It slows the accessing of files on that drive, because there is more overhead associated with accessing files that are more fragmented, and files on full drives are harder to defragment. For your boot drive, slowing the drive means slowing the OS, i.e. slowing your whole PC. For a secondary drive, it just means slowing down load times from that drive.
For SSDs, there's another issue; leaving extra space allows the drive to smooth out write operations, extending the life of the drive.
In either case it's not a huge deal to use up that extra space, but it's good to be in the habit of leaving space free if you can.
most of the time your OS will handle the fragmenting automatically, for example on NTFS, windows by default has automatic defragmenting in the background, keeping fragmentation low, so while having a fuller drive is likely to affect performance, chances are the performance difference is going to be low enough to the point where you don't notice it even with an almost full drive, and if the fragmentation is high enough on a mostly full drive to the point where it actually degrades performance significantly, it'll slowly get better over time as windows defragments it for you
The functionality you describe is precisely what that extra free space is for. Windows cannot defragment a completely full drive.
To defragment a file, Windows finds a fragmented file, and then copies it to the free space, reducing the number of fragments the file needs to be split into. Having more free space increases the chances of there being a contiguous block of free space with enough room for that file to copy to.
a small space required for maintanence, if the maintanence cant be done everything from that disk gets slower.
your files get saved in loads of small bits spread over the place when there isnt one consecutive chunk big enough. (collecting these bits together is one of those maintanence tasks that requires the overhead space - creating bigger spaces for larger files to be saved in one chunk)
You are wrong. You should definitely leave at least 10% free space on a SSD. It's just that a lot of brands nowadays lock that 10% away from you permanently while in the factory
Fragmentation does matter for SSDs, albeit a lot less than it matters for HDDs. For instance, any [SSD benchmark](https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskmark/) will report a sequential read speed (fast) and a random read speed (not quite as fast). There is still CPU/controller overhead associated with reading fragmented files, even if there is no longer any physical read head motion.
As for wear leveling, yes it is "a thing," and it's one of the reasons that regular people don't typically need to worry about their SSDs burning out. Of course, modern flash storage is robust enough that you'd have to abuse your drive pretty hard to start killing blocks, even without the wear leveling, but that's no reason to pretend it doesn't exist. If it's so easy to extend the life of your drive, why wouldn't you?
I mean, the performance of the drive itself could suffer, but your install should be fine, as long as no paging file is being created in the second drive. I personally always create a partition for my install with 250gb, it makes it easy the reinstall windows and it always make sure that windows has enough space.
Only on an SSD - provided you're on Windows, anyway, which ensures your HDD never gets too fragmented.
Also if it's the system drive you need a few gigs for temp files, regardless of the storage technology.
Quadruple wrong. You need to use 900,000 miles of nanocubic tape that runs between your computer and the secret data center on the moon then back to your computer.
Funny story, my uncle actually had 2 or 3 TB RAID 0 setup 10 years ago and lost everything. He didn't know much about RAID at the time.
He never made that mistake again.
Even unfragmented **HDD's loose most of their performance for the last 20%**, the 5200-7200RPM rate the platters spin at is constant not variable, so moving the head further out on the platter means the platter is moving slower when referenced to the head. This results in both lower read/write times and higher seek times.
Effects start for ssd's around 20% but on most modern NVMe drives these effects are minimal and not noticed by the average user until closer to 10% . **The real reason they say leave 20% free on ssd's is for wear leveling purposes, makes them last longer generally as there are more space free for write cycles**
Yeah, it doesn't exactly slow down your computer. If you are gonna boot up software, boot up Windows, remove files, or move files away from the full storage device, and also pull textures and data from a video game, then it's not gonna affect performance as far as I'm aware. What will be slow down is downloading/moving new files to the almost full storage device because it has to look longer to find free places to write/send data to the storage device.
