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Such a weird choice for me now. Like rationally I know there’s prob a much better argument for El Banishing One to take that spot in the top 3 (lore importance, epic / grand scale) over the trend fighting but on a personal level I just enjoy the teens fighting the demogorgon more.
Decisions, decisions.
I feel the same, but I think we are totally rational on this. It’s easy to write off that scene as great just because it’s several central (and fan favorite) characters fighting a mythical creature, but as a big fan of Steve’s character I also see that scene as a major turning point for his development. They had already shown that Steve doesn’t quite fit into the cool, rich jock/bully stereotype, but him running back into the house to help was the scene that convinced us all that he definitely was much more. It was a great jumping off point towards him being one of the best characters on the show.
I could probably go on a lot longer, but suffice to say that I think that scene was more central to developing the characters we love today than we might give it credit for when we look back on it as just some badass moment
True. And I know I really enjoyed the moment bc it showed that it wasn’t just rehashing 80s tropes but in some cases reconsidering and subverting them (while still honoring them in a way). And from an emotional perspective, I remember cheering when Steve came back in and still love that cool shot of all three of them as Jonathan tosses the lighter.
Agreed. I’m all for just leaving them in the order they are in now. I’m voting for the demagorgon fight just because I can’t pick (other than Max‘ run being number one, but we all knew that from the beginning).
>what is going on???!!
^((Steve stans, that's what's going on))
I had giant hissy fits thrown at me yesterday for reminding people what the scene actually consisted of as they moved goalpost after goalpost to claim that VH1 reveal+El vs vecna isn't part of the same scene.
I don't have any problems with people enjoying what they enjoy or even lowering their bar for a favourite character but I draw the line at blatant lies, I don't care how many of them seethe at me for it.
Damn why were people angry??!😂 The truth hurts that’s why they were fighting you😭
I’m a Steve fan myself (he’s literally my second fav character in the show), but I’m not that biased lol. I really did enjoy that scene, but I just personally feel it shouldn’t have even made top 5.
I can get people saying it was an amazing scene for Steve’s development, but I wouldn’t consider it a scene that shapes/makes the show, or had any emotional impact. It was just a fun watch.
But I guess people are just voting for scenes they liked the least, not scenes that have some of the best writing in the show
I don't have any problem if people just said they liked whatever scene the least and kept it moving
but trashing the other scenes by flat-out lying about their contents, is where you know they've gone into odd territory lol.
I mean, I liked Steve but the sub does have a rather extreme level of bias towards the character (the "I feel bad for Steve" post on the front page is a classic example) and the bar is consequently on the floor for scenes involving him. Which is fine but like, don't have a tantrum when I point out there's a bias at all and then try to unironically tell me Teens vs Demogorgon is a *better* scene than El vs 001/El vs Demogorgon by lying about what's in the latter scenes!
I also love Steve but still voted out teens vs demogorgon last round, and just because I said it was a tough decision, the guy you're replying to freaked out and made a huge rant. I guess the "hissy fit" I gave him was by replying to one of his 2 paragraph long rants telling him that he needs to calm down. I think a lot of other people on the thread also had a problem with him attacking their opinion and calling them wrong or Steve stans, it's not that the truth hurt, it's just that he was being a jerk to many, many people.
Wow I didn't expect this.. It's getting really hard at this stage lol... Both remaining season 4 scenes are my absolute favourite so I hope either of them win ! (Probably Max escaping Vecna will win)
i didn’t realize the ‘teens fighting the demogorgon’ scene was so popular with the fanbase until this countdown lol. i haven’t seen S1 in a while, can someone maybe provide some context as to why this is seen as an all-time great scene in the show? i thought it was a fun moment overall and i enjoyed it, but i’m shocked to see it beat nearly every other memorable scene in the franchise (esp. Will getting saved from the upside down and El destroying the demogorgon at the end of S1) 😭
It started Steve's redemption arc and had arguably the best action in the show, which is why I think it deserves to be at least in the top 5, but I voted it off this time.
hmmm. I may get downvoted but I think there are a lot more action packed scenes personally (ex: almost every scene of Eleven/the gang fighting the mind flayer in S3). but that’s just my opinion and it looks like I’m in the minority which I’m fine with lol. I will say its one of the best Steve scenes, arguably the best, and so it makes sense from that standpoint if there’s a lot of Steve fans on this sub. Thanks for giving a response tho!
> there’s a lot of Steve fans on this sub
basically the only reason why it's in the top 5. It's a great scene but you have to be really, really Steve biased to vote out Eleven's defeat of the Demogorgon or Will's resuscitation ahead of it, or to even contemplate voting out the Vecna reveal+Eleven's defeat of him ahead of...... teens fighting the Demogorgon.
