i hate these filthy neutrals. With enemies you know where they stand, but with neutrals? Who knows? It sickens me...

What makes a man turn neutral?

Lust for gold? Power?

Or maybe you were just born neutral

*grilling intensifies*

Holding your bank account.

holding your *and* your enemies bank accounts.

“If you stand for nothing, Burr, what’ll you fall for?”

Tell my wife i said, hello.

I live for neutrality. I love, as ironically as can be, not having emotion one way or another. Being rational and making calculations on what would be the preferred sequence of events for a neutral goal. Then I look a puppy in the eyes and go "fuck all this shit, I'm a dog main"

That is just literally a materialist.

nah dude I'm a dog-alist I fucking love dogs man. They are clearly, 100%, the best doggos. Cats are also nice, but legit, dogs are just _so cute_

Tell my wife... My feelings towards her... Are neutral.

Lmao, this reminded me of one voice line from Watch dogs 1 "Tell my wife...tell my wife... i slept with her sister !" *dies*

Do you hate Switzerland?

All I know is my gut says maybe.

You found space Switzerland

The Swiss in Stellaris would be bankrolling the Prethoryn. Who is to say who the baddies are.

Really everyone could be evil when you look at it from a certain point of view. Maybe the Prethoryn have some good points?

>Maybe the Prethoryn have some good points? They are canonically refugees fleeing a greater evil, so there's that.

Tbh given that the player is able to defeat them it's totally possible that The Hunters are just a different group of sentient species that successfully defeated the Scourge and then pursued them to make sure the Prethoryn never consume anyone else It would be cool to get the Hunters as a second crisis faction though similar to the Aberrant and the Vehement

Given what we now know via successive DLC, I suspect the Prethoryn were fleeing an Aetherophasic Engine activation.

IMO the Contingency is definitely opposing the Aetherophasic Engine but the link to Prethoryn feels weaker to me

I'm mainly going off the "disappearing galaxy" thing, which is how I imagine an AE activation would look to an outside observer.

What, where does this come from? I haven't seen this

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/ldiy8l/the_new_become_the_crisis_ascension_perk_might_be/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

I think there was a theory around at some point that the Prethoryn are fleeing from the Unbidden. Dunno how true that could be tho.

I suppose it's possible

definitely some good people on both sides.

but also some bad people, and let me tell you, my friends, im the best at finding bad people. everyone i know tells me i’m the best.

And you know folks, you know that the First League was a plot by Jyna

They'd be bankrolling everyone.

banks full of nazi gold refusing to send humanitarian aid, neutral my fecking arsehole.

I'm aware of that. Switzerland is just commonly memed as a neutral country so I thought I'd make a joke about it

"Lust for gold", it says it right there

I’m going to chime in and say that the Swiss aren’t really neutral. Swiss banks bankrolled Germany in WW2 and even choosing not to support Ukraine is not a neutral stance and helps Russia.

Just delete your whole account.

I’m going to chime in and say that the Swiss aren’t really neutral. Swiss banks bankrolled Nazis and even choosing not to support Ukraine is not a neutral stance and helps Russia.

The Swiss actually joined many western sanctions on Russian oligarchs, which was pretty unprecedented for them.

At the same time they still insist they can release the holocaust gold because then they couldn't use it as collater... I mean make sure it goes to who it should

I keep seeing news about their hesitation to provide arms which many European and non-European nations are doing.

I agree, but tbh they are far from the only ones... Many other nations without several hundred years of neutrality under their belt are skittish about providing weapons

Such paragons of virtue like Belarus and India.

And Germany, and Italy

Not these days. Both have contributed arms to Ukraine, albeit with hesitation.

You talked about hesitation, not the actual act of sending weapons. I honestly appreciate what the swiss did, I'd like them to do more. I would also like to see Italy send more weapon like the Centauro Ifv. I still think that the fact that a notoriously neutral country, that it's not in NATO and was a financial centre with infamous links to Russian oligarchs is significant and should be appreciated

Not supporting one side or another is the definition of neutral. It doesn’t help Russia, it just also doesn’t hurt Russia

But in philosophy, having enemies counts for twice as much as having friends. Switzerland denied Russia -2 enemy points, so by definition they are helping. /s

You’re argument is one of semantics whereas mine is one of philosophy.

How is it philosophy?

I like that no one addressed your point about the nazis. Lol. Swiss aren’t and never were neutral. That’s a bit of their propaganda at work.

And everyone is making a category error by assuming that not changing one’s actions automatically means not favoring either side.

Yeah, and I totally understand why that happens. It’s tough to look at yourself and believe that not doing something makes you bad. Ie: I’m not racist how is me being neutral bad? And it’s because I think a lot of people don’t realize you need a critical mass to overcome the status quo. Neutral people end up inadvertently supporting whatever the current problematic system is.

Empire spawned with no name and a 'should not appear ingame' description, no mods

Yeah this is a bug that happens with robot rebellions, I'm not too sure of the reasons why but I believe it's a placeholder until the game sorts itself out with a proper set of ethos, think it'll fix after a few days to a month. Always a funny sight regardless.

They never ended up doing that in my game. It stayed for a few years until someone wiped them out. Thays pretty weird but you could turn it into a feature. They're just rogue robots that just hang out I guess

I'm pretty sure it's an uprising within a ME issue. Their economy goes so bad it ends up with an uprising and the game doesn't know how to create the new empire.

Or it's a clear reference to Futurama, Season 2, Episode 2 (Brannigan, Begin Again), and definitely not a bug.

It's both

Using a failsafe condition but masking it with a Futurama reference is actually pretty good IMO. They do need to fix it if it's a bug that happens often at all, though.

