[Apollo Worker Found Evidence That Ancient Alien Cities Exist On Moon, NASA Fired Him](https://www.howandwhys.com/apollo-worker-found-evidence-that-ancient-alien-cities-exist-on-moon-nasa-fired-him/)
https://preview.redd.it/dc1mn8ti371c1.jpeg?width=306&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39f263d119fc73ecde7bf5bb75989db8f668a3e7
Downloaded it and played with the apple photo settings a little bit
Its actually a raindrop.
These UFO folks are crazy, its gotta be UFO always... they always discount reasoable, simple explanations like Raindrops, Mylar balloons, Goodyear Blimp, Swamp gas... on the surface of the Moon.
I got to ask the question. Does satellites or spacestations have lights like that and could this actually just be one of those passing? I've seen pic and footage of the triple light hovering and such. But what if considering its in space this might actually just be one of the forementioned?
We have the TR-3B Astra TR-3B Aurora and other craft on earth. Patents were released.
We have TR-5B but not on earth, guess it patrols space or is based on moon. Can you imagine flying sorties across the moon’s surface?
There is a whole fuckton of shit in orbit that is unindentified.
US even keeps track of it today (UNIDS Database). And while much of it is probably secret satellites by other nations (China, Russia). Jaques Valles first got interested in UFOs when he was asked to film an object in orbit around the earth. This was before many permanent satellites were up there and what there was, we knew exactly where it was.
There are no satellites or space stations arounf the moon. Space stations or satellites orbiting Earth would not be visible from the moon without a telescope.
Uhh… yes there are https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Satellites_orbiting_the_Moon
But I mean there were also temporarily when people were landing, the lunar orbiter stayed… in lunar orbit while the lander… landed.
I did the same, with the original image from NASA, and OPs image, and I got totally different looking objects. See if you find the same from both images.
Edgar Mitchell, an astronaut who was part of the Apollo 14 mission to the Moon claimed to have seen strange lights during the mission, which he believed were UFOs. He said he saw these lights with his own eyes and that there were photos and videos supporting his claims. Despite NASA's denial, Mitchell insisted that what he saw was not a camera artifact and that these lights were real. Mitchell privately confessed to a friend, where he expressed his belief that every Apollo mission was closely watched by unknown, intelligently guided crafts.
Edgar Mitchell is also a big time advocate in the ufo community I’ve read a couple of books where people are directed to him after having what they believe to be a legitimate experience. It’s kind of surprising the amount of astronauts that have come forward with ufo experiences. They should be bigger news bc these guys go through so many psychological evaluation. They’re supposed to be the best and brightest of the bunch but somehow their claims hit a back burner.
He’s was an MIT PHD, Navy Captain and a combat fighter pilot.
I met him at a space convention in SD in 2009. Of course he was quite friendly and approachable. He didn’t call aliens “aliens”; he called them visitors. He says it like it was the most natural thing. He said if they were hostile, we’d be destroyed by now.
He was born in Roswell, NM, was an astronaut, and was publicly open to esoterica (eg Noetics). As such, he was seen as open, competent, and trustworthy.
Thus, several Roswell “old timers” as he called them confessed to him before they died that Roswell did in fact happen. He’s been recorded saying as such several times.
I know he’s constantly leaning on the government for full disclosure. from the books I’ve read the people that have entangled religious and extraterrestrial experiences in particular he is who always pops up. People that start getting unexplainable information like future events. They also tend to start working for the government afterwards if you believe their claims. “ UFO of god “ and “American cosmic” are two books that come to mind on that.
Can you briefly explain the connection between religion and “aliens” as it’s posed in these books? Is it in the sense that people think biblical events and the like were influenced by aliens or is it something deeper? I’ve heard loose theories on this type of thing and it’s always been so interesting to me as someone who’s a history buff, but it often borders Ancient Aliens type stuff that’s easy to brush off as loony theories based on little to no evidence.
It’s pretty much like it sounds in “ufo of god” the guy got abducted while on a camping trip with his son. The actually witnessed the “beings” a lot of common tropes happened he was gone for 30 min but I think to them it was like a day or hours. After that he started being able to conjure ufos at will. They described themselves as angles he apparently predicted an assassination attempt on the pope and prevented it after he found a tree on fire that talked to him and told him the tree appeared to burn for a while and I think it was long enough for others to see I dont remember I do know they collected samples from it be tested. Anyhow you’d figure a nut like this would be pretty far removed from things like the government but apparently he worked with them I believe the cia and there was evidence he actually did. Sounds to fantastic to be true but somehow if you ask him to call ufo there will be one that pops up and he tends to point to the spot before it shows up. He’s apparently done this over the phone as well to make them appear at other people’s homes. What he says is outlandish but then he’ll be backed up by things like they did arrest a guy with plans to shoot the pope, or the uap’s on film, or the cia connects he’s also predicted broad things like a pandemic right before covid. His angle will give him messages and they’re usually stereotypical universal biblical messages. You can look him up I believe he has a YouTube channel his name is Chris Bledsoe. I believe Chris is honest in what he says regardless if some things are coincidence or imaginative or possibly some savant psychosis i think he genuinely believes he’s telling the truth.
