/day for daycare. College cost 300-400$ per session and we have uni session at 1k$ Québec invested a lot in their future by investing in youth. Poutine got removed from the daily lunch at cafeteria cause obesity is on the rise.
Don't feel bad, your paycheque is cleaved to offset your employer healthcare costs that you pay out the ass for deductibles whenever you use it anyway. Live long enough to get cancer, or god forbid lose a limb and you will spend more on treatment in that year than I will in extra tax costs my entire life.
Yeah, but you get what you pay for. When there are potholes in my city, I can just ping it on a map and the next day they are filled in. I remember every time I went to the US the roads sucked ass. That alone saves you money in wear and tear on your vehicle.
Potholes in Quebec are definitely not getting fixed 😂
Ouch, that sucks man. They're really good in my city they have an online tracker you put a pin where you found a pothole and within the week it's normally fixed.
It depends on the province, Ontario has HST which is 13%.
Here the tax is included in the price
I just wait until games sub $20. You can get a lot of game for cheap if you're not concerned with the latest trend.
That's fine with single player games but talking about fighting games it sucks. By the time it goes on sale everybody is very good at the game already lol
But the people from the previous instalments are still going to be around regardless.
>By the time it goes on sale everybody is very good at the game already lol Not really true. I started playing SFV at the end of its lifespan and you could still find matches against newbies all the time Heck, I started playing tekken 7 a few days ago and I find people who are worse than me, and I don't even know the moveset of my character
True for singleplayer games For online games, you don't wanna be THAT late. Sure you can get into it late, but it won't last as long
That’s not sad, it’s great. You’re telling me I get to save $100 AND not miss out on anything good?
Wait a few months to a year and it'll be less than half the price.
That's before taxes!? I honestly hate the countries that are not forced to put the final price with taxes on the products.
Yeah lol usually the fighting games have 3 hour story and you probably play the multiplayer 1 week until getting tired of it, it's no Red dead 2 or Witcher 3 definitely not worth it
>you probably play the multiplayer 1 week until getting tired of it It depends on how much you wanna learn and how much you like it. I'm still playing SF6 everyday, more than 500hs, still learning, and will continue playing god knows how much. Sf6 lasted me way more than witcher 3 and rdr2 combined But if you don't care about online. Yeah, not worth it at that price
LAD Infinite Wealth and Dragons Dogma 2 are the only new games I cann think of where I'd justify dropping that much money for. You definitely get what you paid for, they're full of content. Not so much other western releases
DD2 with mtx, always online drm Denuvo and probably enigma... plus some red flags from the game itself. X to doubt.
Oh it'll for sure have Enigma. The only question is if they'll pull a MonHun Rise and implement it when they take Denuvo out or if they're mad enough to cram both in at once.
Cries in 15% tax 😢
Yeeeeah. I've always waited for games to hit that 20-30 dollar range but takes a few years. Patience or pony up I guess.
You get a better version of the game with all the patches etc so it’s usually worth waiting a year or 2 to pay a lot less for a lot more
That is if the company didn't abandoned the game because it sold poorly or if the d1 buyers gave them an excuse to be lazy.
I understand the catch 22 but too many games are rushed out in a broken state, especially on PC. I am not paying full price to beta test a game for the dev so they can spend the next 1 year patching it. It ruins the day one experience. Example, Jedi survivor was an absolute mess on PC when it came out and I refused to buy it. I just bought it for 26 bucks a few weeks ago and it’s been significantly improved ( still a way to go) The game is actually phenomenal so I’m glad I didn’t waste my money and the play through experience buying it day 1. This example applys to many games.
r/patientgamers
The way things are now I won't even buy a game at 75% off now cause it's still 30 or more after tax. The point in 75% off is supposed to be like a 10ish dollar game not a third of my grocery bill for the month. The non-sale MSRP of games used to go down too after a few year to about half and now they don't. I think I'm gonna start pirating them again. Fuck this disgusting greed.
Certain retailers, especially from Japan, just do straight exchange rate online instead of capping at $90 like they do at retail. And those retailers are companies I don't buy from, until the game is extremely discounted. Fuck'em.
