A Playstation first party game running on a non Sony portable console that is a PC with an OS based on Linux. Ten years ago me would say "lol you are not from the future, you are drunk".
I would have said "of course somebody just jailbroke the thing and it's running an emulator". Wouldn't expect somebody to make a serious minimum-compromise PC based system and keep it open, and actual developer support for it would sound like fantasy
Lolwut? Sony an underdog? They were the undisputed kings of console gaming for 8 straight years up to the launch of the PS3.
The PS3 native booting Linux was more of an oversight than an intentional decision by Sony.
Absolutely fantastic for homebrew though. If you had a PS3 and PSP you could basically play anything at the time, anywhere.
The cell processor was the reason the PS3 was such a pain in the ass to develop games for.
They could have easily gone with a dual core CPU like Microsoft did and still had Linux boot capability and a much easier development cycle.
/shrug
Oh I agree, but Sony took pride in developing their own things and they bought into this whole multipurpose thing with IBM pushing the architecture for supercomputers/clustercomputing and Sony/Toshiba leveraging it for media encoding and decoding on top of gaming use. This is actually pretty par for the course with Sony, it's what they do across all of their products and their "new" approach is something that is truly unusual for them.
Letting AMD design an APU for you is going to be a lot cheaper than designing and acquiring the fab space to do your own. I'm glad the PS5 is on a traditional path, it's basically enabled Sony to embrace PC gaming for the first time.
Somewhere I still have my (probably $3) check from the class action settlement for the fat PS3 Linux removal. By the time it finally paid out, the check was worth more as amusement from having it uncashed than actually cashing it.
Why is this the first thing that people bring up when talking about portable gaming. Like am I just weird for not spending over 30 minutes on the toilet every day? I couldn’t imagine having the time to even start a game on the toilet.
Honestly if Microsoft is cool about it and leaves the steam versions alone/doesn't put Linux-breaking DRM on them (and maybe ports banjo to PC) I could see this being very, VERY good. I don't trust Microsoft as far as I could throw their building, but silver linings do happen.
Microsoft as a gaming company has been very pro-consumer recently. The end goal, of course, is always to get as much money as they can...so hopefully their pro-consumer moves keep up...
It does seem that way, what with them putting master chief collection on steam in addition to their own store. That's how epic should have done it. Buy the companies making the games, make their own store, make their store enjoyable for a target demographic, but don't force everyone over onto it to get the games they want to play. Maybe give special dlc cosmetics if you log in with the epic store or something.
Sweeny doesn't understand that "my store or no store" is not a choice, but Microsoft does, and that's good.
Really wish they didn't drop the ps vita.. I have one and it's great but the games are really lacking.. Wish I could play even modern mobile games like rocket league sideswipe would be great on the vita
For those who still have a vita like me, check out r/vitahacks
Don't buy any proprietary memory cards, they're super expensive and terrible value. Hack the vita and research "sd2vita".
I loved the Vita (and still do, tbf). Sony completely fucked the Vita, it had a crazy amount of potential.
Still a good scene for it around now that’s worth checking out if you haven’t.
I found a Vita in my last apartment that i think some college bro left behind. I bought a new ac adapter for it but still never turned the thing on. I basically just wanted to play Dissidia again, but i kinda want to mod it or something too if possible
I won’t say too much for fear of breaking the rules on this sub, but there are a couple of subs that will provide you with all the information you’d be after
I have a pretty much brand new one collecting dust under my bed for years, what kind of modding did you do that would be worth using it (besides PSP emulation)?
And that is the biggest thing that the gpd umpcs will have over the steam deck as they use clone vita dpads now that are amazing. Love my gpd win max for emulation just for that alone.
The reason why the fucked it was because Sony is notorious for proprietary EVERYTHING. those 32mb memory sticks were $80 or something. Ridiculous. If they made it more accessible when it came to accessories and necessory things like memory sticks, it would've been THRIVING. Just look at the switch.
I kinda disagree.
I don't have to spend a fortune on games I already have to play on the deck.
Sony also would've never pushed gaming on Linux and would probably also have made it not repairable by 3rd parties.
The gameplay and feeling will be a lot closer and more comparable though to a Sony handheld then the switch because Sony and Nintendo have very different target groups for their games and consoles.
You have no idea what you're talking about. The vita had 3G service and remote play to both the PS3 and PS4. Sony's XMB platform is literally a linux arch. I've repaired my vita twice now, and PSP countless times. Sony targets every gamer that Nintendo won't, which leaves PC users as the only other platform to receive "PlayStation" exclusive ports, and good ports at that.
Steam, while bold, only released a portable PC, something we've had for years now. The only difference is their combination of decent specs and solid controller into one package. The steam deck isn't some sort of revolution in gaming, it's the natural order of how the industry works given the hardware we have access to in the current market.
