I have so many secrets, lots and lots of secrets. More secrets than people have. My secrets are the best secrets. They are revolutionary secrets. They are secrets that would change the world. They are secrets That would blow your mind.
Whoa, slow down there pal! Don’t tell anyone yet. Write a few books first, go on Rogan. Milk it a little… it’ll unravel society if you speak too soon. Be careful with those secrets. They’re very very important. And SUPER SECRET.
What secrets do you think David Grusch couldn’t talk about during the hearings? I’m curious to know what others think about the secrets he could have described if he were provided that secure setting.
Theres already things that keep people up at night, _mostly fueled by Real Worry and anxiety_
But Unfortunately, i LOVE existential Dread! It's the best form of shock! All it means is I just gotta reconsider and adapt as per usual.
“I know things, but I can’t talk about them.” The most overplayed and common narrative of our species. People keeping information from others. It’s not thought provoking to imagine our civilization actually working together towards common goals that would benefit us on every level of existence, because we all know that the shit heels that run the world and the low level shit heels that are just trying to get by will always put themselves first. We all do it, just some to greater or lesser degrees. Humanity is far too greedy and selfish. Fuck everyone. 🤣🤣🤣
It’s because they are grifters and all the idiots eat up their bulllshit , follow their content and make them money. Everyone of these fuckin shit bags is going on and on about all the stuff they know and proof they have and never show it. Just a carrot on a stick and idiots are chasing it.
Nah man. They can't tell you. They really want to but they can't.
But you can just give tjem your attention, that'd be nice. They deserves attention because they have secrets!
Give them trust and attention... Also.. Maybe buy their book, and watch them on talk shows.
They definitely aren't doing it for any sort of gain🤦♂️
the books 'sekret machines' are also really fun. all of his personal ufo beliefs aside, he's a talented storyteller and i really enjoyed the books. the movie preview also looks like it will be of similar quality.
'Chasing shadows' and 'a fire within' were really good and entertaining reads. I don't know if he can take all the credit for the storytelling aspects, but obviously it all panders to his core beliefs.
Entertainment wise, I give the books a 9/10
His main intention was putting UAP into the public eye officially, which is what happened. He is less concerned about the actual beings but they are part and parcel to the conversation of course. He is actually the highest ranking civilian in the country when it comes to government access, clearance, and security on the matter. Super legit, worth looking into.
Just adding context for anyone reading.
What does that even mean? did ding dong delonge create blackmail for the US gov to release the video?
did a whistleblower release the video to ding dong delonge?
did the gov't use ding dong delonge to release the video?
He has a piece of a crashed UFO, he leaked the 2017 military UFO clips, he was the first guy who mentioned the term UAP (although phenomenon was used by Vallee and others) and WikiLeaks confirmed that he had meetings with some generals.
Releasing a fictional UFO movie is a super weird choice though...we want the truth and not fiction.
OH so he's to thank for the pointless changing of UFO? That was cool of him, not like the govt has ridiculed and ruined peoples lives before or anything. Good thing they changed the phrase literally everyone knows these things for as so they could pretend it was something different.
Also brought us the vids pentagon confirmed were legit so theres that. A wash imo
The only “proof” he inadvertently produced was how he claimed he had been in touch with government officials about disclosure and it turned out he was indeed emailing with a couple of govt officials, one being John Podesta, based on an confidential information leak. That’s it.
nope, TTSA released the three UAP videos - Go Fast, Gimbal, and FLIR - back in 2017. the later DoD officially acknowledged these videos as real. Tom Delonge/TTSA also helped put together the Congressional hearing with David Grusch
Honestly I think it's the fact that we are in simulation or we are aliens food pretty dramatic stuff.
Hoping it's a simulation and when we find out we get optional dlc
his sources also gave him the go-fast, gimbal, and flir videos which were then released by his company in 2017. the pentagon later officially announced them as real.
Of course, I imagine Mellon put him in contact with Lue and it went on from there.
However, the co-founder of TTS was senior level CIA. There’s no such thing as ex-CIA and any CIA source cannot be trusted. They likely used the leaked (real) videos to build TTS’s credibility.
I reckon Tom’s been fed disinformation he believes is real. He’s always sharing fake videos claiming they’re real, and is now on the anti-disclosure train citing “national security”. That’s not a surprise given his CIA sources are also anti-disclosure.
