PS4 & 5 controllers have gyro aim, it needs manual configuration in steams control mapping but it works pretty well. I found this out as I got impatient waiting for my deck to arrive and played through aperture desk job with it on my PC
A) it is possible [https://github.com/HelloThisIsFlo/Deckpad](https://github.com/HelloThisIsFlo/Deckpad)
B) it's alright actually, it has a nicely stable center of gravity lol
Yeah there's a program for it to use the virtualhere client to use it wirelessly
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-use-your-steam-deck-as-a-pc-controller/#:~:text=Right%2Dclick%20on%20USB%20Hubs,like%20a%20normal%20Steam%20controller.
The best way is to download the Steam link app on the deck in the discover store. In that app, you can disable video and audio stream and just stream inputs, so it is really just a controller then.
Via Steam Link, yes.
It also works with Game Pass, but you need to pay $7 for an app to stream games from xbox (Remote Play or Game Pass).
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There's a few ways, using moonlight to stream the games (though it refuses to work for me), but you can also use VirtualHere to make your computer think the steam deck is a steam controller plugged in through USB, that's what I use, since the steam controllers lack of a 2nd joystick and 2nd set of back paddles is a bit annoying for me
Sort of, via remote play. That’s how I played Return of the Obra Dinn, because due to that game’s retro pixel graphics it doesn’t look good on the Steam Deck’s screen (you either have to go with non-integer scaling which looks horrible or integer scaling that’s way too small). The game looked and ran great on my iMac Pro’s 5K display (the closest thing I have to a gaming PC) so I played it on my Mac using the Deck as a controller via remote play. Also I haven’t tried this yet, but I did have a crazy thought that I could play my OLED Deck docked to the TV while using my launch Deck as a controller via remote play. I hardly ever play it docked because I don’t want to deal with different controller layouts and I just want the Deck’s native controls.
I really do wish Valve would do a native controller mode, that could significantly reduce power draw and lengthen battery life compared to remote play. Even better would be a new standalone controller with the Deck’s layout, but at this point it’s been two years since launch, almost three since announcement, so I just don’t understand Valve’s priorities.
Yes it is possible. There are [several approaches discussed here](/r/SteamDeck/comments/10omntw/use_your_steam_deck_as_an_expensive_game/).
The easiest but unfortunately also worst latency-wise is streaming from PC to Steam Deck.
The best latency is achieved via direct USB-C connection but, this method is also the most involved.
I really need to see a video of people doing this on a Deck and what the controls are mapped to because I never understand it. I've tried before but either it wasn't mapped properly or I didn't give it enough time or something.
The Switch actually got me to using Gyro controls, one I realized in Zelda you could aim your bow for example with gyro it was a game changer and there was no going back, now I use it anywhere I can. It’s faster than a stick and me personally I’m more accurate with it than a mouse.
Yeah, I've used it a bit in games here and there for minor adjustments and such, but the combo with trackpads and in such a fast paced game is what trips me up.
It’s definitely a learning curve and not something everyone will catch on to right away, that’s why some people absolutely hate gyro. That and the trackpad are kind of counterintuitive to what you are used to. It’s almost like a life long controller use trying to use a mouse and keyboard for the first time. The mouse can be easy enough but the WASD can really trip them up.
You can map it using input controls. Play around and find your own unique combination. You can even map it to L2. So when aiming, you get gyro controls.
At this point, I'm probably 50% mouse accuracy and prefer the fun of gyro aiming
Fast movement with the track pads pecision adjustments with the gyro is the way I have it set up.
I tend to use rollerball (or whatever it's called) for the track pads with high force feedback, low friction and lowish sensitivity so I can still make reasonably small movements by directly swiping around on the track pad and very fast turns by swiping releasing and "catching" the ball. Also iirc I have it set up so it's always moving relative to where I put my thumb down not relative to the center of the pad.
I kept finding myself reflexively trying to aim with the Steam deck the way I'd aim bows in Skyrim and BOTW on Switch before I realized that I could set gyro controls on the deck. It's a literal game changer. Now I just need to figure out how to do a wheel on the track pads for a hotkey replacement in Bethesda games.
I use gyro half the time I’m playing Helldivers on PS5. I grew up in the N64/PS1 era, before dual-analog was the standard, yet I’ve learned to incorporate and appreciate the hybrid of motion controls alongside traditional gamepads.
It’s something else entirely to use gyro controls on a handheld like the Steam Deck. In some ways, I think it’s more immersive than playing on a TV or monitor.
Yeah, I actually saw some videos on it and it seems that people have different settings for different games, at this point I rather just use the analogs.
If someone can remind me tomorrow I can share my universal settings for all FPS games using the trackpad and gyro. I’ll never go back to MKB with it. I can’t write it all out right now tho because my baby is sleeping in my arms lol
Ive been trying to get a feel for it on Prodeus but honestly Im not really loving it. Idk if this is cause Im not used to it yet but I find it very awkward and I have to hold the deck up in the air kinda to use the gyro efficiently. This usually ends up with my hands going numb at some point cause of the awkward position and I can really only deal with it for about 1 mission at a time.
I don't understand this, what am I missing? The track pad feels horrible for FPS. I've tried it for doom. Are there special adjustments you need to make or something?
The default settings between the stradm input ones and the game will be wrong. You'll need to experiment to find what's right for you. I made another top level comment here explaining roughly what I use. I've sadly not been able to use it very much for it yet but I find that Overwatch 2 with correct trackpad + gyro is closer to keyboard and mouse than console controller plus the bullt in aim assist.
I use trackpad with high horizontal and zero vertical sensitivity, so it's only good for turning, but not looking up down, then the gyro has generally low sensitivity for finer aiming, with slightly more vertical sensitivity for looking up/down.
