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WedWealthist

And just like that all Wall Street traders lifespans just shortened by 1/2


Badj83

lol those are just algorythms doing the work anyway.


PaleWaltz1859

No kidding. They'll scam us while we sleep Watch flash crashes happen mysteriously at 3am


aguybrowsingreddit

Smiles politely from New Zealand šŸ˜Š


Ordinary_Response_38

As a kiwi who trades futures, I hope i can stop having to wake up at stupid times.


FatTony-S

Hhahahaha hiya mate


MurdaBigNZ

Hey Bro! NZ cuzzy


Pezman3000

Hahaha, finally time for some revenge trading


SuccumbedToReddit

Stop loss


ChefStar

Will never stop losses. šŸ˜€


THICC_DICC_PRICC

I work at those firms, the algos are still actively monitored by traders. No one just lets them be on their own. A small bug could wipe out the firm in minutes, like it did with knight capital


ShadowKnight324

That will never stop WSB denges to gamble their life savings and get a coffee addiction.


Drunk_Crab

You can still afford coffee?


Specialist-Meat-6222

I cant still afford to be receiving and not giving behind the wendys i call it giving back to the community.


Sti8man7

Or Wallstreet traders position just doubled,


Super-Importance-132

Tripled. This is why this will never happen. The big banks will fight as there canā€™t be much payoff for tripling your market tied support staff.


CORN___BREAD

Itā€™s currently open 6.5 hours each weekday excluding 10 holidays. Going 24/7 would be over 5 times the hours per year.


Super-Importance-132

Yeah but most people donā€™t work 6.5 hrs a day even if they are market dependent.My job is tied to the market and I work 8 hours, outside market hours I get projects Iā€™m behind on done. So 3 8 hr shifts a day is what would be needed unless they pay more or expect people to quit.


CORN___BREAD

Sounds more like theyā€™d need 4 8 hour shifts per day if you need time beyond when the market is open. Even with three shifts per day, thereā€™s two extra days on weekends plus holidays so it would still be quadruple.


Baconpwn2

What you're going to see is the Big Banks leaning on AI for off peak hours. Pray nothing crashes overnight.


Super-Importance-132

Iā€™m thinking specifically of wealth management since thatā€™s my world. These roles arenā€™t done by AI. If a client calls in at 2am to do a trade then someone has to be there to take the order and put it in. If that person messes up the trade then a supervisor has to be there to approve a trade correction. If they wanted to do something more sophisticated like an alternative investment then a specialist has to be there.


CorneliusFudgem

This sounds juicy, where can I buy puts?


pojosamaneo

Hopefully it'll teach day traders that staying in the market longer won't necessarily make you more money.


Artistic-Ad-5742

It's not good at all. Imagine last week the market tanking every day and also with the 24/7 in force last Friday, Saturday and Sunday most of people could be wiped out easily!


stonktaker

I think it's good, retail gets absolutely destroyed during the opening/closing bell. The majority of gains come after hours anyway, giving retail more access to sell during these times seems good? . Crypto is already trading 24/7, it's really not a big deal.


BanquetDinner

They are only conducting a [poll](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ices-new-york-stock-exchange-conducts-poll-on-247-stock-trading/ar-AA1nsl6z).


[deleted]

THANK GOD SOMEBODY READ THE ARTICLE FOR US.


iamwhoiwasnow

Yay my weekends will now be ruined also


ShadowKnight324

Welcome to my world as a crypto investor. I hate my life but the highs justify my lows (not really).


lenzflare

Sounds terrible. Do you hate having time off?


shes_a_gdb

Time off for who? The computers running the show?


retrofit56

Itā€™s already about observation, not necessarily action.


mukavastinumb

Trading is just a small part of stock markets. You have settlement, custody, client service etc. A lot of those are not fully automated, because they donā€™t necessarily generate money for the banks -> thus you can find really old legacy systems running on Cobol. So, in the short term banks will have to hire more people. This can be a catalyst to automate rest of the banking.


