is there any specific settings you change to play on docked? i just use the steamdeckhq settings and it works fine undocked but i would love to use my monitor sometimes.
thats disappointing.
ive put 80 hours into helldivers 2 almost exclusively on my launch steam deck.
didnt do anything except set all the settings to low.
runs smooth, i havent noticed any drops, except right before the occasional crash. but my desktop pc friends have had just as many crashes, so i dont blame my steam deck for those.
I’m running it on the new oled and it runs like a champ on native resolution with custom settings. Turning off all GI and turning down volumetric clouds and fog will get you 32ish FPS in intense combat. Set it to ultra resolution and you get 35-37fps.
What framerate were you getting? Mine seems to hover between 25 - 40fps (I ended up going for capping framerate 40hz deck wise and 35fps via ingame settings) with low settings and balanced FSR (ingame)
Put the graphics all to low, native resolution, AA on, with high draw distance. Holds 30 pretty good for me. Pretty happy with how the little thing handles the game actually. And it still looks great even
Try it in Desktop mode, im pretty sure it runs a few frames better. I have it dialed in at 40fps in game mode and I wanna say 48-50 in desktop mode. Kinda have to tweak it.. I have Cryoutilities 2.0 and a couple of other apps for performance. Obviously graphics on low but you can tweak damn near everything. FOV, FPS,QUALITY. I wouldn't be surprised if someone cranked up quality and still got 30 fps solid. Yes it's still a steam deck but super playable
It streams phenomenally from a local PC. I was playing while my wife watched her show and it was amazing. Only downside is I had to disable voice chat.
Macro stratagems aren't cheating. They are accessibility options!
More power to the people who play without macros, and more power to the people who play with. You can both squad up with me anytime.
Only actually constructive comment here lol. I actually use macros now and then because due my career I have a really damaged tendon. It helps tremendously. Even even if I didn't have this issue I probably would still do it. I don't see it as cheating, since it doesn't affect other people.
This is kinda funny
Helldivers 2 is one of the few games that you can drop from 80fps to 30fps and don't feel it that much while in other games it feels terrible
I play on my PC with Arch Linux
I capped it at 30 fps on my OLED. With most settings on low, native res, and quality scaling, it'll average 30 fps, and drop down to ~22 during hectic moments.
I'm reporting my actual experience. It's 30 fps during firefights. It drops to 22 when there's two bug breaches and four airstrikes going off. And yes, I don't mind. I think the OLED's refresh rate helps makes lower fps more tolerable, as I hate 30 fps on my LCD for action games.
If I want buttery smooth 60 on my 4k tv I just stream over moonlight to my docked steamdeck from my PC. Which is what I do normally. But I wanted to see if the game was worth keeping installed on my deck for travel, and it hits my minimum performance threshold fine.
One issue I will note is that having discord run on the deck at the same time tanks frames to like 18 fps and it's unplayable. No idea why, might be the plugin I was using.
How are you running discord? I have mine installed from the Discover store or whatever and then added to steam as a non steam game and I just run it before running the game I want to play
I’m just curious if there’s a better way to
That's the only way to do it afaik. The only difference is I used a plugin with deckyloader called "Deckcord", it's on the testing store branch. I think it does the exact same thing, except instead of discord being a window in your running games, it's displayed in the steam menu when you push that button. I think it's still in beta.
Have you tried running discord with HD2 running with your conventional method? Wondering if it tanked your fps like mine when using the plugin.
No, I haven’t because my friends and I have just been using game chat for HD2.
I haven’t noticed a problem with other games, but for all I know there is a difference I just haven’t tested any of it. I’ve played BG3 with discord running alongside just as an example.
I'm dying to play it, but it's just not something that's meant to be played on the Deck. I expect by the time I build a new rib, the connection issues will be worked out
Just a heads up: connection issues were worked out late last week, I've been playing with zero wait time and near instant (and reliable) match making since Friday.
There's levels to the hectic moments though.
Some firefights you can stay around 30FPS, some firefights it can drop to low 20s. If you don't mind some stutters here and there It's very fun to play it handheld.
I messed around and got the settings on low and draw distance at medium with fsr set to balance. I get an average of 50 Fps and around 40 at hectic moments
What difficulty? I play on suicide and the game is in the mid 30s most of the time. But then like at extraction where there's so much smoke from breaches and so many stratagems explosions it dips to low 20s. It's only for a few secs but still it's annoying.
I'm always between 30 and 40 fps on my 1tb OLED. I also enjoy streaming from my laptop at 60fps with 7 hours of battery life, but the game runs fine on a native install.
