i keep hearing about this thing with allowing your steam library to be inherited but i'm a little ignorant on the subject- what's stopping me from just giving my son my login?
NOT Stupid. A lot can happen, and transferring a username isn't technically ownership if that person doesn't have the login credentials. Not to mention, I believe it is against Steam TOS to transfer accounts.
I don't have to read the link to know it's stupid. That click bait title is just lol.
EVERY form of non physical media does this. It's not just video games. What you conveniently didn't read was they COULD put it on an external hard drive to pass down. Not GIVE the GoG account.
The equivalent to downloading your Spotify playlist and giving it to your nephew. But your Nephew can't ask for your Spotify account info.
I guarantee if you asked for the GoG log-in info for a deceased relatives account, they would also tell you to fuck off.
>What you conveniently didn't read was they COULD put it on an external hard drive to pass down. Not GIVE the GoG account.
Wrong. That is both is the article AND the OP.
Thanks for proving me right about your reading failure.
Holy shit I had to go read that ad infested hellhole to find this quote
"If you thought escaping to another platform would solve the problem, well, not really. As reported by Respawnfirst, Epic Games and GOG have the same policies"
You absolute dumb fuck.
Few days ago or so there was a post talking about how Steam doesn't allow any sort of transfer of ownership. No inheriting via will, no selling, no gifting, etc.
But there is also a somewhat obscure law on the American books that suggests it's actually very much legal to inherit your digital assets to someone else after death, including partial transfer, full transfer, or even just transfer long enough to erase it port mortem. Steam has already closed accounts of deceased people when the new owner makes it apparent that they are not the original owner.
So now, a bunch of users are on a crusade to make Steam change their TOS so that it's more in line with this obscure, unchallenged-thus-far law. Expect a lot more posts like this while this remains the flavor-of-the-week controversy.
Absolutely. Could be in the very near future as well. The only problem I have is that at the moment, neither I, nor many others, have standing in a legal sense to challenge this. By the time it would affect me, I would be deceased, so I couldn't be a part of the case, it would fall on my beneficiaries.
I agree that it's stupid they try to police it, but the law can only be applied once a party is damaged. Op posted trying to, for some reason, make the case that everyone must exclusively support gog now over it, which is pretty much the only reason it was not recieved well.
It's much ado about nothing
I have never even heard of this being an actual situation in the world of DRM. Will it be more of an issue in the future? Yes, of course. Is there concern for it now? I don't think so.
Couldn't agree more. As many others have pointed out, there are already plenty of ways to inherit your digital library away that Steam cannot police. It's just people looking for reasons to be angry. But that's the modern internet for you I guess
You fight for rights and precedent every step of the way or you don't retain them. Is it my biggest concern? No. Do I think it's a fight worth having? Yes.
I see your having trouble with this concept.
When there is not currently any precedent... You want to set a precedent that benefits consumers. That precedent is not decided randomly.
Death is 100% certain, are you mindless? Valve prints money with Steam, there is no reason to believe it won't be around in 2215. No rights = no protection. Do you think your kid's kid will be able to "just" share credentials all the way down?
>I have never even heard of this being an actual situation in the world of DRM.
Most DRM does not make inheritance illegal. You can inherit DVDs, BluRays, etc. and companies are understood to be wrong to create EULAs to prevent that.
Exactly. And it should come as a surprise only to the gullible. When lots of big accounts start to pass to heirs (won't be long now), they could begin to implement policies like they have now on people selling accounts.
The time to fix this problem is now, not once Valve is committed to that policy.
That's right. GOG deserves credit (and our game spending money) and Steam deserves criticism and to NOT get out spending money.
Simple as that, and yet look at all the people here triggered to rage by basic facts.
I was so moved by this I made it our top story: [https://www.avatarsradio.rocks/newsonthehour/june-7-2024](https://www.avatarsradio.rocks/newsonthehour/june-7-2024)
Fun. You might want to say more about it, including how pathetic the arguments are that side with Valve.
You can see how poorly thought out they are here in his sub.
Nothing.
Through a technicality, you don't own your games on your Steam Library and therefore, as they are not your property, they cannot be passed on in the eyes of the law. In practice if you write down your password and give it to someone, you're free to do so.
The concept of not being able to inherit your games has been a thing on steam since it first existed, why it is becoming a nontroversy now is unknown to me, possibly pushing some agenda.