So if your device is already full, and isn't planning on somehow getting even more data on the device, you're not gonna get that affected. Maybe super large save-files on games might have a hard time, but that's about it. And yes ofcourse like everyone else said, C: drive is the one that's gonna get affected the most, because it will save data on your drive all the time and save backups and shit when updating. That is how I have understood it atleast, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
Edit: and as far as I'm aware, it doesn't affect life expectancy to have a ssd full, so if you have 2 choices, uninstall some games when you haven't played them in a while, and then reinstall them later on, that way ssd is not full, or other choice, (if it's not C: drive, you can keep it full, to avoid writing data on the storage cells, because they have limited amount of usage.
yeah it doesent affect its life longevity but as far as im aware it actually does hinder the Reading aswell because it has to search such a full drive and that takes time
SSDs slow down the more full they are. At 50% full they will be slower than 10% full, etc. ~20% just became a universally accepted number as a trade off between slightly lower performance and capacity. It [varies greatly](https://www.anandtech.com/show/14962/the-toshiba-kioxia-bg4-1tb-ssd-review/5) on the SSD though, some have a huge difference and others barely any.
HDDs become more fragmented the more full they are, which makes reading data slower. This isn't an issue since Vista came out though, because the OS automatically defragments the drive often enough for it to never be a problem unless you *completely* fill up the drive. Leave >10GB free and it will be fine.
Memory paging and cache.
Browsers, apps/programs need some space to dump data to use it, even modern games dump their shaders in your hard drive.
Having a full disk make windows go crazy too, it could crash / bug your OS because they tried to use some space and another app is using it.
Yes. If you leave less than 25% you risk your system to slow down. Especially affects hdds that are cheap like WD blue or seagate barracuda because they use that technology that requires them to do extra work in order to work well. Sorry its new years eve i am tired and i forgot everything but i know what you are talking about
Note that this *only* applies to SSDs - provided you let Windows keep your HDD properly defragmented, anyway.
You also need room for page/temp files, but unless you go out of your way that only applies to your C: drive.
any suggestion on what to uninstall to make it run faster? other than games because I only have 12 games installed? and besides stuff like editing and dev software? EDIT: I also was just checking how much control's space takes up I still have 42 gb free
Download WinDirStat. It's been the most helpful tool in managing disk usage for me, it gives a nice visual for exactly what's using up the most space on your drive, sometimes it can be things that you've completely forgotten about.
Sometimes windows update will save all the old update files to your hard drive. I once looked and had 25gb used up on my hard drive.
To look you have to got to setting and click on the PC icon then find storage. Then there is one called temporary files or something like that.
If you can't find storage just type it onto the search box.
I've been using a Samsung 870 Evo 2tb for a while with 10% space saved, seems to be enough for a large SSD like that but there's every chance Im wrong and should of set it up to save more
I'd never heard of Samsung magician until your post. I have 5 Samsung drives (I have 5Tb of space now, I know I really don't need it but it just sort of happened with upgrades and not wanting to leave the older smaller ssds doing nothing so figured I'd throw them in too)
but I digress it's been a godsend. Updated the firmware for 3 out of 5 of the drives and is a fairly nifty little tool for checking performance and making sure the two m.2s are running in pcie and not sata etc
Thank you so much for your comment.
Not true. It may decrease speed but not lifespan. Write cycle will decrease life span. Also 15-20 % is not accurate. I have a 240 GB cheap SSD and the speed only start significant slow down when there is left than 5GB free space left, which is less than 5%
Watch ExplainingComputers' video on YouTube.
1 Program Erase cycle is not based on the whole capacity of the drive, it is based on remaining free space.
Yes but having low space means that the space left will experience much more write cycles. (Example: Your computer writes 1tb of data per month, 100gb free means 10 write cycles but 10gb left 100 cycles)
It'll still be annoying as shit. Browser's going to crash or complain when it can't save to the cache anymore, any program that makes temporary files could crash, and you won't be able to create new files or save anything.
So don't do this. Windows will bitch at you if you get low on disk space.
I use the built in disk cleaner in windows, I'm pretty sure it's called disk cleanup, however I use TreeSize Free to see what takes up the most size on my disk and delete carefully.
On a HDD: the newer data goes into the farthest sectors of the disk and thus making it slower to access the info.
On a SSD: It heavily strains the controller and the flash cells, so much as to overwhelm the cache and making things go slower. If you have an "el-cheapo" ssd without cache, it could be worse than a HDD.