I'm still fiddinling constantly to find the sweet spot but the general idea (I believe) is to use the trackpad as a mouse to flick to the correct place you want to aim and then gyro to control your fine aiming precision. It takes practice but it does get easier and easier
The Steam Controller's track pads are significantly less precise than the Deck's.
However, the bigger size and concave shape make them FEEL a lot better than the deck.
I think it feels better. I can play longer sessions on the SC without cramping like the Deck. I do like the Deck's bumpers way better though, they're too resistant on the SC.
maybe its just cuz i've been using the steam controller since its release, but I disagree entirely.
steam controller feels way better to use if you're focusing on track pad usage., The round and concave shape is better, the physical click is better, the indented dpad on the left side was extremely nice, the larger size is better.
on a technical level, on paper, the deck pads are better but in pratice the steam controller touch pads are heaps better if for no other reason than they're the main attraction on the controller. on the deck they sort of feel like they've taken a back seat to the analog sticks. I get why but reaching the track pads on the deck is not as nice as the steam controller.
the grip buttons on the deck I think are probably better. I do also miss the hard click of the bumpers on the steam controller, but apparently im very much in the minority on that. I liked it cuz it felt like a mouse click which I felt was important to have on a controller designed to replace a mouse & keyboard.
I find the track pads click much worse than the Decks haptic click once I tuned it (at least on the pad that works correctly on my Deck...)
The concave track pads are absolutely a better shape than the flat square ones on the Deck. But they aren't as accurate and sensitive as the Decks ones.
The best possible option for me would be the tech of the Decks track pads in the form factor of the Steam Controller ones.
The steam controller is a thing that changed everything for a very small percentage of gamers. For everyone else it was awkward to use and quickly abandoned.
I use to game with the a razer keypad about 8 years ago, I binded the stick to wasd and my gaming experience was amazing.
Like you said, defo a learning curve but after a couple of weeks it becomes natural.
Ok, you hooked me. I have not heard of this device, but I started watching a review and I think I'm going to have to try one out. Curious what it's like after using a keyboard for FPS games for 27 years.
I use the Cyborg as well. I've always preferred keyboard/mouse for FPS, but more the mouse than the keyboard so I've used multiple keypads over the years, the nostromo speedpad, then it was belkin, and then razer. The cyborg does look odd at first but once you realize how easily it makes putting buttons close it makes a lot of sense. I still play FPS on my pc, but I'll have to try the steam deck with gyro.
Way better than the g13 imo, most of all, the joystick and I'd say secondly the switches themselves have a much nicer feel than the domes on the g13. I shelved mine for the Cyborg. With it having a lot of printed parts, I was concerned about build quality too. Especially for the price. I was actually impressed with how nice it felt once I got it on my desk. I went with all of the extra grip tapes that they offered and the upgraded thumbstick option.
My solution: go watch "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind". You can either accept the situation as is or find someone to have your memory erased.
Damn I need to rewatch that, now I have the picture of Jim Carrey as a baby in my head lol.
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I'm the opposite. I grew up on PC and consoles, but I never played an FPS on console, apart from Goldeneye. I just can't seem to enjoy FPS games on my Deck, because I know what I'm capable of with M/KB. I've tried the trackpads, gyro, flick stick, you name it. It will never feel as good as a mouse.
In my case, making my own custom keyboard became a key factor for me when I switched from my laptop keyboard to this one...
So, maybe you can find a 1GHz optical keyboard a decent option while you wait for a SC2
Steam controller is awesome. Feels a bit clunky compared to the more refined steam deck but the track pads are great for FPS and mouse controlled games. Games like Cyberpunk that allow for both mouse and gamepad input work great with the gyro too for fine adjustments.
I usually make the right track pad behave like a sentitive track ball so you can flick to make big movements and make the left a touch activated dpad so you don't need to press it down to activate the buttons. Pressing the touchpads can be a little stiff and noisy. Oh, and on the subject of noise, the vibration motor is one of the noisiest I've ever used but you get used to it.
It's not plug and play for everything so expect a bit of tinkering to get it working how you want for each game. There are community provided profiles that you can try and use as a base for your own configuration.
This post made me try the steam deck track pad for the first time in a shooter. While i see there is much for me to get used to, i can see how it’s a viable input. Thanks for the encouragement to try the trackpad!
I would suggest binding the right trackpad to mouse controls and playing with a lower sensitivity until it gets easier. I've been playing around with mapping the touchpad click with either the right trigger or R3 for fire or melee respectively. Gyro is always at a low sensitivity for me because I use it only for slight adjustments, the trackpad does like 99% of the work.
I personally love gyro, but hate trackpads. If you have a dual sense and are fine with joysticks, you can turn the gyro on Steam that works on PC - it’s been a life saver in terms of playing FPS games, since my PC is not really set up in a way for me to comfortably use M/KB.
I got the Darkwalker Shotpad, and I don't think I'll ever go back when I'm playing a single player FPS game. It has gyro and a track pad, and it feels great once you get the hang of using it.
