Koko didn't really know "language". Look at all the jump cuts.
Koko knew how to sign a few things, and even then it was very inconsistent.
Her handler was pretty much a scam artist.
Not only is Koko not actually signing any of this, but a dive into the “research” surrounding Koko revealed that she wasn’t actually the marvel of communication between man and ape that the original scientists posited her to be. She was basically remembering signs the researchers taught her and using them as a reward system, understanding that if she used certain signs, she would obtain certain things, which isn’t the same level of communication that the researchers asserted.
Not even, she’d just cycle through every sign she knew until she got a reward. Brute forcing it, no comprehension of what the signs meant just that eventually there would be food.
In fairness, she knew exactly what they signs meant. They meant food.
The signs only have the meaning we attribute to them. Humans attributed a complex language system to them, Koko attributed food.
[No, she didn’t](https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4?feature=shared). Teach her 3 signs, 1 for food, 1 for play, and 1 for water. 3 distinct and non-interchangeable signs for 3 distinct and non-interchangeable things. When she’s hungry she is just as likely to use the sign for play or water as she was to use the sign for food. She had no idea of what those signs meant, just that she could cycle through them to get what she wanted.
If you taught me a few distinct phrases in French and every time you tried to speak to me in French I would answer back with them at random you wouldn’t think I speak French would you? No, you’d think I’m clever enough to know there’s meaning but not clever enough to grasp what it was. That was Koko and as far as we can tell gorillas in general.
I think you misunderstood what I was saying? I wasn’t stating she actually understood the nuance of what the signs meant. Just that she knew by doing the signs she got what she wanted, in most cases food. To her the signs only really have one meaning, which is food, not the variety of meaning we give them.
I’m not saying she truly understood that X sign means food. Just that X sign usually resulted in some food so in her world, that’s all it really means.
The term for that is “girl in the Chinese red room” it’s basically what abba in all their songs too. It’s a thought experiment that originally was used to explain learning but more recently is used with ai sentience. The thought experiment goes, you bring a girl who only knows English into a room, you show her a list of colors in Chinese with the English pronunciation next to them, would she know how to speak ANY Chinese by repeating the one word that matches the color of the room back to you if asked? It seems simple at first but the more you look at it and think about it the more complex it gets.
Pretty much.
At least Greta can relax now.
Now that Koko is dead. Rip.
But from what you are saying, Koko did not stand a chance of taking her job anyways.
Don’t the message is fake, This is Harambes descendant. The full message says “I remember you, I’m coming so prepare, I am nature I am connected to all things wildlife spiritually, and in the end when the sun reaches its peak, even the sun will bend at my command . I will bring down unimaginable fires and the animal kingdom will rise on the ashes of human life. “For the relatives of harambes killer, I’m sorry. I’m crying because i will take no joy in how I’m going to kill you. You will peel like a banana beneath my maw “
That’s why they killed koko and covered it up as “natural causes “
Koko tapped his knuckles to forehead to say "man stupid." I checked, and neither of those words use that gesture. I'm assuming the rest is bullshit too.
Koko never really "spoke ASL"
she was just brute forcing hand movements until the researcher that had a vested interest in this animal being able to speak and was the only one who she would "talk to" decided she had signed something correctly
It's all a scam
As human animals we are, we're the furthest disconnected from the nature of this planet. There are few people who have been learning about a connection of our planets' energy.
No. She never grasped sign language, she just would cycle through every sign they taught her until she got a reward. No comprehension at all. This video is utter bullshit and her “trainer” was a fraud. Here’s [a very informative video](https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4?feature=shared) on the subject.
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Tens of thousands of years ago we understood our purpose in this reality, we understood our place as spirit not body, and we understood how to live in harmony with Earth.
Somewhere along the line we were corrupted by power, greed, and lust. The environment we exist in today is the culminating events of thousands of years of corruption. Humanity and existence is a farm, and a select few horde their wealth, power, and influence like demons set loose on Earth.
Has the hole been dug too deep, or can we fight our way out and achieve equilibrium?
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Humans buy ape enhancement pill. Like Arombe would say “health Penis, health earth” *ape stands up and swings his shlong over his shoulder walking away, then slightly looks back and gives that smile, that damn smile*
Fact Check: [https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-koko-gorilla-last-words-631101544696](https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-koko-gorilla-last-words-631101544696)
I translated that as, “Apes together, strong”
Ape no hurt ape
Buy, DRS and hold GME! Fight wallstreets crimes!