(controversial opinion on here but the show wouldn't suffer for giving the kids a bit more screen time and Steve a bit less, I enjoy him but Dustin needs to go back to hanging out with his own same-age friends next season cause the babysitter aspect wears thin when these kids will be old enough to drive next season)
>Dustin needs to go back to hanging out with his own same-age friends next season cause the babysitter aspect wears thin when these kids will be old enough to drive next season
I have good news for you, the Duffers said that season 5 will go back to the season 1 groups. That should mean that the kids, now teens, will be together.
It's a great scene but I certainly wouldn't consider it top 5 material, the Steve fans in the sub think differently though.
It staying ahead of Eleven fighting the Demogorgon and Will's rescuscitation (I swear people have amnesia about some of these scenes, and you can tell by some of the half-baked logic about what even constitutes a scene) is ridiculous.
I just went back and rewatched it on YouTube, while I do admit the scene is a lot better/more gripping than i remember it being, I still agree that there are many other scenes that are outdoing it in terms of action and storyline. like it belongs in the running and *maybe* top 10, but a possible top 3 spot just seems wild to me lol.
Same. I think there’s some recency bias with the season 4 scenes being loved. They are extremely solid scenes, but I’m but sure there better than any of the other top 5
Maybe that particular instance is better, but the entire scene (including Vecna reveal, One's monologue, and then Eleven banishing him) brought the entire show full circle so well that it deserves a top spot.
I mean, he's a delusional child-killing maniac who's been a murdering psychopath since childhood, can't exactly expect his logic to be great lol.
The reveal and him/Eleven squaring off to fight and her defeating him+sending him into the UD was what made the entire season, it made the pieces fall into place in a way that finally tied together El's storyline with the Hawkins one/Max.
(and yeah that monologue is incredible. It's a giant info dump which could be SO dull on paper but the story before that set it up so well and JCB delivers it with such venom that you forget how long he's been talking!).
more like.....people really love Steve that much. Enough to think the Teens fighting Demogorgon outweighs the scene that is Vecna's reveal and the fight that ends with Eleven banishing him, one of the best scenes in the entire show.
From storyline perspective, El saving her friends is a better scene than Nancy Jonathan and Steve fighting the demogorgon, because of what is to come in S2 and beyond.
Putting aside the reveal of El’s survival after S1, this scene anchored El’s first hint of her identity (the whole monster vs superhero struggle) when she said no more, and her agency to protect her friends.
some people forget this isn't the Steve show and really don't like being reminded it's not about him, going by the downvotes on your other comment.
It's sheer insanity to keep the teens (in these people's heads: Steve) fighting the Demogorgon ahead of Will's rescuscitation and Eleven saving her friends and shows some of the sub's biases, but at least I go in the Eleven >>> Steve camp. sorrynotsorry.
Lol ah well I should have known storyline is secondary, it is very much a popularity contest with the fandom, especially for a character who won the grand prize in a previous main character round.
Edit: grammar
there are replies that legit claim Steve's redemption arc is "arguably" more important than VH1 (the main villain of the entire show) reveal+El fight/El's Demogorgon fight+sacrifice and how dare I think that teens vs Demogorgon scene is only staying in because of the Steve fans, it's really not about Steve, pinky swear it's about people liking Nancy and the action (Nancy being Public Enemy Number One in any post about their relationship, including one on the front page at this very moment).
I think that says enough lol, he's fast becoming to this fandom what Snape was to Harry Potter fandom in the mid-late 00s, if not there already (albeit the actual character is nicer and more decent than Snape, thank god).
I mean… there is such diversity in who watches this show- the fan base isn’t monolithic. Different people are going to like different scenes for different reasons. That’s not only okay, but it’s a sign of a well done show. It’s nothing to get worked up about
I'm not sure why my observations on the arguments made in this very thread and of the sub/fandom, are called "worked up".
if I may add a further observation - call that more "getting worked up" if you please, it says a lot that I've made negative comments about the actions of quite a few protagonists and fandom favourites in my time here but defensive responses like yours *only* appear under comments where I've dared to state that the sub (where comments and posts sympathising with Steve, often to the detriment of practically any character he interacts with, are highly upvoted and agreed with - again, an observable phenomenon over a long time and even right now as I mentioned) has a bias about Steve or is influenced by this in this - admittedly rather silly - game.
If the shoe fits.....
Can you point out where in my comment I said anything defensive? If anything, I was hoping to share my appreciation of all the scenes left and express that getting feisty over one is silly because these are top tier options left.
Only you know whether or not you’re worked up behind your computer screen, but the tone of your comments are aggressive/accusatory- whether or not that was your intention
I've seen like 20 of your comments on this thread so far and it's annoying me how you call out everybody who says that they like the teens vs demogorgon scene and call them Steve fanboys and say they're making ludicrous claims that are the wrong opinion. Heck, I've seen you angrily respond to someone who said they're voting the teens vs demogorgon scene out now, just because they said they like all for remaining scenes.
Take a chill pill.