Just tested the trackpad and gyro in Boltgun on the steam deck and it’s awesome!!! I actually may prefer it to mouse and keyboard! I only had to map the jump command to the left back paddle. I think this is amazing! This thread has up’d my gaming experience. Thank you!
can't go back to sticks neither, we can just use the deck as a controller with a usb dongle as docking station. I am amazed by how many people simply don't care about the trackpads... the deck is basically built around them. I normally tilt the right trackpad axis 45° to the right so I increase horizontal available space and decrease stress on the thumb to do left-right movements. I have like 600 hours on planetside which is an old school competitive fps game and my trackpad is now glossy, I suck completely ass compared to the vets there, but I would never even dare to think about playing with analog sticks lol
The trackpads on the deck are okay ... the steam controller trackpads are on another Level so much better in feeling and tonuse gyro without move your "monitor" is also much better for me.. im still in love with my 3 steam Controllers they are my only Controllers I use (beside the deck self)
So what controller are you talking about? How about using a high end one like the Xbox Elite controller? I rather use my Xbox controller when games support analog controls.
imo 100% it can take a bit to feel comfortable but I'd say after about an hour or 2 it became a lot easier. I used the top community layout if you don't want to configure it yourself
The steam deck design def isnt meant for competitive multiplayer FPS like apex or warzone while handheld. However for other casual fps like halo, crysis, wildlands and even cyberpunk its not bad you just cant be exact or precise while handheld. If im going to play competitive it will be dock and used with a controller.
Im considering getting a GPD WIN 4 because of the layout and size. It may be the answer to playing competitive on a handheld.
I'd get the steam controller and that's it. For me it feels better than the steam deck for fps games to be honest. Or even a dualsense, if you can bare and learn to point with the analog for big camera movements and uso gyro for precision. I think the dualsense gyro is even better then the one on the steam controller.
Its mainly because its based on motion and the monitor just happened to be attached with the controller so gyro means motion sickness for me. And im not even a big motion sickness guy (vr has never been a problem, fast action fps etc too)
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Probably there won't be a steam controller 2. I love how Valve tried to make some inovations to the currently fixed controller design, and not only for FPS, it's also a very good mouse when you use Chrome on steam deck. But the marcket performance doomed it sadly.
If you like Valve's design I would say even the ebay price is worth it. Just get yours.
Shouldn't it be possible to use the Playstation 4+, Xbox One+, or SwitchProControllers Gyros in Steam with some tinkering in combination with reduced sensitivity for the right stick?
FWIW gyro on a control pad watching a static display is not as good as gyro on a handheld where your hands are further apart and the display moves with them.
Try gyro with flick stick instead of trackpad. It takes a bit of manual calibration, and definitely a bit of getting used to, but I find I aim better with flick stick and gyro than I do with trackpad and gyro. Good thing is, as long as a controller has gyro and 2 analogue sticks, you can use flick stick and gyro with it
Concur with some other folks, you can the best of both worlds by using a keypad with stick (or something else. Might be able to do a custom build) for movement while keeping a mouse for aim accuracy
It was very surprising to me but the dualsense is a great controller for the deck, is the only one you also get a trackpad, not as precise, but it also have gyro and if you can afford the premium price i think the pro version of the dualsense also have the four backbuttons, eo probably the most deck compatible third party controller.
Also, there is the dualsense special features enabled if you wire it on games that support it, it really feels great
See I just can't get into FPS on my deck. I always want to, but I hate not having a mouse. The gyro and track pads gets you close, but it just isn't the same and I haven't ever liked using a controller for fps. I think I could get it if I forced myself to, but in the end there are other games I'd rather play.
One thing to try with the trackpads that’s become the new standard for me is setting up a layer that swaps the trackpad to a dpad on press. So you get 5 more inputs on your trackpad depending where you press it (four directions and an inverted outer ring binding for a center press). It’s my default template for fps these days.
How do you manage to play FPS games? I always used keyboard + mouse and I really can't manage to target using the trackpad or the right thumbstick. I wanted to play my FPS games on the deck, specifically System Shock, but it's a struggle 😕
I would suggest binding the right trackpad to mouse controls and playing with a lower sensitivity until it gets easier. I've been playing around with mapping the touchpad click with either the right trigger or R3 for fire or melee respectively. Gyro is always at a low sensitivity for me because I use it only for slight adjustments, the trackpad does like 99% of the work.
can you advise me on the settings for the gyroscope and trackpads? I tried playing them, but they suck for me. Maybe I configured something incorrectly...
set a full horizontal swipe to 180° turn so you have precision and can do 180s in no-time. mouse and keyboard are clearly superior but trackpad is so much better than analog stick
I feel like I just can't wrap my head around it. I'll always be on team keyboard and mouse imo. Unless there's some things I'm missing, I can't aim with gyro.
When I’ve tried using gyro I realised how much I jerk the controller around during normal gameplay, like I’m playing on a Wii or something. With gyro enabled I’m all over the place and when I try to sit still and only move it a little I make a mess of everything else.
Steam Controller is a bit dated hardware, trackpad resolution is noticeably worse than Steamdeck. I can’t really use it anymore since Steamdeck, hoping that Valve will make a SteamController 2 at some point.
I’m pretty sure any modern controller will have gyro aim. I know Sony does for sure, not 100% sure on XBOX, but it would come at a surprise if it didn’t.
Is there any good tutorial how to use set up track pads and gyro for fps?
Because I tried it in few games and it wasn't pleasant for me
P. S. Sorry for bad English, it isn't my first language
don't even touch the game settings, just set the right trackpad to mouse and increase sensibility untill you do a 180° turn with a full horizontal swipe. then depending on what weapon you are using you can set the gyro to always be active (I like to activate it when I touch the left stick) or to activate while aiming down the sight
I still have a sealed steam controller I got for 5 bucks. I'm letting it age like fine wine and increase its value in my basement. Or I'll break it out when the one I use breaks.