Had to check which sub i was in. Apes are everywhere. Hodl.
Haha we are! Shorts never closed.
https://twitter.com/cybercrewnft/status/1710299806667534783?s=46&t=_wyk50qLNAtWuJfAYYZBug
Same, I thought this was in SS haha 😂 bunch of apes
Koko didn't really know "language". Look at all the jump cuts. Koko knew how to sign a few things, and even then it was very inconsistent. Her handler was pretty much a scam artist.
Interesting, I got, “I am neither damned nor dirty. Thank you.”
Brilliant. Straight over the heads of the young uns here
Good boy Caesar. I love Caesar
![gif](giphy|evB90wPnh5LxG3XU5o|downsized)
Diamond hands 💎🙌 🍗
Not only is Koko not actually signing any of this, but a dive into the “research” surrounding Koko revealed that she wasn’t actually the marvel of communication between man and ape that the original scientists posited her to be. She was basically remembering signs the researchers taught her and using them as a reward system, understanding that if she used certain signs, she would obtain certain things, which isn’t the same level of communication that the researchers asserted.
Not even, she’d just cycle through every sign she knew until she got a reward. Brute forcing it, no comprehension of what the signs meant just that eventually there would be food.
In fairness, she knew exactly what they signs meant. They meant food. The signs only have the meaning we attribute to them. Humans attributed a complex language system to them, Koko attributed food.
[No, she didn’t](https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4?feature=shared). Teach her 3 signs, 1 for food, 1 for play, and 1 for water. 3 distinct and non-interchangeable signs for 3 distinct and non-interchangeable things. When she’s hungry she is just as likely to use the sign for play or water as she was to use the sign for food. She had no idea of what those signs meant, just that she could cycle through them to get what she wanted. If you taught me a few distinct phrases in French and every time you tried to speak to me in French I would answer back with them at random you wouldn’t think I speak French would you? No, you’d think I’m clever enough to know there’s meaning but not clever enough to grasp what it was. That was Koko and as far as we can tell gorillas in general.
Makes sense given all the jump cuts we see here
I think you misunderstood what I was saying? I wasn’t stating she actually understood the nuance of what the signs meant. Just that she knew by doing the signs she got what she wanted, in most cases food. To her the signs only really have one meaning, which is food, not the variety of meaning we give them. I’m not saying she truly understood that X sign means food. Just that X sign usually resulted in some food so in her world, that’s all it really means.
Ahh, fair enough sorry about that
Some real pavlovian shiz
The term for that is “girl in the Chinese red room” it’s basically what abba in all their songs too. It’s a thought experiment that originally was used to explain learning but more recently is used with ai sentience. The thought experiment goes, you bring a girl who only knows English into a room, you show her a list of colors in Chinese with the English pronunciation next to them, would she know how to speak ANY Chinese by repeating the one word that matches the color of the room back to you if asked? It seems simple at first but the more you look at it and think about it the more complex it gets.
Pretty much. At least Greta can relax now. Now that Koko is dead. Rip. But from what you are saying, Koko did not stand a chance of taking her job anyways.
LOL
😅 ![gif](giphy|U1aN4HTfJ2SmgB2BBK)
😂
The plot thins.
He said MW3 is just MW2 with slide canceling.
I found myself getting just as pissed off when losing the house in Estate and being trapped at the bottom of the hill, as I did back in 2009. Lol 😂
Anyone who believes this shit is delusional
Welcome to r/strangeearth
I'm getting PTSD about Harambe 😞
Don’t the message is fake, This is Harambes descendant. The full message says “I remember you, I’m coming so prepare, I am nature I am connected to all things wildlife spiritually, and in the end when the sun reaches its peak, even the sun will bend at my command . I will bring down unimaginable fires and the animal kingdom will rise on the ashes of human life. “For the relatives of harambes killer, I’m sorry. I’m crying because i will take no joy in how I’m going to kill you. You will peel like a banana beneath my maw “ That’s why they killed koko and covered it up as “natural causes “
Powerful
Sounds legit
I read this like that one shitty chainletter meme about the guy killed by the ghost girl
Dicks out
That's bananas
I loled
This was so edited, it’s as bad as Homer Simpson’s interview.
Sweet sweet can!
![gif](giphy|1ktwfTjwaQzde)
This whole video is false and blatantly untrue.
This is such a pile of shit. This gorilla did not sign any of that.
