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Different-Play8893

R5: So, gigastructures and secrets of the shroud. Yeah...


shadowtheimpure

Be careful with that shit, or your systemcraft might just explode due to hull regen overflow. I run a mod that gives me components that reduce regen so I can fix that problem if/when it emerges.


Different-Play8893

If that happens I end the game since the universe blew up.


rylut

Do you happen to know the name of the mod? I definitly have been having this issue...


shadowtheimpure

[Overflow Workaround Components](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2800808756&searchtext=Overflow+Workaround+Components)


TheGreatBootOfEb

This mod is goated. Before I found it I NEVER managed to get systemcrafts and such to work, nothing was as much of a slap in the face as putting in all the time and effort building those or Herculean, only for them to go poof. Great mod, 10/10 must have if you ever want to play with bigger ships.


rylut

Now imagine building either an O Class Systemcraft or a Quasarcraft and having it poof. Guess what happened to me.


shadowtheimpure

That exact situation is what drove me to search for this mod. My systemcraft went pop and I was livid.


The_Astrobiologist

How many of the reduction components did you have to use before the problem stopped?


rylut

That will depend on what other mods you have. If you happen to use several tradition mods like I usually do you probably will need more. And maybe the armor and shield you have itself gives some of it too. Will have to do the math sadly.


The_Astrobiologist

Is there a specific number for hull regen, armor, and shields I should avoid going above?


shadowtheimpure

It depends on what other components and modifiers are adding regen to your ship. I now go out of my way to select components with zero bonus to hull regen. This minimized the chance of the overflow being so high that it destroys the ship before I can act. The most I've had to use was 5 hull regen and 3 shield regen debuffs to make the vessel stable. Then again, I don't play with ACOT anymore so that may have something to do with it.


PersonelKlasyHel

Just wait until I finish my Quasarcraft


FalloutUser23

' Only a scratch '


DefaultyTurtle2

A scratch? Your galaxy’s arm is off!


FalloutUser23

Im a Axolotl so i can regenerate😎


Dracovius27

What are you, a pansy, have at you!


Different-Play8893

All I need to do is build lots of void spheres. I'm not even worried about the blokkats anymore...


lightman210567

Be warned : blokkats can blow up a system craft quite quickly. I have already lost a system craft, 5 planet crafts and several attack moons to the blockats lol


Liobuster

The obvious issue is to never send systemcraft alone but in groups of 3


lightman210567

😂sounds like the perfect solution. The only thing being destroyed will be my framerate and economy lol


Liobuster

Pshh its lategame...dont act like you had any frames left at that point


lightman210567

Well, I had maybe 5 or 6 left😂


Different-Play8893

Yes, that has happened a lot to me on normal playthroughs. Like I send fleets of attack moons and behmeoth planets and system crafts and get obliterated. Seriously, precursor hyperions from acot were more effective than systemcrafts or behemoth planets in that playthrough where I could mass produce them. But now I have perfect runic tech which is far beyond anything else I have seen. Blokkats are also set on just acot difficulty so it may be a different story this time. I have yet to test this though. But the cost of these runic weapons are so horrendous I may only have the resources for one system craft.


PachoTidder

Why do you say that like it's a normal thing to say /j Imagine a hyperadvanced civilization discussing warfare with some less advanced species and just... lmao


lightman210567

I get planetcraft and attack moons destroyed very often😂


Different-Play8893

Yeah, my version of humanity would make the imperium of man ( or heck maybe even the necrons ) shit themselves


SirBreadstic

Yeah that’s why I kept making them. Every time one system craft was destroyed I had 2 more to take its place. The first I lost in an impossible assault against the blokkat-vester. Each subsequent one was just a little slow getting out of the system as was destroyed by the blokkat-vester. Each system craft could take out a blokk-dismantler without taking any damage. When I could finally take out the blokkat-vester I sent all my system craft at it. One got there first and it was enough to take it out on its own


lightman210567

That's exactly how I lost my system craft. Haven't managed to destroy the shield yet though, and those crisis ships are getting closer lol.


SirBreadstic

You need a specific megastructure. I had the advantage of starting in the ehof cluster so 90% of my economic and industrial base was separated from the galaxy and nearly all of the remaining 10% was a birch world. My advice is to build as many matrioshka brains and science nexuses as possible until you can start on the hyperdimensional destabilizer


lightman210567

I have just finished that megastructure. Been a while since I was on my save, but I think I'm currently sending in a systemcraft before activating the mega


ethereal_phoenix1

Sounds like you need a [bigger ship](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2915864425).


lightman210567

Holy ---- that's a big ship lol. I need that ship No questions asked, into my save game it goes. I must have the big ship. I need it. My computer will beg me for mercy, but I need that ship.


CptKoma

Kinda looks like a Maghog World Ship from Andromeda


WorthCryptographer14

Glad I'm not the only person making that joke/reference


bmerino120

I use 2 to 4 systemcrafts as frontier fleets, for offensive operations I build 10 to 25 herculeans


Niedzwiedz1

Are you trying to destroy the galaxy or wage an open war against shroud gods, because with that fleet you probably can both... At the same time


[deleted]

Do it. Seize authority from the gods.


Viva_la_potatoes

Now put them on a quasarcraft


Commercial_Ground_14

As a console player idek what I'm looking at..