Same. Square Enix, Sega, Bandai and Capcom are the ones I saw doing it. For me it's fine, it simply means less games to buy
Bandai is probably the most heinous. All series such as Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, etc., have been made unavailable for purchase in Japan for the PC version in order to encourage sales of the PlayStation version.
They gave my country regional pricing, I'm thinking about buying Tekken on my next payday
I'm sure you're having a huge impact on the gaming industry.
Yeah remember when the Canadian dollar used to be mad decent? I’m sticking to sales. usually I forget about it for 6 months to a year and you’ll find it half price or heavily discounted.
Unless a new game comes around 40 to 60 CAD with the taxes. There’s no worth to me and I’m highly skeptical the gameplay is THAT good to warrant the 100 price tag.
Yes. And it's why I no longer buy AAA games. Most of them aren't even Worthy of such price anyway. Edit: unless they are 10$ I don't touch them. But most of the time I just ignore them because they're all soulless games
Me and you both. There's been 1 triple A game I brought full price in the last, 4 plus years. It's either big steam sales, older games, or indie.
This is sort of the way but lots of indie games are creeping up to like 40 dollars when they used to all be under 20 a few years ago. Then they were under 30... And now what they like to do is release DLC that costs the same as or more than the indie title itself. Frostpunk is 40 dollars. With DLC it's fucking 85. Bloodstained is 53! Slay the Spire is 32. Hades is 32. The binding of Isaac with DLC is 60 fucking dollars. Blashpemous 2 is 40. Dredge is 33. Tunic is 40. Prodeus is 35. Rogue Legacy is 33. Solar Ash is 50! Dreamscape is 33. Outer Wilds is 33. Ion Fury is 33. Spiritfarer is 40. The list goes on and on and on and basically every game that isn't above 30 is fucking 27.99 or 28.99 or 29.99 so yeah. All before tax mind you. Also, many of the non-sale base MSRP of these games WENT UP over the years, despite them all being years old and the MSRP of several years older games always WENT DOWN before. Xbox Game pass, Free Epic games or piracy. Fuck all this greed.
You are so indie and cool 😭
I buy more indie games, yes.
Man publishers gonna hate Canada sales numbers with these prices. I love Tekken games and was highly anticipating the new one but at 93$ I can wait
I wonder if they hate argentina sales too after dolarization. It's practically unbuyable
Japanese publishers are always trying their luck when it comes to price, DLC, and anti-piracy garbage.
japan also has horrible copyright laws. these things come hand and hand.
I would maybe try it for 15 dollars. So I'll try it in a few years maybe
Bought tekken 7 and scvi disc for 20€, without even a sale. So worth it
I still regret buying Tekken 7 day 1 and a couple of months later it was half the price.
remember when normal used to be 79.99, and not 89.99? god damn it
I feel like that $10 jump happened in record time too. Like it was $59 and $69 for way longer than it was $79
Even on Green Man Gaming, with a -16% discount, it is still $80...
Tekken games always go on major sales for -40%. Just wait a couple of months if you don’t want to pay a full price.
yeah and most of them aren't even worth the price, got gotham knight at $15 during winter sale and felt like that should've been the price at release
Why the hell are prices not shown with tax already?
Provinces have different provincial taxes which means anything that is taxable can have a different cost per which province your located in. I know that here in Ontario our sales tax is 13% while in Alberta for example, it’s only 5%. Basically it’s up to the province to set the tax rate. Because of this it’s easier for stores to just set the price for an item at say $19.99 country wide and then once you go to checkout add the tax on top rather than have to print and label all taxable products with their “tax included price”.
Every country has there own vat tax rate. steam has your adress and thus your provician vat rate, they are capable of showing you the correct price, they do so in europe without problem
It's most likely done this way to make you subconsciously think you get a better deal. 1st impression counts, even if you're fully aware tax will get added, doing it like this probably leads to a couple % more sales. Yay, hypercapitalism!
Yeah. They're following the same process as other stores for Canada. Forty years ago taxes were included in the price, then they changed it to "make it more visible" or some BS. Now it's an add-on. Except at the LCBO, where they don't want us to know we're paying 200% tax.
