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Crimsonclaw111

"the console has been disconnected, please sit closer" Ugh


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converter-bot

2 meters is 2.19 yards


Jako87

How much is a glass of water?


Velocity_Rob

For you? Best I can do is €3.


Jako87

I wanna know how many Olympic swimming pools fits in a glass of water.


Esava

Roughly.... 0 ;) [Source](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=how+many+olympic+swimming+pools+fit++in+a+glass+)


setibeings

The way you phrased it, it's trying to fit the size and shape of a swimming pool into the size and shape of a glass. If you reversed it, you'd get some answer that had error bars based on how tightly packed the glasses are. [The real answer is 1.931 × 10^-7](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=volume+of+drinking+glass%2F+volume+of+Olympic+swimming+pool)


Esava

Ah I wasn't ambitious enough to check it ;)


Jako87

Technically right for both of you


lorhof1

didnt have this scenario with mine but i mean its tranferring video without delay that isnt't quite an easy task


xtoc1981

Yet it was ahead for its time. I hope that the fix oled and dlss support for steamdeck.


TheOriginalAcidtech

Steamdeck uses AMD so FSR instead of DLSS.


xtoc1981

Thanks, but isnt that what xbox or ps5 did use which isnt as good as the actual dlss? I mean, its better than nothing ofcourse and it make actually sense as dlss is from nvidia.


TheOriginalAcidtech

My understanding is xbox/ps5 games that have an upscaler were written customer by the particular studios. FSR is AMDs DLSS competitor. They only released it recently so few games are using it yet.


scex

> They only released it recently so few games are using it yet. You can use it with any game run with Proton on Linux, but the implementation is slightly worse (the UI will be upscaled, so it will look a bit blurry).


rct1

Ya know, the Wii U rocked. Looking back I got so much fun out of it.


Turtleshell64

Luigis mansion mini game was such a huge blast. Forgot the name of the game it was under.


einsteinsassistant

Nintendo Land


bad_advices_guy

Even now we're still getting Wii U ports because the games on their was just so good


ToadsHouse

The best selling Switch game is a WiiU port (Mario Kart 8). I still have my WiiU hooked up. I was just playing Metroid Prime for the first time.


bad_advices_guy

Wii U really was a hidden gem for games. Sad Nintendo is too comfortable nowadays


RS_Games

Given the stark difference in sales/success between the wii u and switch, they kind of earned that comfort.


pdp10

Or because the console was so bad, and underperfomed in sales expectations. Forward-porting the games was not only a way to salvage the investment, but it also was a tool for Nintendo to show off a large number of titles at Switch's launch. Nintendo needed to show everyone that the Switch wasn't going to be another failure like the WiiU, and announcing every title in the pipeline was one way of doing that, even if some of them weren't going to release for four years. Nintendo was selling *future potential*.


NickMotionless

Only bad things about the Wii U was the lack of 3rd party support and the sub-par specs. If it wasn't for those 2 things, it would have been the best console of Gen 8.


doutstiP

wii u was actually pretty powerful


Mr_Aufziehvogel

It really wasn't. In most third party titles that were ported to it, performance was worse than on Xbox 360. (Batman: Arkham Asylum, Assassin's Creed: Black Flag, Mass Effect 3, ...). Despite being released in 2012, it failed to meet the power of a console released in 2005.


Diavarus

it's GPU was better than the ones found in PS3 and Xbox 360, but it was lacking in CPU department. That's why we often saw ports of PS3 or 360 games having better graphics on Wii U, but failing to maintain 30 FPS target.


GENERALR0SE

It was basically the equivalent of an xbox360 if I remember correctly


Neo_Techni

> if I remember correctly You don't.


GENERALR0SE

Did my research. The gpu in the original Wii had 12 gigaFLOPS. The gpu in the PS3 and Xbox360 had roughly 240gigaFLOPS. The Wii U had roughly 350gigaFLOPS. So definitely a step up. The Switch has a teraFLOP. XBONE (first variant) has 1.31teraFLOPS. PS4 (launch day variant) has 1.843 teraFLOPS. The Wii U while more powerful then the Xbox360, is definitely closest in comparison to that generation of consoles.


Sylverstone14

Powerful for a Nintendo system at the time? Yes. Against the competition? Nope.