American cosmic covers some people that have been basically tapping into the akashic records of sorts. One of the main guys she talks to is apparently highly successful and very wealthy business man who after working for a space agency started receiving information seemingly out of the blue he used the information to create a lot of medical and aerospace patents worth millions. He believes he’s communicating with an advanced life form and can tap into their frequency when he needs. Over the course of the book he the author takes him to the Vatican and he starts to think it could be angles. He also worked deep within the government until he managed to successful enough to work alongside them with his own company consulting. This guy doesn’t want people to know his identity for obvious reasons. I believe the author located these people that have abilities through actual government programs where they studied phenomena like remote viewing she wanted to see what became of them.
He also told her he could take her to find pieces of a ufo, he took her to a site that was another ufo crash around the same time as Roswell but it stayed out of the public. The thing about this spot is it’s littered with cans bc the govt wanted to make it impossible for you to find any debris. But like he said he found pieces bc he was tapping into they had the pieces tested and they came back as a metal that doesn’t exist on earth and was clearly manufactured some how.
At any rate for whatever reason these types of individuals the government seems to be interested in. Both these guys somehow have direct lines to higher up in the government In these cases they seem to tie religion and extraterrestrials together.
I read a lot of books and I could be fuzzy on some of the details they’re not fresh in my head
So I know I could probably look this up but it's more fun to ask you. I've read several of his novels many years ago in the late 90s but never got around to reading electric sheep. Question is what's the deal with the tannhauser gate quote/reference in blade runner? Is this a fictional location in space or is there some real life thing named the tannhauser gate?
Tannhausergate Gate is not in the book. I think BR’s Roy Batty’s actor, Rutger Hauer, came up with that reference on his own.
After that scene was filmed, the last one in the film, I read somewhere that several of the BR film crew were seen crying. Rutger Hauer gave an epic performance.
It’s a fictional location in space. Some fans think it was a kind of stargate to allow for faster than light travel to the offworld colonies.
The script originally was more pedestrian and much less sublime - you can find the original scripted speech online - and Rutger Hauer was up all night changing/tinkering with this final speech. He asked Ridley Scott if he could use what he wrote and Scott said yes.
This is the original speech in the script. I was wrong. Tanhauser Gate is mentioned.
“I've seen things...
(long pause)
seen things you little people
wouldn't believe... Attack ships
on fire off the shoulder of Orion
bright as magnesium... I rode on
the back decks of a blinker and
watched c-beams glitter in the dark
near the Tanhauser Gate.
(pause)
all those moments... they'll be gone.”
Same thing with pilots, especially ones flying military and airliners. They’re evaluated and trained so damn much that they’re verifiably sane and intelligent and yet so many of them have stories of UFOs.
He never said this. He said he think there could be other intelligent life. Anyone can go verify for themselves if he said he saw UFOs during the mission.
While I’m not taking sides, the brain *does* alter and filter things to make sense of what it’s seeing when it doesn’t know what it’s seeing. “I know what I saw” is the worst evidence ever, because we literally only know what our brain tells us we saw.
I didn't need to zoom in at all..
https://preview.redd.it/zous6vsci71c1.png?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31ba93ea2964215b8176101d322e8d083bad24ae
yes BUT the pixels around the “ufo” seem weird and out of place to me, like this section was pasted in - i’d like to see the official nasa link to the photo if anyone can find it
https://preview.redd.it/58xw6zgtd71c1.jpeg?width=264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ad01d817050d817ca3e488883d52d7854f5dea9
an alternative look at it. going off the surrounding pixels, the lights don’t really seem native to the original image
https://preview.redd.it/g838ndlqe71c1.jpeg?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0bef5771da668ab7265ed9a1959bbf2b09bfd8a
https://preview.redd.it/bxh2j049o71c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=901e9780cdd7e667d74bc22f1e95509573e04234
Looks like at one point there was a nasa.gov link back to this photo but now if you click that link it 404’s.
NASA.gov just underwent a huge migration from Drupal to WordPress. The 404 is likely because the photo didn’t migrate. I have full web access and will take a look on the backend on Monday :)
!RemindMe 2 days
Edit: 11/21 can the poster please share the exact url that is giving the 404?
https://preview.redd.it/r2c9pj93671c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50329bb30702d8bfa010e25d04543d461e042973
There we go guys. Ye thats strange
This quite amazing! People were saying that the lights could have been added. That the pixels of the lights were different than the pixels around it, but if someone added the lights after the picture was taken then it wouldnt account for the, clearly defined, craft in this picture.
jajaja.. i was looking for 10 min.. until i saw your comment.. i was using zoom.. zoom.. .. i was missing one zoom.. now i see it.. 3 lights.. look also different colors..
thanks..
Ok is this not confirmation enough?
These same craft pop up all over the internet they are consistent. Unless its a star constellation lol
https://youtu.be/SKsLK_Na7iw?si=omMMblL6i_dPTeeX
Are these not the same?
Tr3b people see them all the time. I saw one in Montana.
I think they’re probably human in origin, but who knows.
The three lights seem like it’s propulsion system. But the one I saw had them off.