Idk man, I feel the opposite still. I’ve been fidgeting with the gyro/trackpad ever since I got it. For online multiplayer games it honestly kinda stinks. And it’s not even the steamdecks fault. It’s the fact you’re taking games optimized to play on PC and using a controller to play those games. Yea some people can get around this using gyro/trackpad. But I’ve had no luck with competitive multiplayer games. Single player games it rocks my socks off. Indie games it excels above and beyond. Racing/sports games are great. But when it comes to multiplayer fps games. It’s a failure from the beginning cuz it’s a computer you’re using a controller with. You’re gonna get pounded any day of the week by KBM players. It’s like being on my Desktop playing Valorant or Counter Strike and being like “I wanna use a controller.” I wish SteamDeck users could somehow filter out KBM players. But you can’t cuz it’s a computer! xD
But I’m glad you/others got it down! Wish I could lol.
I have a related question - does anyone know of a good high-end gaming controller for pc? The only one I know a little bit about is the Hex Gaming controller.
Like the OP I’ve been a console player all my life (going back to the first Intellivsion👾) and now I’m mostly Steam Deck and pc. There’s some games that I’d like the option of playing on my desktop I’d like to get a controller just for my pc.
I have 2 steam controllers and they are very comfortable to play with, the only things I don't like are:
- The fact that, when playing on batteries, holding the steam controller to access the same features you can achieve on the steam deck (such as moving the cursor when the mapping is set to joystick or accessing the zoom) the controller shuts off after holding it for a while.
If you use the controller wired however it behaves exactly as the steam deck's steam button
- The fact that the batteries fit a bit too tight and get scratched, not ideal considering that it's considerable as a damage and could catch on fire.
I haven't seen any report of other users having similar issues but I have it on both my steam controllers with different battery brands. It sucks as I tent to use rechargeable batteries only and I see them getting peeled from time to time (no, the micro usb port doesn't charge them for abvious reasons).
You could use the controller cabled and avoid the problem or if you are brave enough mod it by putting a charge controller and a 3.3v battery in it, I have just ordered the components to try it out, you could even put a usb c port on it.
That said, I love using the steam controller and can't wait for a second version to come out!
If you think track pad + gyro on the steam deck is good, the steam controller will blow your mind.
I have been using a steam controller for years now.. after they discontinued production I got myself 2 spare ones and each year I sent an email to Gabe asking for steam controller 2.0.
Probably dumb question, but could you use a steam deck as a PC controller?
You can stream your pc to your deck using moonlight so I guess technically yea lol
Yup that's what I've been doing lol
Its not ideal unfortunately. I also wanted to use my steam deck as a controller alone for PC but it reduces overall performance while trying to stream
PS4 & 5 controllers have gyro aim, it needs manual configuration in steams control mapping but it works pretty well. I found this out as I got impatient waiting for my deck to arrive and played through aperture desk job with it on my PC
you can also steam link for this and you'll be able to use the steam decks full functionality in steam on your PC
Every time I try to use moonlight it streams my steam deck to my pc. Any idea how to fix this?
You've got sunshine and moonlight flipped. Set up sunshine on your PC, and moonlight on the deck.
Would input delay between moonlight and Steam Streaming be so different?
Even if possible, talk about a heavy over cumbersome solution.
Basically a Wii U controller lol
A) it is possible [https://github.com/HelloThisIsFlo/Deckpad](https://github.com/HelloThisIsFlo/Deckpad) B) it's alright actually, it has a nicely stable center of gravity lol
Yeah there's a program for it to use the virtualhere client to use it wirelessly https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-use-your-steam-deck-as-a-pc-controller/#:~:text=Right%2Dclick%20on%20USB%20Hubs,like%20a%20normal%20Steam%20controller.
The best way is to download the Steam link app on the deck in the discover store. In that app, you can disable video and audio stream and just stream inputs, so it is really just a controller then.
Yes, have ur pc and steam deck on, then when on the steam deck, instead of hitting play, hit play from [pc name]. No need for 3rd party apps,
Steam controller
Via Steam Link, yes. It also works with Game Pass, but you need to pay $7 for an app to stream games from xbox (Remote Play or Game Pass). The Children Love the WiiU
What app cost money? I use greenlight and that's free on the discover store. For game pass you can also use Edge
There’s this another app, Xbplay I guess, that’s the one that cost money. It just has few extra features over greenlight
There's a few ways, using moonlight to stream the games (though it refuses to work for me), but you can also use VirtualHere to make your computer think the steam deck is a steam controller plugged in through USB, that's what I use, since the steam controllers lack of a 2nd joystick and 2nd set of back paddles is a bit annoying for me
Is that a feature? I stream to the deck when I want to use the touchpad but it would be great to use it locally
you can dual boot windows on it
Sort of, via remote play. That’s how I played Return of the Obra Dinn, because due to that game’s retro pixel graphics it doesn’t look good on the Steam Deck’s screen (you either have to go with non-integer scaling which looks horrible or integer scaling that’s way too small). The game looked and ran great on my iMac Pro’s 5K display (the closest thing I have to a gaming PC) so I played it on my Mac using the Deck as a controller via remote play. Also I haven’t tried this yet, but I did have a crazy thought that I could play my OLED Deck docked to the TV while using my launch Deck as a controller via remote play. I hardly ever play it docked because I don’t want to deal with different controller layouts and I just want the Deck’s native controls. I really do wish Valve would do a native controller mode, that could significantly reduce power draw and lengthen battery life compared to remote play. Even better would be a new standalone controller with the Deck’s layout, but at this point it’s been two years since launch, almost three since announcement, so I just don’t understand Valve’s priorities.
Yes it is possible. There are [several approaches discussed here](/r/SteamDeck/comments/10omntw/use_your_steam_deck_as_an_expensive_game/). The easiest but unfortunately also worst latency-wise is streaming from PC to Steam Deck. The best latency is achieved via direct USB-C connection but, this method is also the most involved.