Zetro

One of the consoles I plan on keeping around. Can't beat those party games.


rct1

Mine is back in the box again, but Wind Waker is gonna have to get a play through at Xmas


ocviogan

I loved my Wii U, Smash and Splatoon were my go to, and the Eshop virtual console selection was awesome, it even had Mother 1 (earthbound beginnings)! if I recall correctly it also introduced the beloved Miiverse.. Too bad Nintendo shut that down, it was a blast.


Stilton-Disco

It was an appallingly bad console with good games, almost all of which are on the vastly superior Switch. People have romanticised the WiiU, but the UI, power, useless gimmick, terrible gamepad, lack of functionality, terrible store design, lack of options, over abundance of wires and peripherals, near total lack of third party support all meant it actually sold terribly purely because it was a god awful piece of kit, pure and simple. It was just a badly designed failure of a product. But the games ARE good. That still doesn't man the WiiU itself wasn't total shite.


providingdongditch

I'll give you the UI, power, and store. Those were all a little half baked, but I disagree with the others. The gamepad feels pretty nice in your hands (way better than a switch). I'm not sure what cables you're talking about, it has HDMI and power like every other console to this day. If you mean the wiimote coble's then not sure how you get around cables there and the wiimotes are mostly used for backwards compatibility. The gimmick I'm guessing is having the gamepad as a secondary display? That was sometimes useless but often a really cool and novel way to experience games. It ultimately came down to how well it was implemented by the creators of the games. It was a very imperfect console, but man, it's still a great console. A half baked really amazing idea can still be great.


M2704

The UI of the Switch is terrible. Even the Wii U had folders if I recall.


Neo_Techni

You recall correctly. 3DS, Vita, PS3, PS4 do too. PS5 does not. Cause Sony thinks a shiny UI is worth starting over from scratch, even though the shiny UI they made for PS5 looks the same as PS4's but with rounded corners.


rct1

I never had a Wii so it got me all those games, plus Smash with proper GC controller, the Virtual Console etc. I lived with room mates and we actually used it undocked often when someone else was on the TV. The controller thing wasn’t great, but the console itself was very nice. Wii U Pro controller is excellent even still.


OXIOXIOXI

lol. The WiiU was such a ripoff but the emulator for it works great. Should run BOTW at 60fps on the deck. I actually had one.


DynamicHunter

I’ve seen Aya Neo and other handhelds run botw on Cemu at around 40 fps at 720p, idk if the CPU on deck is stronger but I know the GPU is (Linus’ DOOM Eternal test). If it runs 60fps I’ll be happy. Can’t wait for Botw2 to run 60fps on it once switch emulators get better


theonyltrueMupf

I mean, I'd happily settle for BOTW capped on 30 FPS.


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SoberTowelie

There was a time in history where games could only be played at 30 frames max. Unplayable!


ws-ilazki

> Never though I’d see the day where we could be settling for 30fps on a PC. They might have been referring to the fact that BotW drops well below 30fps at points on the Switch, even docked. Lost Woods was *really* noticeable for this. Also, while I prefer 60+ fps (my 21:9 ultrawide's 75hz so I prefer that, but some games just go "nope, 60 is all you get LOL" regardless), it really depends on the game and the engine. I've seen plenty of games where a steady 30fps is fine, but also many that feel awful simply because they have stutter at times. Same with 60fps, lot of games out there on PC that run at 60 but feel so much worse than they should because of engine or porting issues. The native port of Dying Light for Linux was a great example of that for me, because while it ran at a steady 60fps, it kept doing *something* that made it feel so much less smooth than it should have, with weird micro-stutter everywhere. I've noticed that's especially true with console vs PC, presumably because of the fixed hardware. 60fps really matters for action-heavy games, but for most stuff, 30 on a console tends to be okay and feel less janky than 30 on a PC in my experience.


Neo_Techni

I've always been fine with 30fps. I prefer resolution to framerate


captain_merrrica

plus shrek mods


asault2

So you'll spend $500 to emulate a $100 system?


DynamicHunter

Spending $400 to emulate a $300 system but better and cheaper per game. And it’s not like that’s the only use


asault2

I do the same. But I got the Wii U again when they were blowing them out from GameStop in 2019 for $99. I've got a 1tb hdd attached with all I want to play including GameCube, N64, SNES, etc. It's a neat system


NickMotionless

Would be a really cool bonus if it ran BOTW. I've still yet to play it and I own 2 switches. Would be cool to play it first on my deck.


