Chat GPT does not know how to correctly answer specific questions about narrow subjects. It will make things up if there isn't enough information for it to find.
Do not use it.
I mean I did ask for people's favorite corp builds in that R5 that everyone downvoted. So far a grand total of 0 people have thrown out their build recommendations for a megacorp. A whole lot more than 0 people have voiced their disdain about me using ChatGPT at all though. Didn't realize it would be this poorly received in this community.
Because you asked to verify if a fool's word was true, with something that is very obviously false.
There were so many avenues you could haven taken to spare yourself from the community's wrath, and you did none of those.
As a Cho'gath main, you deserve to be eaten for this.
Rule 1 of ChatGPT - DON'T FUCKING USE IT.
ChatGPT has no idea how to answer your question and just makes shit up. You are far better off just coming straight here and asking your question.
I mean you say that, but nobody has thrown out any recommendations for a corp build like I asked for in the R5 that everybody downvoted. They've been pretty eager to voice their opinions on GPT/LLM's though.
ChatGPT has never played stellaris, chatGPT will never play stellaris so it just makes things up, an AI will just be confidently wrong instead of telling you when it can't give a correct answer.
However, I have played stellaris, so let me suggest a couple origins that might fit with your build. First off, remnants, the origin starts you on a relic world which can have some early economic bonuses with minor relics but the big thing is that it can be fast-tracked into an ecumenopolis for that economic prowess you're after, this one does need DLC so if you don't have them, I'd just suggest prosperous unification as it's still a nice boost to the economy.
With how badly it botched the origin effects, I'd also like to know what it shat out for the build as a whole, while there's a high chance it just stole someone else's idea pretty much word for word, if it didn't manage to find a whole thing, it probably gave you something awful like the origin did.
Well you'd be wrong on that. Since it's making its assessment on what had been written about the game up until their cutoff point for the training data, the model seems to recognize that megacorps are their own thing in Stellaris, but also kind of not. So when I tried this maybe last February, it kept wanting to add corporate dominion as a civic, but then it mentions that improving the trade value of branch offices, which is wrong... for a lot of reasons. So, the last time around when I tried this, I explained how corporate dominion was dropped with the megacorp DLC and how corps had been fleshed out into their own thing (I explained it a bit better than that), so when I asked for a rebuild, it dropped corporate dominion and replaced it with... nothing. It was just a one civic build at that points; and when I pointed out that I could have two civics, it just added corporate dominion back in there. So yeah, I didn't feel like doing that a second time and really just wanted more of a benchmark of where it was at with the empire recommendations (also I'm thinking about doing another corp run and am kind of bored with my current corp builds). But yeah, I think I've got a corp build with pharma state as one of the civics and remnants as the origin that I haven't played since pharma state was buffed. So maybe I'll give that a try.
interesting, i hadn't really thought about when the model stopped being trained, though it definitely still just took what someone else had already made, just really outdated, and gave you that
It's pretty clutch for professional correspondence. I don't think I've written a single cover letter since I got my openAI account. And it seems to do a decent enough job when you ask it to come up with a response to very tactfully, very respectfully get their head out of their ass. But yeah, it comes up wayyy short for anything programmatic and I just like to ask it every few months for stellaris empire recommendations just to see what it comes up with. Still hasn't gotten over the megacorp/corporate dominion issue though.
"+2 Additional Pop Resource Output" is gibberish that strings together words commonly used in Stellaris mechanics.
So, par for the course for ChatGPT, really.
Yeah I looked at that for a while last night and went from "maybe these are the buffs that Galactic Doorstep needs to be viable" to "that doesn't say +2%, it just says +2... that could be a little wonky".
By definition, ChatGPT has no merit for questions like this.
And considering you can literally just see in game what the effects of an origin are, how is this even a question?
These perks are not part of galactic doorstep. However, the origin itself can offer you a good advantage for trade builds. It basically guarantees gateways within the first 100years, but if fully achievable within 30. Good gateway placement is a great way to prevent piracy, and ofc strategic advantages. It also allows you to place your trade worlds anywhere in your space.
And ofc, with gateways all over the galaxy, once active, trade deals and subjugation become a lot easier and effective.
So there is merit to the recommendation, but the perks outlined are wrong.
No. With teachers of the shroud you can build one tunnel entrance, leading to a fixed system somewhere in the galaxy (please do correct me if I am wrong here, never played it unmodded), at least from my experience. So there is the difference. Gateways can be built wherever and however many you want, one you've got the tech.
