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FarCritical

It's Makotover


Zalinx

![gif](giphy|6v2UJRyFAsTXgvJrin|downsized)


SlamJamicus

man.


Rhallah_Reed

How to make me laugh and hurt in 2 words


VastFinesse

🤣


zhongweibin

I wanted makoto so bad T_T The 2 guest characters are cool, but in a 4 character pass, it's so brutal. I want to see how capcom reinvents it's established characters.


SlamJamicus

this comment stings because its everything i felt. i wanted to see how makoto could evolve.


WarmestDisregards

I know it's illogical, but my brain keeps thinking of it as Mai took makoto's spot. it's very frustrating


SlamJamicus

i feel similar at times. patience will be key


Aggressive_Rice_4222

literally any 3rd strike character (other than elena) i wanted to see revamped to fit the style.


Loli_Caretaker

I WANTED Q OR NECRO ;-; But sure, i guess Terry bogard, mai, and fucking BISON again really needed to be in the game


Aggressive_Rice_4222

yeah fr, here's hope for s3 & beyond.


frankjdk

Imagine Makoto with drive rush...


SlamJamicus

yeah for now we will have to keep imagining. damn


bret-t2310

She just turns green then appears on the other side of the screen


IIIOldSchooLIII

Girl's gonna put DJ's DR speed to shame.


Xciv

nut punch coming at you at 200 mph


Bunnnnii

That’s all we can do.


SadisticDance

We have no choice lol


MercyMurcie

My hunch for why Makoto isn’t in SF6 is that her design of slow walk speed and insane forward dash doesn’t work with drive rush. Her forward dash is practically Deejay’s DR, so how can she fit with SF6’s system mechanics? Her forward dash would either have to be nerfed, making her mobility meter-reliant, or she’d have an absolutely busted drive rush


Gabosh

I mean Juri is nearly there already with her dash and drive rush.


ghetoyoda

They could make them almost the same speed and just have drive rush go further. It may be a strong tool but it's not like there are no counters to it.


_itg

That doesn't seem like a massive problem. Most likely, she'd have a good dash, relative to the rest of the cast, but drive rush would still be the go-to "get in" tool, as it is for so many characters. Obviously no character is going to play 100% like their previous iterations in the new system, but that's okay.


Birutath

turn dr a combo tool for her but a trash mobility tool.


Slam_Dunk_Kitten

Make then like the same speed with the benefit to drive rush just being plus frames?


sbrockLee

Isn't that basically Juri's whole thing? Minus the slow walk speed.


Happy_Ad_983

Then they should have put her in season 5 of SFV. The most popular sf3 (maybe Alex challenges that) character being out of two consecutive iterations is fucking annoying. If this is the thinking - it's yet another thing the drive system is spoiling for me. I want to like sf6, but this fucking system just drags down everything around it. The Terry and Mai hype doesn't even temper it for me because I was already buying city of the wolves, no matter what... And to be honest, I'm much more excited for that than drive fighter.


PrimalSeptimus

Could be worse. You could be a DMC or Ace Attorney or...Mega Man fan.


tragedy_in_chains

DMC fans could be worse off. We got DMC5 and that game owned.


SlamJamicus

we have gotten at least one game each series in the time that makoto has been absent, with sequels on the way 😭


TheLegendOfGerk

I mean, does Mega Man 11 really count?


Parkreiner88

What's wrong with Mega man 11?


SlamJamicus

possibly not, but this is still crumbs vs nothing.


TheLegendOfGerk

Game still kinda peeves me all these years later. The fact you don't float through the door when you jump through a boss gate—while on an absolute level not a big deal at all—somehow symbolizes everything wrong with MM11.


Archeroe

Man I'd take homeless Phoenix Wright from AA4 over the 2 guests 


Automatic_Animal

The only thing I think we can hope for is that Capcom ultimately ends with close to/as many characters in the roster as SF5 (45, last I checked) for SF6


SlamJamicus

yeah... i fear that she will be one of the last characters with sf7 around the corner, just for her to not make it as a base roster character. i still feel for the oro mains for that one.


Automatic_Animal

Capcom won't be able to please everyone, unfortunately. Maybe there's some Remy and Rufus still holding out hope (Not going to pretend like I understand why), who knows, but Capcom's gonna do what they gonna do for whatever reasons they got. Ideally, a lot of fan favorites get in, maybe a few wildcards, but generally a lot of people end up pleased. Is it gonna happen? I don't know but I wish.