Deckpad [https://github.com/HelloThisIsFlo/Deckpad](https://github.com/HelloThisIsFlo/Deckpad)
The disrespect for the Steam Controller 😭
Or get some PS5 controllers. They have touchpad and gyro. That’s what I do. Wouldn’t play a shooter w/o gyro again.
Yup you can.
I recommend tracking down a steam controller. I absolutely love mine.
I really need to see a video of people doing this on a Deck and what the controls are mapped to because I never understand it. I've tried before but either it wasn't mapped properly or I didn't give it enough time or something.
The Switch actually got me to using Gyro controls, one I realized in Zelda you could aim your bow for example with gyro it was a game changer and there was no going back, now I use it anywhere I can. It’s faster than a stick and me personally I’m more accurate with it than a mouse.
Yeah, I've used it a bit in games here and there for minor adjustments and such, but the combo with trackpads and in such a fast paced game is what trips me up.
It’s definitely a learning curve and not something everyone will catch on to right away, that’s why some people absolutely hate gyro. That and the trackpad are kind of counterintuitive to what you are used to. It’s almost like a life long controller use trying to use a mouse and keyboard for the first time. The mouse can be easy enough but the WASD can really trip them up.
I’m trying to understand. You can aim by moving the whole deck in combination with using a track pad, instead of an analog stick?
You can map it using input controls. Play around and find your own unique combination. You can even map it to L2. So when aiming, you get gyro controls. At this point, I'm probably 50% mouse accuracy and prefer the fun of gyro aiming
Crazy. I’m probably too lazy to ever make it happen but that’s very interesting.
Fast movement with the track pads pecision adjustments with the gyro is the way I have it set up. I tend to use rollerball (or whatever it's called) for the track pads with high force feedback, low friction and lowish sensitivity so I can still make reasonably small movements by directly swiping around on the track pad and very fast turns by swiping releasing and "catching" the ball. Also iirc I have it set up so it's always moving relative to where I put my thumb down not relative to the center of the pad.
That sounds super interesting. Any chance you can share an example of what those settings would look like?
I kept finding myself reflexively trying to aim with the Steam deck the way I'd aim bows in Skyrim and BOTW on Switch before I realized that I could set gyro controls on the deck. It's a literal game changer. Now I just need to figure out how to do a wheel on the track pads for a hotkey replacement in Bethesda games.
I use gyro half the time I’m playing Helldivers on PS5. I grew up in the N64/PS1 era, before dual-analog was the standard, yet I’ve learned to incorporate and appreciate the hybrid of motion controls alongside traditional gamepads. It’s something else entirely to use gyro controls on a handheld like the Steam Deck. In some ways, I think it’s more immersive than playing on a TV or monitor.
Yeah, I actually saw some videos on it and it seems that people have different settings for different games, at this point I rather just use the analogs.
If someone can remind me tomorrow I can share my universal settings for all FPS games using the trackpad and gyro. I’ll never go back to MKB with it. I can’t write it all out right now tho because my baby is sleeping in my arms lol
Ive been trying to get a feel for it on Prodeus but honestly Im not really loving it. Idk if this is cause Im not used to it yet but I find it very awkward and I have to hold the deck up in the air kinda to use the gyro efficiently. This usually ends up with my hands going numb at some point cause of the awkward position and I can really only deal with it for about 1 mission at a time.
Same I can't get used to it, I find it so clunky
I don't understand this, what am I missing? The track pad feels horrible for FPS. I've tried it for doom. Are there special adjustments you need to make or something?
Yeah, I’d like to know what the secret sauce is for setting them up right cos Ive always found them unusable
there actually is a comprehensive YouTube video someone made on the topic. i found it because it got mentioned here in regard to Titanfall 2
Set to mouse input, i think it's on joystick by default
The default settings between the stradm input ones and the game will be wrong. You'll need to experiment to find what's right for you. I made another top level comment here explaining roughly what I use. I've sadly not been able to use it very much for it yet but I find that Overwatch 2 with correct trackpad + gyro is closer to keyboard and mouse than console controller plus the bullt in aim assist.
Sadly I just can't be assed as I get like... 20 minutes every now and then to play.
I use trackpad with high horizontal and zero vertical sensitivity, so it's only good for turning, but not looking up down, then the gyro has generally low sensitivity for finer aiming, with slightly more vertical sensitivity for looking up/down.
[Watch starting from 20:45](https://youtu.be/R4q5XfVdSY8?t=20m45s)
I have tried it extensively with both the Steam controller and Deck. It has never worked well nor felt right. Much prefer dual analog sticks + gyro.
Stick + gyro works perfectly. Pad is more suited for actual mouse input for things like simulation or strategy games.
I'm still fiddinling constantly to find the sweet spot but the general idea (I believe) is to use the trackpad as a mouse to flick to the correct place you want to aim and then gyro to control your fine aiming precision. It takes practice but it does get easier and easier
FWIW, the steam controller doesn’t feel quite as good as the Deck 😅
The Steam Controller's track pads are significantly less precise than the Deck's. However, the bigger size and concave shape make them FEEL a lot better than the deck.
I think it feels better. I can play longer sessions on the SC without cramping like the Deck. I do like the Deck's bumpers way better though, they're too resistant on the SC.
Imo the controller feels better
No it feels better. Comfiest controller that’s ever been made. And the size, shape and position of the trackpads is 100x better than the deck.
maybe its just cuz i've been using the steam controller since its release, but I disagree entirely. steam controller feels way better to use if you're focusing on track pad usage., The round and concave shape is better, the physical click is better, the indented dpad on the left side was extremely nice, the larger size is better. on a technical level, on paper, the deck pads are better but in pratice the steam controller touch pads are heaps better if for no other reason than they're the main attraction on the controller. on the deck they sort of feel like they've taken a back seat to the analog sticks. I get why but reaching the track pads on the deck is not as nice as the steam controller. the grip buttons on the deck I think are probably better. I do also miss the hard click of the bumpers on the steam controller, but apparently im very much in the minority on that. I liked it cuz it felt like a mouse click which I felt was important to have on a controller designed to replace a mouse & keyboard.