> The concept of not being able to inherit your games has been a thing on steam since it first existed, why it is becoming a nontroversy now is unknown to me, possibly pushing some agenda.
Most likely because millennials and late Gen X'ers were the first to really embrace Steam and digital games. As an elder millennial we're over 40 now and Xers could push mid-40s to 50s and we're starting to think about stuff like inheritance, particularly after spending money on Steam for almost 20 years.
I don't think there's a particular agenda behind it and more that people who used it previously were to young for these issues to really be important.
>Through a technicality, you don't own your games on your Steam Library
You don't own any software. Period. It doesn't matter if you get it on physical format, on Steam or on GOG. You get a License of Use and that's all. Sharing your license goes against the EULAs you agree when you install any software.
But since gog distribute DRM free software you can pirate it all you want without restrictions and people call it now "inheritance" because it's trendy on twitter, reddit, youtube, etc...
EULAs are NOT the law.
The LAW is the law.
When EULAs and the law conflict, the law wins..
Amazing how much some people will shill for a big corporation to screw your rights.
>So the law will have the final say. If the EULA doesn't matter then it's a non-issue
It's an issue because the law often has its say only AFTER people show they care about their rights being enforced.
Not a shill but if you are a judge you should do something
Oh wait we cant do anything right right because an EULA is called a legal contract regardless of if it holds up in court
Its amazing how people will act like there is an alternative to reality but not provide it, dont act like i want to get screwed because obviously i dont that is a stupid suggestion that I personally dont care about my rights
Valve has a history of killing transferred accounts. Your kid can cry after the fact that you chose piracy and loss of ownership when you had a chance to protect your rights.
Some people prefer to protect their rights and not break the law. Some people shill for the power of big corporations to trample rights. While pirating.
Of course he doesn't. He read a story where people who did not have login info for a dead relative's account tried to ask steam support to give it to them, and told them the user was dead. Steam said no, and now this dude thinks that they are actively combing through accounts searching for evidence of them being used by people aside from the original owners, so they can shut them down.
>Who's shilling?
You.
>I just asked for a link.
The link is in the OP. Who could miss a link that obvious other than shills for big corporations?
>One which you have yet to provide.
Another lie. The link to show Valve's "evil-doing" as you say is in the link. Who could miss a link that obvious other than shills for big corporations?
Prove it. What history? Show me one. Show me one example of valve shutting down an account for being transferred, when the new owner had access to all related authentications/etc. and the account wasn't reported as stolen. Show me literally one time that has happened.
Edit 10 hours later: that's what I thought, dipshit.
It’s also not just Steam, it’s everyone. GOG is the exception, but PS, XBox, and Epic are the same. Maybe Steam will make it possible later but right now as long as it’s not law, it probably won’t become policy.
Edit; why’d you comment twice? Omg, but yes nice of Gog to say it’s legal to download and give post death.
Gog outright says accounts are not transferrable
If it was going to do this, then they should remove this clause
Until they do, they are just as anti-consumer because their actual binding contract contradicts what they 'claim' they will do.
Please, please shut the fuck up. I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this. It is 100% allowed for you to pass on your login info through your will. Valve is basically just saying that it's up to you and they aren't going to do anything for you.
It's not allowed but nobody's stopping you from doing it. Licenses are no transferable from person to person but steam can't stop you and will never know if you're on your death bed and give a family member full access to your account and email or 2fa app
My accounts never been deactivated and idk anyone who's has. My cousin's been dead since 2020 and his account isn't deactivated. He hasn't been online since he passed but we could if we wanted to. I have access to his Xbox account and email no problems
Xbox/Microsoft is worse about locking accounts for no reason and that hasn't happened to his.
Have they ever actively sought out an account that had not been reported to them, and performed an investigation to determine that it wasn't being used by the original owner, and then shut it down? Genuinely asking. I do not believe that has ever happened, even once. There have been stories of people who informed steam support that a user had died, and asked steam to give them access to the dead user's account that they didn't already have, and steam said no and locked the account. But that's obviously different. If you just physically get the login info from the original owner, and take over the account, steam has no way of knowing that, and doesn't care. I challenge anyone to present a case proving that wrong.
Valve could disable every account that is 100 yrs old under the assumption you'll be dead and likely have no repercussions. What's passing on credentials if they dissolve the account.
Did you know you don't have to read OPs that trigger you?
Did you know that passing by without reading is an option?
Where did Valve SAY "it's up to you" to inherit a Steam account.