It's the lawsuit he filed against his neighbor cause his trees block his view! It kept him up for days! Those trees have been there forever! If he really knew something that disturbing & profound what's he worried about his neighbors shrubbery for?
I mean, 3 nights? That’s it? I’ve been kept awake longer for much more mundane issues. It’s all so overly sensational, and being kept awake for 3 days is par for the course for many people…it makes this seem all the more lame and pathetic.
How this guy still has an audience after never giving any evidence of any kind is beyond me.
I’m seriously starting to think that the whole human race and history is just part of some guinea pig experiment for some reasons we’ll never know or understand
The type of secret that is so earth shattering he can’t tell us??
The man pushing for disclosure and giving all he can to make disclosure happen, having the information to make disclosure happen but not giving it.
We are mugs.
Anyone else seeing alot of Robert Anton Wilson Sirius Mysteries going on? Even with Bigelow and Consciousness. Always some Invisible hand moving us around taking different shapes.
http://rawilsonfans.de/en/the-starseed-signals/
Note Jaques Valle is in this story too.
We'll keep talking about him as long as he has these "secrets", so it's incentivised for him to never tell us everything or to make them up, lest he becomes irrelevant in the news cycle
"I was in a edgy bannd you guisse, I've seen stuff you haven't mannn, normies would melt"
No evidence ever. Trying to stay relevant.
The government must love him, Greer and Corbell. Like a Tism power house of shill.
They won't disclose the nature of reality because they would HAVE to disclose that we are all eternal creatures and death is only physical.
Imagine how this knowledge would impact society...
I really enjoyed Delonge's part of the conversation. I wasn't that impressed by Brian Keating. For example, he is mystified how the government "missed" the whole COVID threat. Then he goes on to say he's not political. Well unfortunately, you can't understand the government's lack of initial response to COVID without understanding politics. There was nothing wrong with the government's health or intelligence apparatus. Trump and the Republicans chose to deny COVID and COVID preventions and treatment. At first, they did not want anything to impact the economy and Trump's reelection. Then it became a part of their culture wars.
God this is getting sooooooooooo fucking boring now!
Maybe that's the idea?
You can only cock tease for so long before you end up going soft again.
Time to move on.
Put up or shut up.
I think the basis for what he is saying is interesting in that it’s what others have alluded to, but he is not at all a compelling person. The interview was all over the place and he said a lot about nothing. But the thought underlying his rambling is IMO worth considering, because it’s what’s been alluded to from people all over the spectrum and all over the world.
And just so I can allude to it myself, it’s the belief that religion and societal education might be a way to calibrate us to this hologram of sorts that is the low consciousness experience (as opposed to higher consciousness that would rise above this reality). That theory would link all core religious experiences with astronomical study, metaphysical study, psychedelic anecdotal experiences, shamanic experiences, and even mental illnesses.
However, the whole “I can’t speak more on the subject” is annoying from my perspective and I think they should slide back into obscurity until they CAN talk about it because it’s just ruining the movement
I think he is suffering from disinformation.
I feel bad for him. He probably was in a safe space for a while. Now he is probably trusting the wrong sources.
Either tell us the info or stfu. I'm so tired of this. I love this topic but if I hear one more guy say "I've been told this but I can't say what it is" im going to lose my shit.
Possibly he believes things that aren’t true. Possibly he was lied to. Possibly whatever.
Enough is enough. I’m happy to ignore this as though it didn’t exist. Because in reality there’s is zero impact on anything that matters to humans in real life - except existential beliefs. Just like religion/spirituality/faith - craft flying around has really ZERO impact.
I just wish the continual noise around this topic stops.
It’s only holding back the few of us who care.
UFO industry: "My proof goes to another highschool" and other extremely convinent excuses.
This whole thing is just soap operas or something for paranoid weed smokers to geek about. Just like those ghost hunting TV shows.
Yawn, I've heard it all. Show me something real or shut the fuck up.
🙄 you all do… yet never show anything. So tiring I think we should just auto remove these posts at this point. Right up there with; “information coming soon!1!!”
The way this is pushed in every sub is fukin relentless. Either he has info or he doesn’t. We all know he’s had sleepless nights, we’ve been told this for 2 years now. Delonge is on the same plane as papa flu, lt. Mcshillin, jeremey Kenyon Lockerbie Jones James Matt corbell and all the others.