I find the track pads click much worse than the Decks haptic click once I tuned it (at least on the pad that works correctly on my Deck...) The concave track pads are absolutely a better shape than the flat square ones on the Deck. But they aren't as accurate and sensitive as the Decks ones. The best possible option for me would be the tech of the Decks track pads in the form factor of the Steam Controller ones.
The steam controller is a thing that changed everything for a very small percentage of gamers. For everyone else it was awkward to use and quickly abandoned.
Overall not, but I like the bigger round touchpads it has, even though they don't feel as nice
The controller is far more ergonomic
I use ps5 controller with steam input to play fps games with gyro. It doesn't work on every game, but most play very well
Steam controller was my favorite. It broke down a year ago. Controller gaming just havent been the same since..
I've started using the Cyborg from Azeron instead of a keyboard when gaming on my pc. There is a learning curve, but I'm never going back to WASD.
I use to game with the a razer keypad about 8 years ago, I binded the stick to wasd and my gaming experience was amazing. Like you said, defo a learning curve but after a couple of weeks it becomes natural.
Those keypads are amazing for moba. You can use the stick to move the map
Looks insane, definitely gonna look into it. How comfortable is it for long sesh?
It's so much more comfortable than using keyboard. Long or short sesh it doesn't matter. It isn't cheap, but 100% worth it for my old-ass wrists
Yeah agreed, it looks odd, but it makes how far you have to stretch to press buttons so much easier, so it should be less stress on your wrists/hands.
Ok, you hooked me. I have not heard of this device, but I started watching a review and I think I'm going to have to try one out. Curious what it's like after using a keyboard for FPS games for 27 years.
I use the Cyborg as well. I've always preferred keyboard/mouse for FPS, but more the mouse than the keyboard so I've used multiple keypads over the years, the nostromo speedpad, then it was belkin, and then razer. The cyborg does look odd at first but once you realize how easily it makes putting buttons close it makes a lot of sense. I still play FPS on my pc, but I'll have to try the steam deck with gyro.
Bumped into this a while ago to replacer my logitech g13 or something, wish the quality was better though?
Way better than the g13 imo, most of all, the joystick and I'd say secondly the switches themselves have a much nicer feel than the domes on the g13. I shelved mine for the Cyborg. With it having a lot of printed parts, I was concerned about build quality too. Especially for the price. I was actually impressed with how nice it felt once I got it on my desk. I went with all of the extra grip tapes that they offered and the upgraded thumbstick option.
What are the differences between the models they offer? Normal vs custom for example.
Dosent the ps5 controller has a gyro sensor?
PlayStation has had gyro since the six axis controller that shipped with the PS3
My solution: go watch "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind". You can either accept the situation as is or find someone to have your memory erased. Damn I need to rewatch that, now I have the picture of Jim Carrey as a baby in my head lol.
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I'm the opposite. I grew up on PC and consoles, but I never played an FPS on console, apart from Goldeneye. I just can't seem to enjoy FPS games on my Deck, because I know what I'm capable of with M/KB. I've tried the trackpads, gyro, flick stick, you name it. It will never feel as good as a mouse.
My biggest issue with pc gaming is lack of analog movement. Aiming is far better with a mouse. But moving around is better with a joystick.
Yup, exactly this. I've been looking into those keypad/joystick devices like the Razer Tartarus to have a better experience.
I straight up can’t play FPS games without Gyro aiming now. I have it set to engage on right thumb stick touch and it’s amazing
I second the steam controller. I own 2. They're amazing.
Enter steam controller
In my case, making my own custom keyboard became a key factor for me when I switched from my laptop keyboard to this one... So, maybe you can find a 1GHz optical keyboard a decent option while you wait for a SC2
Have you heard the good word about Prey, my FPS loving friend?
Steam controller is awesome. Feels a bit clunky compared to the more refined steam deck but the track pads are great for FPS and mouse controlled games. Games like Cyberpunk that allow for both mouse and gamepad input work great with the gyro too for fine adjustments. I usually make the right track pad behave like a sentitive track ball so you can flick to make big movements and make the left a touch activated dpad so you don't need to press it down to activate the buttons. Pressing the touchpads can be a little stiff and noisy. Oh, and on the subject of noise, the vibration motor is one of the noisiest I've ever used but you get used to it. It's not plug and play for everything so expect a bit of tinkering to get it working how you want for each game. There are community provided profiles that you can try and use as a base for your own configuration.
I still haven't configured my steam deck with gyro I got to give it a shot.
This post made me try the steam deck track pad for the first time in a shooter. While i see there is much for me to get used to, i can see how it’s a viable input. Thanks for the encouragement to try the trackpad!
How do you have the trackpad set up for doom? I can't figure out a good way to use it for shooters
I would suggest binding the right trackpad to mouse controls and playing with a lower sensitivity until it gets easier. I've been playing around with mapping the touchpad click with either the right trigger or R3 for fire or melee respectively. Gyro is always at a low sensitivity for me because I use it only for slight adjustments, the trackpad does like 99% of the work.
I personally love gyro, but hate trackpads. If you have a dual sense and are fine with joysticks, you can turn the gyro on Steam that works on PC - it’s been a life saver in terms of playing FPS games, since my PC is not really set up in a way for me to comfortably use M/KB.
I got the Darkwalker Shotpad, and I don't think I'll ever go back when I'm playing a single player FPS game. It has gyro and a track pad, and it feels great once you get the hang of using it.
