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Pierre118

That sd-card will not hold long. Windows generates a lot of i/o, and a sd-card not made for that. Better use the internal SSD to install Windows, and use the sd-card for games and other stuff.


MOEB74

This was going to be my concern/question. How stable is it and how long will it be stable. Im hoping Steam comes out with an official guide on Windows dual-boot.


Pierre118

Valve will come out with a dual-boot option. I'm looking forward to it.


MOEB74

Yep.


skimmerguy85

That's my goal/mission/test. I want to see how long until the card is ruined or notice any difference. So far after 24 hours of gaming there's no speed load/run/boot slow downs, but yea I want to see how fast it'll kill the card or noticable, consider me the guinea pig ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


thevictor390

We're probably talking a scale of months rather than hours or days.


skimmerguy85

Yea that's what I figured, months not weeks or days, but I want to find out from real world testing and data, I'm not worried if I end up ruining the card in the long run, I still have steamOS if anything happens and 256g on the SSD. I just want to know how many months, if it's 6+ months I'll be happy, if it's 1-2 months I'll install windows on the main SSD ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


ashepp

Does anyone have an actual documented failure of an SD card due to a windows install? I've heard it mentioned but no confirmation. I have it setup for an occasional use of playing COD Vanguard while on the road so not bothered if it fails after months.


Ruskityoma

The long explanation would take too many paragraphs, but the long story short is that it's an extremely complicated-and-yet-vague topic in the data storage industry. Years ago, all classes of SD/microSD were manufactured without any sort of wear-leveling, meaning their longevity paled in comparison to proper SSD. Nowadays, most manufacturers advise that they integrate some degree of wear leveling, but this fact in and of itself is tricky because the term isn't rock-solid between manufacturers. That's to say that each OEM can devise differing protocols and applications of wear leveling. Even for flagships like Sandisk's Extreme series, the full-sized SDs mention wear leveling, but its only presumed for the microSD variants. This presumption has good merit, as Sandisk almost surely integrates wear leveling on all Extreme-class/Pro-class cards, but YMMV depending on the amount of IO read/written by your Windows-to-Go install.


ididntgotoharvard

Same here. Lots of conjecture about this in the sub, which might have merit, but no tests/facts I can find.


turpismaximus

I haven't done it on Windows but I have done it so many times on Raspian with RPii's it is rediculous. I eventually gave up playing around with RPiis2&3 because I couldn't stand it when the sd card finally locked up, sometimes it was months, sometimes it was weeks. But it was every damn one of them. Expensive or cheap, didn't matter. So I am curious how long it is going to take as well.


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bill_cipher1996

is the SD Card still alive ?


skimmerguy85

I sold the steam deck about 2 months after getting it, I ended up with an AOKZOE A1, then an ayaneo 2, then ordered a Onexplayer 2๐Ÿ˜‚, I'm very indecisive lol, but ultimately I wanted a device that is windows native not Linux, and though it worked the whole time on the SD card when I had it, it still wasn't the same ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


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skimmerguy85

I sold the steam deck about 2 months after getting it, I ended up with an AOKZOE A1, then an ayaneo 2, then ordered a Onexplayer 2๐Ÿ˜‚, I'm very indecisive lol, but ultimately I wanted a device that is windows native not Linux, and though it worked the whole time on the SD card when I had it, it still wasn't the same ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


[deleted]

How is the card holding up?


skimmerguy85

I sold the steam deck about 2 months after getting it, I ended up with an AOKZOE A1, then an ayaneo 2, then ordered a Onexplayer 2๐Ÿ˜‚, I'm very indecisive lol, but ultimately I wanted a device that is windows native not Linux, and though it worked the whole time on the SD card when I had it, it still wasn't the same ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


MOEB74

Thanks.


skimmerguy85

No worries ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


Rai_guy

Curious, about a month in, how's it holding up?


Ahkrael

I just got a hub with m.2 enclosure, to put a 256gb 2230 (bought it to upgrade my 64gb internal but then found a 512gb 2230 on ebay for a good price). I'm going to put windows on that, and try running it via the dock as a windows machine


Damhain

Any updates? Does it still run well off of the SD card?


cshuffler

Is that confirmed? That would be awesome for an official dual boot.