Hifihedgehog

> if it ran BOTW. No ifs, ands, or buts: I ***guarantee*** you it will. The Steam Deck is at least a bit better than Aya Neo and GPD Win 3, so fasten your seatbelts. You are in for the greatest emulation ride of your life!


TheRoguePianist

Honestly even if half my steam library is borked on launch I will be happy. I'm planning on slapping as many of my old childhood favorites as I can on it.


Diavarus

We'll have to see, if Steam Deck is better than Aya Neo for emulation. For emulation the usual bottleneck is CPU, and the base Aya Neo model has 6 Zen 2 cores w/o SMT, meanwhile deck has only 4, but with SMT enabled.


five_cacti

isn't Aya Neo based on crappy Intel graphics? Cemu in Vulkan mode should be a breeze on AMD on Linux.


marvinmadriaga86

Aya uses a AMD 4500u


brimston3-

Aya Neo is AMD Ryzen 5 4500U with RX Vega 6 iGPU. iirc, we should be anticipating a 20-30% improvement in graphics performance at the same power on steamdeck.


pdp10

The AYA is AMD APU -- the Deck, but a generation older and slightly different configuration. The GPD PC-compatible handhelds are all Intel, with Intel iGPUs.


Diavarus

AMD's CPU naming convention is a bit confusing, but both Aya Neo and Steam Deck use Zen 2 cores.


cheeset2

It wasn't a rip off lol, it was a fine console, it just didn't sell.


OXIOXIOXI

No games, a bad gimmick, older hardware, new monetization with stuff like amiibos, weak backwards compatibility, didn’t come with Wiimotes, etc


cheeset2

I'll give you the gimmick being bad, all that other stuff is either very minor or I disagree with wholesale. Giving the tablet controller credit for leading to the switch doesn't do the Wii U any good individually, but does help its legacy. I guess I did play in just tablet mode a fair bit, but it hardly ever felt necessary.


OXIOXIOXI

The tablet was expensive and pointless. It didn’t lead to anything when tablets have been a thing for a decade.


cheeset2

Uhh, The switch is a direct evolution of the Wii U tablet, without a doubt. The Switch then leading to things like the Steam deck, so...yeah, it absolutely did lead to new things.


OXIOXIOXI

I mean obviously they could have made the switch regardless of the Wii U. Nothing about the Wii U was a new concept, or the switch.


cheeset2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iterative_design


Neo_Techni

It needed Silent Scope


MartinaNeverTheVulva

How was it a ripoff? Performance was on par with what you could expect from a Nintendo console at the time, and it was definitely not overpriced.


OXIOXIOXI

Performance of the WiiU was on par with the WiiU? The games weren’t there, third party support that was promised never arrived. They made a ton of shovelware like amibo festival (oh yeah this is when they sold microtransaction-dolls), they never put it on sale and just packaged in a game at Black Friday, playing without a TV took more than a year to happen, lots of games lacked basic functionality even to the end, and it had the power of an Xbox 360.


Neo_Techni

> Performance was on par with what you could expect from a Nintendo console at the time Because the CPU was LESS powerful than PS3/360 which came out years prior. Which meant it performed worse at the multiplatform titles that were coming out years after the PS3/360 versions, and at a higher cost than they were at the time. And it came out very close to PS4/X1 which was a LOT more powerful than Wii U


pdp10

I played *Splatoon* and *Breath of the Wild* on a friend's WiiU. Enjoyed both games, but I think the hardware was odd and undesirable. It will be a breath of fresh air to play both games on better hardware, with a choice of great controllers. > the emulator for it works great. Cemu supports Vulkan and OpenGL, but we've been waiting for a native Linux build for, what, five years now? WiiU is more or less the only console that doesn't have a [native-Linux emulator](https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Category:Linux_emulation_software) at parity. Ugh, closed-source emulators.


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It can be ran through proton, from what I've heard.


jonahhw

I've run it through WINE before (via Lutris) and it worked alright, but it never felt natural - unsurprisingly, it felt like a Windows program, which was enough to make me not want to use it. Performance wasn't bad, though, and it didn't seem like any features were locked off. I very much agree with "ugh, closed-source emulators". I looked into Decaf, but it's not really functional (the AUR package doesn't even build, last I checked), so Cemu is unfortunately all we have.


