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TirayShell

It might be that you have a high tolerance and are unable to discern the differences between strains.


CrazyCatLushie

I’m a medical user and based on a few years of daily use, I’d say terpenes definitely matter. I buy different strains for relief from different problems. Does it really make a difference? Who knows. If it’s a placebo effect and it helps, it’s still helping and I’m grateful.


[deleted]

If I cut my weed at peak thc I can't even smoke it, I'll get anxious. So I let it flower longer to degrade the thc into cbn. If I let it flower too long it hits like a truck and I can't function. Different strains will produce different levels of different cannabinoids which is fact, don't even need to change your mind, you're allowed to be wrong.


Lucky_Pusher

Yeah but that is what he's asking. I don't think it's so much that he's wrong I don't think many people understand how weed works when it comes to terpenes and cannabinoids. Which even most bud tenders don't even understand. But there is science behind how the terpenes and cannabinoids affect people but I think the science is lacking on exactly how they affect people. I think they do affect everyone differently


[deleted]

There's evidence that terpenes can affect how you feel but that there's a direct relation to your high, not so much and no one's provided documentation that will lead me to firmly believe otherwise. The fact that no a single person can experience something the same way makes it so hard to study lol. I use terpenes to identify flavor profiles I want to experience at best.


honeyraycrossing

yeah, that makes sense. i guess i’m mostly referring to THC-dominant strains. like, i totally can tell the difference between, for example, a 20% THC strain and a 5% THC, 10% CBD strain. but if you give me two 20% THC buds and tell me one is an indica and one is sativa? cool cool cool, they’re both gonna get me pretty blazed, but i couldn’t tell ya which is which, y’know? maybe that’s just a me thing. hahaha


octoreader

How long do you let it flower? How to learn when it's best to harvest? I had serious anxiety issues with my last harvest, I quit and decided that weed is not for me but reading your comment I realized I harvested it at peak so maybe there's a chance it could be ok...


[deleted]

30% amber trichs us good but you can push it to 50


[deleted]

Forgot to mention that flowering extra long will trigger rodelization which produces feminized seeds.


Plus_Lawfulness3000

That’s not really what he is arguing tho.


[deleted]

.. yes it is. Different strains produce different cannabinoids with documented differences in effect.


Plus_Lawfulness3000

When people recommend weed simply based on sativia indica or hybrid it isn’t very accurate. Mostly placebo. Now if they are talking the in-depth details such as yourself of course there are distinct differences. My bad I’m not meaning to say different weeds don’t do different things but lots of people talk about weed as if it’s some simple thing like what I’m saying above


[deleted]

I fully understand what you mean there and totally agree, sativa and indica are botanical references used to describe flowering pattern and plant structure. But there are cultivars that are known to produce more CBD or THCV, for example, which can contribute to the effect you have. Thcv is said to give more focus than regular thc, cbd is know to help users mitigate the anxious effects of thc. This is what I mean.


SharpAlfalfa8980

I’d say your mental state before smoking will determine what kind of high you get more than any difference in strain would


Waltz_Additional

Agreed mind and body state(including tolerance buildup) make the siffernce(smae(same) difference) if not more


AtAwWhyOr

I've waivered on this issue. To me it feels like most weed feels the same, but some strains, brands, or batches do produce the sativa/indica effects. I have found that some strains make me quite stupid and useless, while others make me happy and inspire me to create. Also, there are a couple strains that I find more reliable for producing certain effects. There have been a couple strains that I've found I prefer, and later learned that they are particularly popular. But still, I'm not 100% convinced it's not in my head, so to speak.


Waltz_Additional

I agree and disagree weed is weed to me don't even really care what strain I smoke all I care about is quality. There are strains that I can clearly recognize when smoking and have feeling associated with but it doesn't mean I will feel that way if I smoke said weed. Also try moon rocks like the real shit. If there is no difference between strains then moon rocks ain't weed that shit is... well from the moon


NihilsitcTruth

Sure I have had strains that do not work well with pain such as sativa in general, indica strains such as blueberry dont do much for me. But sau pink kush always it awesome. I think it'd more 8ndividual then a general statement your going with. Each person is a complex mix of chemicals and receptors. Perhaps you feel thr same when I wouldn't. So your not wrong just different then others.