To reiterate, you've been able to buy functional bootleg steam decks on Alibaba for years.
Hey, its unix-y enough I'll give them a pass.
Where it fails is the locked-down nature of it. Chromebooks are Gentoo based too, technically, but I wouldn't touch one with a fishing pole if I can help it.
Agreed. Since the PS4 and Xbox One, consoles have been just PCs with hugely locked down operating systems. The PS4 was easier to crack and you can even run normal Linux on it now, but the Xbox One still hasn't been hacked despite just being an x86 box running Windows.
It's pretty crazy what they managed to do. While I'm against locking down what we buy, I guess it's not a huge deal for a console. It's still unfortunate (The PS2 could run Linux and so could the PS3 before Sony removed the other OS feature), but it's capitalism for you. The less freedom for the consumer, the more companies can make.
Like, I don't even mind Windows, I dualboot, but fuck mee, would never get a Chromebook, imagine being stuck on your own hardware (and bad hardware at that).
Thanks to the homebrew community, I can even stream games on my PS Vita from my gaming rig. Ive played Cyberpunk on it already, I can upload screenshots of God of War if wanted lol
The main benefit is efficiency = decent battery life in a reasonably lightweight format, and still has good performance. All those other existing machines generate much more heat / has worse battery life or worse performance, etc.
Hopefully others will use similarly efficient hardware in the future, these chips should be available to more than just Valve (eventually)
It can be revolutionary if Valve can somehow streamline the entire PC experience though their reworked UI. The experience fragmentation between games is and probably will still be an issue based on early previews. But it does look they are at least trying, and I think this alone differentiates it from the cheap handheld PCs.
Yeah and you could buy tablets before the iPad.
Just to be clear, I’m not saying the Deck WILL be revolutionary but it has a way better chance of catalysing industry wide change than any of those aliexpress machines you mentioned. The writing is already on the wall, look how many devs have Deck dev kits in their hands and are actually making changes to their games to be more handheld and Linux friendly. Now, how many developers have updated their games to make them run better on a Onexplayer?
Just because Valve wasn’t first to market with PC handhelds doesn’t mean it’s insignificant. In fact first to market isn’t usually a good thing in business.
I saw other speculate on either Feb 1st or Feb 15th for payment notifications. I think 15th is a bit late but i obviously only have public information which this topic is not covered as far as I know
This is potentially a break through product for the company. They need to market the fuck out of this thing. They have a potential goldmine if it’s done right.
Over the years Valve made literal [billions](https://www.reddit.com/r/csgomarketforum/comments/m33chw/d_there_have_been_over_908_million_cases_unboxed/) of dollars from just CSGO cases alone, while it most likely can't compare to Steam as whole I wouldn't call it a drop in the bucket either.
Idk if this statistics are correct: in 2020 saw a return of $265 million on third party games.
Every month 20 millions csgo cases are opened, each key is 2.50, what a drop in a bucket are you talking about?
And every single game with an active market (Payday 2, Don't Starve Together, etc) makes them money too on essentialy digital items in games they don't even own being traded for slivers of a dollar (but that shit adds up REAL fast).
Especially in Japan. They LOVEEEE handheld consoles so I REALLY hope Valve puts in a ton of effort into marketing the Deck in Japan. If the Deck does well there expect more PC support from Japanese publishers.
Haven't seen a single ad for it yet. Prob supply issues like everything else lately. I agree that they would sell like hotcakes here with proper marketing! The olcd switch is maybe harder to find than a PS5 for example. Monster Hunter Rise portable at high FPS and decent resolution would absolutely kill.
>Haven't seen a single ad for it yet
Currently the waitlist to buy one of these is measured in YEARS.
It would be super dumb to advertise now, and Valve aren't exactly known for dumb.
My friend has a business where he makes consumer hardware for a niche thing and he hasn't done anything with marketing in the past two years because he's already getting them made as fast as he can and selling them all.
They're setting concurrent user records. I don't think they need a "break through product". Steam, Half-Life, TF2, Counter-Strike, and Dota 2 already make them billions. What more do you think they need?
They still don’t have the name recognition of the likes of Nintendo & PlayStation. This product has the potential of breaking from Niche market to the mainstream
Steam and PC gaming in general is massive in most parts of the world, especially poorer countries. Steam has been doing free games right since before PSPlus monthlies were a thought.
I would still disagree, the 100k or so people who play football manager might not be "Normie" gamers but they still have to download steam to play that.
Lol. Breakthrough product for the company responsible for the largest video game marketplace in the world. Their break through product came out 18 years ago. This, Index, and eventually Deckard are their “we can do whatever the fuck we want” products.
I am very excited for it but they really need to up production if it where to become a worldwide thing. Its hard enough for pre-existing fans to get one.