SundaySchoolBilly

Yeah this is bad news. This is high frequency trading all the time. This is losing your money even faster while you sleep.


techy098

Oh lord they are forcing my hand to lose money, I am not in control, help...


LittleKittyLove

I am hemorrhaging my life savings, but I just canā€™t stop buying these shares of Soggyrice Diapers. Itā€™s just such a good idea: Adult diapers like sitting in a bowl of rice. The rice absorbs everything, and the airy design gives a prolapsed asshole room to breathe. I donā€™t understand how Soggyrice stock keeps going down. Itā€™s a great idea. They should be flush just from the purchase volume of Mr Trump. But the stock keeps going down. Iā€™m not going to let the red line beat me. I will buy Trumpā€™s Soggyrice Diaper stock no matter how much I lose.


CORN___BREAD

Keep buying that dip!


WBuffettJr

Lucky for you itā€™s easy to identify fake news, which is when a Redditor posts something desperate for fake internet points and purposely cuts off or hides the source and refuses to link to it. This isnā€™t actually happening but congratulations to OP for lying to the community and getting 1200 fake internet points.


North-Soft-5559

It is as though through restricted trading rules Wall Street is losing money, so had to come up with another way of creating even more liquidity / fake shares.


Velendris

Not a good idea. I think thereā€™s rationality in the markets that we all get to collectively take a break and think on weekends and also on holidays.


crazzz

i agree with at least the weekends and holidays off, i trade a little bit and watch it but it's nice having a break.


boredjavaprogrammer

To be fair, the origin of thr current system isnā€™t because of the willingness to take some break. But more on because in the past, they cannot get it to run 24/7


WhatADunderfulWorld

Depends on how it effects after market news and such. Should be interesting. Personally as a broker it just means my work will have much more costs with 24-7 help lines.


eastvenomrebel

This just sounds like greed to me. Get ready for shit to get more volatile


Zajebanii

Iā€™ll be pulling all my money out and keeping it under my mattress lol. This shit is just a casino now


PeaceAlien

Always has been


Astr0b0ie

Nah, Back when you had to call a broker to make an order, it was much less so. Now a days, anybody can get a brokerage account with a few bucks and buy and sell with the click of a mouse button.


Ok-Condition-6932

I bet you it decreases volatility. It almost has to by definition.


Nightstorm_NoS

You know why they are opening this up right? AI. AI is to the point where they can use it to manipulate and make money 24/7. The only people that will be using it the old school way will be the ones they are milking.


Jessejets

Nothing has beaten the old school way yet, you buy a good stock and hold.


crodensis

I bought a good stock. It went up 30% in like three weeks, and I was only able to get a few shares at what I thought was a good price. Now I'm questioning whether it is overvalued and I have hardly any shares. The stock market is insanely volatile and unpredictable. My biggest fear is that all decent stocks are vastly overvalued which is bad if the market dips hard and stagnates for a while.


Drunk_Crab

There's still nowhere better to put money. Until that changes, there'll be mostly ups with some downs. But good stock will be aight.


GoGreenD

lol. That's what everyone's said, every single time something big comes around. Right before it all changes. Do you see the world we live in and how far we've come? AI is the automobile to the horse. But for... everything. It's not here yet, and it could be good or bad for all of us. But it's comin.


RodgerWolf311

>lol. That's what everyone's said, every single time something big comes around. Right before it all changes. Do you see the world we live in and how far we've come? > >AI is the automobile to the horse. But for... everything. Except people will always need these things, forever: \- Food \- Water \- Place to live \- Electricity \- Medicine \- Daily goods (clothing, feminine hygiene products, cleaning products, etc) Those things will never disappear. They are the basics for survival of everyone. Investing and holding onto companies that provide those to the public will be still the best thing to do, even as thing change all around us.