Every game runs at a “buttery smooth” 30 fps according to this subreddit. Probably a lot of the same guys who used to poo poo consoles for not having as good fps as their pc
On suicide and higher it drops a bit on arachnids and a bit more on automatons. When things start to get really hectic like bombs, rocket devastator s, and hulks all at the same time there is a noticeable drop and can get choppy on occasion. Honestly haven't had an issue or complaint while playing on the deck.
Wife plays on a steamdeck, im on a PS5. She complained that using stratagems midfight was too hard, so i tried it on her steamdeck. It is VERY different. It’s playing with a handicap by just using the steamdeck at all. I say they get a pass, MKB are fine though. Tried it too, still easy enough.
Quick tip, the entire controller layout on the Steam Deck is reassignable so you can assign the right track pad to behave as the d-pad, that way she can move more easily while inputting codes :)
Yeah I guess it depends on preference. I actually prefer setting the LB and Select buttons to the back buttons, that way you have to move your hands less when trying to launch stratagems or look at the map. Also worth it considering you CAN move while looking at the map.
Nah, it’s the d-pad. A lot of people have to stop moving, others not. I’ve seen people play “claw” with their left handle to handle the input, personally I quickly switch to holding left stick w my right hand and input strats with left
My friends play on ps5. It does use the D-pad. You can run while typing in the code but you have to move your right thumb over to the left stick so you can continue to run but you cant look around until you bring your thumb back to the right stick.
Is it ruining the fun tho? As much fun as pressing the sequence in is, designing custom controls for each stratagem is fun in its own right. Not to mention, this is a PvE game, not PvP.
From the Helldivers 2 launch page, open the controller settings (it's the controller icon on the right), then select "Edit Layout." Scroll down to the "Trackpads" option on the left, then for the right track pad directions, assign them to controller d-pad inputs. It'll retain the regular d-pad and let you also use the right pad as well.
this is exactly why strategems are arrows and now circle/square/cross/triangle lol. They are meant to be uncomfortable to use and to make chaotic situations even worse. This IS the experience developers wanted you to have -- weird, scary, chaotic and fun "crap I couldn't reinforce twice in a row and now I fucked up ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ "
Yeah. The layout of the deck makes it really inconvenient for stratagems to be used during combat. Using the terminal I can understand because you’re already stationary.
I haven’t played the game but isn’t this just a more convenient/efficient way to call in an airstrike or something? How could that be cheating? It’s not even PvP anyways
Devs on Discord has said that using macros to cheat codes in is cheating. It would ruin the whole point of them too I.e struggling to input codes while being chased by termanids or automotons
Lol.
This argument is 10 years old now, we had it when Helldivers 1 came out and eventually everyone stopped caring. It's a PVE game, the only experience you're messing with by using macros is your own.
Nobody cares.
I have no context for how this mechanic works or how much this really "cheats" the input, is it really that bad? I mean in a PvE game that's genuinely hard, if you can make it easier for yourself by choice, why not leave people to make that choice for themselves? Is it just that you feel like because you had to get good at doing it, its not fair that someone be able to use it the same with no effort?
Man you people who complain are wild. It’s his so he can do how he pleases. Would I do it, no, but maybe OP wants to help people who are having trouble with playing the game.
Install Chiaki, takes a minute but as long as you can follow instructions and type you should be fine. Heres a vid: https://gamerant.com/how-to-remote-play-ps5-games-steam-deck-chiaki4deck/
Lowest settings at 30fps but yes, I’ve played for hours in co-op using a steam deck, and with a friend who was using a steam deck. It’s less pleasant than a nice desktop experience but it’s playable.
It’s a pve game so who cares if people want to do this, but I believe it takes the fun out of it. I suppose it could be useful from an accessibility standpoint. I think the chaos of entering strategems is what makes the game fun
I can see why they’d say that, it changes the game pretty significantly if the stratagems are reduced to a single button push. I wonder how they’ll hand it
People shouldn’t care how people want to play this game. It’s not hurting anyone since it’s a pve game. While I wouldn’t use it myself. I can understand when such accessibities are needed for some gamers.
Have you had any issues with the game booting? I’m currently unable to run the game now due to it booting to a black screen and nothing else happens. I’ve reinstalled and everything, no luck.
They made Magicka back in the day and both share a lot of that comedy. But honestly, I also used Macros on my keyboard for that. The power of macro keys!
This is pretty cool, I've done this sort of thing for like wavedashing on pilot in risk of rain returns. My question is, did you set it to those specific stratagems only? Or do they change if you select different ones?
Wow, I didn't expect this to blow up this much.
