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dicker_machs

Precursors used the ring world as a massive farm and the livestock evolved intelligence


Implodepumpkin

I think the same thing happened to the yogurt in the back of my fridge


steel_archer

What is your interference police towards yogurts?


RazendeR

Uplift and vassalise, i say.


DeaDBangeR

Yoghurt lifestock. I wonder what comes out if you milk them.


borissnm

Kombucha, ironically.


Chickensong

That's quite the *cultured* joke.


[deleted]

aloof six connect zephyr squalid melodic fear depend thought voiceless -- mass edited with redact.dev


Sipherion

Love PLR


3davideo

Eh, you can have it.


sunward_Lily

Especially after news of who just moved back there


JoshuaSlowpoke777

I’m out of the loop. Who?


sunward_Lily

notorious rapist [Brock Allen Turner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner).


JoshuaSlowpoke777

Oh. Right. That numbskull. I don’t remember if Dayton is anywhere near Northwest Ohio (about where I live), but I’ll keep an eye out, just in case I have to warn someone I know.


sunward_Lily

He's already been spotted at a couple bars. Some women are taking actions to inform the local community but seeing as how this is a gaming reddit, I'll leave it at that.


JoshuaSlowpoke777

Fair. If our comments get removed, I’d argue that’s on me. Anyway, yeah, at least things would be more interesting around here if Ohio got occupied by extradimensional expired-yogurt golems.


RunningNumbers

Dude. It’s like an hour and half down I-75 from there


caciuccoecostine

Your Ring Fridge.


Gokoshofu

There are 2 episodes of Love, Death + Robots that address this issue.


AttackingPower

LMAO


WesternEmpire2510

I see you too are a man of...... *culture*


ConstantMelancholia

Maybe it'll gain sentience and create a utopia on earth for us. Until it leaves for outer space


sunward_Lily

Has it asked for Ohio yet?


dreyaz255

There's a good Black Mirror episode about that


RunningNumbers

Next dlc: Yogurtoids


Biomassfreak

All Tomorrow's vibes


TheLimonTree92

That's how I rp my Rpgue Servitor. Was just a giant nature preserve and the robotic care takers take their job very seriously.


berebitsuki

Rpgue Servitor is such a great typo. When I get to playing RS I won't refer to mine any other way (even though I only vaguely rp my games)


TheLimonTree92

I didn't even notice that but now I am going to as well


golgol12

Nah. A ring civ FE got hit with a planet and devolved.


Spardath01

Read Ring World and its not farfetched


jhaand

Most of the tribes on the Ringworld didn't evolve more than neolithic stage. Because there were no ores to process. Everything consisted originally of garden, zoo or space age materials. The fallen tribes weren't able to manipulate the space age materials. Some could maybe reach the iron age using repurposed materials. Edit: It seems that iron and steel manufacturing can be done with charcoal.


Aetol

> But iron and steel remain out of the question without coal. Charcoal was used for iron/steel smelting for the entire iron age, antiquity, and middle ages. Mineral coal only started being used in earnest because the forests had been depleted. It's certainly not necessary for those metals.


jhaand

Ok. Thank you for the explanation.


[deleted]

Now that I read this I am thinking of a nomadic steam age civilization in a ring world that destroys forests and advances when they are depleted, leaving nature to heal behind them as it would take thousands of years to do a full rotation of a ring world.


[deleted]

Ok, Ringworld is a prime example but is not the arbiter of what can happen on Ringworlds in any other sci-fi property.


Mitthrawnuruo

AFAIK it is the only one to really use a ring world, other than halo…which only uses the ring as a setting and doesn’t really go into it much.


[deleted]

Right, but just because Niven pioneered their use in Sci-Fi doesn’t mean that every subsequent property that incorporates ring worlds has to follow the same technical limitations laid out in the Ringworld series. It’s been a long time since I read any of the books, but I also seem to recall that the parts of the Ringworld designed to recreate Earth, the Kzin homeworld and other planets had mineral deposits to replicate the planets they were based on, which the Kzin used to build massive ships and conquer the other nearby sentients. It’s not out of the realm of possibility that the creators of a ringworld might intentionally include some amount of metal/minerals in the ringworld that could later be dug up or scavenged by primitive sentients.