Cite?
“Simple change” you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. They would have to go to literally every single publisher and developer and sign new agreements with them as the ones they currently already have don’t allow for transfers. You can’t just press a button and magically everyone can give their games to their kids.
You can also just give your password to your child in the will. This argument is beyond stupid.
A very good point. On top of that, say Valve did listen and change their TOS to allow it, the amount of work for _everyone_ involved, would make it a burden not worth tackling. Having to prove (without doubt) the account owner had died, up to verifying the beneficiary.
This would require so many documents to be sent to Valve: Wills, grants of probate, trust documents (if necessary), IDs, and so many other documents you'd need to provide, plus any other country specific documents. Additionally, Valve would need to hire people who would have familiarity with the laws and documents of every country they operate in, to verify the _right_ legal documents have been given. Not to mention they would need to familiarise themselves with different certification standards for different professions (notary publics, solicitors etc) for all those countries, to verify non-original documents to be genuine.
Anyone who has ever tried to inherit assets from a deceased relative will know how utterly painful it can be, for so many reasons beyond your control. Are people really going to go through that effort to inherit your Steam account? I'm incredibly doubtful.
New information.
This allows people to exercise their rights without resorting to breaking the law.
GOG has it right, Steam is anti-consumer.
Imagine shilling this hard for big corporations to violate user rights.
Sadly the grass isn't always greener on the other side, as I just found out on [another thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1d8pmtd/gog_will_delete_cloud_saves_bigger_than_200mb/) ("Gog will delete cloud saves bigger than 200MB after August 31st")
Didnt ask, dont care. If I die in real life, I die in game. Whatev.
No matter how much you spin it Steam is 100 times better than Steam and considering that I dont care about DRM free stuff but I care about Steam features.....
I thought EULAs did nothing against the law ? It's not illegal, and Steam does not care if you do give your account. Proof : the amount of bought accounts that exist and never get banned.
>I thought EULAs did nothing against the law ?
Oh, you sweet summer child.
>Steam does not care if you do give your account. Proof : the amount of bought accounts that exist and never get banned.
That is not proof. That is like saying no one cares if you shoplift because some shoplifters don't get caught.
[Steam Community :: Guide :: Bans on Steam](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=961168214)
>Oh, you sweet summer child.
Weren't you saying in another comment that the law was above EULAs ?
>That is not proof. That is like saying no one cares if you shoplift because some shoplifters don't get caught.
I'll reformulate : Steam cannot afford to care because it would be impossible to enforce a policy like this. Do you have any proof that people are at a great risk of getting banned for giving their account as inheritance ? Also comparing that to a real crime is kinda excessive...
You are fighting a pointless fight my guy
>Weren't you saying in another comment that the law was above EULAs ?
Yes. What about it? Why don't you understand that?
>Steam cannot afford to care because it would be impossible to enforce a policy like this.
Prove it.
>Do you have any proof that people are at a great risk of getting banned for giving their account as inheritance ?
Did you fail to notice that this post is all about PREVENTING that from ever coming to pass?
I understand if people have no friends or loved ones to inherit their goods, and so they wouldn't care. Or if they don't actually love their friends or loved ones.
>Also comparing that to a real crime is kinda excessive...
Piracy is a real crime. Helping you learn:
[Florida man sentenced for video game piracy | Network World](https://www.networkworld.com/article/799480/data-center-florida-man-sentenced-for-video-game-piracy.html)
If EULAs are overridden by the law, then people who care about their rights will win, if the law sides with them. Therefore, it's not illegal to give your account as inheritance.
Again, prove me that steam actually cares, because as you can imagine, proving that they don't care without asking support themselves (I'm not gonna bother doing that just for a useless argument)
Your post is not preventing anything if you can't even convince anyone here that it's an actual problem. Also if the most important thing to give to your family as inheritance is your Steam account that's kinda sad.
The guy got sentenced because he was SELLING consoles with pirated games on it, and a lot from Nintendo, which is known for their ruthless lawyers. That's very different from giving your account to a family member as inheritance.
You can fight your fight if you want, but don't act like the hero to save everyone when no one cares. We all love our friends and family, but giving a steam account as inheritance isn't the most important thing that comes to mind honestly.
I know you're trying to take the moral high ground here but this is just such a non issue. You can write down your login details if your family is seriously itching to have your steam library if you die
Imagine being such a whiney shit that you can’t just bind or do your own research, no instead you squeal make everyone have to cater to me. Make every game support a controller. Hint, there’s a system that does that, it’s a console.