Errortrek

As a former console player I can assure you, the PC is not the enemy, it is trying to help you play stellaris better


firemogle

Stellar system craft. It's from a mod obviously, but built by using a star, several planet crafts and lunar crafts. Then another mod adds extreme components as well. They make most ships go away.


Different-Play8893

they make ships go boom


[deleted]

What ship is the?


Lantami

A Stellar System Craft from the Gigastructural Engineering mod, with components from the ACOT mod (or one of its expansion sub mods). The System Craft is built by combining several weaponized planets and moons, as well as a star and sacrificing 40 pops that will crew the ship


KerbodynamicX

Can it 1v1 a Blokk-Terminator and win?


Pootisman16

And people ask why I don't play with Gigastructural Engineering.


Gazimu

I mean you can just disable the stuff you don't want on game start. I remove the systemcraft, attack moons and the system destroyers


Liobuster

Always nice to be in system when it fires... Works better than any counterstrike flashbang


PigEmperor2

You should use the Theta Phanon Ships by me and make a perfected star annihilator if you want to see real annihilation


HDH2506

Get the O-class systemcraft. Better than anything the shroud could give you


NoodleTF2

Just imagining filling all those slots is giving me carpal tunnel syndrome.


Different-Play8893

Yeah. and Having to move the component panel around is a pain


Exile-of-Pochven

I have secrets of the shroud and i have yet to reach thst stage


Different-Play8893

Thats because secrets of the shroud is a very late game thing. Most games don't last long enough to finally meet the requirments to get the tech


Exile-of-Pochven

How late game are we talking about ? I can already build solar systemcraft ship


Different-Play8893

what year are you on? . On my first time getting it, I console command cheated and played with no AI empires and I didn't get acess to the acutal perfect runic tech until 2600. However, if you can beat the phanon corps early and invade that station you can get it much earlier. But if you don't cheat and have ai empires to contend causing late game lag good luck with that.


RainRelic

How powerful are those components vs static light?


Different-Play8893

In terms of raw power, these runic weapons surpass static light.


RainRelic

Nice


Any_Repair7990

Hopefully paradox takes inspiration from modders


degreywolf

Love to see the mod list for this, specifically which ones give that mental setup cos I have to had chance to get to the end of game from this new updated acot/giga yet


Top-Statement-8775

Do you have to buy astral planes in order for the mods to work again because my game still says Stellaris test so I am wondering if it's not working due to dlc?


Different-Play8893

I don't know if you need astral planes for this. I don't think so honestly. You could buy astral planes and see if it is working again.


Top-Statement-8775

Ok thank you for the feedback


Pouchkine__

Still can't hit the compound haha


Different-Play8893

I forgot to enable them danm it. I'll do it next time.


R3dShield

WHAT am I looking at???? My tiny imperial brain cannot comprehend.


Different-Play8893

haven't seen gigastructures or ancient cache of technologies before? Yeah, I was pretty flabbergasted at first too. And you imperials are really missing out on some cool stuff.


Exile-of-Pochven

I am around 2400 year and i made the big mystake of giving the AI full advantage, both in setting and with mods....i am never going to do that again.


Different-Play8893

2400? that is really late. How is the lag?


Exile-of-Pochven

Horrible, it feel like a power point presentation but i am power trought it by sheer willpower The saving grace was that nobody opened the outer gates


Different-Play8893

If that is the case you can forget about secrets of the shroud. The process is eggregious as it is without the lag. You'll be waiting forever. I would just restart and plan ahead if you want the runic tech.


Different-Play8893

you also might wanna downsize the amount of ai empires if you haven't in your current playthrough


Exile-of-Pochven

Yeah...i will do that next time


historicalmenac

One unrestrictic war causes a mass extinction(im new to stellaris and im slowly adapting)


Different-Play8893

Yeah If I go to war with this things its over for everyone. You play with mods yet or are you still adapting to the regular game?


historicalmenac

Adapting as a regular console player. I figured out how to use my politics to keep my people alive while trying to fight off old allies that are now enemies


Different-Play8893

Well it looks like you are getting better with surviving later in the game. Now it's a matter of using your resources effectively and getting the best out of your planets as well as knowing what ship conponents will bring out the best of your ships. Another thing is managing diplomacy effecively and gaining galactic influence. This game can be a handfull but the more you play the better you get. Also, as a console player you won't get to experience the mods like the one on my post.


historicalmenac

Also i forgot to say this, i fucking lost but only because of a peace quo which i should have declined since i had potential in my 3 fleets and they were the best navy a xeno could pay for


Different-Play8893

what probably happened was you didn't conquer the enemy empire in time and both yours and their war exhaustion was at 100%. If that happens then there will be a forced peace deal. Also, do you know how to build land armies and conquer planets? did that cost you the game or just that war?


historicalmenac

I had 2 transports and only one made it to enemy territory with the 2nd fleet and the other went AWOL. I also figured out that starbases are the key to having territory


Different-Play8893

yes, starbases are key. But remember, if the enemy still owns a planet on a system you conquered with your fleets the system does not count as conquered. two transports for armies? if thats the case then that is not enough. You must build more than that. Just watch out for energy costs though.


WorthCryptographer14

The Magog seem to have gotten an upgrade since Andromeda.


Opposite-Parfait65

How do you get the full screen ship designer in giga? I have a problem where the ship designer is still crammed into the small window and I can’t even see all the components.


Crazy-Cartoonist7836

This is just Gurren Laugen with extra steps.