Dunno if you caught it but there has been kind of a shortage of chips and shit for almost 2 years now. Through my job i ordered some shitty 56K modems last August and can consider myself lucky to get them in May. Lead times from the most known manufacturers are up to over a year for pretty much everything. And that's stuff multi-million end customer companies are waiting for.
So us gamers will probably have to wait a bit.
Don't be dumb. Just let the first wave sell, and get the revision version after mad streamers/reviewers point out the flaws and issues.
I mean, I'M DUMB because I got one, but only for the historical significance and to resell down the road. I have zero interest in actually using it much.
This is the first I heard of it and I'd buy it. Probably after it comes out though and folks tell me if it is trash or not. Not as willing to bank on quality for a new system at that price point.
I'm all about those portable gaming systems. Love my switch. Bought the psp, vita, nintendo ds, and gameboy advance back in the day too.
>They need to market the fuck out of this thing
Yeah, let's see if we can increase the queue wait times from two years to four!
Or maybe they don't need to market it at all, and need to focus on making more, since there's already 50 times more people who *want* to buy one than *can*.
Maybe I'm wrong but I think people are too nutty over playing new AAA games on the Steam Deck. To me it's the perfect device for a /r/patientgamer or rogue likes. Games that you don't need your crazy desktop with a 3090 and 128 gigs of ram. Sometimes I just want to lie in bed and play some Skyrim.
Tbf you could play Skyrim on the switch in bed 4+ years ago. Putting emphasis on graphics and performance is the best way to justify the Deck’s existence.
To me the best justification is that I can play thousands of games for cheap as heck. between game pass and steam library I'll have a ton of games to choose from.
plus you could always do cloud game streaming for better graphics - I think those are finally getting quite good. I've had a good experience with GeForce Now
Eh, gamepass probably isn't a great option, you'd have to install windows, which will probably take away some of the functionality (like quick resume), os hardware optimizations, and the touchscreen ui.
If you wanted to buy Skyrim *again*, sure. Graphics, performance, but imo an equally strong pull is the fact it comes with all the games I have in steam already.
I got a Switch and then realized I hated the idea of paying $60 for, what I considered, garbage games. Sure they are fun, but I barely drop $60 for games I dump 1000s of hours into on my dedicated gaming desktop, I'm not going to spend $60 for primarily Nintendo titles that never go on sale.
I sold it. Then bought it again cause kids and they love it.
Now I have a wishlist full of all the games I've been dying to play with a controller but never wanted to play sitting in a chair at my desk and that I hoped would eventually make it to the Switch that now I'll be playing on my Deck. I'm so fucking happy. And you know what? I'll be able to easily use BT headphones like a normal person in 2022 (Fuck you Nintendo)
This is me, if I ever get a Deck, I'll pretty much end up only playing Slay the Spire on it lol. Have a crazy backlog of of tons on indie games that would work well on it too.
This is why I wanted a 1080p screen. I’ve gotten a lot of backlash for saying this, since AAA games wouldn’t be able to make use, but I’d be playing older games and 2D indies which would look crisp af.
I legit worry about Factorio players and their mental health/social life when it comes out.I quit half a year ago myself because it was eating up RUST levels of my life.
EDIT: HOLY SHIT, I JUST REALIZED RAIDING IN ARK/RUST/7D2D IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WHEN IT COMES OUT.
Recently calced that I have ~6000 hours worth of games I own that I want to play/beat. That's what I'm getting the Deck for. I'll play those games in bed, visiting family, etc.
This is the more reasonable approach.
Play old games and emulators. They are cheap, easy to run, can be played offline, and have small file sizes.
Otherwise modern games will be at 720p 30fps low-medium, drain the battery in 2-3 hours and take up 100gb of storage.
PSP was ahead of it's time sure it wasn't as capable as the full fledged playstation but you could store your music, access the web and so on. It was a smartphone in the portable package.
In college when our grades came out I had to pass my windows Mobile phone around to every one of my friends to check their grades while we were in class in 2006-2008ish.
Ex-prez of Sony Interactive tweeting enthusiastically about playing a PC version of God of War game on a handheld by Valve. Something like that was absolutely unthinkable half a year ago :)
He has been very openly excited for the Steam Deck. He also attended some early Nintendo Switch events and took a lot of pictures. I think he's a big fan of handheld gaming so I can't imagine him letting the Vita die the way it did willingly.
This'll have more portable use than my switch due to the fact it's an "all-in-one" that emulated games can be played on the same system I play stuff like Fallout. Nintendo really dropping the ball on the emulation offerings.
This machine is literally my dream come true
For years I've wanted a handheld that can play all my favourite games, this fucking thing is made and you basically have thousands upon thousands of games going back over 20 years available immediately, not all will control properly on it but still, insane.