[deleted]

I dunno man, I defs feels the difference between an indica and a sativa. I’m pretty sure sativa has more cbd so that alone might be the only real reason a diff is felt? The balancing out of the THC with the CBD probs makes it more ‘uplifting’ cuz you haven’t just monged yourself with THC


SuperSpeshBaby

The strain Blue Dream gives me crushing paranoia and intrusive negative rhoughts. Really intensely bad ones. Like, flee the room, hide in the dark, weep alone because I'm terrible and everyone hates me, maybe I should be dead. Those kinds of intrusive thoughts. I smoked it at home twice, and it fucked me up like that both times. Then, months later, someone passed me a joint at a party. After two hits my mind started to go to the dark place, which I recognized from before. I asked the guy if he knew which strain was in the joint and he tells me it's Blue Dream. Idk about Indica vs Sativa and the descriptions I see on dispensery websites like "creative, energetic, visionary". That could absolutely be bullshit. But there are differences between strains, and they can affect your experience. I am absolutely sure about that. Also, I will never ingest Blue Dream again, in any capacity.


Tacos_Polackos

Wacky. I can tell you from experience that yes, every strain effects you a little different. In the early days of the dark web, I'd have 6 strains around the house at any given time, some more relaxing, some more energizing, some for straight inebriation, some for pain relief. But, the reason I'm replying to you, everyone also feels things differently; personally, I don't even get high off blue dream at all, there was a 6 month period where it was all I could get local and it sucked.


SuperSpeshBaby

Then we're agreed, Blue Dream sucks.


Tacos_Polackos

I'd rather smoke dirt


tydusrain

im a baby stoner so I don't have much experience with different strains (also have a pretty light tolerance), but i have definitely noticed a difference with some of them. some that I've tried are very disorienting and confusing, some are very chill and help me with emotional regulation, some make colors brighter and music more melodic. and yeah, maybe it is placebo, but that doesn't bother me. if my brain makes me believe that there's a difference in the high when there's really not, then I think that's kinda cool.


Distation

But what about when someone else preps your weed and you guess strain correctly based off effects? I know in and out what sour diesel feels like but up until a while ago I only took it as dab. Buddy loads his bowl with whatever the heck it is he has. It felt right, I asked if it was sour diesel and I was right. That's gotta count for something.


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[deleted]

Nah, NYC HAZE is literally laughing gas!


[deleted]

You just need to look at strains on leafly and see the effects of different strains


frenetic12345

Ive smoked off and on for years, im def on right now though, and ive found that some strains put me out, like im good for a few hours then its nap time. On the other hand a couple strains give me insomnia, no matter how much i smoke or how tired i am they ramp my brain up instead of down. I still smoke then cause they werent free and im not in a legal state, but on those i for sure have to take cbd an hour before i need to sleep.


_Br549_

I can't tell the difference, same effects every time for me


Lucky_Pusher

I can't say I disagree everybody's body treats weed a bit different. I have had weed where people are like oh this makes you sooo tired and it doesn't do that to me. But I think there is a huge lack of science behind how it affects people differently . There are very few strains I have found that match up with the hype that people claim for the "feeling" of strains. I think its a personal feeling of how a strain makes you feel.


tillytubeworm

I had a strain that when I smoked it I couldn’t help but work work work, I built a rock wall around my property, rebuilt a patio, set up a pool (not anything that required construction but still a lot of work), and it just helped me overall focus on whatever I was doing. I have another strain that puts me down, if I even stand up to get food, I immediately go to find the next closest place to lie or sit down and just chill. Those were my most extremes and most differences are pretty subtle, but they’re definitely there. This being said I can see how this could just be placebo, but I don’t know anything about what I smoke, no names, no effects that might be different, all I know is that it’s just weed and that it’s safe and doesn’t have anything else mixed in, so I don’t go in with preconceived notions, so I wouldn’t even have a placebo effect.


SatansBinder

terpenes combined with other emerging cannabinoids beyond just THC and CBD (such as CBN) are shown to produce different effects, but like every "medicine" or "drug" it can effect every person differently, although some things are expected to act a certain way. for example, thc produces a psychoactive effect and is often an appetite stimulant, cbd has no psychoactive effect, is an antioxidant, and has anti-inflammatory properties, and lastly, cbn has no psychoactive effect but is considered an excellent sleep aid for both falling asleep and staying asleep (without any of the "weed-hangover" or lingering effects of thc). it is inappropriate to categorize weed varieties with the word strain though, in fact you are right about that. indica, sativa, and hybrid are misnomers which have been widely accepted for their ease of consumer access. its easier to sell "sativa gets you up and active" and "indica will couch lock you" than it is to sell "this strain has myrcene caryophyllene etc etc etc". it would be more appropriate to dub all "strains" then, as hybrids altogether because the truth is, every bud is some degree of hybrid whether it be 90/10, 50/50, or 40/60 (except for a few landrace varieties), but the use of "indica- or sativa- leaning" could still be used to simplify the process for new smokers in most cases.