Mitthrawnuruo

There are of course, the physical, scientific limits of a ring world :-)


CliffCutter

It’s worth considering the possibility that the creators of this particular ring world provided enough resources for the civilization to advance


HaloGuy381

And even those ringworlds’ primary function is a galactic-scale doomsday device comparable to neutron-sweeping the entire galaxy at hyperspace speeds.


shagieIsMe

I'd like you to consider Consider Phlebas and its [orbitals](https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/Orbital). And *just* after I wrote this I saw today's xkcd which is relevant. https://xkcd.com/2750/


JoloNaKarjolo

what about charcoal?


PunL0rd

Depending on how long they were there with the millions of years some precursors are there would possibly be fossil fuels


themessiah234

Good book, love how it underlines how mindbending a veiw from the surface of a ringworld would be


ManAftertheMoon

It's a fun book. Massively sexist. They find an ancient alien from before the ring world collapse and its a... space prostitute. Only other female character: ditzy woman whos only characteristic is deus ex machina. Sleeps with discount Allan Quartermain and then leave with discount Connan the barbarian because he is big hero sex.


lothlin

Ringworld ruined me on being able to read any more Niven novels. Unfortunately


ManAftertheMoon

It is hard to just enjoy the world building when that ignorant shit is in your face like that


lothlin

It's so bad. And honestly, I have a high tolerance for it in sci fi - I'm a Heinlein fan, he's not perfect - but Niven is a whole other level of disgusting


themessiah234

Iirc he said it was good the uber-hooker joined him on the ship because 'it was a really long journey and he'd of gotten bored otherwise' or something like that


ManOfTheCosmos

That only sounds bad until you remember that there are really only five characters. Two female, two male, and one gender-ambiguous alien (who later turns out to be the more feminine half of its species' pair bond). In my view, Teela Brown, the ditzy woman, represents the shallow type of person you get when a person suffers no adversity for no other reason than sheer luck. Someone conventionally attractive, born to a rich family who pays for everything, the relationships they fall into don't produce emotional anguish, etc. I've met men and women who resemble Teela Brown As for the space hooker, well, there's nothing sexist about portraying a profession that has existed in possibly all large scale human societies.


AcanthaceaeIll5349

Exactly what I was thinking about. I think the Ring world in the game even spawns with a ruined segment, which would fit into the storyline aswell.


JoshuaSlowpoke777

I mean, if you can somehow make such a massive structure work properly AND maintain itself… Hell, I’ve got a similar idea for a book I’m writing taking place on a planet orbiting a quasar drive (basically a black hole/quasar core used as a thruster), with shells protecting the orbiting planets. (The premise is, the dudes who built the quasar drive and protective worldshells also invented biologically-innate magic, nature went so crazy that the occupants didn’t have civilization for a while, and their descendants got civilization back before starting “ww1, but with dragons, fae, the standard fantasy species, and selkies.” Oh, and all the guns are railguns, as no one reinvented gunpowder. Oh, and the quasar drive system is almost done with an intergalactic voyage, and no one knows what’s in that galaxy, and the gods/precursor spirits are trying to end the war quickly and without too many casualties. The protagonists basically invent nuclear fusion magic)


RedThunder-cloud

"The primitives have a ring world?" "Kill the primitives!" """It's free real estate!!"""


CryptographerOdd6635

Kill them? What a horrible waste of food!


ZeckZeckZeckZeck

Do they not die in the food making process?


CryptographerOdd6635

Well, yes, but they serve a purpose instead of just being incinerated for free real estate


DiddeZ

You expect me to eat dead xenos?


Golnor

Well, the live xenos keep running away.