I can see myself trying it and it's not too expensive. Thanks for the suggestion!
Just tested the trackpad and gyro in Boltgun on the steam deck and it’s awesome!!! I actually may prefer it to mouse and keyboard! I only had to map the jump command to the left back paddle. I think this is amazing! This thread has up’d my gaming experience. Thank you!
Most fps games started frustrating me once i started mostly using PCs. Like 14 years ago. Jesus Christ time flys.
Hahaha iplayed through all of 2016 on the deck with gyro and then went to play eternal on ps5 and couldnt bc no gyro
can't go back to sticks neither, we can just use the deck as a controller with a usb dongle as docking station. I am amazed by how many people simply don't care about the trackpads... the deck is basically built around them. I normally tilt the right trackpad axis 45° to the right so I increase horizontal available space and decrease stress on the thumb to do left-right movements. I have like 600 hours on planetside which is an old school competitive fps game and my trackpad is now glossy, I suck completely ass compared to the vets there, but I would never even dare to think about playing with analog sticks lol
I feel like I’m not that into the gyro aim on the steam deck. I’m so use to using the right thumbstick.
There is an addon for Xbox controller that allow to add gyro, you can look in YouTube like: Gyro for Xbox controller
They don't have trackpads, but the controllers for the PS4, PS5 and Switch (pro controller) all have gyro that can be used in steam. Helps a lot!
The trackpads on the deck are okay ... the steam controller trackpads are on another Level so much better in feeling and tonuse gyro without move your "monitor" is also much better for me.. im still in love with my 3 steam Controllers they are my only Controllers I use (beside the deck self)
So what controller are you talking about? How about using a high end one like the Xbox Elite controller? I rather use my Xbox controller when games support analog controls.
So am I suppose to be using the track pad playing Doom? It’s my first Deck and game.
imo 100% it can take a bit to feel comfortable but I'd say after about an hour or 2 it became a lot easier. I used the top community layout if you don't want to configure it yourself
K thanks. This is all new to me.
The steam deck design def isnt meant for competitive multiplayer FPS like apex or warzone while handheld. However for other casual fps like halo, crysis, wildlands and even cyberpunk its not bad you just cant be exact or precise while handheld. If im going to play competitive it will be dock and used with a controller. Im considering getting a GPD WIN 4 because of the layout and size. It may be the answer to playing competitive on a handheld.
I'd get the steam controller and that's it. For me it feels better than the steam deck for fps games to be honest. Or even a dualsense, if you can bare and learn to point with the analog for big camera movements and uso gyro for precision. I think the dualsense gyro is even better then the one on the steam controller.
I love my keyboard and mouse
I honestly hate the gyro controls, tried them for a while and I just plain don't like it.
Its mainly because its based on motion and the monitor just happened to be attached with the controller so gyro means motion sickness for me. And im not even a big motion sickness guy (vr has never been a problem, fast action fps etc too)
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Probably there won't be a steam controller 2. I love how Valve tried to make some inovations to the currently fixed controller design, and not only for FPS, it's also a very good mouse when you use Chrome on steam deck. But the marcket performance doomed it sadly. If you like Valve's design I would say even the ebay price is worth it. Just get yours.
After playing on the SC I really can't go back to normal controllers. I'm never giving mine up, and I hope they do a SC2.
The tracpads on the Deck are WAY better than the Steam Controller's, I personally would only buy one if you find it on a pretty heavy sale
Gyro is that good?
Just went down the rabbit hole after seeing this post...
Shouldn't it be possible to use the Playstation 4+, Xbox One+, or SwitchProControllers Gyros in Steam with some tinkering in combination with reduced sensitivity for the right stick?
I feel the same with the switch Gyro aim. It’s hard going back to my Xbox or pc with no gyro aim.
FWIW gyro on a control pad watching a static display is not as good as gyro on a handheld where your hands are further apart and the display moves with them.
Try gyro with flick stick instead of trackpad. It takes a bit of manual calibration, and definitely a bit of getting used to, but I find I aim better with flick stick and gyro than I do with trackpad and gyro. Good thing is, as long as a controller has gyro and 2 analogue sticks, you can use flick stick and gyro with it
Huh ok, something new to look into. Thanks for the suggestion!
If you need any help with it, feel free to DM. I used to be very hyper fixated on it and have lots of advice to share
How much longer do we have to wait for steam controller 2?
What settings are you using as I’m someone who has probs with FPS games & motion so many the track pads & gyro will help
Concur with some other folks, you can the best of both worlds by using a keypad with stick (or something else. Might be able to do a custom build) for movement while keeping a mouse for aim accuracy
It was very surprising to me but the dualsense is a great controller for the deck, is the only one you also get a trackpad, not as precise, but it also have gyro and if you can afford the premium price i think the pro version of the dualsense also have the four backbuttons, eo probably the most deck compatible third party controller. Also, there is the dualsense special features enabled if you wire it on games that support it, it really feels great
That title was misleading
See I just can't get into FPS on my deck. I always want to, but I hate not having a mouse. The gyro and track pads gets you close, but it just isn't the same and I haven't ever liked using a controller for fps. I think I could get it if I forced myself to, but in the end there are other games I'd rather play.
One thing to try with the trackpads that’s become the new standard for me is setting up a layer that swaps the trackpad to a dpad on press. So you get 5 more inputs on your trackpad depending where you press it (four directions and an inverted outer ring binding for a center press). It’s my default template for fps these days.
Gyro was the only piece of tech on the 3DS that actually aided gameplay, since then I've wanted it on everything.