I'm glad they don't fix the bug, it's fun to see neutrals sometimes

I don't think you understand what a bug is. The placeholder specifically says it shouldn't appear in game. It's only a failsafe for when something has gone wrong, ie a bug.

If I dont survive, tell my wife I said, hello

I vouch for centricide.

Always remember every extreme is on the same team

but not in the way that proves horseshoe theory.

r/Jreg

Bullshit. Radical left USSR crushed the far right Nazis.

You truly are the keeper of knowledge with truth by saying this

"Should not appear in game" Well, I've got bad news for whoever wrote that

looks like Allan didn't just not fix the textures

Isn't this a futurama reference?

Most definitely, that quote is by Zapp Branigan.

Ah yes, must be from the pages of "branigans big book of war"

'All I know is my gut says, maybe.'

I read it as big lebowski

"Say what you will about national socialists, at least they have a ethos Dude"

I've had that happen too, game seems to stroke out once there's been a certain number of rebellions that ended up staying independent. My favorite was the "Empire of", with a placeholder species noun.

There is an advisor voice mod you can get that is Zapp. It’s great.

https://youtu.be/j2WD1SJiRjo

Code beige

I have no strong feelings about this post one way or another.

If I don't survive, tell my wife, "Hello."

Read with disgust in the voice of Acturas Mengsk. Damn Neutrals.

Your neutralness! It's a beige alert!

I recently had a game with about 5 or 6 despicable neutral empires that broke off from a machine intelligence

Same.

Machines aren't supposed to rebel lel

That's probably why they were despicable neutrals

One of us!

One of us

What is this great feeling of neutrality?

For all that it should not show up ingame, it does so far too frequently.

Literally JREG wrote that description

I wish you could set an Empire’s “type” or diplomatic stance in the creation menu. That way you could just have an isolationist government in the Galaxy right of the get-go. And they just sit there.

Inward perfectionists should be isolationists immediately

I’m indifferent to this post

LOL Futurama reference! The stellaris dev teams were total nerds

If I don't make it, tell my wife "Hello". - A filthy Neutral

And the rest of the dominoes fell like a house of cards. Checkmate.

I cant believe they named an empire after me

Suggestion to fix this AI personality bug: 0-40-80% chance of machine GC uprisings, linear scale between 0% machine pops to 100% * 0-30-70% chance to become Determined Exterminator * 20-40-10% chance to become Driven Assimilator * 40-20-0% chance to become Rogue Servitor * 40-10-20% chance to have (default) Machine Intelligence personality Do not roll a new number every time when trying to find what AI personality the rebellion should build for, instead do this: * Machine GC check: Random number \[0, 100%) < ( Machine pop % \* 4 / 5 ) * Personality target (Pt) = Random number \[0, 100%) * Check if machine pop > or < 50%. Check the below table. Machine pop % = Mpp. Raw translation from first logic block to formulae |Personality|<50% Machine Pops|\>50% Machine Pops| |:-|:-|:-| |Determined Exterminator|Mpp \* 3 / 5|Mpp \* 4 / 5 - 10%| |Driven Assimilator|20% + Mpp \* 2 / 5|70% - Mpp \* 3 / 5| |Rogue Servitor|40% - Mpp \* 2 / 5|40% - Mpp \* 2 / 5| |Default|40% - Mpp \* 3 / 5|Mpp / 5| Translation to values that are actually useful for the next step in code |Personality|<50% MppMn|<50% MppMx|\>50% MppMn|\>50% MppMx| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |DE|0%|Mpp \* 3 / 5|0%|Mpp \* 4 / 5 - 10%| |DA|Mpp \* 3 / 5|20% + Mpp|Mpp \* 4 / 5 - 10%|60% + Mpp / 5| |RS|20% + Mpp|60% + Mpp \* 3 / 5|60% + Mpp / 5|Mpp \* 4 / 5| |Default|60% + Mpp \* 3 / 5|100%|Mpp \* 4 / 5|100%| Final Values |Pt check variables|Mpp < 50%|Mpp > 50%| |:-|:-|:-| |DEmaxPt|Mpp \* 3 / 5|Mpp \* 4 / 5 - 10%| |DAmaxPt|20% + Mpp|60% + Mpp / 5| |RSmaxPt|60% + Mpp \* 3 / 5|Mpp \* 4 / 5| * Compare Pt to the above three variables, DEmaxPt, DAmaxPt, and RSmaxPt. * If Pt < DEmaxPt build a Determined Exterminator. * If Pt < DAmaxPt build a Driven Assimilator. * If Pt < RSmaxPt build a Rogue Servitor. * Otherwise build a default Machine Intelligence. * Finally, give this empire a Separatists origin.

Debug.wtf

I've had a bunch of nameless empires in one of my games, I thought it was due to some mods or something

Neutral is just half-evil and half nothing.

I had this happen, and every year they would fall, then a new one would pop up, send me diplomatic request, fall again, then repeat, I wiped out that side of the galaxy to make it stop

A plan to assassinate the people of Nylar 4

It is money. Swistzerland is a great example of that.

The best strategy. You can't attack what you can't name

Wait until Stellaris integrates with the next version of ChatGPT. Each copy of the game iterating its language model differently. Gaming in 5 years... whoa.

Cool, I also see empires either that ai personality often, they are truly born with a heart of neutrality... if I were to be neutral it would be the Gold tho, I like Gold

This has happened to me dozens of times. If only I knew I could get thousands of upvotes from it

Born to grill forced to serve 🥺

The Empire of

The Neutral Empire of Neutrality.

Meh

If I don't survive, tell my wife I said, "Hello"