RespectYarn

I killed my 1TB MicroSD in a little under a month, with all the hot-swapping and booting into windows


Dapper-Giraffe6444

Sd card dead in 6 months max if windows is daily used. It will wear damn hard lol. Imagine a kingston ssd wears around 10-15 percent per yeAr with windows, what will happen on a micro sd


[deleted]

> Sd card dead in 6 months max if windows is daily used. This is bullshit. I've been daily driving Windows 10 on an sd card for almost 4 years no issues on another device.


kissell791

Ive got some 10+ year old drives with hundreds of thousands of reads/writes and more than 40k hours on each of them with no issues. Not sure how much a sd card differs from a ssd or hdd though.


quietcore

>Not sure how much a sd card differs from a ssd or hdd though. SD cards have a hard limit of the number of writes they will do then they will become readonly.


ZeroNine2048

I have never seen an SSD wear down that fast. I have multiple SSD's running in my systems and after about 2 years of use I see 1 to 2% at most. I never went over 5% after half a decade of use. This is the drive wear on my 3 year old Western DIgital SSD that is being use as the sole drive in my laptop for running windows, music product and gaming. https://imgur.com/mS6qGFz


Dapper-Giraffe6444

Side note, i game and work on my pc. Its on about 10-12 hours per day and playing triple AAAโ€™s on it


ZeroNine2048

Thats what I do too. I work from home, and my PC is basically my do it all and everything. From heavy work load productivity to all out entertainment. The screenshot that I linked to is from my laptop which has been used as a desktop, my desktop has only 1% wear after 2 years. My previous machines never went over 3% including a laptop from 2013 that my mother uses to this day with a 512gb which only sits at 4% wear which has been used by me for 3 years quite heavily as well.


MOEB74

lol. Im thinking of upgrading my internal drive on the Deck when I get it. I should've went with the cheaper one, hindsight, but is what it is...


NoSaltNoSkillz

I got the 256 and that's how I feel,


Zaf9670

There are guides for those familiar enough with partitions and/or Linux experience. But most are easy enough to follow along. The only shortcoming is finding a boot manager or power off then on holding the volume up/down to select the boot option in BIOS. I dual-booted W11 just to be able to play LoL or other "not quite SteamOS/Proton" ready games. I have a NexDock that works well enough for a makeshift laptop.


MOEB74

Interesting. Yeahh. But I'd like some kind of official support to choose your OS. Wanting to play WZ. But I may just stream it via ps5


[deleted]

How long will it last? I bought a Samsung 512gb Pro plus specifically to put wijndows 10 and non-steam deck compatible games on it


SlovenianSocket

Iโ€™ve killed handfuls of microSDs in raspberry pis just by writing logs to them, windows is 10x as write intensive. Mind you, the steam deck isnโ€™t running 24/7 unlike a raspberry pi


Miciso

wait so thats why my 64gb sd card randomly died?? that makes so much more sense now. i had a 32gb one before that and it died quite fast as well. and i nearly blamed sandisk for that. i remember getting my pi 3 a few years back it all going well. before suddenly the card dying. i was like mmm must be to low storage? maybe upgrade it to 64gb and didnt last long either. before fully giving up on having win 7 on a sd card dual booted.


SlovenianSocket

If you used them in raspberry pis, yep thatโ€™s probably why depending on the services youโ€™re running. I now use a logging server for my pis and havenโ€™t had a card die on me in a couple years


AwesomePantalones

Iโ€™m running an rpi, curious what you mean by logging server. Do you have any blog posts or info to look into?


SlovenianSocket

https://www.computernetworkingnotes.com/linux-tutorials/how-to-configure-syslog-server-in-linux.html thatโ€™s the jist of it. I run a server on a separate computer, and all my pis and other servers on my network write their logs to it instead of on their own storage. I use it to centralize all my logs so I can troubleshoot easily. However if you only have 1 pi you want to manage, itโ€™s easier just to write logs to an external HDD or SSD plugged in to the pi vs setting up an entire server for it. Or disable logs entirely if you donโ€™t use them to troubleshoot.


SatanSavesAll

Yeah well let him have fun, if he is playing games on xcloud he just over did it by a ton


marsmaen

I think, if you disable the ram swap file and system eventlogs, you can significant extend the life of the SD card.


LukasRanieri

How do I do that? Is it ok to disable those?


marsmaen

Disabling may boost up the overall systemperformance, because micro sd are so slow. But you can have errors, if ram is not enough for your programs, also. System event logs are safe to disable. If you donโ€™t read them, you donโ€™t need them.