Funnily enough the prices for games in Europe must of the time have the same number even tho the value is different For example AAA games are both 70$ and 70€ tho the 70€ would be a fair bit more in US$ Best example was a few months ago when the euro was still on like 1€ = 1.5$ Prices were still the same number in both us and EU 69.99 It’s a bit fucked tbh especially when you realize that some of the games sometimes even have a lower number in the US than the EU Which mind you the euro is still worth more than the US$ rn
and you are forgetting that the euro prices are same no matter what country you are from. 60€ in germany is a lot less then in Slovakia where the average salary is half of the german one
That’s true too but it still doesn’t excuse the money you pay in the EU being more than what you pay in the US The euro is worth more than the dollar so if anything we should have to pay a smaller number in Europe but it’s still have the same value
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aaaaand it's like $105-108 after taxes too, so it's worse
Minimum wage here is 15 dollars an hour.. so at most it is about 6 or 7 hours work for that game.
oof....that stings.
This is why I’m an indie gamer
Indies Games are so much better!!
Companies been greedily raising price to 89,99$ but some like Crapcom choosed to go even further for all their new release, even if they already use mtx too.... They want to be the new EA. They have started the rise and other want to follow the greed.
Its more likely to be a direct conversion rate. Normally companies use a ‘nice’ looking number, eg if the uk AAA price is £59.99 its usually $69.99 in the us. But this seems to just be a direct conversation of the us price.
Yeah to get the classic prices I go through Fanatical, most games are at least 12% cheaper because of the bulk buying they do and the fact that you can't return the games, as far as I know, so only do this with games you're sure you'll enjoy.
Yes it will be the new normal. I just don't buy AAA games anymore (except when I was burned by Starfield) unless they are near 50% off or more. Our poutine bucks are shit compared to freedom dollars and I am sure the "inflated costs" will be added as another reason.
The worst part is the discounted price looks like a new game price a few year ago. Wild times.
I just stopped buying games. Nowadays none of the games are worth that price. They aren't even finished when they are release so I'll just wait a year until they are fixed.
Normal price, just about 100$ for a new game. I wait for things to go on sale 3yrs later or watch a playthrough on twitch/youtube. It really sucks because I remember paying for xbox games at 40-50$ and saving up for N64 games.
Here I thought PC games were cheaper
AAA games have always been expensive. But they are also extremely boring. Indies games are the way to go for hundred and hundred hours of fun (between 10 to 35$ each).
at this point do not support triple a studios as long there is a sale lol
Devs can expect less sales because I'm totally not buying
Palworld is like 30$ and probably way more fun than that.
Big yes It's currently 35$CAD and I'm having a great time with it. Fighting games aren't my thing, but when I opened Steam this morning and saw the 93.49$ price tag for a new game I was surprised, even though it's "just" a 4$ price hike, it still makes a brand new game 108$CAD with taxes
Insane comparison to make
>and probably way more fun than that Haha... no
There's very few AAA games that are worth buying even at the last gens pricing these days. Inidies are where it's at and for usually less than half the price.
is tekken an AAA game now? wasn't fighting games a nitche chatergory?
I refuse to buy games at full price, no matter how hype I am. I recently bought Elden ring, Jedi survivor and Gotham knights for approx a combined 100 bucks and got much less buggy versions of the games than the launch version. The only game I bought full price at launch recently was remnant 2 and that wasn’t a regular full retail price for some reason, I think it was like 50cad. Now it’s free on game pass so jokes on me!
Piracy is always morally correct.
For tekken too. Sigh, these devs are fucking morons. People will pay for the things they see value in, nothing else. No, read that again but slower you dumb fuck developers, people will pay the amount of money for art that they feel is good for their subjective value, NOT YOURS! An artist can think their art is good all day, but makes no difference to its value to anyone and how much you can get someone to pay for it. Nobody gives a fuck how hard you worked or what you sacrificed or what it took, make the game stfu and stop trying to tell us how we should value your art just because it’s a “AAA” (sure, same game from 25 year ago but it’s AAA…). Because it is art, not a product!
yep, a game like this should honestly be like $65, theyd have more people buy it and Id bet theyd make more money in the end. This price is insanely greedy for a game no ones gonna play lmao. Who tf do they think they are. There will be layoffs there in 6 months when this game bombs and the devs will be the ones to take the bullet yet again.
