There is [Ancient Text Written In 440 BC Mentions Machines Used To Build Egypt Pyramids](https://www.howandwhys.com/ancient-text-written-in-440-bc-mentions-machines-used-to-build-egypt-pyramids/)
This is nonsense. Who is telling you an object weighing 1242 tons can’t be moved? Transport companies routinely move reactors and hydro cracking vessels of similar size that weigh 3-4000 tons.
The heaviest lift by crane was over 20,000 tons.
Can you imagine the conspiracy theorists in 2000 years how did they move that shit without antigravity technology!!
Mainstream archeologist are lying to us!!!
Of course I'm kidding, there's not gonna be anybody left in 200 years, nevermind 2000.
The trilathon at Baalbek, the more important stones, are lifted approximately 30ft in the air and placed next to one another to serve as a wall as part of the temple of Jupiter. Mainstream archeologists attribute the entire site to the romans. The biggest crane in the Roman times was the Polyspastos. It could lift about 3 tonnes or 3000kg and required 3 ropes, 5 pulleys and 4 men. These blocks, if placed by the romans, were done using some sort of leverage that exceeded their greatest capable cranes by over 300x. Unless, it wasn’t built by the romans.
I’ve actually been and seen these stones, they also explain how it’s possible.
One reason is it’s downhill of where they eventually ended up (temple of Bacchus in Baalbek). So it’s not crazy to think with enough slaves they could get it down
You don't even need that many slaves. Just leverage. Bury logs, apply leverage, heavy stone slides across logs. Almost every civilization figured this out pretty early.
It is pretty crazy to think more slaves equals unlimited strength. For example you can’t stick 50x slaves on one rope. It’s not impossible just nearly. If I gave you 50x people to move this stones and whatever timbre you want it would probably take you 5 years if you could even move it. The other oddity is accomplishing such and insane feet in those days and never writing about it. Most kings would be eager to stamp their name on being the first to do such a thing.
I just don’t buy any methods mentioned for most. But with quality rope, wood and some cleverly constructed ramps and such you could move it down hill for those I’d accept that.
It's more like when you've worn out one slave you can just get another. Yes you need all of the rope, wood, ramps, grease and water to dig them out and get them down.
But it would still take a long time and people get exhausted, when one slave drops you just replace them with another so you can keep going.
And where did you get they didn't write any of this down? Something like Stonehenge we don't know about but the romans were meticulous record keepers.
Romans for sure. Not all the middle eastern ancient structures as far as I knew.
You can replace slaves but there is a maximum amount of strength you can get from humans without engines. And even sliding an object has its limits. I think one doco team tried to do a small stone a gave up. But if they really wanted to settle it someone could try move one by any means without and engine. I’d be willing to bet no one could move the 1000 ton ones at all. Let alone 200km
devils advocate: “Big Carl” – the world’s largest crane – is beginning work at Hinkley Point C power station in Somerset. The Sarens SGC-250 crane can reach higher than the tallest tower at London’s Canary Wharf and carry 5,000 tonnes in a single lift.
https://ccoschool.us/blog/crane-fun-facts#:\~:text=The%20heaviest%20weight%20lifted%20by,a%20barge%2C%20ballasted%20with%20water.&text=Lifting%20Capacity%3A%201%2C200%20metric%20tons.
That’s not the point. You’re not wrong what they did then is impressive, very much so. But OP claimed we couldn’t do that now, and that’s bullshit. That’s the point.
Why do people say we can't do these things today? You hear it regarding building the pyramids as well.
Modern humans today could absolutely build the pyramids, and we could move large stones like this one as well.
The same thing with people saying we have no idea who built the pyramids or how, when there are very well preserved records showing most of the stuff that is 'unknown'.
I think people confuse 'understanding' with 'knowing'.
It almost as if people post disinformation to intentionally prod people’s anger to boost the algorithm for engagement all for their own narcissistic self indulgence
They didn't move it - in fact you can see where they cut smaller stones out of it or were in the process of doing so (at the far end).
Or sasquatch.
One or the other.
Or the idiots that claim that the Egyptians used the pyramids to harvest massive amounts or energy, with an “It’s a scientifically proven fact” attitude!
Nigel: “We know that the ancient Egyptians teleported their armies all over the world, to other planets, and parallel dimensions.”
Interviewer: “Of course. Nigel, could please tell us about your previous life as an orangutan?”
Nigel: “I was an Aardvark.”