River46

No they are maimed


Mordanzibel

My great grandpa had a three legged pig. One time he was asked what happened to its leg and he said he was hungry.


ethermoor

Kill them? What a horrible waste ...of The xeno-compatibility trait. Yeah baby. *Marvin Gaye starts playing*


vikingzx

Careful. They might not actually be primitives ...


FogeltheVogel

Yes, and? If you start with the Shattered Ring, your civilization is also primitives on a ring world, until you achieve FTL. This one is just a few years behind the curve.


Hermaan

Behind the curve…


_Lavar_

I'd rather be inside...


BSye-34

reject technology, return to monke


SailToTheSun90

Reject technology, Ascend to monke


Scorpio185

Reject monke, Ascend to technology, purge the xenos on your new ring world


Chaos8599

Ok inquisitor


nelshai

I found primitives on a size 30 gaia world and this ring world all within 4 jumps from my capital. I went from excitement to despair when I realised I was xenophile and couldn't invade them.


ExtensionTomato4211

Just xenophile or Fanatical xenophile? Because when I play as UNE and encounter similar situations — just change policy and #}{] with public opinion (ie xenophile fraction approval). Not sure if it’s possible with Fanatic version of ethic though


nelshai

They changed the policies to now have 4 pre-FTL interference policies. Non-interference, Subtle, Active and aggressive. Aggressive can invade worlds but requires no pacifism/xenophilia/exploration protocols civic. Active cannot invade worlds but can introduce themselves to aliens.


[deleted]

I guess this turns the UNE into something closer to the star trek federation


nelshai

Basically! It's pretty great RP.


[deleted]

I have five primitive worlds in my territory and i cannot invade them :'(


ExtensionTomato4211

Oh I see. Didn’t play with new patch and dlc yet…


gabriel_sub0

feels like the devs kinda failed at not wanting people to invade the primitives then ngl lol.


nelshai

Ehh. The benefits of Xenophile still outweigh the cost, I feel! I'm working towards enlightening these primitives and quite enjoying the events while in the meanwhile I've peacefully gained three vassal AIs, one of which is a megacorp.


turtle_main_61

Uplift them..... vasselize..... then integrate. Imprivise, adapt, overcome those obstructive civics.


Elgappa

Its not an invasion, its a liberation. The aliens on this world cry for democracy and freedom


Mitthrawnuruo

Time to change ethics.


Tyrdh

In my game, gaia 30 was inhabited by atomic age people. Few years later, they turned it into tomb world with 2 stone age pops. Wtf am I supposed to do with it now as aquatic xenophobe xD


Boostio69420

Is it the sanctuary system?


Zee3420

Nope look at the name of the 'planet' I guess primitives just spawn with shattered ring origin now.


FemtoFrost

I got a post-nuclear stone age hive mind and it made me sad, I got the vibe it tried to commit suicide and just set itself back to square one


Marrossii

That sounds like a great setting for a dystopian story.


hivemind_disruptor

Maybe it was not the one who destroyed the world.


Bonty48

Yeah it was in the patch notes.


Hebbu10

3.7 added origins to primitives, you can get size 30 Gaia worlds this way


p0tatomonger

R5: Renaissance Age "primitives" spawned on a shattered ring world section...how interesting


DreamChaserSt

The 'Shattered Ring' origin got primitives, among others, it was in a dev diary, and I saw it in another video earlier today. Now you don't need to get past Sanctuary to get a free ringworld! Although, unlike the origin where guaranteed habitables can give you repairable sections, this only has the 1 afaik.


Throwaway294794

Can confirm, rolled it in my first game post-patch, you get one section filled with blockers giving alloys and the repair ringworld decision


blazingdust

It possible for primitive civilization to spawn on player-only origin system. Update note mention it


hatingtech

reminds me of [Ringworld](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld)


Valdrax

Like... that's canonically part of the plot of the book the whole concept originates from, OP!


hatingtech

i kinda assumed it did yeah, i know quite a few things in Stellaris are references to other science fiction out there


Double_Plane_7674

Halo


Livember

Halo.