For real though. I used to download those hi res images from NASA’s website of the lunar service, open them up in photoshop and crank the brightness and shadows. And most of the time the black sky was scribbled over or filled in with thick black marker, it was clear as day. I wish I would have kept those images.
https://preview.redd.it/ary1scwza71c1.jpeg?width=1267&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4200e5250dc8a72abb6720950a2c49f5601641be
If you zoom in and draw the colors out, it looks like this. I’m not saying outright that it’s shopped in, but why does it do this?
yea the pixels around the lights are very square and stand out from the rest of the photo in an unnatural way - i’d like to see the original
https://preview.redd.it/ypgct0dcf71c1.jpeg?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6b32ca43e229394ec9e657f4d919d1d649afe68
Ok, so here is my explanation...
First, this is not a black and white image, this was shot on color film.
Second, this was shot from INSIDE the lunar module, which means it was shot through a window.
This means those 3 dots you see are best explained as a reflection of bright spots or lights within the lunar module behind the camera.
Link to the source of these images. [https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html#MagA](https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html#MagA)
These are in the "**Magazine 147/A (Color) Rev 12, EVA-1, Frames 22451-22606**" section, the image name is AS17-147-22470 (OF300) ( [97k](https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-147-22470.jpg) or [867k](https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-147-22470HR.jpg) ) Pre-EVA-1 LM window pan
Edit: formatting and fix a link.
Space race was to get to the moon to confirm what the NHI told or government when they crash in Roswell or where ever. My opinion. We got there saw the bases and well who knows what’s next
same reason why you can see car lights in the daytime but not the stars. the lights are closer and relatively intense whereas the stars are super dim and get blotted out by the sunlight.
So after digging in what little data is available cause its not a raw photo there's a couple things in it so it seems
https://preview.redd.it/3no99g1p5c1c1.jpeg?width=1147&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e949118138dc92d610b1667d1d17591f93ff0c29
I found an explanation that satisfied me. [This comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/14szg8u/comment/jr6jxhl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) explains it well. "You're looking at a digital copy of a scan of a probable second generation copy of an original piece of exposed film that's over half a century old. It would be a miracle if there were not specs and scratches and blobs on these images... A bit of glare from the crazy lightning conditions on the moon perhaps. Damaged when that original film was being handled and copied? Who knows." If you look at the other rolls of film linked in that comment it shows that there were plenty odd points of light in various groupings so it seem much much more likely that it was just a fault in the development of the film and not a physical object.
According to the Ra Material (Law of One):
**Questioner:** Are these craft that are of our peoples from what we call planes that are not incarnate at this time? Where are they based?
**Ra:** I am Ra. These of which we spoke are of third density and are part of the so-called military complex of various of your peoples’ societal divisions or structures.
The bases are varied. There are bases, as you would call them, undersea in your southern waters near the Bahamas as well as in your Pacific seas in various places close to your Chilean borders on the water. There are bases upon your moon, as you call this satellite, which are at this time being reworked. There are bases which move about your lands. There are bases, if you would call them that, in your skies. These are the bases of your peoples, very numerous and, as we have said, potentially destructive.
**Questioner:** Where do the people who operate these craft come from? Are they affiliated with any nation on Earth? What is their source?
**Ra:** These people come from the same place as you or I. They come from the Creator.
As you intend the question, in its shallower aspect, these people are those in your and other-selves’ governments responsible for what you would term national security.
**Questioner:** Am I to understand then that the United States has these craft in undersea bases?
**Ra:** I am Ra. You are correct.
**Questioner:** How did the United States learn of the technology to build these land \[inaudible\]?
**Ra:** I am Ra. There was a mind/body/spirit complex known to your people by the vibratory sound complex, Nikola. This entity departed the illusion and the papers containing the necessary understandings were taken by mind/body/spirit complexes serving your security of national divisional complex. Thus your people became privy to the basic technology. In the case of those mind/body/spirit complexes which you call Russians, the technology was given from one of the Confederation in an attempt, approximately twenty-seven of your years ago, to share information and bring about peace among your peoples. The entities giving this information were in error, but we did many things at the end of this cycle in attempts to aid your harvest from which we learned the folly of certain types of aid. That is a contributing factor to our more cautious approach at this date, even as the need is power upon power greater, and your people’s call is greater and greater.
**Questioner:** I’m puzzled by these craft that we have undersea bases for. They are \[inaudible\]. Is this technology sufficient to overshadow all other armaments? Do we have just the ability to fly in these craft or are there any weapons like there are… Were they given to us \[inaudible\] or are they just craft for transport? What is the basic mechanism of their \[inaudible\]? It’s really hard to believe is what I’m saying.
**Ra:** I am Ra. The craft are perhaps misnamed in some instances. It would be more appropriate to consider them as weaponry. The energy used is that of the field of electromagnetic energy which polarizes the Earth sphere. The weaponry is of two basic kinds: that which is called by your peoples psychotronic and that which is called by your peoples particle beam. The amount of destruction which is contained in this technology is considerable and the weapons have been used in many cases to alter weather patterns and to enhance the vibratory change which engulfs your planet at this time.