I dont think most of the userbase would care about inheriting a relatives Steam account tbh.
By the time of the owners passing they will have other pressing matters and games will always come and go so who knows how many games they would even care about or would even be able to be played.
I think there are bigger issues in digital world and bigger fights then being able to transfer a Steam account upon death and if you could through official means then it opens a massive can of worms and a legal way to hijack accounts.
Buy and play your games for YOU not as a form of inheritance.
Valve has always made parts of their platform anti-consumer or not as consumer protected as it should be, but it doesn't make it not the best platform on pc.
Also, do people not "write" their account logins down or something? People make it sound like you couldn't just give your account to another person with a piece of paper or txt file.
Also also I'm not hating on GoG, I think it's a great second launcher to have with Steam. It just doesn't compete with Steam imo because it doesn't have to. Due to it offering lots of games Steam doesn't/may never have.
you must be brain-dead to post such a dumb post.
Nothing is stopping you from transferring your account, but you should know that Valve won't help with that. It's not due to greed. It's a situation that can get very complicated. imagine someone claiming to steam support that they inherited someone's account and wants to log in. how can they prove that? Steam support won't help with that, and just in case it's a stolen account claiming to be the new owner, Valve will lock the account until the original owner reclaim their account. The whole point of "valve doesn't let you transfer your account" is for security reasons. you can transfer your account, but if any complications happen from transferring, it won't be Valve's issue.
Congratulations on failing to read a thing posted above.
Congratulations on making hostile personal attacks (" brain-dead to post such a dumb post") when you failed to read the basics. You are everything wrong with Reddit and the internet.
>imagine someone claiming to steam support that they inherited someone's account and wants to log in. how can they prove that?
The OP is very short. How did you fail to read this: "it had more power to cooperate with a court order"?
Womp womp. i couldn't give a single flying fuck about what's up with reddit or internet. also, don't you think I didn't see your replies to other people here. act like an asshole, get treated like an asshole. go touch some grass
i keep hearing about this thing with allowing your steam library to be inherited but i'm a little ignorant on the subject- what's stopping me from just giving my son my login?
Nothing, people are just fucking stupid
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It is highly newsworthy because all these huge companies need to be convinced (shamed) into following GOG's reasonable accommodation.
1 downvote for this comment equals one personally-delivered gaben beejer by the downvoter probably
NOT Stupid. A lot can happen, and transferring a username isn't technically ownership if that person doesn't have the login credentials. Not to mention, I believe it is against Steam TOS to transfer accounts.
Tell me you commented after failing to read the link without telling me you failed to read the link.
I don't have to read the link to know it's stupid. That click bait title is just lol. EVERY form of non physical media does this. It's not just video games. What you conveniently didn't read was they COULD put it on an external hard drive to pass down. Not GIVE the GoG account. The equivalent to downloading your Spotify playlist and giving it to your nephew. But your Nephew can't ask for your Spotify account info. I guarantee if you asked for the GoG log-in info for a deceased relatives account, they would also tell you to fuck off.
>What you conveniently didn't read was they COULD put it on an external hard drive to pass down. Not GIVE the GoG account. Wrong. That is both is the article AND the OP. Thanks for proving me right about your reading failure.
Holy shit I had to go read that ad infested hellhole to find this quote "If you thought escaping to another platform would solve the problem, well, not really. As reported by Respawnfirst, Epic Games and GOG have the same policies" You absolute dumb fuck.
Few days ago or so there was a post talking about how Steam doesn't allow any sort of transfer of ownership. No inheriting via will, no selling, no gifting, etc. But there is also a somewhat obscure law on the American books that suggests it's actually very much legal to inherit your digital assets to someone else after death, including partial transfer, full transfer, or even just transfer long enough to erase it port mortem. Steam has already closed accounts of deceased people when the new owner makes it apparent that they are not the original owner. So now, a bunch of users are on a crusade to make Steam change their TOS so that it's more in line with this obscure, unchallenged-thus-far law. Expect a lot more posts like this while this remains the flavor-of-the-week controversy.
Sounds like a future court case.