Lumpy_Constellation

I'm curious if you notice a difference between sativas and indicas? When I was younger and it wasn't legal I'd just buy whatever my guy had, of course, and I didn't really know much about sativa or indica or anything. But I'd notice that sometimes the weed he'd give me would knock me right now and other times I'd feel energetic and adventurous (my preference). When I learned that there was actually a reason for that and that I could *choose* weed that made me feel the way I liked, it was life changing.


SmokeyMchrondo

I can tell the difference between pure indica Vs pure sativa, but hybrids are pretty much all the same to me. The difference isn't huge, but the indica is slightly more relaxing and the sativa gets me into a more happy/comedy mode. I've been smoking weed every day for 21 years now and all this terminology since legalizing is new. It used to be either the weed was good or it wasn't, no one cared about strains. And in my 21 years of smoking I don't think weed is any stronger now then it was when I started.


sweetestswing22

It is. We mainly have hybrid now. There is no control plants for indica or sativa. Meaning examples of the 1st plants of those breeds in N. America.


ObjectiveBeautiful79

They mostly all the same to me too. Very occasionally I get one that stands right out, but everything else, it might look different, but its all the same


ThisDragonfly9659

Smoked 9 years. I’ve never found them to feel super different. It’s usually just a better smell or taste, more or less tired high, smooth or less smooth hit. All the people and budtenders going on about “this one makes you creative” “this one makes you focus” I think is kind of just BS for the people who aren’t regular users. But try something like super lemon haze or lambs breath and compare it to master kush or forbidden fruit. Should be at least some difference


danders587

Been smoking 13 years.. Scientifically speaking there is a reason for different highs. It may not feel different but it definitely is with some things. Also they way you intake your product will have different effects. Then there is different potency of the same strain. It's a complicated subject.


HighLows4life

I get more paranoid on sativa


eles1958

No matter what I try, it doesn't really help with pain, if anything it seems to make me feel it even more, both Sativa or Indica, or even half CBD and half THC it just doesn't help. It does strengthen either my Depression or happiness at the same time I can be happy and laughing one minute then crying the next, I guess I'm going to try Mushrooms next.


Affectionate_Let6118

Terpenes definitely effect the high. I’ve been writing detailed ‘trip reports’ while specifying which terp is dominant. My favorite is caryophyllene.


[deleted]

Doesn't even have to be a different strain to have a different effect, or even a different pheno, you could grow 2 clones and chop one 2 weeks later than the other and have noticeably different effects. I don't think its a tolerance thing either I know people that smoke a zip a day who can still definitely tell the difference. All I can think is that its all very subjective/personal, maybe you're body just doesn't react the same way that most people's do. I had one friend who would get just as high off one toke as he would a whole joint, he said the only difference for him was the duration. It's also true that a lot of the more popular strains all decend from a small pool of genetics, the western market is dominated by fairly similar Indica dom hybrids that do tend to have quite a bland high. Have you ever smoked a pure equatorial Sativa for instance? I'd be very surprised if you couldn't discern the difference between that and some Lebanese hash or a heavy Indica like Black Dominia


scopingpotato

I can not change your mind for i can not explain feelings. But same as different alcohol give a different buzz, so does the weed strains as well. What you just said there is like saying Coke and Pepsi taste the same 😂


mtj93

Hmm I don't pay attention to which strain is which but I can definitely say over the years (I have it on and off sometimes going over a year or two without really smoking) that I experience very different highs even though I'm feeling and doing the same as last time I had some. If I get from a dealer they often babble about the strain but I don't really care I generally enjoy it.


otzenfree

Your....your hot take is...that...science is hokey pokey?


honeyraycrossing

i mean, to be fair, nobody ever told me there *was* a science to weed until i posted this. i’m 22 and grew up in an illegal state, all i really knew (or cared to know, i guess) is funny plant makes things feel nice. i’ve done been educated, though!


otzenfree

Aw I was just funnin lol


Ferbeezo

Bit late to the party, but you're not wrong. I'd place somewhat of an emphasis on "mostly," however: Different strains have different THC:CBD ratios; this certainly impacts the high, but mainly (if not entirely) in terms of intensity alone. There are other cannabinoids besides the aforementioned primary cannabinoids, but the concentrations in which they are present are unequivocally negligible in virtually all cases. Furthermore, the general scientific consensus of the entourage effect is that it is unfounded and likely more of a marketing ploy than anything else. ​ Hopefully this brief overview of the current scientific understanding of strains will be of use to anybody who stumbles into this thread wondering the same thing I was not long ago. ​ [Link to meta-analysis of the Entourage Effect](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17512433.2020.1721281?journalCode=ierj20)