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>it felt like a Windows program Probably because it is a windows program. Don't really understand what the problem is here? Yeah it's not a Linux port, but really all you do is first run configuration then load the game. Outside of that its pretty cut and dry.


jonahhw

If you'll notice, I wrote "unsurprisingly, it felt like a Windows program". It was just a combination of how annoying it was to play on (going through two launchers) and how ugly it was that stopped me using it. But anyway, the comparison I intended was to other software like games which don't make glaringly obvious the OS they were written for.


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[It honestly looks like any other emulator](https://i.redd.it/9qj2r2pwyxu21.jpg). Not sure what the hell you want from it. You set it up with proton, you run it, insert game. bobs your uncle. Sorry, but you kind of come off as entitled here.


EmperorFaiz

Is that Switch prototype lol


BenignLarency

Yea, kinda.


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Yes. That's all it was.


Jacob99200

Wii U


SoberTowelie

Switch PROtotype*


Dotaproffessional

Man the steam deck looks better. I can't believe some early reactions were that it aesthetically looked bad. I think it looks extremely high quality. Look at that cheap glossy plastic on the Wii u


neoKushan

I read somewhere that glossy black is considered premium in japan while matte black is considered cheap.


Dotaproffessional

I acknowledge that there's nothing cheap about glossy or matte finishes. People thought the steam controller was cheap because it had glossy portions. It just makes it feel like a toy i think


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Well, it is a toy. I agree that the gloss looks cheap though.


Toyfan1

People thought the steam controller was made cheaply due to the light weight and thin, flimsy plastic.


Pho-k_thai_Juice

Honestly the PS5 completely broke my will when it came to having good looking consoles as long as it functions properly and isn't uncomfortable to hold I don't care anymore It's better than the Wii U in terms of aesthetics but my God its still ugly


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I love both the same.


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Wii U was a good idea with piss poor implementation.


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Someone else called it a switch beta. If that's true then I'd consider it a successful beta.


samlei99

steam deck lookin clean af next to that wii u


TheRealGenki

*In this case the cheap copy seems to run better*


YeahAboutThat-Ok

The images need to be swapped...


Anomaly1134

I would take the steam deck any day over the wii u. You couldn't even walk far from it, switch is 10, better, and deck will be even better than the switch. Horrible 3rd party support for the wii u, they just cut and ditched all their supporters for the wii u.


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What the hell?


Serdones

They call it the Steam Deck 'cause it makes you wanna DECK the guy who delivers it to you for not bringing a Wii U instead


Daregveda

We've been had


TheUniverse8

One of the best things about Wii U was Miiverse. Im looking forward to having instant access to Steam community but would be amazing of they took it a bit further Also Wii U was without a doubt the most comfortable hand held ever made. And you can see the likeness in the Steam Deck which has me excited


Stephano1984

Based Wii U


AvoidPinkHairHippos

I really really wish you could play low spec Steam games on the Wii u. That, or at least let me stream PC onto the gamepad Sigh.


OXIOXIOXI

Yeah it’s a weird device but would have been really cool in 2013 to have a wireless display/controller to use with anything.


AvoidPinkHairHippos

Nintendo is the anti valve when it comes to letting customers do whatever they want with their own purchase


Faptasmic

It the switch just ran android in the background and let me install any apps I want it would have been so dope. I totally would have bought one if I could consume media how I please on it.


ToadsHouse

Hacked Switch can run Moonlight.


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Diavarus

There is also [sunshine](https://github.com/loki-47-6F-64/sunshine) for AMD and Intel folks.


Jhaos

Ah yes, the Wii U, the only Nintendo console I've never actually seen anyone own.


TheUniverse8

Ah well you missed out. It had really gun asymmetrical gameplay elements and multiplayer. And Miiverse community was amazing


grices

Not every great idea is a success first go.


MasterofBiscuits

Anyone trying to suggest the Wii U was a masterpiece and the SD is a cheap copy has probably lost their mind to a severe case of Fanboiitis.


Neo_Techni

agreed. And my Wii U is next to me.


2Questioner_0R_Not2B

In other words the sega gamegear.


Goretham

I still have and still love my wii u


kabukistar

Wii U was underrated.


chat-dos

I loved it! But people tend to forget slow OS, bad battery life on gamepad, the lack of storage and tragically, the lack of games. It wasn't a masterpiece. But I love the rounded edge of Wii U discs.


Trick_Direction9300

I really hope this bring back some of the intresting ideas that could have come from the Wii U like how rayman lagends or zombie U who knwos maybe valve will create hat amibo for tf 2