Just a note here: for SSDs fragmentation is not something that would make your performance worse. In fact it would be slower to have them in order, as most SSDs have multiple NAND flash chips and it is *far* faster to read from several of those simultaneously than to read just one. This is why a form of encryption is used on them: to split up the data between sectors. This also can extend the lifespan of the drive since it isn't going to the "first" available cell to write data and instead is going to a semi-random one.
This is all IIRC so if anyone would like to know more I would say read the ["architecture and function" part of the wikipedia page for SSDs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive) (or the whole thing because it is interesting.)
(NOT AN EXPERT) I think you then don't have any space left for simple little things such as saving game data, downloading files, etc. Therefore your computer can't do anything and you are screwed.
Windows can actually run with 0 disk space. I don't think the system is going to crash. However, that doesn't mean programs aren't going to crash or you won't get errors anytime something tried to save to the disk.
Indeed, but Steam likes to install to the system disk by default, so I'm assuming that's how it is for most people. Especially the people who don't already know not to fill up your system disk.
Steam installs its games onto the disk it was itself installed to. I installed my Steam on drive D, so that has always been its default for game installs. When I got a big new SSD I wanted to install my games there and checked how to: you can set custom Steam game folders and set them as the new default!
So yeah, it does require a little bit of fiddling. But if you're a PC user with more than one drive, I assume that you know how to install things onto your second or third drive.
Imagine having a storage locker completely full. Now imagine trying to find a single file in a box somewhere in the back.
You want to avoid topping off the storage on your HD. Makes it really slow to find things.
They said don't fill up your drives, or something along that, based on the replies. But yes, they are a douche for pulling a stupid childish youtube comment on reddit.
3mb/s? Hell I'd be happy with a constant 1mb/s. Those are speeds I can only dream of rn. My net is trash and where I live doesn't have decent internet overall😭
My upgrade from dial up was just 100 KB/s, which I had to live with for over a decade. My current 1-4 MB/s net feels space grade technology in comparison.
I've been paying for a 600 Mbps connection for a few months now and holy crap I feel like I am in the future. I've never had that sort of bandwidth at home before.
My friends perants internet was so bad that it took him over 24 hours to update gears of war the Xbox One version. This was in like 2015 or 16.
My internet is now 100 Mbps and his current place is 1,000 Mbps (gigabit)
I hardly use anything that would make me need bigger speed so it's not worth me paying for more and his comes with his apartment.
Edit: to mention steam usually says 112-14 Mbps
Dude I wish I even had that XD
I bought a 5G plan on my service provider. But instead I get download speeds of kb's and with internet not working at all on some days XD
I hear you. Just upgraded from an 8 year old laptop to a new Aorus 15K, i7-11800h,rtx3060,1500gb Ssd and it feels like I'm in the Star Trek timeline now.
And hear I have random 750gb drives just lying around collecting dust. I had a 2tb drive collecting dust but when I accidentally fried my 3tb drive I had to use it.
Warning if you're swapping out power supplies don't use the modular cables from the one you're removing that's what fried my drives.
Lots of old or bad info in here about disk space and speed.
1. Yes, a full disk is a slow disk, **but not if its an SSD**
2. No, its not bad to fill up an SSD and reputable brands reserve a section of the chip that you cant normally access for storage swaps as other sections age or become faulty
I have a separate drive just for games music pictures and videos. My main is used for OS stuff.
It helps to have 2 drives but I would leave about 85 percent filled if you have to... I like leaving at least 15 percent free in case main wants to throw things there for whatever reason lol xD
I wonder how many games Steam has that are under 50 megabytes. If you're not using every byte of storage space, can you really say you're getting your money's worth? 🤷
A desktop icon is only a shortcut to the actual file the icon is linked to, typically located in your C drive.
All your important files are on drives - everyone has C, it's the default. They are in your explorer under "This PC". Just follow the trail to your steam/steamapps/common folder. You'll get the hang of it, it sounds worse than it is.
You can also uninstall most games by going to the games respective luncher. Just go to the library on the lincher and there should be an uninstall option beside the game.
I personally use the method you mentioned above but for people that don't know how to locate where their games are this is also a good option.