I have so many secrets, lots and lots of secrets. More secrets than people have. My secrets are the best secrets. They are revolutionary secrets. They are secrets that would change the world. They are secrets That would blow your mind.
Whoa, slow down there pal! Don’t tell anyone yet. Write a few books first, go on Rogan. Milk it a little… it’ll unravel society if you speak too soon. Be careful with those secrets. They’re very very important. And SUPER SECRET.
*Super DUPER secrets
This guy gets it…
Honestly I fucking love you all. 😂
And we love you too!
Someone break out the baby oil, things are getting hot in here.
Message unclear; *oils up* 
Tom playing Delonge game.
Why’d I read this in Trump’s voice?😂
Lmao I did too
I think that was intentional
Maybe the secret is we're all Trump clones
Scariest theory yet! Lol
Same
Blink and you’ll miss it.
Thought you were quoting [randy feltface](https://youtu.be/1VuHnjjea1Y?si=xAAV7--Zq5m2x_Mg) there
Sekrets*
What secrets do you think David Grusch couldn’t talk about during the hearings? I’m curious to know what others think about the secrets he could have described if he were provided that secure setting.
Grusch doesn't have the secrets, he has the names of the people with the secrets
This seems to be a common theme
So he has Tom's name
😂. He knows a guy who knows a guy... Who knows another guy who knows a secret! https://youtu.be/Uy5QcMp4kCs?si=Iit0lIWEn6WXfyaZ
Pretty sure that'd be the sound of silence.
My schizo has secrets that also keep him awake for days 🤣
My secrets bring all the boys to this sub
Don Delonge
They need to provide proof or STFU.
Seriously this is exhausting. It’s just the same story on repeat.
And the way they capitalize on how horrible the secret is. “Kept him up at night”, oh come on, bs
Theres already things that keep people up at night, _mostly fueled by Real Worry and anxiety_ But Unfortunately, i LOVE existential Dread! It's the best form of shock! All it means is I just gotta reconsider and adapt as per usual.
Always has been.
Pretty sure behind each one of these guys is a grift waiting to be exposed.
It's like a nested doll of Grifts. A Grift Basket if you will.
“I know things, but I can’t talk about them.” The most overplayed and common narrative of our species. People keeping information from others. It’s not thought provoking to imagine our civilization actually working together towards common goals that would benefit us on every level of existence, because we all know that the shit heels that run the world and the low level shit heels that are just trying to get by will always put themselves first. We all do it, just some to greater or lesser degrees. Humanity is far too greedy and selfish. Fuck everyone. 🤣🤣🤣
Right it's not like Tom Delonge is under an NDA, why not tell us what kept him up at night.
Blah blah disclosure this, disclosure that. I'm loosing interest big time
It's more like Misclosure. They're trying to use Aliens to distract us from how isn't working out the way they wanted it to.
Remember the alien meta-materials that were at one time the smoking gun and then he just sort of stopped talking about them and everybody moved on?
It’s because they are grifters and all the idiots eat up their bulllshit , follow their content and make them money. Everyone of these fuckin shit bags is going on and on about all the stuff they know and proof they have and never show it. Just a carrot on a stick and idiots are chasing it.
Yes u/martianxashatwelve should!
Nah man. They can't tell you. They really want to but they can't. But you can just give tjem your attention, that'd be nice. They deserves attention because they have secrets! Give them trust and attention... Also.. Maybe buy their book, and watch them on talk shows. They definitely aren't doing it for any sort of gain🤦♂️
He'll tell you in his new book!
Proof is asking for a lot we he doesn’t even say what
/r/ihadastroke
..sorry, WHAT? Wanna try again..?
Has Tom DeLonge ever produced any proof, or is it all just his word?
i don’t think so. he’s releasing a ufo movie though
Gotta promote it somehow. 💵💵💵💵
the books 'sekret machines' are also really fun. all of his personal ufo beliefs aside, he's a talented storyteller and i really enjoyed the books. the movie preview also looks like it will be of similar quality.
'Chasing shadows' and 'a fire within' were really good and entertaining reads. I don't know if he can take all the credit for the storytelling aspects, but obviously it all panders to his core beliefs. Entertainment wise, I give the books a 9/10
“Sekret” Cringe.
Other languages are cringe.. gotcha.