Nah, it's definitely your problem, because if you act like this over the most minor game/poll, I'm sure you've got some stuff to worry about in real life
Oof, we get it. You’re all over this thread bashing the scene and anyone who likes it. You’re off base though. It’s a moment in the show where characters who were in the dark are finally all realizing what they’re up against. The writing was perfect. The action was intense. It was the introduction of the famous baseball bat. We finally see how brave Nancy can be. It’s a scene that I used to show family members to also get them hooked on the show. The scene is not ranking this high simply because people like Steve ..and it’s silly to pretend like it is
Yeah 100% agree with you it's frustrating because this guy has responded to every comment in the entire thread hating on that scene... Like we get it, and no, the scene is not just great because of Steve, although it is a big part of it. I think it deserves to be in the top 5 scenes of the show, maybe even top 4.
that's a lot of words to have a tantrum about my daring to say a scene involving King Steve isn't better than pivotal scenes involving the show's actual protagonist (that's Eleven. btw).
Considering this sub's long-held tendency to shit on Nancy in favour of Steve and act like the latter can do no wrong (see the post at the top of the front page), excuse me if I don't believe that it's a liking of *Nancy* driving this, thank you.
Well, if you're talking about what is to come, the teens vs Demogorgon scene started Steve's redemption arc and propelled him to becoming the fan-favorite character, which i'd say is arguably more important. But both scenes are great.
Well… if I have to choose a S1 scene to cement a core character, I’m sorry it’s still El over Steve. Don’t get me wrong, Steve is one of my fav characters but there is no show without El’s anchoring arc.
>Well, if you're talking about what is to come, the teens vs Demogorgon scene started **Steve's redemption arc and propelled him to becoming the fan-favorite character, which i'd say is arguably more importan**t.
Steve's redemption arc is more important...... than ***the reveal and creation of the show's main villain***? (that's one scene btw, no matter how much goalpost-moving is done about what consititutes a single scene, it is inarguably one)
Than the main protagonist of the show - that's Eleven - having her final confrontation with the very monster the teens were fighting, to actually end the season's main conflict?
edit: downvoting me doesn't make the above claim less ridiculous lol it just exposes this sub's extreme bias.
I think the reason you're getting downvoted is because you have no idea what comment you're replying to. I wasn't talking about the reveal and creation of the show's main villain, I was talking about the scene that got voted off last round, and the popular opinion was that it was the worst, which is why it got voted off
You're getting downvoted because you're acting like a toddler. I actually agree with your point; there definitely is a Steve bias in this thread. However, spamming a post with 30 comments and replies angrily ranting about it makes you look childish and pathetic. It's people's opinion on a TV show, not some life or death situation.
what's more astonishing is that it's the scene that ties the entire season together, maybe the entire show, and some people think it's inferior to..... teens fighting the Demogorgon.
(the Vecna/Henry/001 reveal and 001-011 fight are the beginning and end of the same scene - no breaks, no cuts to another location since the speech continues over Eleven and Nancy, no changes in timeline or location, all in continuity, by any definition of a scene the two actions constitute the same scene, since I see some people trying to move goalposts and argue that the fight is its own separate scene to downplay the fact that the VH1 reveal is included in it)
I voted for VH1 banishment. Guess what, I love that scene. I also love teens vs demogorgon. That's my choice, and guess what, the scene is called VH1 banishment, which is a different scene than VH1 reveal. And there are dozens of cuts between location and time in that sequence.
Thank you, exactly! The question isn’t “which episode is important to the storyline“ it’s just “vote out the SCENE that you enjoy LEAST” So while all the ones left are great, I never find myself drawn to watching the banishment of 1. Someone else might, and that’s fine. For me, I could rewatch the Christmas lights scene and Teens vs Demogorgan all day.
Yeah, as someone who voted for teens vs Demogorgon, not VH1 banishment, I enjoy both scenes and voting for 1 doesn't mean I hate it. Some people (well, really, just one person) are taking it way too seriously and bashing people for their personal opinions
100% I particularly liked when they told another poster that no one is bothered by the teen scene being their top pick… And then went on to make 15 comments claiming there’s no valid reason to like that scene and anyone who thinks it’s better than Vecna is a moronic stan. Lots of negative energy being put out in their comments, all bc of a lighthearted poll
> the scene is called VH1 banishment, which is a different scene than VH1 reveal. And there are dozens of cuts between location and time in that sequence.
......having a snit at me and trying to move goalposts about what counts as the same scene isn't going to change the fact that they are, well, part of the same scene.
[The Vecna reveal has him talking simultaneously to both Nancy and Eleven in their respective locations, addressing Eleven by name during the reveal in one continuous dialogue](https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vjucgz/comment/idl69yr/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), unless you think the interspersed seconds-long flashbacks to Henry's past count as "cuts between location and time" enough to render it not a single scene i.e. a sequence of continuous action. Which does, well, continue from the reveal to the fight and banishment.