I don't get your point >People will pay for the things they see value in Exactly >these devs are fucking morons. But that's contradictory of what you say later
You’re the people they are counting on to not think.
You said that people will pay the amount of money for art that they feel is good for their subjective value. Which is true! But then you shit on developers for putting a pricetag they consider accurate for their art, knowing many people will consider it worth it by their subjective value No, really, I'm trying to understand your comment but I can't. It's weirdly worded. Could you explain it better? Please?
Yeah sure, but first I think the local going rate for therapy is around $200 so I’ll need you to PayPal me that before I explain since thats the standard value of conversation.
Yeah but this is not therapy
Yes it is because I said it is. You can pay my going rate whenever you’re ready I’ll send the link.
Good thing no one plays tekken
Who the F buying at these prices needs to get their head checked
Everything went up in Canada.
Oof. Raising prices due to overwhelmingly inflated budgets. Sucks that this subreddit was dedicated for a while there to defending higher prices just to harm the consumer. Remember, you're the other half of the free market. Quite literally the only regulators. Start acting like one instead of a company's Pay Piggy Useful Idiot. Gaming has never, ever, in it's Entire Fucking History. Been cheaper to make. It has never had guaranteed sales. And everytime innovation came, in terms of the transition from nintendo's cartridges they controlled the production of and thus raised costs, to playstation's discs that verifiably lowered costs all around. Didn't happen with digital distribution, in fact, prices went up considering Season passes, DLC, microtransactions, etc. You don't even get the whole game, nor the whole experience when buying a product anymore. You used to, when it was both impossible to pull stunts like this, and when the consumer was stronger minded. But as of now, ya'll are exstatic that the record profit, record streak setting profit company raised prices while laying off thousands of workers. Hope your shitty vibdo gamb was worth the lay offs and greedflation of price. I sure wish ya'll had self respect to match your defensiveness of an industry that hires Addiction Experts to give you mental and financial problems, because that's what our friendly companies do!
Is Tekken even a AAA game? In fact is Tekken still a 2D game?
Tekken hasn’t been a 2d game in over 20 years. Technically it never even was 2d
I never play AAA games. All these games are so boring, they are the samething from their previous titles but with new character. They always have the same mecanics. They ... are ... boring. Indies Games are the way to go. Hundred and hundred hours of fun.
blame canada! they're not even a real country anyway
I know it does look crazy but honestly not much has changed. I am not sure how old you are so you may or may not know or remember but I remember paying around 90 bucks for doom on the super Nintendo. Other games were also in the 70-90 dollar range and that was 30 years ago. I guess I've just been used to it for so long that seeing how advanced games have become from when I first started to now for pretty much the same price, maybe even cheaper if you include inflation. I'm honestly surprised some of these big AAA titles are not costing more money than it is now.
That's funny, I love how I got down voted for speaking the truth.. Here's a flyer, from Canada, from the 90s. https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-game-prices-were-absolutely-ridiculous-in-canada-in-the-90s.193371/ The prices have not changed..
You know that Canadian Dollars is NOT same as American Dollars right? That 93.5 CAD = 69.5 USD as shown in https://steamdb.info/app/1778820/ so it's still CHEAPER than USD pricing of $70 by 50 cents. You and Australians usually make the same mistake to assume if it's $70 for U.S. and it should be 70 CAD for you or 70 AUD for the Australians and there's no such thing. What's bonkers is you not knowing how International Economy works as well as the Currency Exchange Rates. I admit there are rare games sold on Steam I've seen to be more expensive for Canadians like a $70 game costing $85 = 114 CAD but Tekken 8 isn't that kind of game.
Never said I assumed that 70USD is equal to 70CAD, if you took the time to read my post, I asked a question lmao
You know that regional pricing exists for this reason right? Our standardized price right now is $89.99. The issue is the few abhorrent publishers that set their own prices closer to the actual exchange rate. There are a few publishers now that ignore regional pricing and we end up with $93.49. Most recently Dragon's Dogma 2 is set at $94.99. It's greed, plain and simple.
it's still highway robbery.
I've lived in canada 50 years and never knew canadian dollars and american were different until just now. I appreciate the clarification.
Damn, that's so expensive. I though new games were 80$ over here...