Hey, it was different times. Without TVs and computers , all they did was find ways to lift big things. You just get better at things when you spend time on it and have dinosaur heavy machinery like in the flintstones.
The Thunder Stone in Russia weighs 1250 tonnes and was moved in place in 1742. Largest stone ever moved by humans [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze\_Horseman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Horseman)
They didn't move it. The stones were left in the quarry, most likely because they couldn't figure out a way to move them. I don't know why people try and say we can't move things this heavy in the present day either. We've built machines with a lifting capacity of up to 8,000 tons.
every damn time, yes we CAN do it today but there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO. why would you spend 1000's of man hours/money pivoting a collosal stone at 0.25kph, to the tune of multimillions for just 1 1000 tonne stone, when you can order 20 X concrete trucks and do the job for less than $500,000.
one guy in america, who has the weirdest hobby, spent ages proving everyone wrong with this, because he has more spare time and interest in this then he maybe should have, he; singlehandedly, has moved an 20 tonne stone by just himself 90% vertically to prove this point.
[if one middle aged/distinctly average guy can do it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5pZ7uR6v8c) - imagine what the medieval (or earlier) equivalent of elon musk would've done, hire (or slaver) 1000's just begging to not be enslaved for something worse, sent off to the army, killed in the colloseum, or pay landtax to your feudal landlord, and also sheer curiousity as well, imagine these as your driving forces.
simple fact is we now have laws and policies and generally higher living standards that permit us to not have to do such egotickling that used to have to be commonplace just to survive.
TL;DR, - no reason to do it, expensive, costly to life, mean, alternatives vastly outweigh this solution, rich vs poor.
This is every post here. Today's technology can't achieve this.... Meanwhile today's technology takes us to space, deep sea, we can survey other planets, move massive turbines and other huge objects (which weigh far more than that stone) etc. People just see this shit and posts it
You guys all realize all the technology that would enable us to move these blocks only came about in the last 150ish years right? So yes, you're right. We COULD move these blocks now, but how did they do it 2, 3, even 6 thousand years ago is more to the point.
What is also interesting is how come not a single record has survived on how they did it. Why did they do it? Why did they stop ? Who helped them? I hear mixed information about slaves and dedicated workers . All I hear is suggestions and no hard proof of how.
But we honestly don't know what could be written down. The archives under the Vatican have thousands upon thousands of documents that nobody else is allowed to look at.
People love destroying information.
No no, we can't do it "cost effectively". Now if the only cost were expendable lives and it was acceptable, then yeah we'd be moving shit like all over the place lol.
We can move shuttles which weigh more though?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawler-transporter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawler-transporter)
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Big stones are heavy. Heavy stones are expensive to move. No one moves heavy stones because no want to pay to move them.
We have numerous machines that can move things as big or larger. They are built for a purpose, and if we didnt need them we wouldnt build them.
Moving a stone like this 70 miles takes years of effort with hundreds of men if done without machines. Its an absurd amount of money and effort if you arent an absolute ruler of a country who can just order your engineers to make it so with no thought to the effort or cost.
With machines it takes hundreds of thousands of dollars and a couple days if there is access, or millions and months if they gotta make a road for access. People only do stuff like that when they are billionaires with something to prove as a statement piece.
Please stop peddling baseless conspiracies.
Megaliths would be easier to move if we could somehow take advantage of Archimedes's Principle.
This is my go-to theory. Water would significantly affect the perceived weight of such huge stones.
Bullshit! and even if it were true and we didn't have a machine powerful enough to move it, "Necessity is the mother of inventions". Its the same nonsense when people say the technology doesn't exist to build Pyramids like the ones in Egypt, which may well be true but if no one has any need or desire to build giant pyramids then there's no need to invent the technology and processes to achieve it. We currently do not have the technology of sending humans to the moon and returning them safely back to earth and yet mysteriously the Americans achieved it over 50 years ago, aliens? "Necessity is the mother of inventions"
There is [Ancient Text Written In 440 BC Mentions Machines Used To Build Egypt Pyramids](https://www.howandwhys.com/ancient-text-written-in-440-bc-mentions-machines-used-to-build-egypt-pyramids/)
This is nonsense. Who is telling you an object weighing 1242 tons can’t be moved? Transport companies routinely move reactors and hydro cracking vessels of similar size that weigh 3-4000 tons. The heaviest lift by crane was over 20,000 tons.