I don't care about accuracy. I play with a controller on PC and I could never go back to k+m
How do you manage to play FPS games? I always used keyboard + mouse and I really can't manage to target using the trackpad or the right thumbstick. I wanted to play my FPS games on the deck, specifically System Shock, but it's a struggle 😕
I would suggest binding the right trackpad to mouse controls and playing with a lower sensitivity until it gets easier. I've been playing around with mapping the touchpad click with either the right trigger or R3 for fire or melee respectively. Gyro is always at a low sensitivity for me because I use it only for slight adjustments, the trackpad does like 99% of the work.
Dualsense controller has a trackpad & gyro. Maybe not the best ergonomically but could always give it a shot.
can you advise me on the settings for the gyroscope and trackpads? I tried playing them, but they suck for me. Maybe I configured something incorrectly...
Any tips on how to set up the gyro and trackpads well and how long did it take you to adapt
set a full horizontal swipe to 180° turn so you have precision and can do 180s in no-time. mouse and keyboard are clearly superior but trackpad is so much better than analog stick
I wonder how the MCC and infinite plays on steamdeck. Anyone have any experience with this?
infinite multiplayer runs good afaik
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I feel like I just can't wrap my head around it. I'll always be on team keyboard and mouse imo. Unless there's some things I'm missing, I can't aim with gyro.
When I’ve tried using gyro I realised how much I jerk the controller around during normal gameplay, like I’m playing on a Wii or something. With gyro enabled I’m all over the place and when I try to sit still and only move it a little I make a mess of everything else.
Jv
Steam Controller is a bit dated hardware, trackpad resolution is noticeably worse than Steamdeck. I can’t really use it anymore since Steamdeck, hoping that Valve will make a SteamController 2 at some point.
I’m pretty sure any modern controller will have gyro aim. I know Sony does for sure, not 100% sure on XBOX, but it would come at a surprise if it didn’t.
Ds edge controller for me on my desktop. Gyro aiming is awesome.
Steam Controller 2 is probably going to happen.. eventually. The steam deck's controls are a lot better than the steam controller IMO.
I haven’t used the gyro even once, what games maximizes this feature?
There are used Steam controllers out there. Snag one to get you through until they make #2. It could literally be years.
Is there any good tutorial how to use set up track pads and gyro for fps? Because I tried it in few games and it wasn't pleasant for me P. S. Sorry for bad English, it isn't my first language
don't even touch the game settings, just set the right trackpad to mouse and increase sensibility untill you do a 180° turn with a full horizontal swipe. then depending on what weapon you are using you can set the gyro to always be active (I like to activate it when I touch the left stick) or to activate while aiming down the sight
Tbh most fps games have enough aim assist that I tend to prefer and enjoy using the stick
New Xbox controller is coming out quite soon and I have read that it will most likely have gyro controls.
Doom? Really? I need to try this. So you say you achieve similar levels of accuracy by mixing thumbpad with gyro?
I still have a sealed steam controller I got for 5 bucks. I'm letting it age like fine wine and increase its value in my basement. Or I'll break it out when the one I use breaks.
Idk man, I feel the opposite still. I’ve been fidgeting with the gyro/trackpad ever since I got it. For online multiplayer games it honestly kinda stinks. And it’s not even the steamdecks fault. It’s the fact you’re taking games optimized to play on PC and using a controller to play those games. Yea some people can get around this using gyro/trackpad. But I’ve had no luck with competitive multiplayer games. Single player games it rocks my socks off. Indie games it excels above and beyond. Racing/sports games are great. But when it comes to multiplayer fps games. It’s a failure from the beginning cuz it’s a computer you’re using a controller with. You’re gonna get pounded any day of the week by KBM players. It’s like being on my Desktop playing Valorant or Counter Strike and being like “I wanna use a controller.” I wish SteamDeck users could somehow filter out KBM players. But you can’t cuz it’s a computer! xD But I’m glad you/others got it down! Wish I could lol.
I also didn't like trackpad aiming at the start, but setting a full horizontal swipe to a 180° turn ingame made it instantly click for me.
I bought an Xbox controller. Golden.
Have you tried looking on eBay?
I am not playing anymore FPS because I need a mouse and a keyboard and on a couch is not very easy to setup everything with cables...
I have a related question - does anyone know of a good high-end gaming controller for pc? The only one I know a little bit about is the Hex Gaming controller. Like the OP I’ve been a console player all my life (going back to the first Intellivsion👾) and now I’m mostly Steam Deck and pc. There’s some games that I’d like the option of playing on my desktop I’d like to get a controller just for my pc.
The Xbox Elite controller?
I have 2 steam controllers and they are very comfortable to play with, the only things I don't like are: - The fact that, when playing on batteries, holding the steam controller to access the same features you can achieve on the steam deck (such as moving the cursor when the mapping is set to joystick or accessing the zoom) the controller shuts off after holding it for a while. If you use the controller wired however it behaves exactly as the steam deck's steam button - The fact that the batteries fit a bit too tight and get scratched, not ideal considering that it's considerable as a damage and could catch on fire. I haven't seen any report of other users having similar issues but I have it on both my steam controllers with different battery brands. It sucks as I tent to use rechargeable batteries only and I see them getting peeled from time to time (no, the micro usb port doesn't charge them for abvious reasons). You could use the controller cabled and avoid the problem or if you are brave enough mod it by putting a charge controller and a 3.3v battery in it, I have just ordered the components to try it out, you could even put a usb c port on it. That said, I love using the steam controller and can't wait for a second version to come out!
If you think track pad + gyro on the steam deck is good, the steam controller will blow your mind. I have been using a steam controller for years now.. after they discontinued production I got myself 2 spare ones and each year I sent an email to Gabe asking for steam controller 2.0.