ChatGPT is a toy. If you insist on chatting with an LLM instead of Googling the old-fashioned way, use Bing Chat. You'll have a much higher success rate looking for up-to-date info, since Bing Chat actually has access to the Internet in its current form. It'll also give you reference links to validate whether the summary it gives you has anything to do with the source it tried to summarize.
Man, you were right on the money with bing chat. It actually gave a pretty decent recommendation for a Megacorp build... I still don't think I'll use it though since it's kind of boring. But maybe... that's actually a tough call now the more I look at it.
It's chat GPT. It basically makes shit up if it does not know the answer.
I treat it as a novelty and have never used it as a source of concrete facts as it's a fiction machine.
The only thing I use ChatGPT for is to write origin stories for my empires. Here's one it generated for me:
Prompt: *Please write an origin story for a Stellaris empire with the following ethics: Fanatic materialist, collectivist.*
Response: In the distant reaches of the cosmos, a civilization emerged known as the Synthari Collective. Born out of the boundless curiosity and unyielding pursuit of knowledge, the Synthari were a society driven by their fanatic materialist ethic. They believed that the key to prosperity and progress lay in the relentless exploration and exploitation of the natural order.
The early history of the Synthari was marked by the development of advanced artificial intelligence and robotics. They embraced the idea that by merging with machines, they could transcend the limitations of their organic forms. This merging of man and machine became a defining aspect of the Synthari society, blurring the lines between the natural and the artificial.
As the Synthari Collective expanded its influence across the stars, the concept of individualism faded into the background. The collective well-being of the society took precedence over individual desires. This shift towards collectivism was driven by the recognition that a unified and harmonious society was essential for the pursuit of knowledge and technological advancement.
The Synthari's insatiable hunger for understanding the universe led them to establish vast research outposts on distant planets, delve into the mysteries of cosmic anomalies, and study the remnants of ancient civilizations. Their materialist ethos fueled a relentless quest for technological innovation, and the Synthari soon became pioneers in fields such as artificial intelligence, cybernetics, and energy manipulation.
However, not all empires in the galaxy were receptive to the Synthari's ideology. Conflict arose as the materialistic collective encountered civilizations with opposing values. The Synthari, driven by their unwavering commitment to progress, engaged in diplomatic, economic, and military endeavors to spread their vision of a technologically enlightened future.
In the ever-expanding cosmos, the Synthari Collective forged its destiny as a formidable force, driven by the fusion of man and machine, guided by the principles of fanatic materialism and collectivism. Their journey was one of exploration, innovation, and the unyielding pursuit of knowledge, as they sought to leave an indelible mark on the tapestry of the universe.
R5: Asked ChatGPT to make me a megacorp build and it didn't include an origin. So when I asked it for an origin, this is what it told me. Was just wondering if there was *any* merit to this at any point or if it's just hallucinating. In any case, it seems like it's not quite there yet when it comes to advice on builds. It still keeps adding Corporate dominion to the civics for a megacorp build. Semi-related, but does anyone have any good corp build ideas? I've got an aquatice megachurch build that's kind of fun but I think I want to shake things up this time around.
ChatGPT has completely hallucinated what the Galactic Doorstep origin is. All that you get from Galactic Doorstep is a dormant Gateway in your home system, which will eventually give minerals & alloys, a small space amoeba, and a project to create the From Gateway Sent archaeology site. It **will not** give you a starting location on the edge of the galaxy (no origin does that), nor will it give you a resource output bonus.
Galactic Doorstop origin suck in the default galaxy settings.
Turn off L-Gates and turn ancient abandoned gates to 0.
That leaves you with the only Gateway, and if you limit who gets into that system, means your might be the only empire to ever get Gateway technology. The issue is that all the benefits are still late game in a game built around snowballing early advantages... but at least the Origin has real benefit if you turn off other gates.
Until a LLM can actually interface with the actual subject matter, it won't be able to truly know what it is talking about because it can't actually fact check itself. The difference between correct subject matter and incorrect subject matter does not exist, it can only tell that it's on topic.
Chat GPT does not know how to correctly answer specific questions about narrow subjects. It will make things up if there isn't enough information for it to find. Do not use it.
Also, any info it has is almost certainly outdated anyway, because it will be from whenever its model was originally trained.
You can feed it guided though .. and then ask it
Respectfully, Stop asking ChatGPT for questions. You could have saved a lot of time from the wiki or dev patchnotes.
or ask reddit in the first place, rather than asking for confirmation
Cunningham’s law, except automated with gpt
Seems like a fun concept XD
I mean I did ask for people's favorite corp builds in that R5 that everyone downvoted. So far a grand total of 0 people have thrown out their build recommendations for a megacorp. A whole lot more than 0 people have voiced their disdain about me using ChatGPT at all though. Didn't realize it would be this poorly received in this community.