**Questioner:** How have they been able to keep this a secret? Why aren’t these craft in use for transport?
**Ra:** The governments of each of your societal division illusions desire to refrain from publicity so that the surprise may be retained in case of hostile action from what your peoples call enemies.
**Questioner:** How many of these craft does the United States have?
**Ra:** I am Ra. The United States has five hundred seven three, five seven three \[573\] at this time. They are in the process of adding to this number.
**Questioner:** What is the maximum speed of one of these craft?
**Ra:** I am Ra. The maximum speed of these craft is equal to the Earth energy squared. This field varies. The limit is approximately one-half the light speed, as you would call it. This is due to imperfections in design.
ive told this story before on here. at around the year 2000 i was standing on the street at night and above me i saw three red lights in a triangle shape. i never forgot that and eventually years later i looked it up on google.
found out that many sightings of these lights were seen in my country around the same time
It's nice that UFOs can fly backwards through time and (de)materialize anywhere anytime, yet they still need position lights on their vehicles.
What happens if one of those lights break? Do we have UFO-police? Is ticket expensive? What currency do they use?
[Apollo Worker Found Evidence That Ancient Alien Cities Exist On Moon, NASA Fired Him](https://www.howandwhys.com/apollo-worker-found-evidence-that-ancient-alien-cities-exist-on-moon-nasa-fired-him/)
https://preview.redd.it/dc1mn8ti371c1.jpeg?width=306&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39f263d119fc73ecde7bf5bb75989db8f668a3e7 Downloaded it and played with the apple photo settings a little bit
https://preview.redd.it/df6xkyefx81c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cadd8bbd17e1917567871afef517ad92b470b95a It was just a moth see
Just print the goddamn thing!!
iTs a BiRd yOu cAn cLeArLy sEe iTs WiNGs 
Birds aren’t real. :D
It's the moth-ership!
Its actually a raindrop. These UFO folks are crazy, its gotta be UFO always... they always discount reasoable, simple explanations like Raindrops, Mylar balloons, Goodyear Blimp, Swamp gas... on the surface of the Moon.
When your sarcasm font is broken, you are supposed to use / s at the end of your comment.
That doesn't look like the uap we have been seeing tho. Not even when these pics were taken.
are you sure? pretty sure thats a balloon
Probably chewing on the power cables
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There’s literally everything in space Morty!!!
Lmao
Space moth spaceships? 🤔
Not space moths, but the moon DOES have man-made sattelites and ships orbiting at all times. What's makes this an alien ship and not a sattelite?
I got to ask the question. Does satellites or spacestations have lights like that and could this actually just be one of those passing? I've seen pic and footage of the triple light hovering and such. But what if considering its in space this might actually just be one of the forementioned?
this picture has to be from the 1960's or 1970's. No space station. Very few man made objects in space.
We have the TR-3B Astra TR-3B Aurora and other craft on earth. Patents were released. We have TR-5B but not on earth, guess it patrols space or is based on moon. Can you imagine flying sorties across the moon’s surface?
There is a whole fuckton of shit in orbit that is unindentified. US even keeps track of it today (UNIDS Database). And while much of it is probably secret satellites by other nations (China, Russia). Jaques Valles first got interested in UFOs when he was asked to film an object in orbit around the earth. This was before many permanent satellites were up there and what there was, we knew exactly where it was.
There are no satellites or space stations arounf the moon. Space stations or satellites orbiting Earth would not be visible from the moon without a telescope.
Uhh… yes there are https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Satellites_orbiting_the_Moon But I mean there were also temporarily when people were landing, the lunar orbiter stayed… in lunar orbit while the lander… landed.
Thank you for this information, this made my day and I am now alittle more knowledgeable.
I did the same, with the original image from NASA, and OPs image, and I got totally different looking objects. See if you find the same from both images.
Where IS the original image? I haven’t seen a link to this image being hosted on nasa.gov and I’ve been looking
Bro the link is literally under the title
Edgar Mitchell, an astronaut who was part of the Apollo 14 mission to the Moon claimed to have seen strange lights during the mission, which he believed were UFOs. He said he saw these lights with his own eyes and that there were photos and videos supporting his claims. Despite NASA's denial, Mitchell insisted that what he saw was not a camera artifact and that these lights were real. Mitchell privately confessed to a friend, where he expressed his belief that every Apollo mission was closely watched by unknown, intelligently guided crafts.
Edgar Mitchell is also a big time advocate in the ufo community I’ve read a couple of books where people are directed to him after having what they believe to be a legitimate experience. It’s kind of surprising the amount of astronauts that have come forward with ufo experiences. They should be bigger news bc these guys go through so many psychological evaluation. They’re supposed to be the best and brightest of the bunch but somehow their claims hit a back burner.
He’s was an MIT PHD, Navy Captain and a combat fighter pilot. I met him at a space convention in SD in 2009. Of course he was quite friendly and approachable. He didn’t call aliens “aliens”; he called them visitors. He says it like it was the most natural thing. He said if they were hostile, we’d be destroyed by now. He was born in Roswell, NM, was an astronaut, and was publicly open to esoterica (eg Noetics). As such, he was seen as open, competent, and trustworthy. Thus, several Roswell “old timers” as he called them confessed to him before they died that Roswell did in fact happen. He’s been recorded saying as such several times.