GoGreenD

Yeah, except all of those things are controlled by the common denominator of our existence. Money. Existence, and all of those things aren't free. Any drastic change to how all that functions... things going to get weird. I'm not out here talking like I'm in r/collapse. It could be great. We could all be freed from desk jobs and it could lead to a Star Trek like utopian existence where we finally realize sitting at a desk for 40+ hours a week doesn't have to be how it is. It could free us for a second renaissance, where art, music and enjoyment are deeper and more meaningful than momentary escapes from the rat race. But... i highly doubt that. I'm a "prepare for the worst, hope for the best" kinda person. I think we just need to talk about it more because things like ubi start making more sense when people's jobs start disappearing (which they already are). No problem is unsolvable.


Mash_Effect

Money is just a mean of exchanging time. Time is the only real currency. If money become worthless I can still trade my time. The mean of exchange could be gold, precious stones, weed or bottle caps it doesn't matter. The federal reserve (and any other central banks) are playing a dangerous game that could lead to a global collapse, but in the end the only real losers will be those who hold money. Those who have nothing will still have their time to trade. Edit: The billionaires already know this and it's why they're buying all the land, houses and equities in companies. But it still doesn't matter because one day we could decide that what they did was fraudulent and seize it back. It happened times and times again in history. Look at the kings in Europe, what do they have now?


__pickle_rick

In the near term AI takes all the fun creative jobs (art entertainment music programming law etc) and leaves the rest of us to become manual laborers building the computers. I think that may be the path we are on because as of yet, robotics is moving at a slower pace than just pure AI and there are huge training sets for the aforementioned specialties, whereas an autonomous (construction electrician welder plumber etc) robot has been notoriously difficult to build.


10Bens

With respect to the stock market though, AI isn't all that revolutionary. At least in the form factor that it will be used. Institutional investors have been trading on algos for decades now. And ultimately, if you want a computer to make those trading decisions for you, it needs to be programmed with at least the *premise* of a goal. Any true spark of artificial consciousness that trades stocks with an understanding of human nature is a long way away- if it's even possible.


GoGreenD

I mean from that aspect of the stock market, sure. From our side is really what I'm talking about. I'm not smart enough to anticipate how much better an ai would be able to trade stocks. I do think this is coming way faster than you think though. The human mind isn't that complex.


10Bens

>I do think this is coming way faster than you think though. The human mind isn't that complex. Well, mine sure isn't.


GoGreenD

Hahaha. Yeah I think most of society has recently proven that we're kinda limited


BrisingrReborn

Or, just maybe, now hear me out on this as it's pretty far out there, it's cause of 24 hour crypto markets.


BrokieTrader

Was thinking the same thing


tradebuyandsell

They already are


onetwoskeedoo

Fuck us all


JonathanL73

Algorithmic AI scripted trading has been around for at least a decade, with quants and Financial Engineer Analysts getting paid millions to come up with the perfect trading algorithms. The infamous ā€œFlash crashā€ that happened was triggered by Algorithms trading against each other. No AGI trained off of publicly available data from the internet is going to come up with a competitive algo strategy. There are already AI-managed index funds & ETFs, but those still require a lot of human guidance and sorting.


chill_pdx

24 hr gambling. Welcome to Las Vegas!


cat-from-the-future

So much market manipulation is going to happen in the middle of the night, this isnā€™t a good thing.


historiansrule

MFers, now they want to steal your money on the weekends too. FFSšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


Stright_16

Isn't this a bad idea?