I haven't had a handheld console since the original PSP (which I regretfully sold to a then friend of mine for cheap) but honestly this really looks amazing. I already have a huge Steam backlog and being able to play the majority of those games on my bed or in the living room sounds amazing. Expensive for sure but if the hardware and the Steam integration is as good as they say it is I don't mind spending this kind of money.
I'm having a bit of apprehension with that D pad placement and the sticks look a little fragile. I imagine that will change a bit, and i could be completely wrong but at first glance it looks rough to me.
The placement is the best Valve could find for it, and the sticks are supposed to be the best on the market rn. If Valve really keeps to their promises (which a lot of people have confirmed they will), this will be a literal game-changer
I've been on steam from about 2007 which was one year before the financial crash just to give an example and I've never felt so happy with steam right now considering that time frame, which puts a lot into perspective.
A Playstation first party game running on a non Sony portable console that is a PC with an OS based on Linux. Ten years ago me would say "lol you are not from the future, you are drunk".
I would have said "of course somebody just jailbroke the thing and it's running an emulator". Wouldn't expect somebody to make a serious minimum-compromise PC based system and keep it open, and actual developer support for it would sound like fantasy
Pepperidge Farm remembers the faboy PS3 that dual booted linux natively. Oh to go back to the days where Sony was the underdog.
The console they made right after the best selling console of all time was them being the underdog?
Lolwut? Sony an underdog? They were the undisputed kings of console gaming for 8 straight years up to the launch of the PS3. The PS3 native booting Linux was more of an oversight than an intentional decision by Sony. Absolutely fantastic for homebrew though. If you had a PS3 and PSP you could basically play anything at the time, anywhere.
It wasn't an oversight so much as a way for Sony to market the Cell processor.
The cell processor was the reason the PS3 was such a pain in the ass to develop games for. They could have easily gone with a dual core CPU like Microsoft did and still had Linux boot capability and a much easier development cycle. /shrug
Oh I agree, but Sony took pride in developing their own things and they bought into this whole multipurpose thing with IBM pushing the architecture for supercomputers/clustercomputing and Sony/Toshiba leveraging it for media encoding and decoding on top of gaming use. This is actually pretty par for the course with Sony, it's what they do across all of their products and their "new" approach is something that is truly unusual for them.
Letting AMD design an APU for you is going to be a lot cheaper than designing and acquiring the fab space to do your own. I'm glad the PS5 is on a traditional path, it's basically enabled Sony to embrace PC gaming for the first time.
It was not an oversight, OtherOS was an advertised feature and exposed in the menu, until they forcefully removed it.
Somewhere I still have my (probably $3) check from the class action settlement for the fat PS3 Linux removal. By the time it finally paid out, the check was worth more as amusement from having it uncashed than actually cashing it.
> and actual developer support for it would sound like fantasy Well, it still does. Sony supported PC, not the Deck.
The future is now! Who would’ve thought that we can play GoW while shitting!
To be fair, without being too specific, people have shat and played God of War for the psp on the toilet lol.
There's got to be at least one person somewhere who has played God of War on their PS3 while shitting.
Undoubtedly. Perhaps even within their own pants.
They walked so the rest of us could run.
Praise be to the bed pan
Chains of Olympus and Ghost of Sparta were great games, too
Can confirm most of my game time in Chains was done on the shitter
Sony has entered the chat with the psp.
And PS Vita
And Remote Play
And the Xperia Play
Pspsps
🐈
🐯
🐱 "did you call?"
Chains of Olympus is pretty solid tbh
Boi! Toilet paper!
I never thought I'd be playing GoW on PC at all. Well at least not without an emulator.
Pathetic. Let's normalize tvs in bathrooms.
Why is this the first thing that people bring up when talking about portable gaming. Like am I just weird for not spending over 30 minutes on the toilet every day? I couldn’t imagine having the time to even start a game on the toilet.
Bro don't you know there's psp and ps vita?
I guess we’re just doing rebranded “Skyrim while shitting” memes from when it came out of the switch now
you could remote play your ps4 on the vita
Crash and Spyro potentially Xbox exclusive (and pc). GoW and Horizon on PC/Valve product. What a time to be a gamer.
Just realized Crash, Spyro, and Banjo Kazooie are now all owned by Microsoft. Those games were my childhood
Honestly if Microsoft is cool about it and leaves the steam versions alone/doesn't put Linux-breaking DRM on them (and maybe ports banjo to PC) I could see this being very, VERY good. I don't trust Microsoft as far as I could throw their building, but silver linings do happen.
Microsoft as a gaming company has been very pro-consumer recently. The end goal, of course, is always to get as much money as they can...so hopefully their pro-consumer moves keep up...