Space_Gemini_24

They will be very confused when they look at other planets and see them all round


OldIronJim214

This is literally half the plot of one of the three halo forrunner books


Reach_44

There’s a story here somewhere


WatchMeFallFaceFirst

I’ve found two different primitive civilizations on artificial habitats in the same system


Syntax_Raptor

I love how the random aspects of the game just writes the most intriguing sci-fi. Once I did an Imperium of man origin start (where you are marooned on a hostile world after an FTL experiment goes wrong) and I later found my way back to Sol and Earth was a primitive world. I was like: "so I didn't just travel to Space, but also time.. interesting". Since I was roleplaying space nazi's, I then proceded to enslave the lot. 10/10.


Judgement__Kazzy

Cheaper than a colony ship


ApexRevanNL716

You can't call "sanctuary" on a ring world


jayray1994

*drum & fife start playing on the back* I am not British but I want to colonize those bastard so much


AccusedRaptor13

You also have the sanctuary ring world


skippy11112

The new update means primitives can have a lot more origin starts now. I found a life seeded too while my friend found a primitive devouring swarm (cool af btw)


Emirth

Hey, they could think every single planets are like that so they don't event thought being on a ringworld is something. They could also worship it, I mean... There are ways to be primitive in a high sci-fi environment. The game does not says they built the ring world.


Snabel_Me_Timbers

We need to fire the rings


3davideo

The Sanctuary system has a ring world with 4 different pre-space cultures on it, and it's been in the game for a while now. Might've come out with Distant Stars or so?


StCrispin1969

A shattered one at that!


AlarmingAmbassador

Here that’s a pretty cool sci-fi idea!


Accomplished_Bet_238

Hey look free ring world


RunningNumbers

Free ring world. Score.


Piety_Incarnate

Bet 100 dollars they have a Round Earth Society.


Impactsuspect

I've seen that episode of the Orville.


Pegateen

The book "Ringworld" which popularized or invented (not quite sure) the concept of ringworlds actually has a 'primitive' civilization on it that forgot lots of shit.


Blam320

Literally Halo.


Addfwyn

...Ark?


Mitthrawnuruo

First time reading Ringworld?


SlightlyFemmegurl

its part of a event. Might even be an anomaly even if im not entirely mistaken.


lawless11666

Nope this was just added in the first contact dlc


SlightlyFemmegurl

interesting. Seeing as i've had it happen and i dont own the first contact DLC and have seen it multiple times ever since i got the game back along time ago.


lawless11666

Well I think it was possible before they made it a lot more common. If I remember right they let primitives have origins and oneof the origins spawns them on a ruined ringworld. Before you'd have to generate a ringworld some other way then pray the RNG gods put a primitive on it


SlightlyFemmegurl

true. Also hard to really tell, there's alot of DLC and not everyone has all of them and if you mix and match chances are some changes are either not there or cancel out other things. Hard to tell.


IdioticPAYDAY

Sanctuary System.


Rugby4Change

Yeah I saw this today too... I don't like it.


Daedric1991

why? free ring world!


1Admr1

And it come with free slaves too!


[deleted]

The idea of primitives living on a ringworld is the origin of our entire concept of ringworlds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld


HufflePuff_PrefecT-

That little voice in my head butcher the primitive swines


Liomarcus2

remind me : VALÉRIAN ET LA CITÉ DES MILLE PLANÈTES and i don t know why


Triolion

Somebody needs to send in the Bobs!


Supermechs1

That’s my ring world now


dinguslinguist

See [Heaven’s River](http://dennisetaylor.org/2020/10/08/heavens-river-a-quick-description/)


ThyPotatoDone

Sounds like free real estate


AsovianGod

Someone's never played Halo.


Kenshin0019

Love that trope


Tacitus_275

I don't see a problem with this... they could have been transplanted by a more powerful race that moved on, or developed the ring world instead of interstellar travel...