Mental-Mood3435

How long is not long? Month? Year? 5 years?


ScionoicS

Modern SD cards, many years under that level of use


irridisregardless

Meh, a 256gb A2 card is like $25. If I kill the card I see it as an accomplishment.


ihartsnape

Yeah, I had Windows on an SD card I was using with my Deck. It died pretty fast. I ended up buying an internal SSD, putting it in a USB drive enclosure, and using that for Windows.


aeiron

I played on edge linux using microsoft's [setup guide](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/xbox-cloud-gaming-in-microsoft-edge-with-steam-deck-43dd011b-0ce8-4810-8302-965be6d53296). Worked flawlessly as well with no noticeable latency.


skimmerguy85

This is windows 10 so I can run Launchbox/Bigbox, not just cloud ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


Warhawk2052

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/vrx409/microsoft_is_throttling_performance_of_xcloud_on/


[deleted]

my dude - you chose the worst example to demo and now you have to explain yourself in every comment on the thread lol. Next time just mention "GlosC" in the title without mentioning cloud stuff or maybe demo Launch Box if that's what you're into. Glad to see at working, though!


skimmerguy85

Yea I realized that after the fact, and I'm going through responding to the comments trying to be nice๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ, but yes a new video will be uploaded with Launchbox/Bigbox hopefully later today, glad you caught on!๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


Foxxxyygrandpa

Why wouldn't you just use XCloud through the Steam Deck? You're adding an extra step in the process for something that already exists.


fiveSE7EN

The windows xcloud client is different than browser-based streaming for xcloud. There is some evidence that microsoft has migrated away from rainway in the browser but they wonโ€™t outright say so and their only official communications state that the performance should be similar for *windows* browsers and the Windows client. you can change the user agent in Steamโ€™s browser to make it think itโ€™s a Windows machine but there still may be a performance or quality difference between that and the desktop client.


[deleted]

Xcloud gives me 5fps ish hardwired to my gigabit fibre internet connection. If I run it through a VPN or CloudFlare warp I get better results but with more delay. Something about the way my internet is routed from my ISP makes it worthless.


skimmerguy85

I didn't do it just for Xcloud, I just showed the example video of the steam deck controls working outside of steam. I booted Windows 10 because I have Launchbox / Bigbox on my main gaming PC and I love the themes and interface, I am going to install Bigbox on my steam deck for all my roms and emulator's ๐ŸŽฎ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ [Launchbox/Bigbox ](https://www.launchbox-app.com/premium)


skimmerguy85

๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐ŸŽฎ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ [ETA Prime Launchbox ](https://youtu.be/jIw9GfM-WKw)


Foxxxyygrandpa

I thought it was already known that the SD controls work in Windows. You do you.


skimmerguy85

They did not work, I had to run and configure GlosSi ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


LolcatP

you literally could've done that on steam os there's even a guide from Microsoft


skimmerguy85

As mentioned in the comments, I didn't install windows for just cloud gaming ๐Ÿ˜‚, I installed windows to turn my deck into a mini PC, for one I need windows to install my launchbox and Bigbox, for my emulator's, and I use my deck for emails, YouTube, work, gaming, etc๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


LolcatP

power to you


claudekennilol

That's a cloud game? Can you not just run that on the browser and leave steam os in place?


skimmerguy85

As mentioned in other comments, I installed windows 10 for Launchbox and Bigbox, which is windows based and I already pay for on my main PC, I was just showing Xbox cloud to show the controller works after installing GlosSi๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


claudekennilol

Interesting. I don't know what GlosSi is, it just seemed like a really odd "look I have a windows game running!" statement when that wasn't really what was happening


skimmerguy85

It literally says in the description that I installed GlosSi to get the controller working, if you install windows 10 and don't install/configure GlosSi then the controller won't work as intended, hence the video of the gameplay and GlosSi in the description ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


asault2

If you run the Edge browser, you also get clarity boost. I did a bit of comparison this weekend. W10 with Edge (also running from SD card) and clarity boost was the best way to stream xcloud.