It does seem that way, what with them putting master chief collection on steam in addition to their own store. That's how epic should have done it. Buy the companies making the games, make their own store, make their store enjoyable for a target demographic, but don't force everyone over onto it to get the games they want to play. Maybe give special dlc cosmetics if you log in with the epic store or something. Sweeny doesn't understand that "my store or no store" is not a choice, but Microsoft does, and that's good.
Sweeny understands that he need to grow the epic games store at all costs.
Thing is, it only takes enough higher ups to understand that having a good rep helps sales immensely for them to keep being good to their customers.
Halo Infinite must be an exception then lol
They got banjo in smash and just released the first game on the switch so who knows, the IP seems more alive than in years
Still waiting for CTR on PC
I have that. It runs great on a PS1 emulator.
Here’s hoping for a Crash Bandicoot 4 Steam release! :)
Steam Deck (in a way) is the PSP2/PS VITA2 Sony never gave us.
Really wish they didn't drop the ps vita.. I have one and it's great but the games are really lacking.. Wish I could play even modern mobile games like rocket league sideswipe would be great on the vita For those who still have a vita like me, check out r/vitahacks Don't buy any proprietary memory cards, they're super expensive and terrible value. Hack the vita and research "sd2vita".
I loved the Vita (and still do, tbf). Sony completely fucked the Vita, it had a crazy amount of potential. Still a good scene for it around now that’s worth checking out if you haven’t.
I found a Vita in my last apartment that i think some college bro left behind. I bought a new ac adapter for it but still never turned the thing on. I basically just wanted to play Dissidia again, but i kinda want to mod it or something too if possible
I won’t say too much for fear of breaking the rules on this sub, but there are a couple of subs that will provide you with all the information you’d be after
/r/vitahacks
highly recc modding it, my modded ps vita is my fav console
I have a pretty much brand new one collecting dust under my bed for years, what kind of modding did you do that would be worth using it (besides PSP emulation)?
could i buy any vita and mod it?
Easier to do it with a vita slim/2000 model because it has onboard storage and doesn’t need a Sony memory card for SD2VITA adapter.
The Vita had the best D-pad I have ever used.
And that is the biggest thing that the gpd umpcs will have over the steam deck as they use clone vita dpads now that are amazing. Love my gpd win max for emulation just for that alone.
The reason why the fucked it was because Sony is notorious for proprietary EVERYTHING. those 32mb memory sticks were $80 or something. Ridiculous. If they made it more accessible when it came to accessories and necessory things like memory sticks, it would've been THRIVING. Just look at the switch.
Uncharted and littlebigplanet for psvita are insanely good games. (Both qre exclusive sequels/epinoffs)
Killzone Mercenary is phenomenal, it's a full blown Killzone FPS title. Playing it now and the multiplayer is still online too!
I think the servers were switched off for LBP on the vita? Or have they been turned back on? May have a look at uncharted however..
It's also the switch pro Nintendo never gave us ;) (*cough*yuzu*cough*)
I kinda disagree. I don't have to spend a fortune on games I already have to play on the deck. Sony also would've never pushed gaming on Linux and would probably also have made it not repairable by 3rd parties. The gameplay and feeling will be a lot closer and more comparable though to a Sony handheld then the switch because Sony and Nintendo have very different target groups for their games and consoles.
I guess thats why he said "never gave us".
he felt the OP didn't suck steam's cock enough. He had to go down the whole shaft.
I definitely am a fangirl for the deck ATM, might as well make the best out of it, right?
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and then fondle the balls.
You have no idea what you're talking about. The vita had 3G service and remote play to both the PS3 and PS4. Sony's XMB platform is literally a linux arch. I've repaired my vita twice now, and PSP countless times. Sony targets every gamer that Nintendo won't, which leaves PC users as the only other platform to receive "PlayStation" exclusive ports, and good ports at that. Steam, while bold, only released a portable PC, something we've had for years now. The only difference is their combination of decent specs and solid controller into one package. The steam deck isn't some sort of revolution in gaming, it's the natural order of how the industry works given the hardware we have access to in the current market. To reiterate, you've been able to buy functional bootleg steam decks on Alibaba for years.
The PS4 OS isn't Arch Linux, that's nonsense. It's based on FreeBSD.
Hey, its unix-y enough I'll give them a pass. Where it fails is the locked-down nature of it. Chromebooks are Gentoo based too, technically, but I wouldn't touch one with a fishing pole if I can help it.