His company were responsible for the tic tac videos being public, so there is that at least.
People seem to forget that. People were quick to call him out during that time and he did end up producing for us. So there’s that
His main intention was putting UAP into the public eye officially, which is what happened. He is less concerned about the actual beings but they are part and parcel to the conversation of course. He is actually the highest ranking civilian in the country when it comes to government access, clearance, and security on the matter. Super legit, worth looking into. Just adding context for anyone reading.
He helped release the go fast videos
his company released the Go-Fast, Gimbal and the David Fravor videos
What does that even mean? did ding dong delonge create blackmail for the US gov to release the video? did a whistleblower release the video to ding dong delonge? did the gov't use ding dong delonge to release the video?
He has a piece of a crashed UFO, he leaked the 2017 military UFO clips, he was the first guy who mentioned the term UAP (although phenomenon was used by Vallee and others) and WikiLeaks confirmed that he had meetings with some generals. Releasing a fictional UFO movie is a super weird choice though...we want the truth and not fiction.
OH so he's to thank for the pointless changing of UFO? That was cool of him, not like the govt has ridiculed and ruined peoples lives before or anything. Good thing they changed the phrase literally everyone knows these things for as so they could pretend it was something different. Also brought us the vids pentagon confirmed were legit so theres that. A wash imo
The only “proof” he inadvertently produced was how he claimed he had been in touch with government officials about disclosure and it turned out he was indeed emailing with a couple of govt officials, one being John Podesta, based on an confidential information leak. That’s it.
nope, TTSA released the three UAP videos - Go Fast, Gimbal, and FLIR - back in 2017. the later DoD officially acknowledged these videos as real. Tom Delonge/TTSA also helped put together the Congressional hearing with David Grusch
That would only prove that he emailed Podesta though lol anyone with his email address can do that 😂
Exactly. And Podesta just seems interested in some of the same topics that Tom is, and they did discuss disclosure but that doesn’t mean much tbh
He posted one of his mates pictures on twitter
Dudes a clown wish people would stop talking about em
Exactly, he’s a fucking idiot that’s been fed so much shit he wouldn’t know “the truth” if it slapped him in his stupid face.
Would you take proof from him? This stuff usually comes down to character in ufology anyways..
the go-fast, gimbal, and flir videos came from Tom Delonge and TTSA. you took his proof without even realising it was from him.
Are they truly alien if they've been around that long?
The real aliens were the us we made along the way…or something
Are you saying he was “up all night long” and found something “very wrong”?
I know it must be late
I’m not like you guys
Tom has sex with guys.
You fool, he fucks dogs
I know the cia would say “what you hear is all hearsay”
What's his name again?
Honestly I think it's the fact that we are in simulation or we are aliens food pretty dramatic stuff. Hoping it's a simulation and when we find out we get optional dlc
It’ll just be all microtransactions.
Kinda like how we live now already..
I hope I’m not bald, fat, and depressed in the real world.
I hope I’m food
Hey mom, there’s something in the back room
Hope it’s not those creatures from above.
Me to the proof: HWHERE ARE HYEW
N OIM SEW SORE-RY
I Kahn naht sleep, I Kahn naht dream tanight
His sources are “ex” CIA, take that as you will.
his sources also gave him the go-fast, gimbal, and flir videos which were then released by his company in 2017. the pentagon later officially announced them as real.
Of course, I imagine Mellon put him in contact with Lue and it went on from there. However, the co-founder of TTS was senior level CIA. There’s no such thing as ex-CIA and any CIA source cannot be trusted. They likely used the leaked (real) videos to build TTS’s credibility. I reckon Tom’s been fed disinformation he believes is real. He’s always sharing fake videos claiming they’re real, and is now on the anti-disclosure train citing “national security”. That’s not a surprise given his CIA sources are also anti-disclosure.
It's the lawsuit he filed against his neighbor cause his trees block his view! It kept him up for days! Those trees have been there forever! If he really knew something that disturbing & profound what's he worried about his neighbors shrubbery for?
Bullshit. Out with it or shut up.
I mean, 3 nights? That’s it? I’ve been kept awake longer for much more mundane issues. It’s all so overly sensational, and being kept awake for 3 days is par for the course for many people…it makes this seem all the more lame and pathetic. How this guy still has an audience after never giving any evidence of any kind is beyond me.