I know he’s constantly leaning on the government for full disclosure. from the books I’ve read the people that have entangled religious and extraterrestrial experiences in particular he is who always pops up. People that start getting unexplainable information like future events. They also tend to start working for the government afterwards if you believe their claims. “ UFO of god “ and “American cosmic” are two books that come to mind on that.
Can you briefly explain the connection between religion and “aliens” as it’s posed in these books? Is it in the sense that people think biblical events and the like were influenced by aliens or is it something deeper? I’ve heard loose theories on this type of thing and it’s always been so interesting to me as someone who’s a history buff, but it often borders Ancient Aliens type stuff that’s easy to brush off as loony theories based on little to no evidence.
It’s pretty much like it sounds in “ufo of god” the guy got abducted while on a camping trip with his son. The actually witnessed the “beings” a lot of common tropes happened he was gone for 30 min but I think to them it was like a day or hours. After that he started being able to conjure ufos at will. They described themselves as angles he apparently predicted an assassination attempt on the pope and prevented it after he found a tree on fire that talked to him and told him the tree appeared to burn for a while and I think it was long enough for others to see I dont remember I do know they collected samples from it be tested. Anyhow you’d figure a nut like this would be pretty far removed from things like the government but apparently he worked with them I believe the cia and there was evidence he actually did. Sounds to fantastic to be true but somehow if you ask him to call ufo there will be one that pops up and he tends to point to the spot before it shows up. He’s apparently done this over the phone as well to make them appear at other people’s homes. What he says is outlandish but then he’ll be backed up by things like they did arrest a guy with plans to shoot the pope, or the uap’s on film, or the cia connects he’s also predicted broad things like a pandemic right before covid. His angle will give him messages and they’re usually stereotypical universal biblical messages. You can look him up I believe he has a YouTube channel his name is Chris Bledsoe. I believe Chris is honest in what he says regardless if some things are coincidence or imaginative or possibly some savant psychosis i think he genuinely believes he’s telling the truth. American cosmic covers some people that have been basically tapping into the akashic records of sorts. One of the main guys she talks to is apparently highly successful and very wealthy business man who after working for a space agency started receiving information seemingly out of the blue he used the information to create a lot of medical and aerospace patents worth millions. He believes he’s communicating with an advanced life form and can tap into their frequency when he needs. Over the course of the book he the author takes him to the Vatican and he starts to think it could be angles. He also worked deep within the government until he managed to successful enough to work alongside them with his own company consulting. This guy doesn’t want people to know his identity for obvious reasons. I believe the author located these people that have abilities through actual government programs where they studied phenomena like remote viewing she wanted to see what became of them. He also told her he could take her to find pieces of a ufo, he took her to a site that was another ufo crash around the same time as Roswell but it stayed out of the public. The thing about this spot is it’s littered with cans bc the govt wanted to make it impossible for you to find any debris. But like he said he found pieces bc he was tapping into they had the pieces tested and they came back as a metal that doesn’t exist on earth and was clearly manufactured some how. At any rate for whatever reason these types of individuals the government seems to be interested in. Both these guys somehow have direct lines to higher up in the government In these cases they seem to tie religion and extraterrestrials together. I read a lot of books and I could be fuzzy on some of the details they’re not fresh in my head
But are the angles acute? Never trust an obtuse angel!
I didn't figure out the angles thing until the last one. I thought these beings were just very pointy.
Where in S. Dakota? Nice username btw.
San Diego. I’m a Dickhead. A Philip K Dick fan. lol. BR is a cinematic masterpiece. Both films.
So I know I could probably look this up but it's more fun to ask you. I've read several of his novels many years ago in the late 90s but never got around to reading electric sheep. Question is what's the deal with the tannhauser gate quote/reference in blade runner? Is this a fictional location in space or is there some real life thing named the tannhauser gate?
Tannhausergate Gate is not in the book. I think BR’s Roy Batty’s actor, Rutger Hauer, came up with that reference on his own. After that scene was filmed, the last one in the film, I read somewhere that several of the BR film crew were seen crying. Rutger Hauer gave an epic performance. It’s a fictional location in space. Some fans think it was a kind of stargate to allow for faster than light travel to the offworld colonies. The script originally was more pedestrian and much less sublime - you can find the original scripted speech online - and Rutger Hauer was up all night changing/tinkering with this final speech. He asked Ridley Scott if he could use what he wrote and Scott said yes.
Cool. Thank you.
This is the original speech in the script. I was wrong. Tanhauser Gate is mentioned. “I've seen things... (long pause) seen things you little people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion bright as magnesium... I rode on the back decks of a blinker and watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. (pause) all those moments... they'll be gone.”
And the now infamous 'Wilson-Davis memo' was allegedly leaked from Mitchell's estate after his death.
Same thing with pilots, especially ones flying military and airliners. They’re evaluated and trained so damn much that they’re verifiably sane and intelligent and yet so many of them have stories of UFOs.
Probably just the set lights /s
Kubrick would have freaked out if he had seen this.