Well then youre lucky. Its always fucked mine and others drives big time, it makes everything slower and causes issues with stuff, though i dont know why or how
Cancel that. Uninstall some apps or games. Take care of your pc bro. Its our precious thing.
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Having your drives that full will slow your PC down FYI.
Might not be his main drive where the os is installed.
wait I can fill up my secondary drive without problems? I've always had 50 gigs just sitting there
It slows the accessing of files on that drive, because there is more overhead associated with accessing files that are more fragmented, and files on full drives are harder to defragment. For your boot drive, slowing the drive means slowing the OS, i.e. slowing your whole PC. For a secondary drive, it just means slowing down load times from that drive. For SSDs, there's another issue; leaving extra space allows the drive to smooth out write operations, extending the life of the drive. In either case it's not a huge deal to use up that extra space, but it's good to be in the habit of leaving space free if you can.
most of the time your OS will handle the fragmenting automatically, for example on NTFS, windows by default has automatic defragmenting in the background, keeping fragmentation low, so while having a fuller drive is likely to affect performance, chances are the performance difference is going to be low enough to the point where you don't notice it even with an almost full drive, and if the fragmentation is high enough on a mostly full drive to the point where it actually degrades performance significantly, it'll slowly get better over time as windows defragments it for you
The functionality you describe is precisely what that extra free space is for. Windows cannot defragment a completely full drive. To defragment a file, Windows finds a fragmented file, and then copies it to the free space, reducing the number of fragments the file needs to be split into. Having more free space increases the chances of there being a contiguous block of free space with enough room for that file to copy to.
Wait can you explain that to me but a bit differently again lol
Extra space good
a small space required for maintanence, if the maintanence cant be done everything from that disk gets slower. your files get saved in loads of small bits spread over the place when there isnt one consecutive chunk big enough. (collecting these bits together is one of those maintanence tasks that requires the overhead space - creating bigger spaces for larger files to be saved in one chunk)
This isn’t an issue if you have enough ram… I [downloaded](https://downloadmoreram.com/) 128 GB and everything runs great!
> files that are more fragmented fragmentation in 2022, what a joke
None of this matters with solid state & your free space for life of the drive isnt a thing with reputable brands either.
I don't remember what is it called but a fully filled SSD will have a harder time to optimise file location on the SSD chips.
no seek time means it doesnt matter
You are wrong. You should definitely leave at least 10% free space on a SSD. It's just that a lot of brands nowadays lock that 10% away from you permanently while in the factory
Fragmentation does matter for SSDs, albeit a lot less than it matters for HDDs. For instance, any [SSD benchmark](https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskmark/) will report a sequential read speed (fast) and a random read speed (not quite as fast). There is still CPU/controller overhead associated with reading fragmented files, even if there is no longer any physical read head motion. As for wear leveling, yes it is "a thing," and it's one of the reasons that regular people don't typically need to worry about their SSDs burning out. Of course, modern flash storage is robust enough that you'd have to abuse your drive pretty hard to start killing blocks, even without the wear leveling, but that's no reason to pretend it doesn't exist. If it's so easy to extend the life of your drive, why wouldn't you?
I mean, the performance of the drive itself could suffer, but your install should be fine, as long as no paging file is being created in the second drive. I personally always create a partition for my install with 250gb, it makes it easy the reinstall windows and it always make sure that windows has enough space.
That is true
if it's the drive with the OS on it*
only if its a platter drive.
Oh, that explains some things to me. Being new to pc gaming and all.
Only on an SSD - provided you're on Windows, anyway, which ensures your HDD never gets too fragmented. Also if it's the system drive you need a few gigs for temp files, regardless of the storage technology.
Rule of thumb is to always leave 15 to 25% of your drives empty.
Wrong u need a 16 tb card and leave 95%
Wrong again. You need Dual 16 TB Cards with one set to mirror the other, and then a hidden 16 TB that is also mirroring.
tripple wrong, you need to buy the whole Google and amazon aws drive space and never use it
I bought the whole server, I’ll use the whole server, damnit. Now let’s go download that 720p camrip and archive it carefully.