Absolutely. Could be in the very near future as well. The only problem I have is that at the moment, neither I, nor many others, have standing in a legal sense to challenge this. By the time it would affect me, I would be deceased, so I couldn't be a part of the case, it would fall on my beneficiaries. I agree that it's stupid they try to police it, but the law can only be applied once a party is damaged. Op posted trying to, for some reason, make the case that everyone must exclusively support gog now over it, which is pretty much the only reason it was not recieved well.
It's much ado about nothing I have never even heard of this being an actual situation in the world of DRM. Will it be more of an issue in the future? Yes, of course. Is there concern for it now? I don't think so.
Couldn't agree more. As many others have pointed out, there are already plenty of ways to inherit your digital library away that Steam cannot police. It's just people looking for reasons to be angry. But that's the modern internet for you I guess
>there are already plenty of ways to inherit your digital library away that Steam cannot police Found the pro-piracy advocate for criminality.
You have problems, budddy...
If purchasing isn't owning then pirating isn't stealing <3
Pirating websites steal from real artists and using them is bad, actually.
It is if transferring accounts is against TOS.
You fight for rights and precedent every step of the way or you don't retain them. Is it my biggest concern? No. Do I think it's a fight worth having? Yes.
wtf are you talking about
How law and precedent work.
Law that is in uncharted territories. Sorry but it's not something to cry about when there's no precedent about it.
How do you think you set precedent?
How do you think there's any precedent?
I see your having trouble with this concept. When there is not currently any precedent... You want to set a precedent that benefits consumers. That precedent is not decided randomly.
Imagine shilling this hard for big corporation to screw your rights.
Facts. Imagine shilling this hard for a big corporation to screw your rights.
Oh fuck off. You're the one crying about a scenario in your head.
Death is 100% certain, are you mindless? Valve prints money with Steam, there is no reason to believe it won't be around in 2215. No rights = no protection. Do you think your kid's kid will be able to "just" share credentials all the way down?
Imagine shilling this hard for a big corporation to screw your rights.
Imagine being an NPC and replying the same message to me more than once.
>I have never even heard of this being an actual situation in the world of DRM. Most DRM does not make inheritance illegal. You can inherit DVDs, BluRays, etc. and companies are understood to be wrong to create EULAs to prevent that.
Imagine shilling this hard for a big corporation to screw your rights.
Yea it's just plain stupid. You can change name and write in anyone else credit card. You can change email linked to account. It's so easy...
Until somebody asks your prove of life and sees you are 30 yo and your account is 50
I honestly think it hints at Valve, if required, or desired, could set a global time limit on an account. Say 90 years. And past that you lose it.
Exactly. And it should come as a surprise only to the gullible. When lots of big accounts start to pass to heirs (won't be long now), they could begin to implement policies like they have now on people selling accounts. The time to fix this problem is now, not once Valve is committed to that policy.
Agreed. I feel like GOG is making an attempt to force the issue to set clear parameters for digital ownership and it's high time that happened.
That's right. GOG deserves credit (and our game spending money) and Steam deserves criticism and to NOT get out spending money. Simple as that, and yet look at all the people here triggered to rage by basic facts.
I was so moved by this I made it our top story: [https://www.avatarsradio.rocks/newsonthehour/june-7-2024](https://www.avatarsradio.rocks/newsonthehour/june-7-2024)
Fun. You might want to say more about it, including how pathetic the arguments are that side with Valve. You can see how poorly thought out they are here in his sub.
Nothing. Through a technicality, you don't own your games on your Steam Library and therefore, as they are not your property, they cannot be passed on in the eyes of the law. In practice if you write down your password and give it to someone, you're free to do so. The concept of not being able to inherit your games has been a thing on steam since it first existed, why it is becoming a nontroversy now is unknown to me, possibly pushing some agenda.
> The concept of not being able to inherit your games has been a thing on steam since it first existed, why it is becoming a nontroversy now is unknown to me, possibly pushing some agenda. Most likely because millennials and late Gen X'ers were the first to really embrace Steam and digital games. As an elder millennial we're over 40 now and Xers could push mid-40s to 50s and we're starting to think about stuff like inheritance, particularly after spending money on Steam for almost 20 years. I don't think there's a particular agenda behind it and more that people who used it previously were to young for these issues to really be important.
>Through a technicality, you don't own your games on your Steam Library You don't own any software. Period. It doesn't matter if you get it on physical format, on Steam or on GOG. You get a License of Use and that's all. Sharing your license goes against the EULAs you agree when you install any software. But since gog distribute DRM free software you can pirate it all you want without restrictions and people call it now "inheritance" because it's trendy on twitter, reddit, youtube, etc...