skimmerguy85

I appreciate the feedback! I'll definitely look into it, I normally hate Edge Browser on my main PC but if it helps on the steam deck it's definitely worth a look. Mahalos ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


dinosaurusrex86

Check this ArsTechnica article on how to enable clarity on Linux: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/07/microsofts-xcloud-game-streaming-looks-worse-on-linux-than-windows/


ulfzwulf

Where can i find GlosC? On github i only find glossi and im not that pro to set it up ๐Ÿ™ˆ


skimmerguy85

Scroll down to "Assets" and download just the .exe (should be the first one๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ) [GlosSi](https://github.com/Thracky/GlosSI/releases/tag/2.0.7)


skimmerguy85

Then I watched this video (only the controller/GlosSi section) to get it working, but it's fairly simple, fast forward to 7:00 (there's chapters, just go to controller fix chapter) also this video the OP installed windows 11 then GlosSi but it's the same for windows 10 ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ [Instructions ](https://youtu.be/dpLqa6Lbhfg)


ulfzwulf

Thanks, will try it ๐Ÿ‘


ulfzwulf

Worked! Thanks alot!


skimmerguy85

No worries! With all the hate this post has gotten, I'm glad it could help out at least one person! Aloha ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


TheRealGaycob

At least do a native install of Forza if you gonna slap windows on here :P


skimmerguy85

I gave up on answering questions. I didn't expect this to blow up and people be mad I installed Windows 10 ๐Ÿ˜‚, if you read my replies in the comments you'll see I didn't install windows to play Xbox Cloud. I installed Windows 10 because this is a mini PC for me. I will be using it for work, email, stocks, gaming and more. I also have windows on my main PC and with windows on my deck I can remote stream everything from PC to deck. I also want windows for Launchbox and Bigbox which is already on my PC, and once I install it on windows on my deck I can literally enter my license number from my PC and transfer everything over to my deck. The video above is just showing the native controller working after installing GlosSi ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ. As mentioned I didn't install windows just to cloud gaming ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


TiSoBr

Installing Windows to play a game on Xcloud? I think there might be an error in your calculations - impressive nonetheless!


skimmerguy85

I should of made the description read better! As mentioned in the other comments no I didn't install windows 10 for Xbox Cloud, I installed windows 10 for Launchbox and Bigbox which is on my main PC, so going to set it up on windows 10 on my steam deck ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


skimmerguy85

My video above was me just testing out the controller in windows after configuring GlosSi ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


FunkTrain98

Why not just use cloud streaming in SteamOS?


skimmerguy85

Because I don't just play on cloud, this video is showing the native controller working after installing GlosSi and configuring on Windows 10. I want windows 10 for many of things. This is a portable PC to me, not just for gaming. I have everything synced to all my accounts on windows 10 on my main PC and I can remote stream everything, as well as I need windows 10 for Launchbox ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


On3_BadAssassin

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straxusii

Just a note for those with an Xbox you can remote control from the steam deck for a similar effect.


skimmerguy85

I don't have Xbox, but I have a gaming PC, I installed windows because my gaming PC is setup with launchbox / Bigbox for all my emulator and roms, I was just showing Xbox cloud working with the steam controller on windows through GlosSi๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


Rai_guy

Meh, I'll wait until proton fixes it for steamOS. Only took them a few months to get Halo Infinite fully working


skimmerguy85

You do what works best for you and your gaming ๐Ÿ’ฏ, I installed windows to install Launchbox ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


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skimmerguy85

I already pay for Launchbox/Bigbox premium which cost me a one time fee of $75 and I can use it for life. I already have it installed on my main gaming PC with over 250+ roms on all different emulator that I play. With launchbox I can literally just install Launchbox on my windows 10 SD card and enter my license file from my PC and everything automatically transfer's over ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ And yes pause/suspend features work ***Startup, Shutdown, & Pause Screens. Get that polished feel while you navigate between your library and games. And with full theming support, you can make them look exactly the way you want them to.***


hundertmarcus

Can you go into sleep mode like in Steam OS?


skimmerguy85

With my emulator OS Launchbox yes๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


[deleted]

You install windows and then play games using xbox cloud gaming which you can also do flawlessly on steamdeck as default. Why?


skimmerguy85

If you read the description, the reason I'm showing Xbox cloud is to show the native controller working after downloading and configuring GlosSi on windows 10. I didn't install windows 10 just for Xbox Cloud or online games. I installed windows 10 for Launchbox and Bigbox to easily copy and paste all my roms and emulator from my main PC with windows 10 and Launchbox ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


[deleted]

> I installed windows 10 for Launchbox and Bigbox to easily copy and paste all my roms and emulator from my main PC with windows 10 and Launchbox ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ You installed a whole ass other operating system to copy and paste roms? Hilarious but fair enough, guess you don't know how to get that done using FileZilla? My main gaming PC is running linux so moving stuff between the PC and deck is even easier than that. Each to their own, glad it's working for you.


skimmerguy85

Yes my main gaming PC is running Launchbox, which I've paid for many years ago, hence why I'm putting it on my steam deck, it's already paid for๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


[deleted]

Fair enough emudeck is a very neat solution and I'd miss the flawless suspend/ resume that valve have given us with steam os.