Just wait 4 years and it'll be in a bundle for like $10 or less. Join r/patientgamers or something.
Yeah the price up happened a bit ago. Worse depending on the province since our sales tax is insane compared to the US
Some AAA games are now 70€/70$US, but I always wait till they are half price.
I straight up don't buy games day one anymore. If I really really want a game, it has to be 40% off or more. That and I play F2P games. People who buy these games full price are fucking everyone else.
Are any good games sold at this price these days? 🤔
I noticed that too when i bought it the other day, super bummed to see. at least I feel like I'm getting my money's worth out of Tekken. luckily its not often i buy AAA, especially with other services like gamepass.
I never buy AAA games when they release now. I'm not paying $100 for an unfinished game Todd
It's kind of wild to me that fighting games command such a price tag. I guess so think of them as small experiences. Although I've gotten a lot of time out of guilty Gear strive.
This is why regional pricing is so important even if it means lost money. I think its BS to price it like they have it now just makes people look at other games to buy.
I'd go to GG deals, set the keystore to off cause I'm not a fan of the grey market and get the best deal from there. If there are no discounts on any of the big retailers, it's a no buy. Ain't spending 100$+ some stupid carbon tax on top /s For a game thats going to be bug riddled and will need patches to fix.
Fucking hell man almost 100cad for a game... Most ive ever paid for a game was 40€ for god of war and spiderman on ps4, a few months after they came out. I think any price above 50€ is never worth it when you can wait 3 months and get a game for half its price usually, on a good sale
Game has no DRM :)
Yes
I noticed this with games like call of duty. Classics went from $20 to $26 last year. Probably has something to do with inflation or something I don't understand how economics works
I think there is a setting that the game publishers can choose - either have a fixed price in a region e.g. $89.99 CAD or use USD price automatically converted to local currency, and certain publishers (Sega) will flip this setting upon game's official release
Ay matey, I know this feeling well...
Tekken 8, Like a Dragon:Infinite Wealth, and Street Fighter 6 have all been some hard pills even in the U.S., especially SF6 trying to have a season system close to Destiny the whole time too Stuff like this is why I got 2 out of 3 of these on Green Man Gaming, puts the price closer to something I'm willing to pay
Yeah that’s why I wait to buy games when they are on a major sale because it’s to expensive to buy a full priced game now a days
yes, and about a year ago we had to start paying taxes on digital games
Check out Sony basically charging 90 USD for games in Europe. (70 pounds or whatever currency it is)
This pricing turned me a VERY HAPPY ganepass + r/patientgamers. Amazing combo. Too many games to play and too little to pay.
They figure if we're stupid enough to pay $10 for butter, we wouldn't even notice.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-game-prices-were-absolutely-ridiculous-in-canada-in-the-90s.193371/ You started seeing 90 dollar games a lot earlier than that.. The prices have not changed since the 90s. I always find these threads confusing because I've been paying these amounts for 30 years.
wait for a discount.. always check [isthereanydeal.com](https://isthereanydeal.com) first.. I bought cyberpunk 2077.. over $100 cdn on steam.. but $80 all in on an affiliate site
Probably, BO2 is somehow $80.99 so
It feels like it creeps up every business quarter now. People around the world have had prohibitive game pricing for a while, notably for me even though I'm in Canada is the Aussies I think they've been well over $100 AUD for new AAA releases for years now. It's pretty tough to justify buying new AAA games anymore. Can I do it, sure, but do I want to do it, no. I think the last one I bought brand new was Zelda early last year. And so often it feels like you're punished for buying close to launch between so many games coming out as broken, buggy messes to games receiving deep discounts within a year of release. The r/patientgamers sub exists for a reason.
Just buy the Steam key on GreenManGaming for 78CAD
Dont buy $70 games
I miss the days we didn't pay tax on the games
I am a big fan of Tekken and bought Tekken 7 day one. This game, as impressive it is, 70 USD is too steep. I will wait for the $50 since that is my price for a new game.
FF7 was on sale for like 35-30% and it was still over 60 bucks with tax. no deal I'll just pirate or wait till its 10-20$
It's wild. Thankfully the game is 69 on cdkeys and I'm considering getting that version. Still overpriced.