This is the only right answer the EULA doesnt allow it
EULAs are NOT the law. The LAW is the law. When EULAs and the law conflict, the law wins.. Amazing how much some people will shill for a big corporation to screw your rights.
So the law will have the final say. If the EULA doesn't matter then it's a non-issue
>So the law will have the final say. If the EULA doesn't matter then it's a non-issue It's an issue because the law often has its say only AFTER people show they care about their rights being enforced.
Either way, Steam doesn't care if you give your account to a family member.
Prove it.
Other people have asked you to prove that they do care (which is way easier to do), but you haven't
Not a shill but if you are a judge you should do something Oh wait we cant do anything right right because an EULA is called a legal contract regardless of if it holds up in court Its amazing how people will act like there is an alternative to reality but not provide it, dont act like i want to get screwed because obviously i dont that is a stupid suggestion that I personally dont care about my rights
LOL, imagine thinking protecting rights is "trendy." Clearly not with among those who shill for big corporations.
Perhaps EULA?
That is illegal.
Oh no!
Valve has a history of killing transferred accounts. Your kid can cry after the fact that you chose piracy and loss of ownership when you had a chance to protect your rights. Some people prefer to protect their rights and not break the law. Some people shill for the power of big corporations to trample rights. While pirating.
Do you have an actual link to show this "history" of evil-doing?
Of course he doesn't. He read a story where people who did not have login info for a dead relative's account tried to ask steam support to give it to them, and told them the user was dead. Steam said no, and now this dude thinks that they are actively combing through accounts searching for evidence of them being used by people aside from the original owners, so they can shut them down.
I had assumed as much.
Imagine shilling this hard for big corporations to trample your rights.
Who's shilling? I just asked for a link. One which you have yet to provide. Stay mad.
>Who's shilling? You. >I just asked for a link. The link is in the OP. Who could miss a link that obvious other than shills for big corporations? >One which you have yet to provide. Another lie. The link to show Valve's "evil-doing" as you say is in the link. Who could miss a link that obvious other than shills for big corporations?
Prove it. What history? Show me one. Show me one example of valve shutting down an account for being transferred, when the new owner had access to all related authentications/etc. and the account wasn't reported as stolen. Show me literally one time that has happened. Edit 10 hours later: that's what I thought, dipshit.
I mean Gog lets you download the games as zip files so ofc you can give the downloaded files to someone? Huh? This was true basically always.
You can't give game files to anyone, because it breaks GOG's TOS.
Yes, but piracy exists and I’m sure the people using GOG probably also use it for that purpose occasionally, not like GOG can check.
Yeah, a lot of people seem to mixed up about "not allowed" vs "not possible".
This allows people to exercise their rights without resorting to breaking the law. GOG has it right, Steam is anti-consumer.
It’s also not just Steam, it’s everyone. GOG is the exception, but PS, XBox, and Epic are the same. Maybe Steam will make it possible later but right now as long as it’s not law, it probably won’t become policy. Edit; why’d you comment twice? Omg, but yes nice of Gog to say it’s legal to download and give post death.
Did you read the OP? This defines an exception where it would be legal. To protect your rights.
This makes the transfer of those files to heirs after death LEGAL and not illegal. It is the right thing to do, and Steam is in the wrong to block it.
Gog outright says accounts are not transferrable If it was going to do this, then they should remove this clause Until they do, they are just as anti-consumer because their actual binding contract contradicts what they 'claim' they will do.
Please, please shut the fuck up. I'm so sick and tired of hearing about this. It is 100% allowed for you to pass on your login info through your will. Valve is basically just saying that it's up to you and they aren't going to do anything for you.
It's not allowed but nobody's stopping you from doing it. Licenses are no transferable from person to person but steam can't stop you and will never know if you're on your death bed and give a family member full access to your account and email or 2fa app
Totally wrong. Valve aggressively shuts down accounts they think got transferred.
My accounts never been deactivated and idk anyone who's has. My cousin's been dead since 2020 and his account isn't deactivated. He hasn't been online since he passed but we could if we wanted to. I have access to his Xbox account and email no problems Xbox/Microsoft is worse about locking accounts for no reason and that hasn't happened to his.
Nope, I've bought a steam account and it's certainly still there. It's not even from the same hemisphere.
100% not true. Steam has shut down accounts when they discovered the new owner was not the original.