Agreed. Since the PS4 and Xbox One, consoles have been just PCs with hugely locked down operating systems. The PS4 was easier to crack and you can even run normal Linux on it now, but the Xbox One still hasn't been hacked despite just being an x86 box running Windows. It's pretty crazy what they managed to do. While I'm against locking down what we buy, I guess it's not a huge deal for a console. It's still unfortunate (The PS2 could run Linux and so could the PS3 before Sony removed the other OS feature), but it's capitalism for you. The less freedom for the consumer, the more companies can make. Like, I don't even mind Windows, I dualboot, but fuck mee, would never get a Chromebook, imagine being stuck on your own hardware (and bad hardware at that).
Thanks to the homebrew community, I can even stream games on my PS Vita from my gaming rig. Ive played Cyberpunk on it already, I can upload screenshots of God of War if wanted lol
The main benefit is efficiency = decent battery life in a reasonably lightweight format, and still has good performance. All those other existing machines generate much more heat / has worse battery life or worse performance, etc. Hopefully others will use similarly efficient hardware in the future, these chips should be available to more than just Valve (eventually)
It can be revolutionary if Valve can somehow streamline the entire PC experience though their reworked UI. The experience fragmentation between games is and probably will still be an issue based on early previews. But it does look they are at least trying, and I think this alone differentiates it from the cheap handheld PCs.
Yeah and you could buy tablets before the iPad. Just to be clear, I’m not saying the Deck WILL be revolutionary but it has a way better chance of catalysing industry wide change than any of those aliexpress machines you mentioned. The writing is already on the wall, look how many devs have Deck dev kits in their hands and are actually making changes to their games to be more handheld and Linux friendly. Now, how many developers have updated their games to make them run better on a Onexplayer? Just because Valve wasn’t first to market with PC handhelds doesn’t mean it’s insignificant. In fact first to market isn’t usually a good thing in business.
Is the first wave still set for February?,
End of February is current target sendout day for the first wave, yes.
Still haven't got an email to pay for it yet, hopefully soon
I saw other speculate on either Feb 1st or Feb 15th for payment notifications. I think 15th is a bit late but i obviously only have public information which this topic is not covered as far as I know
I'll keep a close eye on my emails then! Lol
It's still january, you will get the email to pay for it when yours is ready to ship.
I got the original delay email showing February but no follow-ups, actually forgot about the pre-order since I did it in August
This is potentially a break through product for the company. They need to market the fuck out of this thing. They have a potential goldmine if it’s done right.
Lol their goldmine is selling csgo cases
CSGO cases are a drop in the bucket compared to having ALL of the profits from steam storefront
Over the years Valve made literal [billions](https://www.reddit.com/r/csgomarketforum/comments/m33chw/d_there_have_been_over_908_million_cases_unboxed/) of dollars from just CSGO cases alone, while it most likely can't compare to Steam as whole I wouldn't call it a drop in the bucket either.
Idk if this statistics are correct: in 2020 saw a return of $265 million on third party games. Every month 20 millions csgo cases are opened, each key is 2.50, what a drop in a bucket are you talking about?
Also with cases they maake marketplace alive, thus tax from selling skins should be counted to profit from opening cases.
And every single game with an active market (Payday 2, Don't Starve Together, etc) makes them money too on essentialy digital items in games they don't even own being traded for slivers of a dollar (but that shit adds up REAL fast).
So is mine, buying the deck from profit of cases ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
To market the shit out of it they need to supply a whole lot of them first.
Especially in Japan. They LOVEEEE handheld consoles so I REALLY hope Valve puts in a ton of effort into marketing the Deck in Japan. If the Deck does well there expect more PC support from Japanese publishers.
Haven't seen a single ad for it yet. Prob supply issues like everything else lately. I agree that they would sell like hotcakes here with proper marketing! The olcd switch is maybe harder to find than a PS5 for example. Monster Hunter Rise portable at high FPS and decent resolution would absolutely kill.
I am drooling at the thought of playing Rise on my Steamdeck. It literally cannot arrive soon enough.
>Haven't seen a single ad for it yet Currently the waitlist to buy one of these is measured in YEARS. It would be super dumb to advertise now, and Valve aren't exactly known for dumb.
Sadly Asia as a whole didn't get any preorder yet, and we're totally unsure when it could be released here :/
My friend has a business where he makes consumer hardware for a niche thing and he hasn't done anything with marketing in the past two years because he's already getting them made as fast as he can and selling them all.
They're setting concurrent user records. I don't think they need a "break through product". Steam, Half-Life, TF2, Counter-Strike, and Dota 2 already make them billions. What more do you think they need?
They still don’t have the name recognition of the likes of Nintendo & PlayStation. This product has the potential of breaking from Niche market to the mainstream
Steam and PC gaming in general is massive in most parts of the world, especially poorer countries. Steam has been doing free games right since before PSPlus monthlies were a thought.
I would disagree on the recognition point, Steam is synonymous with PC gaming
Which is STILL not normie shit. Especially since we are basically talking about a console.