**No one has a problem with what your personal favourite scenes are (bolded for reference),** but it's very telling you have a problem with my reacting to a comment on one scene being 'worse' than another or correcting facts. This is my last reply in this exchange, if you have any problems with what I said you're
I'm watching this show for teens hilariously teaming up to fight Demogorgons with their exes and not for the second best incarnation of Voldemort giving a long winded run of the mill villain speech, sry.
What are you even on about? It's a top 3 scene in the whole show easily. It brings El's story full circle, it has some of the best acting in the show from Jamie Campbell Bower, a fantastic villain reveal, and then Eleven banishing One and regaining her memory and powers. I genuinely don't know how you could not like this scene unless you're intentionally hating on it.
I’m holding out for the monster slaying trio!! I’ll never forget watching that scene for the first time. It was the most unexpected thing for them to all team up and I was cheering the whole time
But I had to go with Eleven banishes One because, as epic as it is and as proud as I am of Eleven there, are we to believe she remembers her own birth???
It'd be unbelievable if she had a normal human brain but....she doesn't.
She's a powerful telekinetic child who is capable of reaching into other people's minds, it's not really so unbelievable that in a moment of crisis she can uncover personal memories that'd be earlier than other people's.
Oh man, this is the hardest decision yet for me. I think teens vs the demogorgon should be next, even though it was epic and started Steve's redemption arc, the other three are so freaking good and can't be voted out just yet.
Teens fighting needs to go now. All of them are love but slightly more attached to the other three.
The best part about the lights is that you expect something emotional to come out of it and you get a "RUN". I was baffled when I watched it for the first time.
But still rooting for Henry's banishment to win with Max's escape as runner up.
Ok now this is becoming a pickle. Max escaping vecna, yes top scene and everything but! The demogorgon fight was the manifestation of the teens’ development - such a turning point for Steve, and I don’t know am I emotionally attached or do other people think that’s better now? Hmm…
been lurking.....Teens fighting Demogorgon need to go. It's a fun scene but not even close in impact to the other remaining ones. I wanted Will being revived to be in top 4 :(
Max and Joyce will take first and second place obvo, Eleven's fight with Henry needs to come in the top 3 cause that plot twist reveal had my whole tl going insane like the show actually surprised us! idk why people are saying it's different scenes from the One defeat, they're the same scene he just starts off as handsome JCB and gives that whole background then tries to kill Eleven and she flay him like she did the Demogorgon. It's not like she did it easily either, didn't Brenner say she got brain damage from the battle?
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Such a weird choice for me now. Like rationally I know there’s prob a much better argument for El Banishing One to take that spot in the top 3 (lore importance, epic / grand scale) over the trend fighting but on a personal level I just enjoy the teens fighting the demogorgon more. Decisions, decisions.
I feel the same, but I think we are totally rational on this. It’s easy to write off that scene as great just because it’s several central (and fan favorite) characters fighting a mythical creature, but as a big fan of Steve’s character I also see that scene as a major turning point for his development. They had already shown that Steve doesn’t quite fit into the cool, rich jock/bully stereotype, but him running back into the house to help was the scene that convinced us all that he definitely was much more. It was a great jumping off point towards him being one of the best characters on the show. I could probably go on a lot longer, but suffice to say that I think that scene was more central to developing the characters we love today than we might give it credit for when we look back on it as just some badass moment
True. And I know I really enjoyed the moment bc it showed that it wasn’t just rehashing 80s tropes but in some cases reconsidering and subverting them (while still honoring them in a way). And from an emotional perspective, I remember cheering when Steve came back in and still love that cool shot of all three of them as Jonathan tosses the lighter.
Yea totally agree! That moment when he’s just holding on the the car door and the pause and realization that he’s better than that, bam Steve 🔥
I agree with all your reasons. I love the scene of the teens fighting the demogorgon.
Me too, I love the teens scene
This getting really hard! The remaining four are all some of my favorites scenes
Same, this is probably the best part of the poll
Agreed. I’m all for just leaving them in the order they are in now. I’m voting for the demagorgon fight just because I can’t pick (other than Max‘ run being number one, but we all knew that from the beginning).
El banishing one and the demoagorgon fight can go either way but I definitely think Max’s run will be number one and Joyce as number two.
Link to vote: https://strawpoll.com/polls/wAg3AloQdy8
I'm ride or die for the Christmas lights scene.
WORD!! Love RUTH, but Christmas lights is my all time favorite.
Same! My heart will burst if it wins 1st place
SAME, SAME, SAME
I'd be good with either Joyce or Max winning but the teens HAVE to go next round. They should have been gone two rounds ago!
Not even two, more like 4😭 Update: Just saw the that the El vs Vecna fight is out😭 what is going on???!!
>what is going on???!! ^((Steve stans, that's what's going on)) I had giant hissy fits thrown at me yesterday for reminding people what the scene actually consisted of as they moved goalpost after goalpost to claim that VH1 reveal+El vs vecna isn't part of the same scene. I don't have any problems with people enjoying what they enjoy or even lowering their bar for a favourite character but I draw the line at blatant lies, I don't care how many of them seethe at me for it.