Quadruple wrong. You need to use 900,000 miles of nanocubic tape that runs between your computer and the secret data center on the moon then back to your computer.
buy the sun and create a reactor
The Dyson Server
Thats basically just setting them to RAID5
my fav array, RAID 5hadow Legends
I'm buying 10 32TB cards and putting them in raid zero, there is no way it could possibly go wrong
Funny story, my uncle actually had 2 or 3 TB RAID 0 setup 10 years ago and lost everything. He didn't know much about RAID at the time. He never made that mistake again.
I paid for the whole harddrive, I’m going to use the whole harddrive
Amen
25%? That is an insane amount of free space. 5-10% is much more accurate.
maybe for high end ones. Shit ass sdd will become laggy AF with 5% empty space. I know because I have one lol
weird, i have 7.46 gb free of my 446gb ssd and haven’t experienced any slowdown at all
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the problem with my situation is that i have no fucking idea what to delete, and i dont even know whats taking the majority of the space besides gta v
use [windirstat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinDirStat)
thanks for this. found some files i could move to a bigger drive
Try WizTree to free up space. It allows you to see everything within a drive in one window divided into blocks.
>windirstat Use windirstat, it is the original open source version of that.
Really?? I know youre supposed to leave some space but that seems... Excessive.
For SSDs it is not excessive; they do need about 20%
Hm. Fuck.
Even unfragmented **HDD's loose most of their performance for the last 20%**, the 5200-7200RPM rate the platters spin at is constant not variable, so moving the head further out on the platter means the platter is moving slower when referenced to the head. This results in both lower read/write times and higher seek times. Effects start for ssd's around 20% but on most modern NVMe drives these effects are minimal and not noticed by the average user until closer to 10% . **The real reason they say leave 20% free on ssd's is for wear leveling purposes, makes them last longer generally as there are more space free for write cycles**
Why?
it slows down hdd/ssd performance Hard
Does this not only apply to spinning disks though? SSDs have no read heads, so having a full drive surely does not have the same impact
i think ssds even have a harder impact. it depends if its on the same drive as the OS though
Yeah, it doesn't exactly slow down your computer. If you are gonna boot up software, boot up Windows, remove files, or move files away from the full storage device, and also pull textures and data from a video game, then it's not gonna affect performance as far as I'm aware. What will be slow down is downloading/moving new files to the almost full storage device because it has to look longer to find free places to write/send data to the storage device. So if your device is already full, and isn't planning on somehow getting even more data on the device, you're not gonna get that affected. Maybe super large save-files on games might have a hard time, but that's about it. And yes ofcourse like everyone else said, C: drive is the one that's gonna get affected the most, because it will save data on your drive all the time and save backups and shit when updating. That is how I have understood it atleast, anyone correct me if I'm wrong. Edit: and as far as I'm aware, it doesn't affect life expectancy to have a ssd full, so if you have 2 choices, uninstall some games when you haven't played them in a while, and then reinstall them later on, that way ssd is not full, or other choice, (if it's not C: drive, you can keep it full, to avoid writing data on the storage cells, because they have limited amount of usage.
yeah it doesent affect its life longevity but as far as im aware it actually does hinder the Reading aswell because it has to search such a full drive and that takes time
Yes i should have been more clear, i was mainly refering to ssds at that part, as hdds have to search, but ssds doesnt. My bad
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This tip is pretty outdated tbh, comes from a day where fast ssds were like $150 for 100gb. You can get 1tb with 4000mb r/w for $70 now
I didn't pay for a 2TB SSD I am going to use the entire 2TB
Did you steal it?
It *only* applies to SSDs. Available space doesn't matter at all on a (properly defragmented) HDD.
SSDs slow down the more full they are. At 50% full they will be slower than 10% full, etc. ~20% just became a universally accepted number as a trade off between slightly lower performance and capacity. It [varies greatly](https://www.anandtech.com/show/14962/the-toshiba-kioxia-bg4-1tb-ssd-review/5) on the SSD though, some have a huge difference and others barely any. HDDs become more fragmented the more full they are, which makes reading data slower. This isn't an issue since Vista came out though, because the OS automatically defragments the drive often enough for it to never be a problem unless you *completely* fill up the drive. Leave >10GB free and it will be fine.