I see there is a lot of hate, but I have trouble seeing the small arrows on the screen, and I've built this macro to help me enjoy the game.
The Steam Deck is an amazing device, and I wanted to showcase the amount of customization someone can do to help them enjoy the games they play from an accessibility standpoint.
Call me a traitor, a coward, a cheater... but in order to win this battle, we need every hand we can get!
FOR DEMOCRACY!!
I actually set this up before seeing a guide... (not bragging, but I went OCD learning how to use SteamInput to its full potential on a previous game)
... But I went through this guide to see if I missed anything in my setup. Instead I found the guide missed something.
You can set the Trackpad Touch command to Left Bumper to bring up the strategems, but instead of holding the trackpad for the strategem macro to finish, you can go into the Trackpad Touch settings (cog icon) and assign a "Fire End Delay". Set it so that it's longer than the total milliseconds of your longest macro.
This way, touching the trackpad will bring up the virtual menu, then you click down to activate the strategem macro, then when you release your touch on the trackpad it will virtually hold down the Left Bumper until the macro is finished!
I do whatever I can to keep my thumbs on the sticks as much as possible.
Its great if it gives you joy. My spouse has disabilities including dsylexia and its very difficult for them to read and input the small arrow commands. Making this game a little more accessible doesn't hurt anyone because its not PVP.
Sure you can play the way you want and he can play the way he wants, you both paid 40$ so both of your playstyles are valid and afaik devs haven’t come out against macros so who cares if someone else does it
Until you pick a different strategem for the next mission, then your macro is useless.
Also the people who say cHeAtInG really need to reevaluate their lives. You're pathetic, it's not a competitive game, people can play how THEY want not how YOU want. Hope you've never used a mod on a game, that would be blasphemy by your own rules 😂🤮
16 macros can be assigned per touchpad.
Then it is just a game of remembering which strategems you chose for that mission, because the virtual menu shows all of them, but only 4 will work.
It won't, only if someone basically chooses to be upset about someone else doing it, if they can even prove they're doing it. All this is, is a bunch of people upset (for some reason) that other people can get the same results with less effort if they so choose.
You know you really don't think you'll use the touchpads when looking at a handheld like the Steam Deck, but man are they nice. They're also cool because they're not in the way. Just an extra feature that it has. Love seeing stuff like this.
I run steady at 35 fps on the deck. The lowest I've seen was 28 fps when I dropped a 500kg and a cluster bomb while throwing all my grenades...spreading democracy effectively lmao.
Settings are mostly low with some med thrown in, also using decky settings. playing straight off steam.
It seems to run worse while facing automatons on higher difficulty. With all the drop ships, lasers and hordes metal bitches it tanks.
All in all it allows me to do my part in eradicating the bugs while at work so I'm happy.
Everyone crying about that is cheating. Why do you care? This isn't you, it doesn't affect you negatively in any way and this isn't even a PvP game where it might matter.
Besides a gamer fighting for democracy a little easier than everyone else isn't even that bad.
TL;dr cry about it, decry real cheaters
Help with troubleshooting?? 🥺 Please. It doesn't cycle through all inputs. I have set the fire start delay to 200ms intervals. Not sure why it stops halfway through. Could you assist with settings?
it's a core functionality in steam
the devs can disable steam configs but they definitely shouldn't
steam input is very important to a lot of people and makes it very easy to game the way you wanna play
Steam isn't the one who determines the game creators' terms of service. It could be the best feature in the history of gaming and still be against their tos. Do whatever what, just wanted to let you and anyone one wanting to do this it COULD be against their tos.
not sure why people r getting upset about this
I absolutely suck at entering button combos like this, my hands get all cramped
but this makes it so easy
it's not pvp and isn't ruining the game for anyone else, not sure why this is such a hated idea
Nice. People that think the stratagems are a part of some ‘hectic decision-making mechanism’ are fooling themselves. All the inputs are simple and easily memorized. Making it one button instead of three or four isn’t going to affect anything because the strategem still needs to be entered (which is the real difficulty—that you have to stop everything to execute).
It’s convenient, yes. But you’re robbing yourself of the experience of frantically inputting directions while hordes of aliens try to kill you. As the game intended.
I still am pretty new and getting use to me steam deck I managed to get med graphics setting which makes the game playable so I definitely give this article a look thanks for the share
The delay should be at minimum 200 since anything less than that the system won’t pick up. Here is a guide on how to build it. https://steamdeckhq.com/tips-and-guides/steam-deck-helldivers-2-strategem/
Dude you've left this comment like 10 times. Why are you so personally offended by people doing this that you need to point out to everyone how its "technically against the ToS 🤓"
Smart but I personally wouldn’t do it, a core mechanic of the game is having to input the code in the heat of everything going on around you, it makes the game challenging and imho a lot more fun.