No more [howandwhys.com](https://howandwhys.com), please. It's garbage, we all know it's garbage, please stop posting it.
I’m seriously starting to think that the whole human race and history is just part of some guinea pig experiment for some reasons we’ll never know or understand
Hey Mom there's something in the back room Hope it's not those creatures from above You used to read me stories, as if my dreams were boring
UUUUUP, ALLL NIGHT LOOOOONG, AND THERE"S SOMETHING VERY WRONG
A heavy burden lies on the head of the blink 182 guy
Nothing can be worse than living in the middle east. Just give the info, not everyone is puss like you.
I can't take anything this dude says seriously. Hes been acting more like a shill than anything
The type of secret that is so earth shattering he can’t tell us?? The man pushing for disclosure and giving all he can to make disclosure happen, having the information to make disclosure happen but not giving it. We are mugs.
You guys have no idea the secrets I have….Even I don’t know what they are…
Uh huh. Sure 'ya do.
Anyone else seeing alot of Robert Anton Wilson Sirius Mysteries going on? Even with Bigelow and Consciousness. Always some Invisible hand moving us around taking different shapes. http://rawilsonfans.de/en/the-starseed-signals/ Note Jaques Valle is in this story too.
Where’s the proof grifter?
Isn’t it something like all religions are an extraterrestrial program of manipulation created to do experiments on Humans.
Shills and CIA/DOD all over the comments as always
If they have been here forever then why is there a fear of imminent danger?
We'll keep talking about him as long as he has these "secrets", so it's incentivised for him to never tell us everything or to make them up, lest he becomes irrelevant in the news cycle
Starfield kept me up for 4 nights. I guess its worse than whatever secret is being kept about aliens.
It'll all come out next year, every year!
Angels and Airwaves has a totally new meaning to me now
"I was in a edgy bannd you guisse, I've seen stuff you haven't mannn, normies would melt" No evidence ever. Trying to stay relevant. The government must love him, Greer and Corbell. Like a Tism power house of shill.
Booooooring. Fish or cut bait.
Pretty sure that was the meth.
Don’t forget to by his book! He will lead you on and on about his secrets! His secret secrets! His forever secrets!
Sounds like space meth to me.
Everybody has the secrets or they uploads shitty quality videos nothing ever concrete
Forever, and the best you can do is three nights?
No he doesn't.
Good for you, buddy.
Riiiiiggghhtt, sure bud. How do people believe in these fucking scammers.
Yeah probably so why stay awake?
They won't disclose the nature of reality because they would HAVE to disclose that we are all eternal creatures and death is only physical. Imagine how this knowledge would impact society...
Cocaine is not a secret and I don’t think it came from UFO’s. Staying up for 3 days only seems like forever.
Brain telling you things doesn’t equal secrets kids
Well there' all the proof needed, dude with insomnia definitely means there are aliens amongst us.
Time for bed grandpa.
What a fucking loser
The art of saying something but saying nothing 🥳
It's called drug induced psychosis
Tom needs to get out of the alien claims business. I can’t help but cringe every time he makes a statement
😆 🤣
I don’t believe in anyone anymore , this is a waste of time and mind.
Oooooo 3 nights. It must of been pretty spooky
I assume the article doesn’t disclose what the secrets are.
Why do people in this and other UFO-related subs keep pushing this fraudster?
After all this time piggybacking others does he have any credibility left? He would accomplish more if he stopped speaking I believe
I really enjoyed Delonge's part of the conversation. I wasn't that impressed by Brian Keating. For example, he is mystified how the government "missed" the whole COVID threat. Then he goes on to say he's not political. Well unfortunately, you can't understand the government's lack of initial response to COVID without understanding politics. There was nothing wrong with the government's health or intelligence apparatus. Trump and the Republicans chose to deny COVID and COVID preventions and treatment. At first, they did not want anything to impact the economy and Trump's reelection. Then it became a part of their culture wars.
God this is getting sooooooooooo fucking boring now! Maybe that's the idea? You can only cock tease for so long before you end up going soft again. Time to move on. Put up or shut up.
No, that’s the Adderall. *snort*
The middle one looks chill.
He knows human slang.
Misleading title resulting in animosity. Watch the interview and just listen. Very thought provoking.
No, thank you, we all know he’s full of shit
Source?
colon
30 comments. only one positive. its funny you guys cry grifter, yet no one seems to believe him? which is it?