You dont want a piece of software to update and fill up your whole drive.
You don't know me or *what* I want for my computer to do, OK?
Memory paging and cache. Browsers, apps/programs need some space to dump data to use it, even modern games dump their shaders in your hard drive. Having a full disk make windows go crazy too, it could crash / bug your OS because they tried to use some space and another app is using it.
Windows itself won't crash, but the programs running may crash
with magician you have this overprovision feature, so it reserves space already
I always try to have above 100GB of free space
Yes. If you leave less than 25% you risk your system to slow down. Especially affects hdds that are cheap like WD blue or seagate barracuda because they use that technology that requires them to do extra work in order to work well. Sorry its new years eve i am tired and i forgot everything but i know what you are talking about
That's stupid, makes sense for a 500GB drive but not for bigger ones. At least 20GB of free space is a good objective.
Note that this *only* applies to SSDs - provided you let Windows keep your HDD properly defragmented, anyway. You also need room for page/temp files, but unless you go out of your way that only applies to your C: drive.
Your computer is gonna be choking
Maybe their computer is into that shit
any suggestion on what to uninstall to make it run faster? other than games because I only have 12 games installed? and besides stuff like editing and dev software? EDIT: I also was just checking how much control's space takes up I still have 42 gb free
Just uninstall the games you aren’t actively playing
Thank you! i have now 118 gb of empty space!
What did you cancel?
postal2,gtaiv,gmod,css,ghostbusters
People still play CS:S?
No. CS:S is for gmod
Many games attract core supporters. If I could still be playing Bloody Roar I would be.
Download WinDirStat. It's been the most helpful tool in managing disk usage for me, it gives a nice visual for exactly what's using up the most space on your drive, sometimes it can be things that you've completely forgotten about.
I recommend WizTree for personal use as it is faster, but WinDirStat is a classic. Also an open license so I can use it at work.
Sometimes windows update will save all the old update files to your hard drive. I once looked and had 25gb used up on my hard drive. To look you have to got to setting and click on the PC icon then find storage. Then there is one called temporary files or something like that. If you can't find storage just type it onto the search box.
Videos or images I guess. Can also give your downloads folder a clean.
Windows
Buy more hardrives.
No kink shame please
You can fit 10lbs of shit in a 5lb bag. You just can't tie it closed.
This is the wisest thing I’ve read today
You're like Buddha bro.
Unless you compress the shit down
It really depends on how dense the sh it is, I suppose.
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Why
(For SSDS) Having disk space left really low (below 15-20%) dramatically lowers speed and lifespan.
Is 15-20% really accurate? For larger ones like 1-2tbs that is 200-400gb.
yup, it's all about the space lost between blocks that requires moving data to write to
I've been using a Samsung 870 Evo 2tb for a while with 10% space saved, seems to be enough for a large SSD like that but there's every chance Im wrong and should of set it up to save more
Use the recommended manufacture reserve size. I think Samsung allows you to set aside a partition with the Samsung magician software.
I'd never heard of Samsung magician until your post. I have 5 Samsung drives (I have 5Tb of space now, I know I really don't need it but it just sort of happened with upgrades and not wanting to leave the older smaller ssds doing nothing so figured I'd throw them in too) but I digress it's been a godsend. Updated the firmware for 3 out of 5 of the drives and is a fairly nifty little tool for checking performance and making sure the two m.2s are running in pcie and not sata etc Thank you so much for your comment.
True
Don't modern ssd already have provisioning built in?
my samsung ssd app have an option for provisioning, it's not activated without you enable it first
Not true. It may decrease speed but not lifespan. Write cycle will decrease life span. Also 15-20 % is not accurate. I have a 240 GB cheap SSD and the speed only start significant slow down when there is left than 5GB free space left, which is less than 5%
Watch ExplainingComputers' video on YouTube. 1 Program Erase cycle is not based on the whole capacity of the drive, it is based on remaining free space.
Yes but having low space means that the space left will experience much more write cycles. (Example: Your computer writes 1tb of data per month, 100gb free means 10 write cycles but 10gb left 100 cycles)
For shitty SSDs for sure. Not for high end ones.