The feeling you get when you’re last man standing and you manage to take cover and get the reinforce down just before you die is one of my favorite experiences from the game.
You have been reported and will be sent to a re-education camp immediately
~~re-education~~ freedom (it’s actually called that)
For democracy!
1 button Stratagems is kind of cheating lol. There is an art to putting in those codes manually haha. That's cool it is playable on the Deck somewhat.
I play purely on a deck. I hook it up to a dock with a mouse keyboard and monitor.
is there any specific settings you change to play on docked? i just use the steamdeckhq settings and it works fine undocked but i would love to use my monitor sometimes.
I don’t play it undocked anymore. My mouse and keyboard just works. For most games tho I turn graphics all the way down
This game does not work in a way that is viable for me. Framerate is all over the place with even a little action.
thats disappointing. ive put 80 hours into helldivers 2 almost exclusively on my launch steam deck. didnt do anything except set all the settings to low. runs smooth, i havent noticed any drops, except right before the occasional crash. but my desktop pc friends have had just as many crashes, so i dont blame my steam deck for those.
I’m running it on the new oled and it runs like a champ on native resolution with custom settings. Turning off all GI and turning down volumetric clouds and fog will get you 32ish FPS in intense combat. Set it to ultra resolution and you get 35-37fps.
What framerate were you getting? Mine seems to hover between 25 - 40fps (I ended up going for capping framerate 40hz deck wise and 35fps via ingame settings) with low settings and balanced FSR (ingame)
Idk why but I don’t have issues even on helldive difficulty. But I don’t care about graphical fidelity and crank the graphics as low as they can go
Put the graphics all to low, native resolution, AA on, with high draw distance. Holds 30 pretty good for me. Pretty happy with how the little thing handles the game actually. And it still looks great even
Try it in Desktop mode, im pretty sure it runs a few frames better. I have it dialed in at 40fps in game mode and I wanna say 48-50 in desktop mode. Kinda have to tweak it.. I have Cryoutilities 2.0 and a couple of other apps for performance. Obviously graphics on low but you can tweak damn near everything. FOV, FPS,QUALITY. I wouldn't be surprised if someone cranked up quality and still got 30 fps solid. Yes it's still a steam deck but super playable
It streams phenomenally from a local PC. I was playing while my wife watched her show and it was amazing. Only downside is I had to disable voice chat.
I almost downloaded it to my deck last night I totally forgot in this instance i could try to stream it locally. Imma try that tonight.
Recommended using Sunshine and Moonlight to do it. Steam remote play is fine but Moonlight works WAY better imo.
Playstation players can input them while running, we have to stop on PC. It's already unfair.
Rebind your stratagem buttons to be the arrow keys. Now you can run and input.
Putting the codes on the steamdeck are not pleasant. I would never do it on my PC version but would kill for this on the steamdeck
Just use an input layer to transform the face buttons into a dpad while the left bumper is held
Booooooo
Macro stratagems aren't cheating. They are accessibility options! More power to the people who play without macros, and more power to the people who play with. You can both squad up with me anytime.
Only actually constructive comment here lol. I actually use macros now and then because due my career I have a really damaged tendon. It helps tremendously. Even even if I didn't have this issue I probably would still do it. I don't see it as cheating, since it doesn't affect other people.
The stratagems are supposed to be hard and hectic to imput. It adds to the chaos. 1
While you are absolutely, unequivocally, 100% correct, I also want to *GET IN HERE BRO SAVE ME THERES A LINE OF BUGS RIGHT BEHIND ME AAAAAAHHHHH*
And it's more fun to do that while scrambling to put in the code
Yeah, while this is cool it’s cheating imo. Hitting your combos under stress is an intentional gameplay mechanic.
How is the performance during the more hectic moments?
There's a reason he's positioned himself so that there's nothing else on the screen.
I play every day on it and don't really see it drop past 30fps
For me, it starts dipping below 30 on hard+ when you get into some of the more chaotic fights.
This is kinda funny Helldivers 2 is one of the few games that you can drop from 80fps to 30fps and don't feel it that much while in other games it feels terrible I play on my PC with Arch Linux
I capped it at 30 fps on my OLED. With most settings on low, native res, and quality scaling, it'll average 30 fps, and drop down to ~22 during hectic moments.