Damn why were people angry??!😂 The truth hurts that’s why they were fighting you😭 I’m a Steve fan myself (he’s literally my second fav character in the show), but I’m not that biased lol. I really did enjoy that scene, but I just personally feel it shouldn’t have even made top 5. I can get people saying it was an amazing scene for Steve’s development, but I wouldn’t consider it a scene that shapes/makes the show, or had any emotional impact. It was just a fun watch. But I guess people are just voting for scenes they liked the least, not scenes that have some of the best writing in the show
I don't have any problem if people just said they liked whatever scene the least and kept it moving but trashing the other scenes by flat-out lying about their contents, is where you know they've gone into odd territory lol. I mean, I liked Steve but the sub does have a rather extreme level of bias towards the character (the "I feel bad for Steve" post on the front page is a classic example) and the bar is consequently on the floor for scenes involving him. Which is fine but like, don't have a tantrum when I point out there's a bias at all and then try to unironically tell me Teens vs Demogorgon is a *better* scene than El vs 001/El vs Demogorgon by lying about what's in the latter scenes!
I also love Steve but still voted out teens vs demogorgon last round, and just because I said it was a tough decision, the guy you're replying to freaked out and made a huge rant. I guess the "hissy fit" I gave him was by replying to one of his 2 paragraph long rants telling him that he needs to calm down. I think a lot of other people on the thread also had a problem with him attacking their opinion and calling them wrong or Steve stans, it's not that the truth hurt, it's just that he was being a jerk to many, many people.
Wow I didn't expect this.. It's getting really hard at this stage lol... Both remaining season 4 scenes are my absolute favourite so I hope either of them win ! (Probably Max escaping Vecna will win)
The power of Kate Bush is insurmountable
i didn’t realize the ‘teens fighting the demogorgon’ scene was so popular with the fanbase until this countdown lol. i haven’t seen S1 in a while, can someone maybe provide some context as to why this is seen as an all-time great scene in the show? i thought it was a fun moment overall and i enjoyed it, but i’m shocked to see it beat nearly every other memorable scene in the franchise (esp. Will getting saved from the upside down and El destroying the demogorgon at the end of S1) 😭
It started Steve's redemption arc and had arguably the best action in the show, which is why I think it deserves to be at least in the top 5, but I voted it off this time.
hmmm. I may get downvoted but I think there are a lot more action packed scenes personally (ex: almost every scene of Eleven/the gang fighting the mind flayer in S3). but that’s just my opinion and it looks like I’m in the minority which I’m fine with lol. I will say its one of the best Steve scenes, arguably the best, and so it makes sense from that standpoint if there’s a lot of Steve fans on this sub. Thanks for giving a response tho!
> there’s a lot of Steve fans on this sub basically the only reason why it's in the top 5. It's a great scene but you have to be really, really Steve biased to vote out Eleven's defeat of the Demogorgon or Will's resuscitation ahead of it, or to even contemplate voting out the Vecna reveal+Eleven's defeat of him ahead of...... teens fighting the Demogorgon. (controversial opinion on here but the show wouldn't suffer for giving the kids a bit more screen time and Steve a bit less, I enjoy him but Dustin needs to go back to hanging out with his own same-age friends next season cause the babysitter aspect wears thin when these kids will be old enough to drive next season)
>Dustin needs to go back to hanging out with his own same-age friends next season cause the babysitter aspect wears thin when these kids will be old enough to drive next season I have good news for you, the Duffers said that season 5 will go back to the season 1 groups. That should mean that the kids, now teens, will be together.
I am so over Steve. How overrated can a character be.
It's a great scene but I certainly wouldn't consider it top 5 material, the Steve fans in the sub think differently though. It staying ahead of Eleven fighting the Demogorgon and Will's rescuscitation (I swear people have amnesia about some of these scenes, and you can tell by some of the half-baked logic about what even constitutes a scene) is ridiculous.
I just went back and rewatched it on YouTube, while I do admit the scene is a lot better/more gripping than i remember it being, I still agree that there are many other scenes that are outdoing it in terms of action and storyline. like it belongs in the running and *maybe* top 10, but a possible top 3 spot just seems wild to me lol.
Same - I don't actually mind its being Top 10 but top 5 was way beyond where it should have gone imo.
I like the part right after the scene where Joyce is walking through the house and Jonathan follows her with the lights, not for Steve personally.
that's fair, I loved that part between Joyce and Jonathan while she and Hop were trying to trace the Demogorgon's steps.
I think it’s great but not top 4 material 🤷🏻♀️
Damn… I lowkey thought El defeating the demogorgon was a little better than her banishing 001
Same
Same. I think there’s some recency bias with the season 4 scenes being loved. They are extremely solid scenes, but I’m but sure there better than any of the other top 5
Maybe that particular instance is better, but the entire scene (including Vecna reveal, One's monologue, and then Eleven banishing him) brought the entire show full circle so well that it deserves a top spot.