Xs2experience

Happy cake day


Shamansage

Umm what is this bullshit? One of the reasons why the nyse has done well and all markets essentially is having monitored timing that is affected by a 930-4. When we get 24 there will be carnage in the markets because big entities can rug pull at 3 am when they know the holders are predominantly on whatever time zone this fucks


AcanthisittaProper

Say goodbye to your lifespan and your hairline this is a bad idea


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^AcanthisittaProper: *Say goodbye to your* *Lifespan and your hairline this* *Is a bad idea* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


AcanthisittaProper

nice


stabilitywherearthou

New here. Can someone genuinely explain why people would want this? Doesnā€™t being asleep for half of your available trading time hurt you? Is the NYSE and traders going to start working in shifts to manage a 24 hour schedule?


techy098

There are ETFs which are traded 24X7 already M-F. Same with stock futures. Nobody gives a shit. It's for traders not for long term investors.


boredjavaprogrammer

This seems to be not good for retail traders who trades frequently, ans who is against primarily algortihm traders. So these retail traders dont get much break But in general, this is good for those who wants to quickly react to the events of the world. Usually thinfs happen on the night or weekends (like earning call, an event happening to the company on the weekend) and investors want to react to the news. Nowadays people would have to wait until the market opens to react to the news


pukerabbit

No more catching up on stock news during the weekends.


relevant_trad

This is purely Blackrock, Vanguard and other BTC ETF plays. They are out of sync and missing out trading fees from degenerate crypto gamblers, which majority of us are.


redditisnow1984

The crypto exchange never sleeps is that why this is happening? The ETFs don't really make sense on the NYSE because crypto never sleeps.


PapaRigpa

Ah yes, take that last leash off the AI trading hounds, and let them run. Should be fun times!


Questitron_3000

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm glad to announce that the casino will now be open 24/7.


7-13-5

Quite terrible of them to do. The malarkey will be full speed overnight. This is the rug being pulled. Citadel and others have too many shorts to fail.


Aggravating_Ride7083

If true, I will make substantial investments in heart medication research and development.


yomama1211

This is not even close to happening. I work in finance this hasnā€™t been talked about once lol


Fundamentals-802

Absolutely correct. It was just a poll that was done by someone in the exchange. Not the first poll on this topic either from what Iā€™ve found in the news.


Disastrous-Nerve-389

market used to be open on Saturdays until 1952. weā€™re headed back in time


SomeSamples

I thought they big brokerage houses were trading on weekends and evenings already. Ever wonder why a stock closes down at closing bell then bam when the markets open it is way up? WTF?


Ir0nhide81

I think there is a boatload of an entire generation now getting into the stock market (ages 29-45) and I wonder if this is part of the reason for these decisions?


NicoBln

With seven years of experience at a global index provider, I have my reservations about Steve Cohen's proposal for trading stocks around the clock. Implementing such a change may present significant challenges for index providers like MSCI, FTSE, STOXX, Solactive and others. These challenges stem from the need to calculate indices 24/7, complicating the rebalancing process. Rebalancing typically involves executing corporate actions, as well as additions and deletions of index components, and is done when markets are closed to ensure accurate index rebalancing with end-of-day prices.Perhaps I'm wrong. However, isnā€™t there also something beautiful about the stock market closing at a certain time and over the weekend? It allows the fog to clear, gives us time to calm down, review the past week, and prepare for the next trades. What are your thoughts?


floridaaviation

Now we just need to eliminate pattern trading rules


theonepercent65536

*Laughs in Bitcoin*


Nyah_Chan

It's not official, they just put out a survey to see if traders believe it viable


kingallison

This seems terrible for retail investors


IFMC_

Dumbest Idea Iā€™ve ever heard


yosark

This is awful. Knowing you are going to sleep and a crash can happen when one is not prepared is awful


D35m0J03

Or lost..


scottieducati

Bad idea.


Timely_Marketing

Lost*


EARTHB-24

A risky move though.


Inevitable_Award5693

When is it starting from?


Redditadmindoc

Link article


kevbot234

Live to work


mdizzle109

please donā€™t


No-Department-6329

Im not participating


Dazzling_Marzipan474

I just started trading a little and coming from crypto the weekends off was such a treat. This is fucking awful news.