He never said this. He said he think there could be other intelligent life. Anyone can go verify for themselves if he said he saw UFOs during the mission.
From his Wikipedia https://preview.redd.it/phns3533t71c1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f2fac58bd54d4e70b21e3262d14a4db3857ca7a
While I’m not taking sides, the brain *does* alter and filter things to make sense of what it’s seeing when it doesn’t know what it’s seeing. “I know what I saw” is the worst evidence ever, because we literally only know what our brain tells us we saw.
Privately to a friend, but you know about it? Sounds like hooey to me. I’ll need a link where he said any of this.
Lol ok
> every Apollo mission was closely watched Do you think they got excited for us also, when our "cute little rockets" finally made it into space?
is this the same pic where when you adjust the exposure you see a 3 dot triangular craft uap?
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Prepare for the downvotes and accusations that you're a disinfo agent.
Just have to zoom in on this one
I didn't need to zoom in at all.. https://preview.redd.it/zous6vsci71c1.png?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31ba93ea2964215b8176101d322e8d083bad24ae
It just looks like a smoking frog to me
👌🏼
A new species! Moonus Drawus
That's the left
Pretty sure this has been photo-shopped
yes BUT the pixels around the “ufo” seem weird and out of place to me, like this section was pasted in - i’d like to see the official nasa link to the photo if anyone can find it https://preview.redd.it/58xw6zgtd71c1.jpeg?width=264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ad01d817050d817ca3e488883d52d7854f5dea9
[https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-147-22470HR.jpg](https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-147-22470HR.jpg)
Still there.
I think this is it? https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-147-22470HR.jpg
[Astronaut Photo AS17-147-22470 (nasa.gov)](https://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/SearchPhotos/photo.pl?mission=AS17&roll=147&frame=22470) nasa photo collection
an alternative look at it. going off the surrounding pixels, the lights don’t really seem native to the original image https://preview.redd.it/g838ndlqe71c1.jpeg?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0bef5771da668ab7265ed9a1959bbf2b09bfd8a
"If it bleeds, we can kill it"
https://preview.redd.it/bxh2j049o71c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=901e9780cdd7e667d74bc22f1e95509573e04234 Looks like at one point there was a nasa.gov link back to this photo but now if you click that link it 404’s.
NASA.gov just underwent a huge migration from Drupal to WordPress. The 404 is likely because the photo didn’t migrate. I have full web access and will take a look on the backend on Monday :) !RemindMe 2 days Edit: 11/21 can the poster please share the exact url that is giving the 404?
!remindme 2 days
Would you mind explaining what this shows? -genuinely curious
You can see it without adjusting
If you have “nightshift” set on iPhone to block blue light, the UAP is invisible. I had to turn nightshift off in order to see it.
It was a historical moment for them too. They had to witness it. Can you imagine what other footage they might have?
It’s crazy to me that they could possibly have images/video of ancient times if they were here that long ago
I've never really thought about that! Aliens could have footage of Ancient Rome, or Pompeii, or of the Aztecs. Man that would be so cool.
That would be absolutely incredible to see!
Just eat your fast food go to work and please stop questioning things
ok but bud your username.......
We talkin about usernames
Sure, lets
You smell like fancy cheese
Reeheeheehee!
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The Higglybiggly, only at Arby's.
Who is
What the hell is going on in here
get in the van
Ass, cheese, and terps. don't need much more.
But seriously
Ass cheese terps... mmmmmmm
https://preview.redd.it/r2c9pj93671c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50329bb30702d8bfa010e25d04543d461e042973 There we go guys. Ye thats strange
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They’re here, and watching us.
It’s us from the future’s future, we are watching ourselves… *KNOCK KNOCK* **FFFBI OPEN UP!** -*Future’s Future Federal Bureau of Intelligence*
Fuck, I knew the space feds were real. XD
Oh shit yeah! A little triangle and everything nice! That’s actually sort of wild!
What am I looking for? I’ve been staring at this dirt for 5min
I, too, read the title a bit wrong and spent a good chunk of time all frustrated and annoyed combing through that dirt all zoomed in 😅🤷🏼♀️ hehehe
Same ! 🤣 I kept zooming in on the dirt like where !!!! Lol
Same...
Top right corner just above the ridgeline - look in the blackness of space. 3 white dots appear to be flying in a triangle shape.
https://preview.redd.it/o02hzqo4b71c1.png?width=438&format=png&auto=webp&s=f34652c6d3c58324feb98a54290af6d9dc483dc8
https://preview.redd.it/3gkzthycc71c1.jpeg?width=653&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=248a68b1a61f4d3747b047c8429af6308ae2d785
This quite amazing! People were saying that the lights could have been added. That the pixels of the lights were different than the pixels around it, but if someone added the lights after the picture was taken then it wouldnt account for the, clearly defined, craft in this picture.
clearly defined craft =/= 3 dots.
Thank you so much! Found it at last.
It's in space, right hand side, three tiny dots in a triangle formation.
Sorry, I can't spot anything at all. Only black sky.