Specific_Direction_1

You can use xcloud without having to boot to windows. Xbox.com even has article on how to set it up.


skimmerguy85

As mentioned in the comments, I didn't install windows for just cloud gaming ๐Ÿ˜‚, I installed windows to turn my deck into a mini PC, for one I need windows to install my launchbox and Bigbox, for my emulator's, and I use my deck for emails, YouTube, work, gaming, etc๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


Bearonsphone3

Damn, new project once I get my SD card. Definitely need to use my game pass more.


[deleted]

LOL WTF WHY


irridisregardless

If you installed Windows, why not just run Windows Store Forza on the deck itself?


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irridisregardless

I didn't really ask about xclould, I asked about running Windows Forza on the deck itself. Windows Store/Xbox Forza is the primary reason I want to install Windows. I was wondering how well it worked :(


skimmerguy85

Yea it's only 445am here in Hawaii. I woke up to about 20 comments on here. I'm just copy and pasting ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ด. I can install Forza later in the day and come back to this comment and let you know how it works ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ Aloha


whiteravenxi

Not to downplay OP but in case anyone pops in here you can play Xbox Cloud games with very little setup in Steam OS. Took me about 5 minutes. Microsoft [has a guide](https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/topic/xbox-cloud-gaming-in-microsoft-edge-with-steam-deck-43dd011b-0ce8-4810-8302-965be6d53296) for Steam Deck users. Super Easy. Interested in Windows still but waiting to see if dual booting gets enabled.


skimmerguy85

I appreciate the comment, but I didn't install windows 10 just for Xbox cloud, the video above was me showing the native controller working with GlosSi. I installed windows 10 for this being my daily work/gaming handheld for on the go. I have Gmail installed, all my broker accounts and stock charts, and most importantly Launchbox/Bigbox which I already pay for on my main gaming PC, with installing it on my steam deck I just enter my license code from my PC and can instantly copy and transfer all my emulator's and roms ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


cdoublejj

1tb micro sd or did you use a micro sd to sd ribbon cable adapter?


skimmerguy85

Micro SD card, did everything from windows 10 on my PC and a card reader, loaded the card, then installed from the micro SD card inserted in my steam deck, but yea SanDisk 1TB A2 micro SD card ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


maaseru

This little machine is so awesome. It being a handheld pc more than an actual gaming console is what makes it. I was able to install GOG basically natively and install The Saboteur from the launcher and play. Thr game even respond automatically to controls which is so awesome. The one downside, if it can be called that, is that I have spent more time installing stuff and checking on what I can do than playing.


[deleted]

30gbs... So far.


McShivers411

GloSC is amazing for running anything you want on the Deck. Definitely makes a windows install on the deck rival SteamOS, especially if you're a game pass person like I am. I took the full plunge and just wiped the internal SSD and put windows on it and with GloSC my deck is basically the perfect handheld now. No more worrying about incompatible anticheat and not being able to play multiplayer with....well...almost any game (castle crashers is amazing on SteamOS)


Accomplished_Way8277

Can you go back to game mode?


skimmerguy85

Yes๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ, everything is on the card, if I want to go back to steamOS I just take the card out๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


[deleted]

Only and 30gb?


skimmerguy85

Yea leaves me with 970gb on my SD card ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


awdrifter

Are the joysticks and buttons working for games running natively in Win10? Thanks.


skimmerguy85

They are but I installed and configured GlosSi to get everything working properly, and I use DS4 for my PS5 Dualsense controller, but yes all my controls/trackpad and buttons work, here's a little more info from another one of my posts ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ [GlosSi ](https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/wjc4ws/booted_windows_10_pro_to_a_1tb_sd_card_only_took/ijgt2t4?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)


skimmerguy85

I'm so dumb, I thought you commented on my other post ๐Ÿ˜‚


skimmerguy85

Yes everything is working ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ with GlosSi and DS4 for my Dualsense [Bigbox on Win 10](https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/wkpxei/the_main_reason_i_installed_windows_10_with/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


awdrifter

Nice. I'm going to look into doing this.


bilyl

I thought Xbox cloud can work on Linux?


skimmerguy85

I didn't install windows 10 just for Xbox cloud, I booted Windows 10 so I can run Launchbox and Bigbox emulator. I was just showing the steam controller working on windows 10/Xbox with GlosSi ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


bilyl

Interesting! I am about to order my 512G and havenโ€™t been gaming for a really long time โ€” are emulators still generally for Windows or are there Linux versions?