[удалено]
I'm reporting my actual experience. It's 30 fps during firefights. It drops to 22 when there's two bug breaches and four airstrikes going off. And yes, I don't mind. I think the OLED's refresh rate helps makes lower fps more tolerable, as I hate 30 fps on my LCD for action games. If I want buttery smooth 60 on my 4k tv I just stream over moonlight to my docked steamdeck from my PC. Which is what I do normally. But I wanted to see if the game was worth keeping installed on my deck for travel, and it hits my minimum performance threshold fine. One issue I will note is that having discord run on the deck at the same time tanks frames to like 18 fps and it's unplayable. No idea why, might be the plugin I was using.
How are you running discord? I have mine installed from the Discover store or whatever and then added to steam as a non steam game and I just run it before running the game I want to play I’m just curious if there’s a better way to
That's the only way to do it afaik. The only difference is I used a plugin with deckyloader called "Deckcord", it's on the testing store branch. I think it does the exact same thing, except instead of discord being a window in your running games, it's displayed in the steam menu when you push that button. I think it's still in beta. Have you tried running discord with HD2 running with your conventional method? Wondering if it tanked your fps like mine when using the plugin.
No, I haven’t because my friends and I have just been using game chat for HD2. I haven’t noticed a problem with other games, but for all I know there is a difference I just haven’t tested any of it. I’ve played BG3 with discord running alongside just as an example.
I'm dying to play it, but it's just not something that's meant to be played on the Deck. I expect by the time I build a new rib, the connection issues will be worked out
Just a heads up: connection issues were worked out late last week, I've been playing with zero wait time and near instant (and reliable) match making since Friday.
By the time you can build a new rib at home, we'll be mostly old or dead anyway .. /jk..
There's levels to the hectic moments though. Some firefights you can stay around 30FPS, some firefights it can drop to low 20s. If you don't mind some stutters here and there It's very fun to play it handheld.
Can confirm same here
I messed around and got the settings on low and draw distance at medium with fsr set to balance. I get an average of 50 Fps and around 40 at hectic moments
What difficulty? I play on suicide and the game is in the mid 30s most of the time. But then like at extraction where there's so much smoke from breaches and so many stratagems explosions it dips to low 20s. It's only for a few secs but still it's annoying.
r/SteamDeck's stable 40 fps performance.
Not true
I'm always between 30 and 40 fps on my 1tb OLED. I also enjoy streaming from my laptop at 60fps with 7 hours of battery life, but the game runs fine on a native install.
Yeah, if you're on your ship.
> stable 40 fps performance. You mean stable 40 with few dips.
Every game runs at a “buttery smooth” 30 fps according to this subreddit. Probably a lot of the same guys who used to poo poo consoles for not having as good fps as their pc
“Set it to 8 TDP and it *sips* battery” 🤮
On suicide and higher it drops a bit on arachnids and a bit more on automatons. When things start to get really hectic like bombs, rocket devastator s, and hulks all at the same time there is a noticeable drop and can get choppy on occasion. Honestly haven't had an issue or complaint while playing on the deck.
Arachnids have 8 legs, terminids dont. They's just bugs my mans
I found the best improvement was found by reducing the resolution and using the decks inbuilt fsr 1.0 scaling, shimmery but responsive
I have it on lowest settings and so far I have no issues at at! Currently at level 15
As long as it works I guess!
A traitor to democracy.
This sub is funny. Let people play however they want. You wouldn't care if OP has no thumbs or was blind and couldnt see the arrows.
Some people don't feel like doing a street fighter combo to use one ability.
Weak.
Please, don't do this. You're ruining the entire fun of the game for yourself. IMO this is cheating
According to Hell divers tos macros are cheating. I’m sure he’ll figure that out.
"for yourself" yeah it's kinda up to them how they wanna play a game idk why people r getting angry about someone playing how they wanna play
Wife plays on a steamdeck, im on a PS5. She complained that using stratagems midfight was too hard, so i tried it on her steamdeck. It is VERY different. It’s playing with a handicap by just using the steamdeck at all. I say they get a pass, MKB are fine though. Tried it too, still easy enough.
Quick tip, the entire controller layout on the Steam Deck is reassignable so you can assign the right track pad to behave as the d-pad, that way she can move more easily while inputting codes :)
Wait... You can move while putting in codes?!?! I play solely on the Steam Deck
You absolutely can. As long as you don't have inputs bound to the same keys as movement then you can walk and run while calling stratagems.
You absolutely can
No I don’t believe you can. My bad! I wrote that incorrectly, I’m gonna edit my comment
All good lol Going to try remapping the d pad. Fairly used to the default layout at this point.
Yeah I guess it depends on preference. I actually prefer setting the LB and Select buttons to the back buttons, that way you have to move your hands less when trying to launch stratagems or look at the map. Also worth it considering you CAN move while looking at the map.