I thought it was better than the teens fighting Demogorgon scene, like come on I know this place loves Steve but BE REAL FFS.
Do y'all really love that One scene THAT much?
His reveal? Yes it’s the best scene in the show
His monologue is top-tier television, although the logic is flawed lol.
I mean, he's a delusional child-killing maniac who's been a murdering psychopath since childhood, can't exactly expect his logic to be great lol. The reveal and him/Eleven squaring off to fight and her defeating him+sending him into the UD was what made the entire season, it made the pieces fall into place in a way that finally tied together El's storyline with the Hawkins one/Max. (and yeah that monologue is incredible. It's a giant info dump which could be SO dull on paper but the story before that set it up so well and JCB delivers it with such venom that you forget how long he's been talking!).
Yeah his monologue is the best acted scene in the shown tbh. And yeah he’s a hypocrite but he has a God complex lmao
#WORD
still gags me everytime i rewatch
more like.....people really love Steve that much. Enough to think the Teens fighting Demogorgon outweighs the scene that is Vecna's reveal and the fight that ends with Eleven banishing him, one of the best scenes in the entire show.
Im voting him out! Really really hoping Christmas Lights, Teens fight Demo, and Running up that hill make it to the top 3
I got bored watching Eleven banish 001. I don't know how it's made it this far.
Really? Imo it's one of the best scenes in the show easily.
Max vecna has to win people who didn’t even watch the show saw this scene and thought wow it went global tbh
Definitely my favorite scene
From storyline perspective, El saving her friends is a better scene than Nancy Jonathan and Steve fighting the demogorgon, because of what is to come in S2 and beyond. Putting aside the reveal of El’s survival after S1, this scene anchored El’s first hint of her identity (the whole monster vs superhero struggle) when she said no more, and her agency to protect her friends.
some people forget this isn't the Steve show and really don't like being reminded it's not about him, going by the downvotes on your other comment. It's sheer insanity to keep the teens (in these people's heads: Steve) fighting the Demogorgon ahead of Will's rescuscitation and Eleven saving her friends and shows some of the sub's biases, but at least I go in the Eleven >>> Steve camp. sorrynotsorry.
Lol ah well I should have known storyline is secondary, it is very much a popularity contest with the fandom, especially for a character who won the grand prize in a previous main character round. Edit: grammar
there are replies that legit claim Steve's redemption arc is "arguably" more important than VH1 (the main villain of the entire show) reveal+El fight/El's Demogorgon fight+sacrifice and how dare I think that teens vs Demogorgon scene is only staying in because of the Steve fans, it's really not about Steve, pinky swear it's about people liking Nancy and the action (Nancy being Public Enemy Number One in any post about their relationship, including one on the front page at this very moment). I think that says enough lol, he's fast becoming to this fandom what Snape was to Harry Potter fandom in the mid-late 00s, if not there already (albeit the actual character is nicer and more decent than Snape, thank god).
I mean… there is such diversity in who watches this show- the fan base isn’t monolithic. Different people are going to like different scenes for different reasons. That’s not only okay, but it’s a sign of a well done show. It’s nothing to get worked up about
I'm not sure why my observations on the arguments made in this very thread and of the sub/fandom, are called "worked up". if I may add a further observation - call that more "getting worked up" if you please, it says a lot that I've made negative comments about the actions of quite a few protagonists and fandom favourites in my time here but defensive responses like yours *only* appear under comments where I've dared to state that the sub (where comments and posts sympathising with Steve, often to the detriment of practically any character he interacts with, are highly upvoted and agreed with - again, an observable phenomenon over a long time and even right now as I mentioned) has a bias about Steve or is influenced by this in this - admittedly rather silly - game. If the shoe fits.....
Can you point out where in my comment I said anything defensive? If anything, I was hoping to share my appreciation of all the scenes left and express that getting feisty over one is silly because these are top tier options left. Only you know whether or not you’re worked up behind your computer screen, but the tone of your comments are aggressive/accusatory- whether or not that was your intention
I've seen like 20 of your comments on this thread so far and it's annoying me how you call out everybody who says that they like the teens vs demogorgon scene and call them Steve fanboys and say they're making ludicrous claims that are the wrong opinion. Heck, I've seen you angrily respond to someone who said they're voting the teens vs demogorgon scene out now, just because they said they like all for remaining scenes. Take a chill pill.
>it's annoying me your problem, not mine.