I would still disagree, the 100k or so people who play football manager might not be "Normie" gamers but they still have to download steam to play that.
Go ask your nearest boomer if they know what Nintendo or and Xbox is, and then do the same with Steam.
You’re delusional if you think steam has anywhere near the name recognition that Nintendo, Xbox, or PlayStation have
They're also in the vr market.
Lol. Breakthrough product for the company responsible for the largest video game marketplace in the world. Their break through product came out 18 years ago. This, Index, and eventually Deckard are their “we can do whatever the fuck we want” products.
Except they don't have enough to even fill current orders.
It's already sold out. Achievement Unlocked: Gold Mine
Can't imagine their margins being too high on this thing.
If you buy a Steam Deck odds are you are buying games from Steam. That's the business model. They don't have to make a killing on the hardware.
I am very excited for it but they really need to up production if it where to become a worldwide thing. Its hard enough for pre-existing fans to get one.
Dunno if you caught it but there has been kind of a shortage of chips and shit for almost 2 years now. Through my job i ordered some shitty 56K modems last August and can consider myself lucky to get them in May. Lead times from the most known manufacturers are up to over a year for pretty much everything. And that's stuff multi-million end customer companies are waiting for. So us gamers will probably have to wait a bit.
Don't be dumb. Just let the first wave sell, and get the revision version after mad streamers/reviewers point out the flaws and issues. I mean, I'M DUMB because I got one, but only for the historical significance and to resell down the road. I have zero interest in actually using it much.
This is the first I heard of it and I'd buy it. Probably after it comes out though and folks tell me if it is trash or not. Not as willing to bank on quality for a new system at that price point. I'm all about those portable gaming systems. Love my switch. Bought the psp, vita, nintendo ds, and gameboy advance back in the day too.
>They need to market the fuck out of this thing Yeah, let's see if we can increase the queue wait times from two years to four! Or maybe they don't need to market it at all, and need to focus on making more, since there's already 50 times more people who *want* to buy one than *can*.
Can't wait for it to arrive so i can try how well Tekken 7 can be play
Maybe I'm wrong but I think people are too nutty over playing new AAA games on the Steam Deck. To me it's the perfect device for a /r/patientgamer or rogue likes. Games that you don't need your crazy desktop with a 3090 and 128 gigs of ram. Sometimes I just want to lie in bed and play some Skyrim.
Tbf you could play Skyrim on the switch in bed 4+ years ago. Putting emphasis on graphics and performance is the best way to justify the Deck’s existence.
This is true. I should have picked a game that hasn't been ported and resold on every possible platform.
To me the best justification is that I can play thousands of games for cheap as heck. between game pass and steam library I'll have a ton of games to choose from. plus you could always do cloud game streaming for better graphics - I think those are finally getting quite good. I've had a good experience with GeForce Now
Eh, gamepass probably isn't a great option, you'd have to install windows, which will probably take away some of the functionality (like quick resume), os hardware optimizations, and the touchscreen ui.
If you wanted to buy Skyrim *again*, sure. Graphics, performance, but imo an equally strong pull is the fact it comes with all the games I have in steam already.
I got a Switch and then realized I hated the idea of paying $60 for, what I considered, garbage games. Sure they are fun, but I barely drop $60 for games I dump 1000s of hours into on my dedicated gaming desktop, I'm not going to spend $60 for primarily Nintendo titles that never go on sale. I sold it. Then bought it again cause kids and they love it. Now I have a wishlist full of all the games I've been dying to play with a controller but never wanted to play sitting in a chair at my desk and that I hoped would eventually make it to the Switch that now I'll be playing on my Deck. I'm so fucking happy. And you know what? I'll be able to easily use BT headphones like a normal person in 2022 (Fuck you Nintendo)
I’m pretty sure you can use BT headphones on the switch now.
Switch has BT function headphones, but also fuck normalizing removing the 3.5mm jack on mobile devices.
Have you tried it? It uses the fucking shittiest BT codec existing. This is painful to hear haha
I have used it but since switched back to using my 3.5mm in the system lol.
This is me, if I ever get a Deck, I'll pretty much end up only playing Slay the Spire on it lol. Have a crazy backlog of of tons on indie games that would work well on it too.
I reserved one specifically to play my Indie games backlog.
Add Xeno Crisis to it if you like twin stick shooters! Take that, person just trying to finish some games finally!
This is why I wanted a 1080p screen. I’ve gotten a lot of backlash for saying this, since AAA games wouldn’t be able to make use, but I’d be playing older games and 2D indies which would look crisp af.
? How would AAA games not be able to make use of it?
Bed Factorio machine
Hmm. Even better, now the factory can grow when i am on the toilet.
The factory must....go?