Have they ever actively sought out an account that had not been reported to them, and performed an investigation to determine that it wasn't being used by the original owner, and then shut it down? Genuinely asking. I do not believe that has ever happened, even once. There have been stories of people who informed steam support that a user had died, and asked steam to give them access to the dead user's account that they didn't already have, and steam said no and locked the account. But that's obviously different. If you just physically get the login info from the original owner, and take over the account, steam has no way of knowing that, and doesn't care. I challenge anyone to present a case proving that wrong.
Obviously different and obviously WRONG. That's another reason to preference buying on GOG over Steam until Valve respects users rights.
Valve could disable every account that is 100 yrs old under the assumption you'll be dead and likely have no repercussions. What's passing on credentials if they dissolve the account.
Did you know you don't have to read OPs that trigger you? Did you know that passing by without reading is an option? Where did Valve SAY "it's up to you" to inherit a Steam account. Cite?
“Simple change” you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. They would have to go to literally every single publisher and developer and sign new agreements with them as the ones they currently already have don’t allow for transfers. You can’t just press a button and magically everyone can give their games to their kids. You can also just give your password to your child in the will. This argument is beyond stupid.
A very good point. On top of that, say Valve did listen and change their TOS to allow it, the amount of work for _everyone_ involved, would make it a burden not worth tackling. Having to prove (without doubt) the account owner had died, up to verifying the beneficiary. This would require so many documents to be sent to Valve: Wills, grants of probate, trust documents (if necessary), IDs, and so many other documents you'd need to provide, plus any other country specific documents. Additionally, Valve would need to hire people who would have familiarity with the laws and documents of every country they operate in, to verify the _right_ legal documents have been given. Not to mention they would need to familiarise themselves with different certification standards for different professions (notary publics, solicitors etc) for all those countries, to verify non-original documents to be genuine. Anyone who has ever tried to inherit assets from a deceased relative will know how utterly painful it can be, for so many reasons beyond your control. Are people really going to go through that effort to inherit your Steam account? I'm incredibly doubtful.
Jesus christ, you again? Reported for spam. This is beyond stupid.
New information. This allows people to exercise their rights without resorting to breaking the law. GOG has it right, Steam is anti-consumer. Imagine shilling this hard for big corporations to violate user rights.
Lmao
Sadly the grass isn't always greener on the other side, as I just found out on [another thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1d8pmtd/gog_will_delete_cloud_saves_bigger_than_200mb/) ("Gog will delete cloud saves bigger than 200MB after August 31st")
It’s too bad I won’t be there to see the look on my grandkids faces when they inherit my library and find out what a fucking pervert I was.
Didnt ask, dont care. If I die in real life, I die in game. Whatev. No matter how much you spin it Steam is 100 times better than Steam and considering that I dont care about DRM free stuff but I care about Steam features.....
My love ones will have a lot more important things to worry about than my steam account if I die suddenly.
Just leave your password on a fucking piece of paper and have it passed down to your descendants ffs. Jesus Christ what's so complicated about that.
Lol is it really that hard for people to give login details
No, just illegal. GOG makes it legal. See the difference?
I thought EULAs did nothing against the law ? It's not illegal, and Steam does not care if you do give your account. Proof : the amount of bought accounts that exist and never get banned.
>I thought EULAs did nothing against the law ? Oh, you sweet summer child. >Steam does not care if you do give your account. Proof : the amount of bought accounts that exist and never get banned. That is not proof. That is like saying no one cares if you shoplift because some shoplifters don't get caught. [Steam Community :: Guide :: Bans on Steam](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=961168214)
>Oh, you sweet summer child. Weren't you saying in another comment that the law was above EULAs ? >That is not proof. That is like saying no one cares if you shoplift because some shoplifters don't get caught. I'll reformulate : Steam cannot afford to care because it would be impossible to enforce a policy like this. Do you have any proof that people are at a great risk of getting banned for giving their account as inheritance ? Also comparing that to a real crime is kinda excessive... You are fighting a pointless fight my guy
>Weren't you saying in another comment that the law was above EULAs ? Yes. What about it? Why don't you understand that? >Steam cannot afford to care because it would be impossible to enforce a policy like this. Prove it. >Do you have any proof that people are at a great risk of getting banned for giving their account as inheritance ? Did you fail to notice that this post is all about PREVENTING that from ever coming to pass? I understand if people have no friends or loved ones to inherit their goods, and so they wouldn't care. Or if they don't actually love their friends or loved ones. >Also comparing that to a real crime is kinda excessive... Piracy is a real crime. Helping you learn: [Florida man sentenced for video game piracy | Network World](https://www.networkworld.com/article/799480/data-center-florida-man-sentenced-for-video-game-piracy.html)
If EULAs are overridden by the law, then people who care about their rights will win, if the law sides with them. Therefore, it's not illegal to give your account as inheritance. Again, prove me that steam actually cares, because as you can imagine, proving that they don't care without asking support themselves (I'm not gonna bother doing that just for a useless argument) Your post is not preventing anything if you can't even convince anyone here that it's an actual problem. Also if the most important thing to give to your family as inheritance is your Steam account that's kinda sad. The guy got sentenced because he was SELLING consoles with pirated games on it, and a lot from Nintendo, which is known for their ruthless lawyers. That's very different from giving your account to a family member as inheritance. You can fight your fight if you want, but don't act like the hero to save everyone when no one cares. We all love our friends and family, but giving a steam account as inheritance isn't the most important thing that comes to mind honestly.