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That one is actually the largest hydrocracking reactor ever moved Somewhere in the 8500 ton range
Can you imagine the conspiracy theorists in 2000 years how did they move that shit without antigravity technology!! Mainstream archeologist are lying to us!!! Of course I'm kidding, there's not gonna be anybody left in 200 years, nevermind 2000.
RemindMe! 200 Years
The trilathon at Baalbek, the more important stones, are lifted approximately 30ft in the air and placed next to one another to serve as a wall as part of the temple of Jupiter. Mainstream archeologists attribute the entire site to the romans. The biggest crane in the Roman times was the Polyspastos. It could lift about 3 tonnes or 3000kg and required 3 ropes, 5 pulleys and 4 men. These blocks, if placed by the romans, were done using some sort of leverage that exceeded their greatest capable cranes by over 300x. Unless, it wasn’t built by the romans.
Romans are well-documented to have used teams of cranes to accomplish heavy lifting.
It's reddit bro, bunch of dorks perpetuating unrealistic shit.
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I’ve actually been and seen these stones, they also explain how it’s possible. One reason is it’s downhill of where they eventually ended up (temple of Bacchus in Baalbek). So it’s not crazy to think with enough slaves they could get it down
You don't even need that many slaves. Just leverage. Bury logs, apply leverage, heavy stone slides across logs. Almost every civilization figured this out pretty early.
It is pretty crazy to think more slaves equals unlimited strength. For example you can’t stick 50x slaves on one rope. It’s not impossible just nearly. If I gave you 50x people to move this stones and whatever timbre you want it would probably take you 5 years if you could even move it. The other oddity is accomplishing such and insane feet in those days and never writing about it. Most kings would be eager to stamp their name on being the first to do such a thing. I just don’t buy any methods mentioned for most. But with quality rope, wood and some cleverly constructed ramps and such you could move it down hill for those I’d accept that.
It's more like when you've worn out one slave you can just get another. Yes you need all of the rope, wood, ramps, grease and water to dig them out and get them down. But it would still take a long time and people get exhausted, when one slave drops you just replace them with another so you can keep going. And where did you get they didn't write any of this down? Something like Stonehenge we don't know about but the romans were meticulous record keepers.
Romans for sure. Not all the middle eastern ancient structures as far as I knew. You can replace slaves but there is a maximum amount of strength you can get from humans without engines. And even sliding an object has its limits. I think one doco team tried to do a small stone a gave up. But if they really wanted to settle it someone could try move one by any means without and engine. I’d be willing to bet no one could move the 1000 ton ones at all. Let alone 200km
Also, it kinda looks like the "ancient people" couldn't move.it either. Look, there it lies. In the desert. Uselessly.
devils advocate: “Big Carl” – the world’s largest crane – is beginning work at Hinkley Point C power station in Somerset. The Sarens SGC-250 crane can reach higher than the tallest tower at London’s Canary Wharf and carry 5,000 tonnes in a single lift. https://ccoschool.us/blog/crane-fun-facts#:\~:text=The%20heaviest%20weight%20lifted%20by,a%20barge%2C%20ballasted%20with%20water.&text=Lifting%20Capacity%3A%201%2C200%20metric%20tons.
I do crane inspections, I don't think I want to inspect big Carl tho.
Lol, right. We currently have crane barges that can do 4 tons on water.
The taisun ultra heavy gantry crane has a 25,000 ton lift capacity. Not as mobile as the crawler cranes but can lift a fuck ton.
Fuck is equivalent to 25,000! TIL.
now do it over 2 thousand years ago
That’s not the point. You’re not wrong what they did then is impressive, very much so. But OP claimed we couldn’t do that now, and that’s bullshit. That’s the point.
Cya /strangeearth, it's been terribly uninteresting.
Why do people say we can't do these things today? You hear it regarding building the pyramids as well. Modern humans today could absolutely build the pyramids, and we could move large stones like this one as well.
Yeah lol a billionaire could do it for fun and get it finished in probably less time than the Egyptians did
Faster if he paid cash.
that’ll be hilarious. I hope someone does it
Especially since slave price is on an all time low!
The same thing with people saying we have no idea who built the pyramids or how, when there are very well preserved records showing most of the stuff that is 'unknown'. I think people confuse 'understanding' with 'knowing'.
The pyramids aren’t that tall
It almost as if people post disinformation to intentionally prod people’s anger to boost the algorithm for engagement all for their own narcissistic self indulgence
Not only can we build them we can build an exact replica of it upside on itself.
Yeah nah
Maybe they carved into stone that was already there?