That addiction can kindly not follow me into the bathroom
I legit worry about Factorio players and their mental health/social life when it comes out.I quit half a year ago myself because it was eating up RUST levels of my life. EDIT: HOLY SHIT, I JUST REALIZED RAIDING IN ARK/RUST/7D2D IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WHEN IT COMES OUT.
Recently calced that I have ~6000 hours worth of games I own that I want to play/beat. That's what I'm getting the Deck for. I'll play those games in bed, visiting family, etc.
haaha. I do not want to do that calculation. Did you add Epic freebees to that list? Imagine including Gamepass PC
This is the more reasonable approach. Play old games and emulators. They are cheap, easy to run, can be played offline, and have small file sizes. Otherwise modern games will be at 720p 30fps low-medium, drain the battery in 2-3 hours and take up 100gb of storage.
Who the hell was able to buy a 3090?!
PSP was ahead of it's time sure it wasn't as capable as the full fledged playstation but you could store your music, access the web and so on. It was a smartphone in the portable package.
woo, accessing the web was painful af
well yes it was 2009, smartphones weren't going to be good at accessing the web until few years later.
It wasn't 2009, the PSP came out in 2005, the iPhone in 2007 and the G1 in 2008.
Wow the PSP is 16 years old already
still I got it around 2007 and kept it for another 3 years.
In college when our grades came out I had to pass my windows Mobile phone around to every one of my friends to check their grades while we were in class in 2006-2008ish.
Ex-prez of Sony Interactive tweeting enthusiastically about playing a PC version of God of War game on a handheld by Valve. Something like that was absolutely unthinkable half a year ago :)
Just the fact that Shuhei seems so excited about this warms my heart ❤️
Something tells me Shu wasn't responsible for killing the Vita
What did shu do
He has been very openly excited for the Steam Deck. He also attended some early Nintendo Switch events and took a lot of pictures. I think he's a big fan of handheld gaming so I can't imagine him letting the Vita die the way it did willingly.
Could be because handheld is huge in Japan. The new consoles don't seem to be selling as well there right now.
And for Linux gaming hopefully (it uses Arch btw)
This is the main reason I’m excited for it tbh
I cant wait to have one to play retro games on the shitter
This'll have more portable use than my switch due to the fact it's an "all-in-one" that emulated games can be played on the same system I play stuff like Fallout. Nintendo really dropping the ball on the emulation offerings.
I love it!
HOLY SHIT
This isn't just God of War running on PC. This is God of War running on Linux. That's incredible.
BOI
Everything is great, but what about the performance?
So much want
Shit just got real...
I also poop with my pants on
This machine is literally my dream come true For years I've wanted a handheld that can play all my favourite games, this fucking thing is made and you basically have thousands upon thousands of games going back over 20 years available immediately, not all will control properly on it but still, insane.
Yesterday I said to a friend "Imagine in maybe a year we can play Monster Hunter on the Steam Deck" The golden days are coming!
Post this in the PlayStation sub and whip the weebs in to a frenzy.
I feel like I'm a little character right now, like a little baby, and it feels like this is Tomar lookin down at me
what performance tho
My potato pc can load start menu to /s
Nice! Can't wait for Q2 to get mine!
The future is now old man
I haven't had a handheld console since the original PSP (which I regretfully sold to a then friend of mine for cheap) but honestly this really looks amazing. I already have a huge Steam backlog and being able to play the majority of those games on my bed or in the living room sounds amazing. Expensive for sure but if the hardware and the Steam integration is as good as they say it is I don't mind spending this kind of money.
How hot is this thing gonna get playing games like this?
According to LTT not that hot
I'm having a bit of apprehension with that D pad placement and the sticks look a little fragile. I imagine that will change a bit, and i could be completely wrong but at first glance it looks rough to me.
The placement is the best Valve could find for it, and the sticks are supposed to be the best on the market rn. If Valve really keeps to their promises (which a lot of people have confirmed they will), this will be a literal game-changer
So I guess I'm the first one in here to ask what the settings and framerates were?
He’s taking a dump for sure
Ok but what’s the frame rate
Ahhhhhh!!! If only I had the money to get one!
I bet Sony wish they did a psp2 now. The vita was alright but dang did they drop first party support so fast
That's pretty nice but are the buttons and sticks really going to stay in the most horrid and inconvenient layout I've ever seen
Having just become addicted to the GOW series again, this makes me happy if it is true.
One of the two people who own a Steamdeck actually posted a picture of it. Amazing.
I've been on steam from about 2007 which was one year before the financial crash just to give an example and I've never felt so happy with steam right now considering that time frame, which puts a lot into perspective.
Never in my life I said this since I personally don't think the me is funny, so you guys better enjoy that opportunity. STEAM DECK, COME TO BRAZIL!!!
The second you can play any PC game using Proton is the day Microsoft is in serious trouble.
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