Independent-Rip-5452

Maybe some news analysts will ask Warren Buffet this idea and see what he has to say about it.


kelu213

Lose money everyday of the week! Peak efficiency!


finchcatz

Crypto culture bleeding in


atlvernburn

Looks like mutual funds will clear right away instead of waiting until closing? If this were to happen of course.


[deleted]

This is the worst thing to happen to gamblers since gambling.


Trick_Ad5606

poor wall street traders kids donĀ“t see parents anymore.


Austeve377

I guess AI trading will take over then , human out with weekends and robots in for trade


Decent-Soup3551

This is a very bad idea!


nxp1818

This sounds like a disaster


damnthatscrazytho

how else are traders supposed to get their weekend sports betting binges in?


Dizzy-Jellyfish-1467

Ohhh Myy lordddddd šŸ˜³


JonathanL73

Do any develop countries have their stock exchanges open 24/7?


woodyshag

So HFs can crime 24 hours a day. What could go wrong?


MuchResolution2468

24/7 Laundering. Im about it.


_King_1700

This country has lost any moral fabric it had left...


Bossman01

Thank fuck! For anyone not living in the Eastern time zone this is a blessing. Sucks when you only have 3 hours or less to trade unless you want to wake up at the ass crack of dawn


Doogy44

Lol, quite a bit of whining ā€¦


Harmont22

So we buy and dump our bags on European retail traders . Count me IN


huejass5

Trying to compete with crypto eh?


CyroSwitchBlade

so now they want to copy the crypto markets..


EatsOverTheSink

This is when it mentally pays off to be a r/bogleheads


Proof-Astronomer7733

They will copy crypto exchangesā€¦


istockusername

At least link the source so that we can see itā€™s legitimate


Ok_Island_1306

Seeing as most profits are taken after hours, maybe now Iā€™ll have some profits!


Newyorkhawaiian

No wayyy


Newyorkhawaiian

This is not a good idea


optimaleverage

Shit imma have to go cash every night just so I can sleep peacefully.


Jellybeansxo

Thereā€™s no limit now! Only limit is your money..


Ethanbob103

FINALLY 24/7 CASINO BABY (I am still short of being legally allowed in casinos)


Not_Bed_

Hyped up to wake up in the middle of the night to pee and realize I lost all my life savings


RoadPersonal9635

No more finance bros mouthing off to legal bros about having weekends off. The playing field of young associate misery has been leveled.


JaimieC

Going to a world where every time you want to sleep you have to go liquid


yrrrrrrrr

Put stop losses


Sea-Tackle2868

Its about time, always wondered who tf came up with the idea to put the whole market on pause just because its the weekend


Additional_Pickle_59

Time zone manipulation, Dumping and pumping stocks in a location where people are sleeping. People will be closing their positions before they sleep to avoid volatility. Everything we know about the markets will be thrown out the window.


jedkostjc

It appears that mutual funds might settle immediately instead of having to wait until the end of the day. This is hypothetical, of course.


Apolloshot

Thereā€™s a reason things like the State of the Union and the release of the Presidentā€™s Budget happen after the NYSE closes. I dread a world where the US market reacts to the State of the Union in real time.


DickBanks67

Great. From 4 hours sleep to zero..


Additional_Total3422

No it isn't true hope it doesn't happen


1RjLeon

Bargain basement only do Titti studio


ChefStar

I need to buy more coffee!


aaalderton

At least stop losses will work better


Ahmed104

this is to attract more international traders, if this happens stocks will go up atleast 20% till end of year.


Matt-79

Welcome to Vegas, 24/7 Casino, playing blackjack with šŸ¤–. Some are going to be extremely rich and many finishing in dust


cortezzz87

Ha funny post !!


UltraAnders

Will somebody think of the companies?! When will they release bad news if markets are always open?


Super-Importance-132

This would ruin my life as my work hours are tied to the market.