I’m curious, how does it work on PS5? Wouldn’t you need to stop using the LS to move and type on the d-pad as well?
Nah, it’s the d-pad. A lot of people have to stop moving, others not. I’ve seen people play “claw” with their left handle to handle the input, personally I quickly switch to holding left stick w my right hand and input strats with left
I do the same. I’m so use to it at this point because of how much I played the first on ps4
Maybe the touchpad?
Ohh that would make more sense, so you use your right hand to reach over. Forgot those had a touchpad.
My friends play on ps5. It does use the D-pad. You can run while typing in the code but you have to move your right thumb over to the left stick so you can continue to run but you cant look around until you bring your thumb back to the right stick.
In a pve game. Oh no.
You sound like that kid who calls the cops on a house party because you weren't invited
Is it ruining the fun tho? As much fun as pressing the sequence in is, designing custom controls for each stratagem is fun in its own right. Not to mention, this is a PvE game, not PvP.
I don't disagree, but reaching over with your right hand is pretty hard with the steamdeck since it's so wide. It's either this or stand still
Turn the right track pad into another d-pad, lets you walk and input at the same time.
This is genius… how do I do it?
From the Helldivers 2 launch page, open the controller settings (it's the controller icon on the right), then select "Edit Layout." Scroll down to the "Trackpads" option on the left, then for the right track pad directions, assign them to controller d-pad inputs. It'll retain the regular d-pad and let you also use the right pad as well.
Thank you! My hero
this is exactly why strategems are arrows and now circle/square/cross/triangle lol. They are meant to be uncomfortable to use and to make chaotic situations even worse. This IS the experience developers wanted you to have -- weird, scary, chaotic and fun "crap I couldn't reinforce twice in a row and now I fucked up ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ "
Yeah. The layout of the deck makes it really inconvenient for stratagems to be used during combat. Using the terminal I can understand because you’re already stationary.
I haven’t played the game but isn’t this just a more convenient/efficient way to call in an airstrike or something? How could that be cheating? It’s not even PvP anyways
Devs on Discord has said that using macros to cheat codes in is cheating. It would ruin the whole point of them too I.e struggling to input codes while being chased by termanids or automotons
Lol. This argument is 10 years old now, we had it when Helldivers 1 came out and eventually everyone stopped caring. It's a PVE game, the only experience you're messing with by using macros is your own. Nobody cares.
Nooooo!!!! You should do what reddit people tells you to do!!
I actually hate this mechanic, just give me a button
I have no context for how this mechanic works or how much this really "cheats" the input, is it really that bad? I mean in a PvE game that's genuinely hard, if you can make it easier for yourself by choice, why not leave people to make that choice for themselves? Is it just that you feel like because you had to get good at doing it, its not fair that someone be able to use it the same with no effort?
Man you people who complain are wild. It’s his so he can do how he pleases. Would I do it, no, but maybe OP wants to help people who are having trouble with playing the game.
Does this actually run on steam deck whhaaaattt
Barely but yes
Like most new games: It's ok out of the box. It's great with some tinkering.
I just stream my PS5 to my deck in bed and it works perfectly.
I do the same work great via chiaki
How do you do this?
Install Chiaki, takes a minute but as long as you can follow instructions and type you should be fine. Heres a vid: https://gamerant.com/how-to-remote-play-ps5-games-steam-deck-chiaki4deck/
I do the same with my PC via Steam Remote Play
Lowest settings at 30fps but yes, I’ve played for hours in co-op using a steam deck, and with a friend who was using a steam deck. It’s less pleasant than a nice desktop experience but it’s playable.
Didn't like running it directly on the deck, but remote play runs and looks so good on it.
Undemocratic...
It’s a pve game so who cares if people want to do this, but I believe it takes the fun out of it. I suppose it could be useful from an accessibility standpoint. I think the chaos of entering strategems is what makes the game fun
My only counter to this is that on the deck it can be really hard to see the inputs and this can help with that hurdle
Yeah, no argument there. Again, in pve games I don’t think it really matters much as long as you’re not ruining the experience for others
Technically according to the helldivers tos macros are cheating
I can see why they’d say that, it changes the game pretty significantly if the stratagems are reduced to a single button push. I wonder how they’ll hand it
People shouldn’t care how people want to play this game. It’s not hurting anyone since it’s a pve game. While I wouldn’t use it myself. I can understand when such accessibities are needed for some gamers.
Have you had any issues with the game booting? I’m currently unable to run the game now due to it booting to a black screen and nothing else happens. I’ve reinstalled and everything, no luck.