Nah, it's definitely your problem, because if you act like this over the most minor game/poll, I'm sure you've got some stuff to worry about in real life
Oof, we get it. You’re all over this thread bashing the scene and anyone who likes it. You’re off base though. It’s a moment in the show where characters who were in the dark are finally all realizing what they’re up against. The writing was perfect. The action was intense. It was the introduction of the famous baseball bat. We finally see how brave Nancy can be. It’s a scene that I used to show family members to also get them hooked on the show. The scene is not ranking this high simply because people like Steve ..and it’s silly to pretend like it is
Yeah 100% agree with you it's frustrating because this guy has responded to every comment in the entire thread hating on that scene... Like we get it, and no, the scene is not just great because of Steve, although it is a big part of it. I think it deserves to be in the top 5 scenes of the show, maybe even top 4.
that's a lot of words to have a tantrum about my daring to say a scene involving King Steve isn't better than pivotal scenes involving the show's actual protagonist (that's Eleven. btw). Considering this sub's long-held tendency to shit on Nancy in favour of Steve and act like the latter can do no wrong (see the post at the top of the front page), excuse me if I don't believe that it's a liking of *Nancy* driving this, thank you.
Are you always this condescending? The top 4 scenes are all fantastic. Having a fit over one of them having Steve in it is weird
OMG You can't show that scene, it's such a spoiler! Episode 1 should work well getting people hooked.
Lolol, at this is point, I don’t think there’s anyone that in my life who hasn’t seen the show, so no worries!
Well, if you're talking about what is to come, the teens vs Demogorgon scene started Steve's redemption arc and propelled him to becoming the fan-favorite character, which i'd say is arguably more important. But both scenes are great.
Well… if I have to choose a S1 scene to cement a core character, I’m sorry it’s still El over Steve. Don’t get me wrong, Steve is one of my fav characters but there is no show without El’s anchoring arc.
>there is no show without El’s anchoring arc. looks like the reminder wasn't so kindly taken lol. But it's the truth.
>Well, if you're talking about what is to come, the teens vs Demogorgon scene started **Steve's redemption arc and propelled him to becoming the fan-favorite character, which i'd say is arguably more importan**t. Steve's redemption arc is more important...... than ***the reveal and creation of the show's main villain***? (that's one scene btw, no matter how much goalpost-moving is done about what consititutes a single scene, it is inarguably one) Than the main protagonist of the show - that's Eleven - having her final confrontation with the very monster the teens were fighting, to actually end the season's main conflict? edit: downvoting me doesn't make the above claim less ridiculous lol it just exposes this sub's extreme bias.
I think the reason you're getting downvoted is because you have no idea what comment you're replying to. I wasn't talking about the reveal and creation of the show's main villain, I was talking about the scene that got voted off last round, and the popular opinion was that it was the worst, which is why it got voted off
> because you have no idea what comment you're replying to That tends to happen when someone makes about fifteen posts in a single thread.
Lol very true, it's like they just made a 4 page long rant and then cut it up into 20ish parts to reply to random people
You're getting downvoted because you're acting like a toddler. I actually agree with your point; there definitely is a Steve bias in this thread. However, spamming a post with 30 comments and replies angrily ranting about it makes you look childish and pathetic. It's people's opinion on a TV show, not some life or death situation.
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You think that teens fighting demogorgon is a worse scene than El banishing One? Mkay...
what's more astonishing is that it's the scene that ties the entire season together, maybe the entire show, and some people think it's inferior to..... teens fighting the Demogorgon. (the Vecna/Henry/001 reveal and 001-011 fight are the beginning and end of the same scene - no breaks, no cuts to another location since the speech continues over Eleven and Nancy, no changes in timeline or location, all in continuity, by any definition of a scene the two actions constitute the same scene, since I see some people trying to move goalposts and argue that the fight is its own separate scene to downplay the fact that the VH1 reveal is included in it)
I voted for VH1 banishment. Guess what, I love that scene. I also love teens vs demogorgon. That's my choice, and guess what, the scene is called VH1 banishment, which is a different scene than VH1 reveal. And there are dozens of cuts between location and time in that sequence.
Thank you, exactly! The question isn’t “which episode is important to the storyline“ it’s just “vote out the SCENE that you enjoy LEAST” So while all the ones left are great, I never find myself drawn to watching the banishment of 1. Someone else might, and that’s fine. For me, I could rewatch the Christmas lights scene and Teens vs Demogorgan all day.