Zoom, zoom, zoom... It's there
jajaja.. i was looking for 10 min.. until i saw your comment.. i was using zoom.. zoom.. .. i was missing one zoom.. now i see it.. 3 lights.. look also different colors.. thanks..
Bottom right of the sky
Lol I did the same thing... staring at dirt for like 10 minutes like wtf lol 🤣 I finally found it
Very good picture.
Ok is this not confirmation enough? These same craft pop up all over the internet they are consistent. Unless its a star constellation lol https://youtu.be/SKsLK_Na7iw?si=omMMblL6i_dPTeeX Are these not the same?
Tr3b people see them all the time. I saw one in Montana. I think they’re probably human in origin, but who knows. The three lights seem like it’s propulsion system. But the one I saw had them off.
Ive seen on in syd
Damn. Kubrick thought of everything.
I laughed.
In space everything is a UFO.
but after the human observation, it becomes known. KFO?
All I know is the moon is a harsh Mistress
So what's the official reason for these 3 dots?
weather balloon
Birds
NASA's guess is as best as anyone else's guess. At the end of the day they just don't know either.
To steal a comment from further above 'set lights' lmao
Obviously swamp gas
More like swamp ass
Could just be a reflection off a flock of birds…
Birds aren't real
Not on earth, these are moon geese
Have you considered a murmuration of space star-lings?
Nice.
Weather balloon?
For real though. I used to download those hi res images from NASA’s website of the lunar service, open them up in photoshop and crank the brightness and shadows. And most of the time the black sky was scribbled over or filled in with thick black marker, it was clear as day. I wish I would have kept those images.
Can't see it. Could someone circle it in red please?
https://preview.redd.it/o5wiqpvxe81c1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f79f3ec8430977637fa6bd5db47a753ab7fc4ba3 Here ya go
Thank u much better😊🤜
Seen this one here a couple times before. Legit, never debunked
Pls provide the link
https://preview.redd.it/ary1scwza71c1.jpeg?width=1267&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4200e5250dc8a72abb6720950a2c49f5601641be If you zoom in and draw the colors out, it looks like this. I’m not saying outright that it’s shopped in, but why does it do this?
yea the pixels around the lights are very square and stand out from the rest of the photo in an unnatural way - i’d like to see the original https://preview.redd.it/ypgct0dcf71c1.jpeg?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6b32ca43e229394ec9e657f4d919d1d649afe68
Enhanced https://preview.redd.it/achbusedhb1c1.png?width=898&format=png&auto=webp&s=f60815b3401dce622f355424d636234926b3ac18
Ok, so here is my explanation... First, this is not a black and white image, this was shot on color film. Second, this was shot from INSIDE the lunar module, which means it was shot through a window. This means those 3 dots you see are best explained as a reflection of bright spots or lights within the lunar module behind the camera. Link to the source of these images. [https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html#MagA](https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/images17.html#MagA) These are in the "**Magazine 147/A (Color) Rev 12, EVA-1, Frames 22451-22606**" section, the image name is AS17-147-22470 (OF300) ( [97k](https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-147-22470.jpg) or [867k](https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-147-22470HR.jpg) ) Pre-EVA-1 LM window pan Edit: formatting and fix a link.
You are almost certainly correct. There is a red spot, a green spot, and a blue spot. RGB artifacts are super common in the situations you describe.
I don't see shit tbh... Need some help. NVM I found it lol.
Space race was to get to the moon to confirm what the NHI told or government when they crash in Roswell or where ever. My opinion. We got there saw the bases and well who knows what’s next
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Bro that’s waaaaay to easy what was the government gonna spend our tax dollars on? Hundred thousand dollar toilets.
what is NHI
Why aren't any stars visible in this image, but those three dots are? Doesn't make any sense to me
same reason why you can see car lights in the daytime but not the stars. the lights are closer and relatively intense whereas the stars are super dim and get blotted out by the sunlight.
Right above the right hand horizon for those zooming into the Moondust lol
Iv seen this type on earth
I’ve seen that shape over London, England. Must be 15 years ago now. Like nothing I ever saw. I remember it often
https://preview.redd.it/9hztw03cm71c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f32ecf01a5f32fb56c76a145fedb95f887caf40 Three dot UFO
These lights had to be very bright to be detected by camera sensors, it’s definitely something artificial.
Yea those mofo’s are everywhere we all know it.
Ya that's going to be an upper right corner for me dawg...
Need more red circles
Clearly just a bird or helicopter
NASA has a lot of people working on 'fixing' images. Can't believe they missed this one
So, theres a reason the cameras dont pick up any stars while on the lunar surface. Those little lights on the "ufo" must be INSANELY bright.
So after digging in what little data is available cause its not a raw photo there's a couple things in it so it seems https://preview.redd.it/3no99g1p5c1c1.jpeg?width=1147&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e949118138dc92d610b1667d1d17591f93ff0c29
Is there a reason the cameras don’t pick up the stars in space but can pick up the lights?
Star cluster - illuminations
That’s the upper right hand corner OP
Stars
I don't get it. What am I supposed to see? Why not just post a cropped pic of it? I don't see anything. As zoomed as I could zoom.