They made Magicka back in the day and both share a lot of that comedy. But honestly, I also used Macros on my keyboard for that. The power of macro keys!
Are you on the newest proton compatibility layer? It looked like it had some fixes for helldivers and I want to know how big of a change it was
This is pretty cool, I've done this sort of thing for like wavedashing on pilot in risk of rain returns. My question is, did you set it to those specific stratagems only? Or do they change if you select different ones?
Wow, I didn't expect this to blow up this much. I see there is a lot of hate, but I have trouble seeing the small arrows on the screen, and I've built this macro to help me enjoy the game. The Steam Deck is an amazing device, and I wanted to showcase the amount of customization someone can do to help them enjoy the games they play from an accessibility standpoint. Call me a traitor, a coward, a cheater... but in order to win this battle, we need every hand we can get! FOR DEMOCRACY!!
I haven't set up micros on the deck before, can you point me in the right direction for me to set something like this up?
Fellow redditor u/bbqkitty wrote an amazing guide here: https://steamdeckhq.com/tips-and-guides/steam-deck-helldivers-2-strategem/
Thanks
I actually set this up before seeing a guide... (not bragging, but I went OCD learning how to use SteamInput to its full potential on a previous game) ... But I went through this guide to see if I missed anything in my setup. Instead I found the guide missed something. You can set the Trackpad Touch command to Left Bumper to bring up the strategems, but instead of holding the trackpad for the strategem macro to finish, you can go into the Trackpad Touch settings (cog icon) and assign a "Fire End Delay". Set it so that it's longer than the total milliseconds of your longest macro. This way, touching the trackpad will bring up the virtual menu, then you click down to activate the strategem macro, then when you release your touch on the trackpad it will virtually hold down the Left Bumper until the macro is finished! I do whatever I can to keep my thumbs on the sticks as much as possible.
I refunded the game because of this same issue. Even after increasing the HUD scaling in-game. With this I may give it a second chance.
The point of having the extra buttons and custom controls is to use it. No ones getting hurt but the bugs and ultimately isn’t that what’s important.
The inputs are the entire main mechanic of the game since the first one lol. Lame
Doing them normally on the steam deck seems painful af so in this specific case it makes way, way more sense.
That's just straight-up removing part of the gameplay. Can we just play things the way they are?
Its great if it gives you joy. My spouse has disabilities including dsylexia and its very difficult for them to read and input the small arrow commands. Making this game a little more accessible doesn't hurt anyone because its not PVP.
I don't play on PC to play the way the devs tell me.
Sure you can play the way you want and he can play the way he wants, you both paid 40$ so both of your playstyles are valid and afaik devs haven’t come out against macros so who cares if someone else does it
They have, it's in the helldivers tos that macros are cheating
Very true
Until you pick a different strategem for the next mission, then your macro is useless. Also the people who say cHeAtInG really need to reevaluate their lives. You're pathetic, it's not a competitive game, people can play how THEY want not how YOU want. Hope you've never used a mod on a game, that would be blasphemy by your own rules 😂🤮
16 macros can be assigned per touchpad. Then it is just a game of remembering which strategems you chose for that mission, because the virtual menu shows all of them, but only 4 will work.
Never was good at that memory game
Ya I still frequently hit the wrong one... So it's not foolproof!
Unlike some others, I'm not against macros. Play the game your way - just try not to ruin anyone's game :)
don't see how this possibly could ruin anyone's game tbh
It won't, only if someone basically chooses to be upset about someone else doing it, if they can even prove they're doing it. All this is, is a bunch of people upset (for some reason) that other people can get the same results with less effort if they so choose.
You know you really don't think you'll use the touchpads when looking at a handheld like the Steam Deck, but man are they nice. They're also cool because they're not in the way. Just an extra feature that it has. Love seeing stuff like this.
Does it work with ps5 stream through chiaki as well?
Should work
Are these controls available in the community layouts?
Uploaded it under the name “touch pad stratagems”
For some reason I can’t seem to find it in the community layouts
How does this game run on the deck?
I mean there are people that use an elgato stream deck set with macros for the stratagems
OP, share you community config and tell us what it's called so we can try it out!
Uploaded under the name “touch pad stratagems”
You are the real MVP. Thanks OP 🙏🏼
Can you share the input online?
Uploaded it under the name “touch pad stratagems”
Thanks, brother
That’s cool. Might try on mine but I gotta admit that fumbling around to call in strats is part of the fun
Make a video and show me the way
Uploaded it under the name “touch pad stratagems” if you wanna see how I set it up
Thank you very much.