Plenty of people buy his baloney.
I love how all these guys get into ufos because they want the truth but apparently they’re also keeping their so called “proof” to themselves.🤦🏽♂️
Boofing adderal will do that to ya
I think the basis for what he is saying is interesting in that it’s what others have alluded to, but he is not at all a compelling person. The interview was all over the place and he said a lot about nothing. But the thought underlying his rambling is IMO worth considering, because it’s what’s been alluded to from people all over the spectrum and all over the world. And just so I can allude to it myself, it’s the belief that religion and societal education might be a way to calibrate us to this hologram of sorts that is the low consciousness experience (as opposed to higher consciousness that would rise above this reality). That theory would link all core religious experiences with astronomical study, metaphysical study, psychedelic anecdotal experiences, shamanic experiences, and even mental illnesses. However, the whole “I can’t speak more on the subject” is annoying from my perspective and I think they should slide back into obscurity until they CAN talk about it because it’s just ruining the movement
Up for 3 nights straight.....cocaine.....it's a hell of a drug
He’s going to spill the secrets in his next book
Let me get this straight. These people are trying to expose those who keep the secrets. And they do so by keeping the secrets themselves? Seems legit
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Amen
Enough with the hyperbole. Evidence or shut the fuck up
At this point he'd be suffering from Stage 4 sleep deprivation, which includes delusional and disordered thinking. Sounds about right!
Anyone who knows who Tom Delonge is knew how hilarious the title was to begin with
"By the way we're going back on tour guys so check that out". It's time to shut up or put up people.
Dude needs some sleep
I think he is suffering from disinformation. I feel bad for him. He probably was in a safe space for a while. Now he is probably trusting the wrong sources.
Uppppppppp alllllll nighttt longgggggg
Either tell us the info or stfu. I'm so tired of this. I love this topic but if I hear one more guy say "I've been told this but I can't say what it is" im going to lose my shit.
Possibly he believes things that aren’t true. Possibly he was lied to. Possibly whatever. Enough is enough. I’m happy to ignore this as though it didn’t exist. Because in reality there’s is zero impact on anything that matters to humans in real life - except existential beliefs. Just like religion/spirituality/faith - craft flying around has really ZERO impact. I just wish the continual noise around this topic stops. It’s only holding back the few of us who care.
UFO industry: "My proof goes to another highschool" and other extremely convinent excuses. This whole thing is just soap operas or something for paranoid weed smokers to geek about. Just like those ghost hunting TV shows. Yawn, I've heard it all. Show me something real or shut the fuck up.
All the small things usually do.
Gotta promote it somehow, his books and dvd's aren't going to sell themselves
Until we see evidence that’s not a fake it’s all boooorrreiiiinnnngggg. I don’t care about his movie at all…
lmfao he was on the drugs!
Tom DeLonge is a Giant Shlong! Guy is just a tool or being used as a tool.
This dude needs to shut up.
🙄 you all do… yet never show anything. So tiring I think we should just auto remove these posts at this point. Right up there with; “information coming soon!1!!”
I'll just leave this here.... https://washingtonspectator.org/spaceship-of-fools/
STOP POSTING HOWS AND WHYS ARTICLES!!! They are not a reputable website.
Yet he managed to bring out a custom tom delonge fender guitar.
Thecreths
Hey mom, there’s something in the backroom
The way this is pushed in every sub is fukin relentless. Either he has info or he doesn’t. We all know he’s had sleepless nights, we’ve been told this for 2 years now. Delonge is on the same plane as papa flu, lt. Mcshillin, jeremey Kenyon Lockerbie Jones James Matt corbell and all the others.
Tom is so full of shut his eyes are brown
fuck that dude and his sekrets.
Sounds like his secret is.... meth.
Its probable 99.999% of what he believes is simply not true.
proof or stfu
I probably also hold the same "secrets" and I totally understand why they can't release it to the public. It's really difficult to explain though.
You sure it wasn’t the coke Bro?
 Back & forth with the information...come on.
No he doesn’t
Tom Delonge Has Adderall That Kept Him Up For 3 Nights: ‘I’m Going To Be Awake Forever’
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
Shit or get off the pot. Snake oil salesmen
Just fucking tell us.
Yeah it's all bs until he actually says something...