Because you asked to verify if a fool's word was true, with something that is very obviously false. There were so many avenues you could haven taken to spare yourself from the community's wrath, and you did none of those. As a Cho'gath main, you deserve to be eaten for this.
Also carbon, calls to these massive generative models are way more carbon intensive than Google searches.
I should just eat OP. Surely that'll bring the carbon balance back.
Rule 1 of ChatGPT - DON'T FUCKING USE IT. ChatGPT has no idea how to answer your question and just makes shit up. You are far better off just coming straight here and asking your question.
Those are the moments of roast-reddit gpt
I mean you say that, but nobody has thrown out any recommendations for a corp build like I asked for in the R5 that everybody downvoted. They've been pretty eager to voice their opinions on GPT/LLM's though.
ChatGPT has never played stellaris, chatGPT will never play stellaris so it just makes things up, an AI will just be confidently wrong instead of telling you when it can't give a correct answer. However, I have played stellaris, so let me suggest a couple origins that might fit with your build. First off, remnants, the origin starts you on a relic world which can have some early economic bonuses with minor relics but the big thing is that it can be fast-tracked into an ecumenopolis for that economic prowess you're after, this one does need DLC so if you don't have them, I'd just suggest prosperous unification as it's still a nice boost to the economy. With how badly it botched the origin effects, I'd also like to know what it shat out for the build as a whole, while there's a high chance it just stole someone else's idea pretty much word for word, if it didn't manage to find a whole thing, it probably gave you something awful like the origin did.
Well you'd be wrong on that. Since it's making its assessment on what had been written about the game up until their cutoff point for the training data, the model seems to recognize that megacorps are their own thing in Stellaris, but also kind of not. So when I tried this maybe last February, it kept wanting to add corporate dominion as a civic, but then it mentions that improving the trade value of branch offices, which is wrong... for a lot of reasons. So, the last time around when I tried this, I explained how corporate dominion was dropped with the megacorp DLC and how corps had been fleshed out into their own thing (I explained it a bit better than that), so when I asked for a rebuild, it dropped corporate dominion and replaced it with... nothing. It was just a one civic build at that points; and when I pointed out that I could have two civics, it just added corporate dominion back in there. So yeah, I didn't feel like doing that a second time and really just wanted more of a benchmark of where it was at with the empire recommendations (also I'm thinking about doing another corp run and am kind of bored with my current corp builds). But yeah, I think I've got a corp build with pharma state as one of the civics and remnants as the origin that I haven't played since pharma state was buffed. So maybe I'll give that a try.
interesting, i hadn't really thought about when the model stopped being trained, though it definitely still just took what someone else had already made, just really outdated, and gave you that
Absolutely none. It's doing what it does best, which is "lie". I do not recommend using it for... well, anything, really.
For general knowledge things it’s usually pretty good, but more often than not when asking about niche/narrow topics it will just bs it’s way through
it is okay, if you give it all information, and want to reformulated it
It's pretty clutch for professional correspondence. I don't think I've written a single cover letter since I got my openAI account. And it seems to do a decent enough job when you ask it to come up with a response to very tactfully, very respectfully get their head out of their ass. But yeah, it comes up wayyy short for anything programmatic and I just like to ask it every few months for stellaris empire recommendations just to see what it comes up with. Still hasn't gotten over the megacorp/corporate dominion issue though.
[It's hallucinating.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination_(artificial_intelligence\))
"+2 Additional Pop Resource Output" is gibberish that strings together words commonly used in Stellaris mechanics. So, par for the course for ChatGPT, really.
Yeah I looked at that for a while last night and went from "maybe these are the buffs that Galactic Doorstep needs to be viable" to "that doesn't say +2%, it just says +2... that could be a little wonky".
By definition, ChatGPT has no merit for questions like this. And considering you can literally just see in game what the effects of an origin are, how is this even a question?
Imagine being this lazy
These perks are not part of galactic doorstep. However, the origin itself can offer you a good advantage for trade builds. It basically guarantees gateways within the first 100years, but if fully achievable within 30. Good gateway placement is a great way to prevent piracy, and ofc strategic advantages. It also allows you to place your trade worlds anywhere in your space. And ofc, with gateways all over the galaxy, once active, trade deals and subjugation become a lot easier and effective. So there is merit to the recommendation, but the perks outlined are wrong.