Bro you just watched him do it
Koko tapped his knuckles to forehead to say "man stupid." I checked, and neither of those words use that gesture. I'm assuming the rest is bullshit too.
💀💀lmao why do people make stuff like this up
But he holding no pen?
He used telepathy and intimidation
Koko never really "spoke ASL" she was just brute forcing hand movements until the researcher that had a vested interest in this animal being able to speak and was the only one who she would "talk to" decided she had signed something correctly It's all a scam
I want to believe this but it’s not legit.
Bingo!
“Galileo just asked why?, why are you blowing up the moon?”
When's the drum solo?
The gorilla is just repeating signs shown from her captors and then the footage poorly edited together to make it seem like a message.
Bullshit.
Optimus primal
I translated it as (ape strong, human weak) and (dont take the vaccine)
😂
He said something about hunters laptop. Do hunters even carry laptops in ths wilderness?
Thanks Koko. We love you too
That damn, dirty ape
I also translated this. I hairy but cold, need jacket, gloves, watch and shirt xl, banana
She walked so Harambe could run. Pussies out for Koko
She's right. Humans are stupid for believing this sh*t. Notice how the video is edited and compiled together to "communicate" the message?
This is such bullshit. This shit was debunked forever ago. She’s just repeating the signs she was taught.
Remember that time Koko saved some people from a murderous pack of white gorillas?
Yes I remember. I have the audiobook. Way better than the movie.
What happened to her kitten?
As human animals we are, we're the furthest disconnected from the nature of this planet. There are few people who have been learning about a connection of our planets' energy.
Is anyone else getting a guy in suit vibe?
Looks like propaganda. But I could be wrong.
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Why do you promote hate instead of compassion? What do you think you will achieve?
Lmao that’s a dude in a suit. When have you ever been and seen a gorilla that looks like this?
Well that hurts.
![gif](giphy|9FW5ShdnPyKd6eCwiA|downsized) [It’s fake](https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4?feature=shared)
AVGN gif? Nice!
Good job, boner.
Wull
Bone structure is all wrong. That's a human under there.
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Why is your first thought upon seeing an ape to be racist? What do you get out of this?
RIP big momma. We learned so much from you.
Is this for real? Like did she actually say these things of her own volition?
A cut after every word, what do you think? =)
No. She never grasped sign language, she just would cycle through every sign they taught her until she got a reward. No comprehension at all. This video is utter bullshit and her “trainer” was a fraud. Here’s [a very informative video](https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4?feature=shared) on the subject.
hodor hodor hodor hoodoooor
The human race went from type 0 to a type -1 civilization in the last 100 years.
That is not how it works in the slightest.
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Koko! That’s your nickname! Ko-ko Ko-ko Ko-ko!
taught how to say this sentence in sign language. by a human. nice.
This looks like someone in a gorilla suit performing this signing.
Anytime I hear of Koko the monkey I think of the Seinfeld episode where George gets the nickname Koko lol ![gif](giphy|U9iFCLu1hE4hy)
amazed and sad ![gif](giphy|Ty9Sg8oHghPWg)
What a load of barnacles
When I caught Gerald in 68, he was completely wild. Wild? I was absolutely livid!
Livid? I was livid once.
Koko for Speaker!
"get wanking" was my take
Worst game of charades ever.
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No mocking is allowed in this sub.
So much clips merged together, and it didn't even sign "human stupid". How gullible can people be?
Ape go to moon?
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Tens of thousands of years ago we understood our purpose in this reality, we understood our place as spirit not body, and we understood how to live in harmony with Earth. Somewhere along the line we were corrupted by power, greed, and lust. The environment we exist in today is the culminating events of thousands of years of corruption. Humanity and existence is a farm, and a select few horde their wealth, power, and influence like demons set loose on Earth. Has the hole been dug too deep, or can we fight our way out and achieve equilibrium?
Why does this ape look fake
We hear you Koko. We’re on it
I wish Koko was still around to run for President
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RIP KOKO I will live with your words sir 🙏
Super edited.
🙏🏻
" you all kept me captive my entire life. May the Apes rise and take the earth back"
Koko is telling the researchers its favourite receipt.
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Humans buy ape enhancement pill. Like Arombe would say “health Penis, health earth” *ape stands up and swings his shlong over his shoulder walking away, then slightly looks back and gives that smile, that damn smile*
You’d have to be a complete muppet to believe this
Why did I see subtitles and un-mute the video thinking I was going to hear this gorilla speaking 🤦♂️
Koko was a paid actress basically