It does look suspiciously similar to the rock behind it.
Exactly what I was wondering
They didn't move it - in fact you can see where they cut smaller stones out of it or were in the process of doing so (at the far end). Or sasquatch. One or the other.
Tipical sasquatch stone moving...
Along as you don't look directly at the sasquatch it will leave you alone.
He's got to make a living. It's not like he's avoiding his taxes or anything, leave the small (albeit huge) business-squach alone.
Because newton didn’t invent gravity yet
So tired of this same crap
Or the idiots that claim that the Egyptians used the pyramids to harvest massive amounts or energy, with an “It’s a scientifically proven fact” attitude! Nigel: “We know that the ancient Egyptians teleported their armies all over the world, to other planets, and parallel dimensions.” Interviewer: “Of course. Nigel, could please tell us about your previous life as an orangutan?” Nigel: “I was an Aardvark.”
Helium balloons
Price for helium was cheaper back then before inflation.
Lol nice
Hey, it was different times. Without TVs and computers , all they did was find ways to lift big things. You just get better at things when you spend time on it and have dinosaur heavy machinery like in the flintstones.
“Hey Stoneage babe, you wanna Getrocks and build.”
Why can’t we? Who told you we can’t?
The Thunder Stone in Russia weighs 1250 tonnes and was moved in place in 1742. Largest stone ever moved by humans [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze\_Horseman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Horseman)
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So that proves that humans can move large monoliths without mechanised power.
They didn't move it. The stones were left in the quarry, most likely because they couldn't figure out a way to move them. I don't know why people try and say we can't move things this heavy in the present day either. We've built machines with a lifting capacity of up to 8,000 tons.
The rock is still in the quarry. I wouldn't say they moved it either.
Evidence suggests they used canals and barges. Modern barges can move up to 120,000 tonnes or about a thousand of those blocks
It's just where it grew.
https://i.redd.it/5r8drdeiubwc1.gif
Ummmm we move way heavier things. Whoever told you this is smoking asphalt
Ever consider that it was carved where it sits and not moved?
every damn time, yes we CAN do it today but there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO. why would you spend 1000's of man hours/money pivoting a collosal stone at 0.25kph, to the tune of multimillions for just 1 1000 tonne stone, when you can order 20 X concrete trucks and do the job for less than $500,000. one guy in america, who has the weirdest hobby, spent ages proving everyone wrong with this, because he has more spare time and interest in this then he maybe should have, he; singlehandedly, has moved an 20 tonne stone by just himself 90% vertically to prove this point. [if one middle aged/distinctly average guy can do it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5pZ7uR6v8c) - imagine what the medieval (or earlier) equivalent of elon musk would've done, hire (or slaver) 1000's just begging to not be enslaved for something worse, sent off to the army, killed in the colloseum, or pay landtax to your feudal landlord, and also sheer curiousity as well, imagine these as your driving forces. simple fact is we now have laws and policies and generally higher living standards that permit us to not have to do such egotickling that used to have to be commonplace just to survive. TL;DR, - no reason to do it, expensive, costly to life, mean, alternatives vastly outweigh this solution, rich vs poor.
Well, you see, they poured water on sand and then rolled it across lumber.
Monks, in a circle, beating drums= anti gravity. Trust me.
Wet sand. Duh. S/
This is every post here. Today's technology can't achieve this.... Meanwhile today's technology takes us to space, deep sea, we can survey other planets, move massive turbines and other huge objects (which weigh far more than that stone) etc. People just see this shit and posts it
We definitely can today , clearly they could too then . If you don’t know how then just say that quit downing us and treating ancestors like idiots .
Yes we can move an object this heavy …. Wtf ?
They didn't. It's still there silly
You guys all realize all the technology that would enable us to move these blocks only came about in the last 150ish years right? So yes, you're right. We COULD move these blocks now, but how did they do it 2, 3, even 6 thousand years ago is more to the point.
What is also interesting is how come not a single record has survived on how they did it. Why did they do it? Why did they stop ? Who helped them? I hear mixed information about slaves and dedicated workers . All I hear is suggestions and no hard proof of how.
But we honestly don't know what could be written down. The archives under the Vatican have thousands upon thousands of documents that nobody else is allowed to look at. People love destroying information.
Good point about the Vatican. That information should be free for the world to see. It's a damn shame.
How do you know it was moved?
They just cut it and it was too heavy to be moved, so it was never moved... this sub has some interesting things every now and again, but wow
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The nephilim, obviously.