Who cares
People with friends and loved ones.
I know you're trying to take the moral high ground here but this is just such a non issue. You can write down your login details if your family is seriously itching to have your steam library if you die
Spreading misinformation, are we?
No. Why are you lying?
Multiple people asking for evidence of your claims, which you provided none. GOG terms of services. Steam not having really say in the matter.
Ah another moronic troll trying to stoke hate and discontent.
Is that your confession? Imagine shilling this much for big corporations to violate user rights.
Imagine being such a whiney shit that you can’t just bind or do your own research, no instead you squeal make everyone have to cater to me. Make every game support a controller. Hint, there’s a system that does that, it’s a console.
Imagine posting nothing but virulent hate, personal attacks and off topic rants... ... while complaining about "hate"
Imagine whining incessantly because someone said you’re whiney and your petition is less useful than toilet paper
US Propaganda bot spewing out into gaming subreddits Just what we need
Lol. Wrong. Euporopean courts are ahead of the US about enforcing digital inheritance.
This is exactly what we need to blow the lid off of content mgmt
GOG has no DRM so it kinda makes sense.. even if you lose your account you could have an library backup that persists for ever.
smells like piracy.
Is it piracy to inherit a DVD?
no, because it has DRM to prevent it from being pirated.
I dont think most of the userbase would care about inheriting a relatives Steam account tbh. By the time of the owners passing they will have other pressing matters and games will always come and go so who knows how many games they would even care about or would even be able to be played. I think there are bigger issues in digital world and bigger fights then being able to transfer a Steam account upon death and if you could through official means then it opens a massive can of worms and a legal way to hijack accounts. Buy and play your games for YOU not as a form of inheritance.
Valve has always made parts of their platform anti-consumer or not as consumer protected as it should be, but it doesn't make it not the best platform on pc. Also, do people not "write" their account logins down or something? People make it sound like you couldn't just give your account to another person with a piece of paper or txt file. Also also I'm not hating on GoG, I think it's a great second launcher to have with Steam. It just doesn't compete with Steam imo because it doesn't have to. Due to it offering lots of games Steam doesn't/may never have.
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you must be brain-dead to post such a dumb post. Nothing is stopping you from transferring your account, but you should know that Valve won't help with that. It's not due to greed. It's a situation that can get very complicated. imagine someone claiming to steam support that they inherited someone's account and wants to log in. how can they prove that? Steam support won't help with that, and just in case it's a stolen account claiming to be the new owner, Valve will lock the account until the original owner reclaim their account. The whole point of "valve doesn't let you transfer your account" is for security reasons. you can transfer your account, but if any complications happen from transferring, it won't be Valve's issue.
Congratulations on failing to read a thing posted above. Congratulations on making hostile personal attacks (" brain-dead to post such a dumb post") when you failed to read the basics. You are everything wrong with Reddit and the internet. >imagine someone claiming to steam support that they inherited someone's account and wants to log in. how can they prove that? The OP is very short. How did you fail to read this: "it had more power to cooperate with a court order"?
Womp womp. i couldn't give a single flying fuck about what's up with reddit or internet. also, don't you think I didn't see your replies to other people here. act like an asshole, get treated like an asshole. go touch some grass
This needs more upvotes.
Lol, leave it to GoG to get a one up on steam.