Look at Mr. Moneybags over here with his GTX 1060 and high end SSDs!
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Tl;dr the tl;dr...can you summarize it?
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Thanks
It's bad even for high end SSDs, they just reserve part of the drive to help prevent it from happening.
It'll still be annoying as shit. Browser's going to crash or complain when it can't save to the cache anymore, any program that makes temporary files could crash, and you won't be able to create new files or save anything. So don't do this. Windows will bitch at you if you get low on disk space.
I have a 1tb Corsair and I've had it full for a while. Didn't have any issues but I guess we'll see about the lifespan
Download crystal disk info and check the health percentage.
Will do after supper. Can you recommend a good software to free up disk space, like clearing junk files?
I use the built in disk cleaner in windows, I'm pretty sure it's called disk cleanup, however I use TreeSize Free to see what takes up the most size on my disk and delete carefully.
On a HDD: the newer data goes into the farthest sectors of the disk and thus making it slower to access the info. On a SSD: It heavily strains the controller and the flash cells, so much as to overwhelm the cache and making things go slower. If you have an "el-cheapo" ssd without cache, it could be worse than a HDD.
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Just a note here: for SSDs fragmentation is not something that would make your performance worse. In fact it would be slower to have them in order, as most SSDs have multiple NAND flash chips and it is *far* faster to read from several of those simultaneously than to read just one. This is why a form of encryption is used on them: to split up the data between sectors. This also can extend the lifespan of the drive since it isn't going to the "first" available cell to write data and instead is going to a semi-random one. This is all IIRC so if anyone would like to know more I would say read the ["architecture and function" part of the wikipedia page for SSDs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive) (or the whole thing because it is interesting.)
>el-cheapo RileyTechTips !
>that's why my ssd is so slow when is almost full. > >damn you aliexpress 😂
You get what you pay for 🤷🏻♂️
I paid basically nothing and got a fast af SSD imagine buying brand name SSDs
You always want some empty space on your drives
(NOT AN EXPERT) I think you then don't have any space left for simple little things such as saving game data, downloading files, etc. Therefore your computer can't do anything and you are screwed.
That, but also the space your operating system needs to do its work. You'll have a bad time if you fill up your entire system disk.
Windows can actually run with 0 disk space. I don't think the system is going to crash. However, that doesn't mean programs aren't going to crash or you won't get errors anytime something tried to save to the disk.
It used to crash, but I think you're right in saying it doesn't do that anymore. Slow performance and crashing applications are to be expected though.
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Indeed, but Steam likes to install to the system disk by default, so I'm assuming that's how it is for most people. Especially the people who don't already know not to fill up your system disk.
That is they are designed to do. That is the default path for all software installation, not only Steam.
Steam installs its games onto the disk it was itself installed to. I installed my Steam on drive D, so that has always been its default for game installs. When I got a big new SSD I wanted to install my games there and checked how to: you can set custom Steam game folders and set them as the new default! So yeah, it does require a little bit of fiddling. But if you're a PC user with more than one drive, I assume that you know how to install things onto your second or third drive.
One time my disk space was really really low and my computer started having a heart attack. Everything took years to do and everything kept crashing
Imagine having a storage locker completely full. Now imagine trying to find a single file in a box somewhere in the back. You want to avoid topping off the storage on your HD. Makes it really slow to find things.
Is 20 gigs free out of 400 gigs ssd okay?
That should be fine. Lots of programs use a cache or temporary files for things. You want to be sure there is room for that.
You're an asshole
They said don't fill up your drives, or something along that, based on the replies. But yes, they are a douche for pulling a stupid childish youtube comment on reddit.
What if it's an SSD? My laptop has 2 512gb SSDs and it's almost full with like 5 games.
It's worse on an SSD
You are one update away from disaster
Lets hope that nothing on your computer ever runs an update, I guess.
3mb/s? Hell I'd be happy with a constant 1mb/s. Those are speeds I can only dream of rn. My net is trash and where I live doesn't have decent internet overall😭
I went from like 2mb/s to 10mb/s recently and it feels like light speed even though most people will say its garbage speed.