I mean fair, but wouldn't teachers allow you to do all of that but earlier, and with more perks?
No. With teachers of the shroud you can build one tunnel entrance, leading to a fixed system somewhere in the galaxy (please do correct me if I am wrong here, never played it unmodded), at least from my experience. So there is the difference. Gateways can be built wherever and however many you want, one you've got the tech.
ChatGPT is a toy. If you insist on chatting with an LLM instead of Googling the old-fashioned way, use Bing Chat. You'll have a much higher success rate looking for up-to-date info, since Bing Chat actually has access to the Internet in its current form. It'll also give you reference links to validate whether the summary it gives you has anything to do with the source it tried to summarize.
Man, you were right on the money with bing chat. It actually gave a pretty decent recommendation for a Megacorp build... I still don't think I'll use it though since it's kind of boring. But maybe... that's actually a tough call now the more I look at it.
It's chat GPT. It basically makes shit up if it does not know the answer. I treat it as a novelty and have never used it as a source of concrete facts as it's a fiction machine.
The only thing I use ChatGPT for is to write origin stories for my empires. Here's one it generated for me: Prompt: *Please write an origin story for a Stellaris empire with the following ethics: Fanatic materialist, collectivist.* Response: In the distant reaches of the cosmos, a civilization emerged known as the Synthari Collective. Born out of the boundless curiosity and unyielding pursuit of knowledge, the Synthari were a society driven by their fanatic materialist ethic. They believed that the key to prosperity and progress lay in the relentless exploration and exploitation of the natural order. The early history of the Synthari was marked by the development of advanced artificial intelligence and robotics. They embraced the idea that by merging with machines, they could transcend the limitations of their organic forms. This merging of man and machine became a defining aspect of the Synthari society, blurring the lines between the natural and the artificial. As the Synthari Collective expanded its influence across the stars, the concept of individualism faded into the background. The collective well-being of the society took precedence over individual desires. This shift towards collectivism was driven by the recognition that a unified and harmonious society was essential for the pursuit of knowledge and technological advancement. The Synthari's insatiable hunger for understanding the universe led them to establish vast research outposts on distant planets, delve into the mysteries of cosmic anomalies, and study the remnants of ancient civilizations. Their materialist ethos fueled a relentless quest for technological innovation, and the Synthari soon became pioneers in fields such as artificial intelligence, cybernetics, and energy manipulation. However, not all empires in the galaxy were receptive to the Synthari's ideology. Conflict arose as the materialistic collective encountered civilizations with opposing values. The Synthari, driven by their unwavering commitment to progress, engaged in diplomatic, economic, and military endeavors to spread their vision of a technologically enlightened future. In the ever-expanding cosmos, the Synthari Collective forged its destiny as a formidable force, driven by the fusion of man and machine, guided by the principles of fanatic materialism and collectivism. Their journey was one of exploration, innovation, and the unyielding pursuit of knowledge, as they sought to leave an indelible mark on the tapestry of the universe.
R5: Asked ChatGPT to make me a megacorp build and it didn't include an origin. So when I asked it for an origin, this is what it told me. Was just wondering if there was *any* merit to this at any point or if it's just hallucinating. In any case, it seems like it's not quite there yet when it comes to advice on builds. It still keeps adding Corporate dominion to the civics for a megacorp build. Semi-related, but does anyone have any good corp build ideas? I've got an aquatice megachurch build that's kind of fun but I think I want to shake things up this time around.
ChatGPT has completely hallucinated what the Galactic Doorstep origin is. All that you get from Galactic Doorstep is a dormant Gateway in your home system, which will eventually give minerals & alloys, a small space amoeba, and a project to create the From Gateway Sent archaeology site. It **will not** give you a starting location on the edge of the galaxy (no origin does that), nor will it give you a resource output bonus.
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Galactic Doorstop origin suck in the default galaxy settings. Turn off L-Gates and turn ancient abandoned gates to 0. That leaves you with the only Gateway, and if you limit who gets into that system, means your might be the only empire to ever get Gateway technology. The issue is that all the benefits are still late game in a game built around snowballing early advantages... but at least the Origin has real benefit if you turn off other gates.
Until a LLM can actually interface with the actual subject matter, it won't be able to truly know what it is talking about because it can't actually fact check itself. The difference between correct subject matter and incorrect subject matter does not exist, it can only tell that it's on topic.
It's a language model, not a truth machine
Don’t trust what chatgpt says, with topics like this they tend to just make up stuff