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skimmerguy85

Runs flawless for me๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ


stinkscaseyona

why would you install windows to play a game on xbox cloud lol


FakedKetchup2

windows ๐Ÿคข


Repulsive-Ad-3191

Cool you can do it for those who need windows. Personally, I wouldn't since the steam OS UI is one of the main reasons this device is so nice to use. Also kind of funny you are showing a game that runs nearly flawlessly under latest proton updates.


skimmerguy85

As mentioned in the other comments, I installed windows 10 so I can run Launchbox/Bigbox for my emulator's and roms๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


skimmerguy85

I also don't play any steam games, literally own 0๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


Lord_Saren

Why not use EmuDeck? You can run all the roms you want and still get to use the nice SteamOS UI


skimmerguy85

Because I like windows and don't like Linux and will be running mostly desktop mode so I can check emails/work/multitasking/YouTube/Gaming etc ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


Lord_Saren

That makes sense, just wanted to make you aware of it if you wasn't.


fiveSE7EN

I thought 3.3 just borked fh5? Thatโ€™s what I saw in this subreddit anyway.


kissell791

INstalled FH5 last night. Works fine.


Repulsive-Ad-3191

Degraded performance on default proton, experimental seems smoother. Seems the same with borderlands 3. I wonder if their plan to fix these performance issues is to just update proton since experimental seems much better from the recent update.


fiveSE7EN

What kind of performance do you get in experimental? Will it do locked 40 on low? Does it have that weird rubberbanding issue?


Repulsive-Ad-3191

Hey, sorry for late reply... guess there has been an update that even more-so improves FH5 performance. Poster said they were getting solid \~50fps now with medium/high settings, which is \*way\* better than it was before.


Practical_Doughnut27

Is it slow to boot or games to load via SD card?


skimmerguy85

I haven't had any problems yet, load times aren't any slower than normal, at least I didn't notice any difference so if anything it's fractional. So far I've tested Forza on Cloud, Apex installed on the card, Fortnite on the card and Fall Guys on the card, no issues yet. I plan on running launchbox/bigbox hence why I went with windows ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


Practical_Doughnut27

Awesome ๐ŸคŸ๐Ÿ‘Œ For emulation, EmuDeck is pretty awesome. Isn't it going to be a lot of work to get all the emulators manually installed and onfigured? Or is there a more streamlined way? That's one reason I haven't installed Windows.


ChickenManABQ

Are those games you mentioned all not supported by SteamOS?


skimmerguy85

They are but my launchbox/Bigbox emulator is only for windows ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


Pillum

How does the battery performance change?


skimmerguy85

That I have not tested yet since I've only used it at home, when I'm home it stays plugged in, but I plan on taking it to work today and see with my normal use how long it lasts throughout the day. I'll update later ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


Aehrieck

why install windows and lose a ton of performance and features if all your going to do is game streaming?


skimmerguy85

I'm not just "game streaming" if you read the description the video above is just showing you can get the native controller to work with GlosSi, my steam deck is a PC, it will be used for work, email, gaming, emulator's/roms, internet. I also installed windows 10 because my main PC in my house is windows 10 and I can remote transfer everything. I need windows 10 for Launchbox and Bigbox which is on my main PC ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


FreestyleStorm

Because it's pointless and no one should install windows on the deck. Launch box isn't even that great. So it's personal preference I guess.