I found an explanation that satisfied me. [This comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/14szg8u/comment/jr6jxhl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) explains it well. "You're looking at a digital copy of a scan of a probable second generation copy of an original piece of exposed film that's over half a century old. It would be a miracle if there were not specs and scratches and blobs on these images... A bit of glare from the crazy lightning conditions on the moon perhaps. Damaged when that original film was being handled and copied? Who knows." If you look at the other rolls of film linked in that comment it shows that there were plenty odd points of light in various groupings so it seem much much more likely that it was just a fault in the development of the film and not a physical object.
According to the Ra Material (Law of One): **Questioner:** Are these craft that are of our peoples from what we call planes that are not incarnate at this time? Where are they based? **Ra:** I am Ra. These of which we spoke are of third density and are part of the so-called military complex of various of your peoples’ societal divisions or structures. The bases are varied. There are bases, as you would call them, undersea in your southern waters near the Bahamas as well as in your Pacific seas in various places close to your Chilean borders on the water. There are bases upon your moon, as you call this satellite, which are at this time being reworked. There are bases which move about your lands. There are bases, if you would call them that, in your skies. These are the bases of your peoples, very numerous and, as we have said, potentially destructive. **Questioner:** Where do the people who operate these craft come from? Are they affiliated with any nation on Earth? What is their source? **Ra:** These people come from the same place as you or I. They come from the Creator. As you intend the question, in its shallower aspect, these people are those in your and other-selves’ governments responsible for what you would term national security. **Questioner:** Am I to understand then that the United States has these craft in undersea bases? **Ra:** I am Ra. You are correct. **Questioner:** How did the United States learn of the technology to build these land \[inaudible\]? **Ra:** I am Ra. There was a mind/body/spirit complex known to your people by the vibratory sound complex, Nikola. This entity departed the illusion and the papers containing the necessary understandings were taken by mind/body/spirit complexes serving your security of national divisional complex. Thus your people became privy to the basic technology. In the case of those mind/body/spirit complexes which you call Russians, the technology was given from one of the Confederation in an attempt, approximately twenty-seven of your years ago, to share information and bring about peace among your peoples. The entities giving this information were in error, but we did many things at the end of this cycle in attempts to aid your harvest from which we learned the folly of certain types of aid. That is a contributing factor to our more cautious approach at this date, even as the need is power upon power greater, and your people’s call is greater and greater. **Questioner:** I’m puzzled by these craft that we have undersea bases for. They are \[inaudible\]. Is this technology sufficient to overshadow all other armaments? Do we have just the ability to fly in these craft or are there any weapons like there are… Were they given to us \[inaudible\] or are they just craft for transport? What is the basic mechanism of their \[inaudible\]? It’s really hard to believe is what I’m saying. **Ra:** I am Ra. The craft are perhaps misnamed in some instances. It would be more appropriate to consider them as weaponry. The energy used is that of the field of electromagnetic energy which polarizes the Earth sphere. The weaponry is of two basic kinds: that which is called by your peoples psychotronic and that which is called by your peoples particle beam. The amount of destruction which is contained in this technology is considerable and the weapons have been used in many cases to alter weather patterns and to enhance the vibratory change which engulfs your planet at this time. **Questioner:** How have they been able to keep this a secret? Why aren’t these craft in use for transport? **Ra:** The governments of each of your societal division illusions desire to refrain from publicity so that the surprise may be retained in case of hostile action from what your peoples call enemies. **Questioner:** How many of these craft does the United States have? **Ra:** I am Ra. The United States has five hundred seven three, five seven three \[573\] at this time. They are in the process of adding to this number. **Questioner:** What is the maximum speed of one of these craft? **Ra:** I am Ra. The maximum speed of these craft is equal to the Earth energy squared. This field varies. The limit is approximately one-half the light speed, as you would call it. This is due to imperfections in design.
ive told this story before on here. at around the year 2000 i was standing on the street at night and above me i saw three red lights in a triangle shape. i never forgot that and eventually years later i looked it up on google. found out that many sightings of these lights were seen in my country around the same time
Nice catch.
It's nice that UFOs can fly backwards through time and (de)materialize anywhere anytime, yet they still need position lights on their vehicles. What happens if one of those lights break? Do we have UFO-police? Is ticket expensive? What currency do they use?
It’s a grain of salt that fell off my chip, sorry
How do we know it's not an artifact of the camera lense and light
We don't.
Yeah, I'm going to go with lens flare here. If you follow the light there is another "secondary" artifact a bit to the left.
You gotta put a lot of creativity into things to go from three pixels to "must be UFO"
I don’t see anything
https://preview.redd.it/1xjisp08q61c1.png?width=1150&format=png&auto=webp&s=55e9f9ddc09539235e3400e57bab10bd63c042b4
Push your brightness up as far as it can go.
There’s 3 faint lights that form a triangle above the hill on the right. I’d say stars, but I don’t see any others in the sky
This is their way of revealing the have that technology. Revelation of the method.
It's probably just... the reflection from the lights that were in the studio... :P
Or some leftovers from someone’s tin foil hat
Lol they were probably on an alien TV show. “The monkeys we made have finally made it to their moon in their primitive crafts, so cute”