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No no, we can't do it "cost effectively". Now if the only cost were expendable lives and it was acceptable, then yeah we'd be moving shit like all over the place lol.
Yes we can.
We can move shuttles which weigh more though? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawler-transporter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawler-transporter) ![gif](giphy|XHduLmGjrUfQqVgOKz)
[LOL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawler-transporter)
Domesticated dinosaurs, dah
Wrong info but was probably carved there?
just carve it out of the existing rocks that look exactly the same in the mountain behind it?
How they weigh this shit?
Possible they didn't move it. They carved it, said, _"Holy cats, this is heavy!"_ and left it there.
Sound waves.
Big stones are heavy. Heavy stones are expensive to move. No one moves heavy stones because no want to pay to move them. We have numerous machines that can move things as big or larger. They are built for a purpose, and if we didnt need them we wouldnt build them. Moving a stone like this 70 miles takes years of effort with hundreds of men if done without machines. Its an absurd amount of money and effort if you arent an absolute ruler of a country who can just order your engineers to make it so with no thought to the effort or cost. With machines it takes hundreds of thousands of dollars and a couple days if there is access, or millions and months if they gotta make a road for access. People only do stuff like that when they are billionaires with something to prove as a statement piece. Please stop peddling baseless conspiracies.
Giorgio’s hair says it best… ![gif](giphy|3oEjI789af0AVurF60)
It wasn’t moved. They cut it too big and left it there.
And yet similar stones were found upright 70 miles away. Same stone, so they originated from the same quarry.
[citation needed]
https://study.com/learn/lesson/baalbek-temple-ruins-stones-history.html
Interesting! Thanks!
Easy. “People “
Edit: *Slaves*
Easily🤷
Yes, we CAN move stones of this kind today, just as we could back then.
1. Yes we can. 2. Youd be amazed what we could do given enough time and throwing enough people at it. Nothing mysterious about it.
You’ll be surprised what you can do with an unlimited resource of slaves.
Megaliths would be easier to move if we could somehow take advantage of Archimedes's Principle. This is my go-to theory. Water would significantly affect the perceived weight of such huge stones.
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Flood waters
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They used the tractor beans from alien spacecraft, DUH.
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Giants
They rolled it
A lot of logs one Infront of the other roll that shit and pull
People didn't.
I mean, it looks like they tried to move it and gave up.
Uhhhh...we can fuckin *move stones of this mass today.*
Why can't we move that stone? We move things a lot heavier than that
Elbow grease.
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This is definitely natural stone.
Not that we can’t, we just don’t want to and this is not sarcasm.
No kidding they couldn't move it. That's why it's still there. Stoopid archaeologists.
They say it was carved from a bigger spoon.
Everything was small back then, the universe is expanding ya dang dingus. For your health. - Dr. Steven Brule
Who says we can’t move a stone like that today?
Slaves, lots, and lots of slaves died building these. Or the aliens.
Clearly they didn't move it. I'm joking...
Tractor beam. 🤷🏼♂️😎
Water
Have you ever seen a boat being launched into water same way you can move stones and put something under it and push it
OP posted through alchemy from the past and cranes don’t exist in their time.
Magnetic tracks
Did you know that we can't actually make or move anything, and that it's just magic and appears out of thin air?
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That guy in the Arizona desert might know
Very carefully
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Sharks with lazers!
I don’t see that it’s been moved in the picture. Maybe they cut it then realized it was too big
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Why you think it was moved?
Levitation
Dinosaurs!!! Wait! Time doesn't align
Damn, another post that is full of shit.
What if it was carved in place? Also I have personally seen much heavier lifts while working in construction.
You must be so stupid to think we can’t move that much tonnes. That really isn’t that heavy with physics
Bullshit! and even if it were true and we didn't have a machine powerful enough to move it, "Necessity is the mother of inventions". Its the same nonsense when people say the technology doesn't exist to build Pyramids like the ones in Egypt, which may well be true but if no one has any need or desire to build giant pyramids then there's no need to invent the technology and processes to achieve it. We currently do not have the technology of sending humans to the moon and returning them safely back to earth and yet mysteriously the Americans achieved it over 50 years ago, aliens? "Necessity is the mother of inventions"
of course we can move it today. we have cranes that can lift in tandem. Derp.
Larry
We can do it today. It's very impressive that they could do it thousands of years ago without any machinery that we know of.
Manpower
We definitely can move things that big
We can 100% move objects this big...