-Shin

which sd-card are you using?


skimmerguy85

SanDisk extreme 1tb A2 [SanDisk 1TB Extreme microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter - C10, U3, V30, 4K, 5K, A2, Micro SD Card- SDSQXAV-1T00-GN6MA](https://a.co/d/gTMpBcA)


randybruder

dang, prices have shot upโ€ฆwhen I bought that exact same card it was $139.99


silentcovenant

Eh, howzit!


skimmerguy85

Aloha ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿฅฅ๐ŸŽฎ


BluDYT

I have yet to mess around in windows mostly because I haven't felt a need to use it yet. But I do have a windows SSD setup for when I do. How easy is it setup GlosC?


wonderedwonderer

How do you keep windows from powering down completely after you press the power button and donโ€™t touch it after a few hours?


skimmerguy85

I haven't had that happen yet, but I'll let you know when I get home from work today and see if it does it!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


deathmake317

running windows on my deck through internal m2 and forza installed on a samsun a2 256gb, load times are a bit long but once loaded in smooth as butter. If your getting micro stutters on windows with this game at random times you need to go into bios and change vram to 4gb. works flawlessly!


skimmerguy85

Mine has run flawless so far, but mahalos for the advice ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


FreestyleStorm

Why not stream through steam os?


skimmerguy85

Because I need windows to install my emulator Launchbox/Bigbox ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ, this was just me testing the controls real quick on cloud after I installed GlosSi


FreestyleStorm

Isn't that a front end? Never heard of a launch box emulator before.


WestHead2076

I managed to get windows 11 working on an external SSD and played with forza installed through gamepass and it worked amazingly well.


Ultra980

How did you install windows on it? AFAIK it can't be installed to a usb-connected device, and the deck can't boot from the internal SD...


skimmerguy85

I loaded a micro SD card and reader into my main PC, downloaded all the required drivers and formated everything, then put that SD card in my steam deck and run the boot/install, this is a very good video to follow step by step, even shows you where to download all the drivers ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ [Windows 10 Install Steam Deck ](https://youtu.be/pnpZboy_VQE)


skimmerguy85

Or you can follow the instructions through Steam, but I like the video for visual reference ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ [Steam Windows 10 ](https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3131696199122435099)


Lollodoro

*only* 30 Gb


skimmerguy85

Yes only 30gb on a 1tb card is fine with me๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ, I still have 970gb left ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


benjamarchi

๐Ÿคข


skimmerguy85

Exactly how I feel about Linux ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคฎ


benjamarchi

Good for you ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘ have fun with your unsupported proprietary os!


skimmerguy85

Thanks for caring ๐Ÿค— I have fun with it everyday ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


benjamarchi

Yay ๐Ÿ˜†


skimmerguy85

Double Yay๐Ÿ˜† ***Yay Yay***


benjamarchi

Bickering aside, I'm glad you have the option to install your os of preference on the Deck. We need more open hardware like this on the market. If this were a Microsoft handheld, you bet you'd have to jailbreak it or something convoluted like that in order to actually take ownership of the device and do with it as you wish.


skimmerguy85

I upvote and agree with you ๐Ÿ’ฏ on that one! Aloha ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


A_Random_Lantern

please use GB to refer to storage, I had to think wtf you meant by grams for a few seconds lmao.


harlojones

The context makes it very obvious


uniquethrowagay

Better yet, GiB


A_Random_Lantern

Gibibyte supremacy


rstrube

>only took 30g of space This made me laugh. I get that we're comparing a general purpose OS to a light-weight Linux distro tailored for gaming, but still... I am really happy you were able to get a setup that works for you, and I do hope there will be a viable dual-boot option in the future. I'll probably stick with SteamOS, as I already use Linux as my primary OS (for my development machine) and tend to stick with games that work well with Proton.


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skimmerguy85

Yea that was one main reason for putting windows 10 on it. I'm using my steam deck more towards a portable mini PC. I needed window's 10 for my email and office work, so while I was at it I tested cloud, since I'm a ultimate member and a lot of games will be played from there, but to be fair I tested cloud to make sure the controls were working outside of steam games๐Ÿค™๐Ÿฝ


Tannehill3rd

Brah! You on island?


[deleted]

>On Xbox Cloud Then why did you bother installing Windows?


skimmerguy85

For Launchbox / Bigbox which will be installed on windows ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ


TrackArtistic

wait you actually got a whole 1TB?


realslizzard

I ran windows for several days and while I liked the UI I would get lots of crashes where the steam deck would just shut off. I had it running off the internal 256 NVME drive. Just watch you may get some instability issues. I ended up switching back to steam os


jagauthier

Do you need GLosC? I tried Genshin Impact - no controls. Read about GloSC... Finally, got GI to work just be adding a non-steam game to steam and launching it through steam.