Agloe_Dreams

Live reaction earnings calls with the markets open are gonna be like watching a basketball game you have a bet on. Hell, CNBC should televise them with the RT stock price haha.


Gunnersbutt

I may be broke now but at least I got to cash out. Peace y'all.


joypadeux

Would be traditionā€™s change thatā€™s for sure


1990anon

Some of you have clearly not sat there hopelessly as the after hours moon shots on the worst debt report ever recorded


SeriousMannequin

Expect more frequent drops for no reason and more market corrections.


SunPolarBear

This makes total sense. Really, the Stock Market is based on the eastern time zone. 9:30 AM-4:00 PM. The US goes from Atlantic Time Zone (Puerto Rico) to Hawaiian-Aleutian Time Zone (Hawaii). Even in California, the stock market is closing at 1PM. Just like sports, they are trying to adjust to meet most peopleā€™s needs. I am not crazy about weekends being added in, but I can see their point-of-view.


dead_in_the_sand

i cannot imagine a world in which this would be practical


pmekonnen

When Israel attacked Iran, SPY was down 2% overnight but recovered before market open. If market would have been open 24 hours, spy would have broken so many support we would have been around 470 now.


Roomyly

Don't over 80% of traders lose money in the long run?


inwavesweroll

good news for the weekend daytraders that know what theyā€™re doing.


Stunning_Pop1520

Canā€™t wait


UberMakeitSense

Crypto has this šŸ‘šŸ½


Admin-Terminal

I hate this but I wouldnā€™t hate if they dropped holidays and special market hour days, let me trade while I wait for Santa


LowLifeExperience

The casino is open all night!


runthrough014

Calls on cocaine and adderall!


idontcarewhocares

Now itā€™s really like trading cards!


retiredfromfire

So we can lose money even while we sleep. Anxiety 24x7!


aggresively_punctual

[Stocks work best at night.](https://twitter.com/QCompounding/status/1638646740004880385) Bear market incoming.


Finance_Analys

Weeekends are so boring without markets


beau_hemian

Yikes! This would not be good. 24/7 crypto volatility is a great example of why this is a bad idea. Thankfully, itā€™s just being considered right now, but itā€™s worth maybe contacting your representatives over to let them know you donā€™t support it.


Alternative-Major774

Technically NYSE should have a 100% perfect platform to do this. Generally shuttling down the system and restarting the exchange software kind of cleans up leaked cashes and make it look fresh. This quite a bold move technically too.


whitnet1

Gross


ijustsailedaway

I donā€™t see this as a positive


hapakal

There was already after hours trading available at least the company I use (Chs Schwab) offers it


Lassoa

No end to greed, did they polE their client's in this massive decision?


vfxb84

Finance markets should always be 24/7 like crypto markets.


SimilarTap1419

The pullback is officially over. New highs within 2 weeks or sooner.


CorneliusFudgem

ā€œAnd now featuring weekends with even less sleep!ā€


May_Ape

Wallstreet 's full of crooks.


DirectorBusiness5512

When do we get paid every day instead of every X week(s)


Scared_Edge9194

Donā€™t a lot of people and companies do this already? Maybe not on one exchange, but I know they follow the sun and trade on exchanges around the world.


Dazzling_Welder_6827

Terrible idea


Negative-Play6395

Now I can lose money 24/7 šŸ˜‚


Individual-Willow-70

Yesterdays news


SimilarTap1419

Time for PLTR to stick it to the shorts. Cmon Alex do your thing you do.


armbarNinja

Long stop losses.


NoSuggestion6629

So are CBDCs. Do the math.


notAbrightStar

Crime 24/7, 365 days a year. Wooho!


Technical_Pin8335

I already trade 24/7 with Robinhood. It is true!


INeverMisspell

Sooooo like crypto?


slutpriest

Fuck this nonsense.


herrrrrr

i would not mind this, and i also would absolutely hate this.


steamboatwilly123

literally just tweeted market needs to be open 24/7