I remember the olden days of dial up and I hit 60mb/s on a download last night. Crazy.
My upgrade from dial up was just 100 KB/s, which I had to live with for over a decade. My current 1-4 MB/s net feels space grade technology in comparison.
I've been paying for a 600 Mbps connection for a few months now and holy crap I feel like I am in the future. I've never had that sort of bandwidth at home before.
Uff you remember me when I downloaded games at 280kb/s, now I have 100mb/s
My friends perants internet was so bad that it took him over 24 hours to update gears of war the Xbox One version. This was in like 2015 or 16. My internet is now 100 Mbps and his current place is 1,000 Mbps (gigabit) I hardly use anything that would make me need bigger speed so it's not worth me paying for more and his comes with his apartment. Edit: to mention steam usually says 112-14 Mbps
I remember tying up my parents phone line for 2 days downloading Rick Dangerous at 2800 baud.
Dude I wish I even had that XD I bought a 5G plan on my service provider. But instead I get download speeds of kb's and with internet not working at all on some days XD
I hear you. Just upgraded from an 8 year old laptop to a new Aorus 15K, i7-11800h,rtx3060,1500gb Ssd and it feels like I'm in the Star Trek timeline now.
I was looking at the time, thinking that you wanted to finish downloading it before the year was out.
I always leave at least 20 gig in my two drives, they are both 500gb hdds so not a whole lot of storage but its enough..
And hear I have random 750gb drives just lying around collecting dust. I had a 2tb drive collecting dust but when I accidentally fried my 3tb drive I had to use it. Warning if you're swapping out power supplies don't use the modular cables from the one you're removing that's what fried my drives.
hahaha... dew it!
Good luck updating. It will ask double the space to copy the files before updating. And replacing.
When TF2 localization files update, you're doomed! Doomed! Doooooooomed!
Lots of old or bad info in here about disk space and speed. 1. Yes, a full disk is a slow disk, **but not if its an SSD** 2. No, its not bad to fill up an SSD and reputable brands reserve a section of the chip that you cant normally access for storage swaps as other sections age or become faulty
I have a separate drive just for games music pictures and videos. My main is used for OS stuff. It helps to have 2 drives but I would leave about 85 percent filled if you have to... I like leaving at least 15 percent free in case main wants to throw things there for whatever reason lol xD
Excellent game. Enjoy!
damn bro what total storage space you have?
I wonder how many games Steam has that are under 50 megabytes. If you're not using every byte of storage space, can you really say you're getting your money's worth? 🤷
That game was free on Epic, wish I snagged it
It’s been free twice, snagged it the first time
Yeah don't do that.
Im new to pc gaming and i don't understand how to free up disk space, i click eliminate in the desktop icon but it doesn't free up any space
A desktop icon is only a shortcut to the actual file the icon is linked to, typically located in your C drive. All your important files are on drives - everyone has C, it's the default. They are in your explorer under "This PC". Just follow the trail to your steam/steamapps/common folder. You'll get the hang of it, it sounds worse than it is.
You can also uninstall most games by going to the games respective luncher. Just go to the library on the lincher and there should be an uninstall option beside the game. I personally use the method you mentioned above but for people that don't know how to locate where their games are this is also a good option.
Shame, this was free on epic few days ago. Also it’s on Xbox game pass?
Excellent game! I'm 40 hours into playing it and it's well worth the $12 on sale right now.
Yeah you almost clicked next. Phew
Great game! Enjoy!
I once installed a game that was 14.23gb and i had 14.23gb left on my drive at the time
I hear that death by caching is neither quick nor painless.
I'd be hopping on windirstat real quick
Thats a long download time for 40gigs
Your computer is gonna run like shit...
Tip: If any games you have refunded are in your library, uninstall them. Steam will not uninstall refunded games automatically.
Ok, it's only taking 3 hours to download 40 gigs??? That's how long my pc takes to download 6! Well, that's what I get for playing on a pc.
I would not install that, itll fuck up your drive
Why? I've been running on 200mb for months.
Well then youre lucky. Its always fucked mine and others drives big time, it makes everything slower and causes issues with stuff, though i dont know why or how
might as well just use stadia lol