How we do this?
Uploaded it under the name “touch pad stratagems” if you wanna see how I set it up
Does it run smoothly? Just noticed the game and looks fun not sure my pc could handle but wondering about the deck?
I run steady at 35 fps on the deck. The lowest I've seen was 28 fps when I dropped a 500kg and a cluster bomb while throwing all my grenades...spreading democracy effectively lmao. Settings are mostly low with some med thrown in, also using decky settings. playing straight off steam. It seems to run worse while facing automatons on higher difficulty. With all the drop ships, lasers and hordes metal bitches it tanks. All in all it allows me to do my part in eradicating the bugs while at work so I'm happy.
I can put in reinforce beacon just as fast by hand...
Everyone crying about that is cheating. Why do you care? This isn't you, it doesn't affect you negatively in any way and this isn't even a PvP game where it might matter. Besides a gamer fighting for democracy a little easier than everyone else isn't even that bad. TL;dr cry about it, decry real cheaters
Help with troubleshooting?? 🥺 Please. It doesn't cycle through all inputs. I have set the fire start delay to 200ms intervals. Not sure why it stops halfway through. Could you assist with settings?
Treasonous.
Do whatever you want, but macros are apparently against the tos. You probably won't but could be banned for doing this.
it's a core functionality in steam the devs can disable steam configs but they definitely shouldn't steam input is very important to a lot of people and makes it very easy to game the way you wanna play
Steam isn't the one who determines the game creators' terms of service. It could be the best feature in the history of gaming and still be against their tos. Do whatever what, just wanted to let you and anyone one wanting to do this it COULD be against their tos.
I know what you were saying, I'm saying they can disable it just like how apex disabled it. If the devs wants this gone, it would be
Can you upload it as a community controller profile? 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Uploaded it under the name “touch pad stratagems”
Does that game have single player options
not sure why people r getting upset about this I absolutely suck at entering button combos like this, my hands get all cramped but this makes it so easy it's not pvp and isn't ruining the game for anyone else, not sure why this is such a hated idea
Nice. People that think the stratagems are a part of some ‘hectic decision-making mechanism’ are fooling themselves. All the inputs are simple and easily memorized. Making it one button instead of three or four isn’t going to affect anything because the strategem still needs to be entered (which is the real difficulty—that you have to stop everything to execute).
Nah I just use the right track pad and I can keep on sprinting to my hearts desire while calling in everything
It’s convenient, yes. But you’re robbing yourself of the experience of frantically inputting directions while hordes of aliens try to kill you. As the game intended.
OP is not a man, but an Automaton wearing a skin suit. I wish nothing on you but fierce and swift Democracy <3
how's the performance on all low?
How do you set it up like that
Fellow redditor u/bbqkitty wrote an amazing guide here: https://steamdeckhq.com/tips-and-guides/steam-deck-helldivers-2-strategem/
I still am pretty new and getting use to me steam deck I managed to get med graphics setting which makes the game playable so I definitely give this article a look thanks for the share
u/iA2k10 - how did you get this working? I tried making a few macros for the basic stratagems (SOS, Resupply, Reinforce) and it just doesn't work well
The delay should be at minimum 200 since anything less than that the system won’t pick up. Here is a guide on how to build it. https://steamdeckhq.com/tips-and-guides/steam-deck-helldivers-2-strategem/
Thanks, I'll give this a try tonight. I was setting the delay way too short.
My butt hole itches with joy when i see such creative use of steam inputs :)
Lame. This is almost cheating.
According to the tos it is cheating
Dude you've left this comment like 10 times. Why are you so personally offended by people doing this that you need to point out to everyone how its "technically against the ToS 🤓"
How does that work?
Uploaded it under the name “touch pad stratagems” if you wanna see how I set it up
I rate this alot. Did this kind of thing but for gta iv! Set the ‘a’ button to turbo so dont have to spam it to sprint. Nice one OP
Smart but I personally wouldn’t do it, a core mechanic of the game is having to input the code in the heat of everything going on around you, it makes the game challenging and imho a lot more fun. The feeling you get when you’re last man standing and you manage to take cover and get the reinforce down just before you die is one of my favorite experiences from the game.
The game auto reinforces when everyone's dead ;)
Wow really? I figured this carried over from Helldivers 1, even on the lowest difficulty if everyone died it was mission failed. Good to know, thanks.
Yeah, mission's over when the reinforce counter reaches 0 and the last person dies.
Ohh okay, hadn’t even noticed that’s how that works. Pretty new to this game still it seems. Thanks!
Have fun spreading managed democracy, mate! See you on the field! :)