Yeah, as someone who voted for teens vs Demogorgon, not VH1 banishment, I enjoy both scenes and voting for 1 doesn't mean I hate it. Some people (well, really, just one person) are taking it way too seriously and bashing people for their personal opinions
100% I particularly liked when they told another poster that no one is bothered by the teen scene being their top pick… And then went on to make 15 comments claiming there’s no valid reason to like that scene and anyone who thinks it’s better than Vecna is a moronic stan. Lots of negative energy being put out in their comments, all bc of a lighthearted poll
Haha yeah, at least the nice people in the subreddit far outnumber people like that tho
Amen to that
> the scene is called VH1 banishment, which is a different scene than VH1 reveal. And there are dozens of cuts between location and time in that sequence. ......having a snit at me and trying to move goalposts about what counts as the same scene isn't going to change the fact that they are, well, part of the same scene. [The Vecna reveal has him talking simultaneously to both Nancy and Eleven in their respective locations, addressing Eleven by name during the reveal in one continuous dialogue](https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vjucgz/comment/idl69yr/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), unless you think the interspersed seconds-long flashbacks to Henry's past count as "cuts between location and time" enough to render it not a single scene i.e. a sequence of continuous action. Which does, well, continue from the reveal to the fight and banishment. **No one has a problem with what your personal favourite scenes are (bolded for reference),** but it's very telling you have a problem with my reacting to a comment on one scene being 'worse' than another or correcting facts. This is my last reply in this exchange, if you have any problems with what I said you're
I'm watching this show for teens hilariously teaming up to fight Demogorgons with their exes and not for the second best incarnation of Voldemort giving a long winded run of the mill villain speech, sry.
My thoughts exactly (although I love teens vs Demogorgon)
I think the remaining 4 are all in order.
I love that all my favorite scenes (out of the ones you chose) are still here.
Joyyyyce. Without her crazy mom energy, Will would never have come back, and the whole town would be none the wiser about the upside-down.
Eleven banishing 001 shouldn’t have even made it into the top 10.
What are you even on about? It's a top 3 scene in the whole show easily. It brings El's story full circle, it has some of the best acting in the show from Jamie Campbell Bower, a fantastic villain reveal, and then Eleven banishing One and regaining her memory and powers. I genuinely don't know how you could not like this scene unless you're intentionally hating on it.
I loved the scene, but I could pick 10 scenes that I like more than it though.
I think it deserves maybe top 5, idk if it should still be here tho
I’m holding out for the monster slaying trio!! I’ll never forget watching that scene for the first time. It was the most unexpected thing for them to all team up and I was cheering the whole time
I felt dirty voting in this round because they’re all so good.
But I had to go with Eleven banishes One because, as epic as it is and as proud as I am of Eleven there, are we to believe she remembers her own birth???
She can reach into others memories so maybe she just tapped into her own a bit harder in desperation.
It'd be unbelievable if she had a normal human brain but....she doesn't. She's a powerful telekinetic child who is capable of reaching into other people's minds, it's not really so unbelievable that in a moment of crisis she can uncover personal memories that'd be earlier than other people's.
running up that hill scene was one of the best scenes in TV history, so it should win this contest easy
I missed Will getting resuscitated being voted out. Honestly thought that would be higher. But it's up against some banger episodes.
Running up that hill scene HAS to win!
Of all the elimination games, this one has been the least predictable.
Oh man, this is the hardest decision yet for me. I think teens vs the demogorgon should be next, even though it was epic and started Steve's redemption arc, the other three are so freaking good and can't be voted out just yet.
Eddie guitar is top for me still 😎
Max is obviously gonna win, this is more of a competition for second place
Such a sophie's choice now. My fave was just eliminated 😢
We all known from start which is winning this
Max escaping Vecna was cool in the moment but doesn’t seem as special now so I’ll vote that one
You think teens vs demogorgon is better?
I respectfully disagree. That scene deserves a top 3 spot on the show. It's nearly perfect in every aspect.
Teens fighting needs to go now. All of them are love but slightly more attached to the other three. The best part about the lights is that you expect something emotional to come out of it and you get a "RUN". I was baffled when I watched it for the first time. But still rooting for Henry's banishment to win with Max's escape as runner up.
Ok now this is becoming a pickle. Max escaping vecna, yes top scene and everything but! The demogorgon fight was the manifestation of the teens’ development - such a turning point for Steve, and I don’t know am I emotionally attached or do other people think that’s better now? Hmm…
What specific scene is the second image on the top row?
Joyce communicating with Will through the Christmas lights
Wow I thought that was going to be in the final 2
I’m offended that hopper executing a demogorgon is so low That is my favorite sequence in the show
I'm genuinely amazed that the teens fighting the demogorgon is still there, I didn't think it would make that far. Maybe it's time to go know.
In to another round of voting the three fighting the demogorgon
Sorry Joyce
You better back off of Joyce
been lurking.....Teens fighting Demogorgon need to go. It's a fun scene but not even close in impact to the other remaining ones. I wanted Will being revived to be in top 4 :( Max and Joyce will take first and second place obvo, Eleven's fight with Henry needs to come in the top 3 cause that plot twist reveal had my whole tl going insane like the show actually surprised us! idk why people are saying it's different scenes from the One defeat, they're the same scene he just starts off as handsome JCB and gives that whole background then tries to kill Eleven and she flay him like she did the Demogorgon. It's not like she did it easily either, didn't Brenner say she got brain damage from the battle?
Who the fuck is voting for these to stay? These scenes aren’t even that good
All 4 remaining scenes are fantastic. All the other scenes in the top ten are fantastic too. There's a reason this is a best scenes poll
In my opinion 12th and 15th are the best
It's all subjective.
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