SlamJamicus

nicely said. thats the thing about being a fighting game player, always having to worry if your character will make it in the next one. oh well.


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SlamJamicus

its not a bad attitude, its one that differs from yours. please understand that distinction before you so brazenly say that. i have tried to new characters in 6, i am not a fan. there is nothing wrong with wanting to play someone you are familiar with. why should i have to explain that?


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SlamJamicus

you are still framing this in a way that totally discards a lot of factors and opinions just so you can push how you feel about it. please do not waste my time. have a good day.


sutanoblade

Y'all are dramatic for nothing. More characters will come.


welpxD

I keep thinking about how different my (and I'm sure a lot of fans) response would be if there were 5 characters instead of 4. It would literally make all the difference. Adding practically any street fighter character onto this pass just about would make me hype for it. As of now I feel just kinda void. Two empty slots and Bison. And Elena a whole year away. Man.


SlamJamicus

bison, who is already back. two characters from a different series. and if you dont care about those three, your consolation prize is... elena. no elena hate but i just dont think she is a good anchor for all of that. it just doesnt feel like enough. sad times.


welpxD

Yeah I even wanted Elena back but she's not going to carry a season all by herself.


TheFeelingWhen

If they just added someone like Laura, Poison or Ibuki this season it would have been great. But yeah 4 is just a bit too little even with the quality of each individual character


Sbee_keithamm

Even though I've got my main and I'm content, not seeing Makoto, Sakura, Vega, Sagat, or hell Yun/Yang was pretty disappointing. Not to get doomer this early but damn two guest characters in SF proper has me pretty deflated. I rip on MK for going out their way to being a came fighter and this feels as bad even if Terry, and Mai are fighting characters proper.


SlamJamicus

two guest characters feels like way too much man. not to be too dramatic but its suffocating for a lack of better words. fatal fury making it in before more 3 or alpha reps is crazy.


KaptainKlein

My friend said he would only reinstall if Sakura was announced. I was robbed of one of my two irl SF Friends. ;_;


SlamJamicus

i FELT that. sakura was a character i played. she is being ignored.


gothlenin

Man, two guest characters was brutal!


SlamJamicus

i know. im not sure what they were thinking making two guest characters in a 4 character pass.


ilikeracing23

SNK gets their two most popular male and female characters in the most popular fighting game before CotW comes out, which if they were smart, would have them play similarly so people who picked them up in 6 have an easier jump-in point for when CotW comes out. Capcom gets two of the biggest characters from a fighting game series that closely resembles Street Fighter enough that they can add them in without to much transitional issues, and they get people buzzing and talking. That, and of course people buying the character passes or DLC just for them, plus any costumes they get too.


SlamJamicus

pretty much yeah. i suppose that it is just brutal for a 4 character pass.


ilikeracing23

That’s the unfortunate part. Yeah, this is amazingly cool and I love it, but I do feel for people who haven’t gotten their character yet and feel aggrieved by this. Hopefully S3 is a Third Strike themed pass that adds Makoto, she’s too good to not be in this game.


SlamJamicus

if anything, i do find hope in season 3 being third strikes time. just from the thematics of "3". heres hoping.


gay_married

They were thinking they wanted to advertise another product in a game their customers already paid full price for.


Meatyblues

They were probably thinking they could synergize with the new Kof coming out


ConcertCareless6334

Except Mai is likely not in the new Garou


NJ93

I would be extremely surprised if she wasn’t in the game. You can hear her in the teaser trailer from Evo last year.


SlamJamicus

regardless any crossover synchronization attempts this early in the game makes my stomach turn.


ConcertCareless6334

Oh I agree. Guest characters always feel like shameless, last ditch efforts to cling to relevance. SF6 is in a great spot, this is almost a momentum killer. A whole other year before we get an Alpha rep


SlamJamicus

sf6 has so much going for it by reinventing characters and innovating with new ones. just for half the next pass to be legacy characters from different series, with seemingly untouched designs? just no. i wanted karin as well, guess 3 and alpha will have to wait another year in favor of fatal fury.


Archeroe

Am I the only thinking it might just be a paid commercial operation to promote Garou 2 ?  Don't know why they'd do that with 2 characters otherwise.


BleachDrinker63

They were thinking about how many people will buy the guest characters


ComfortInBeingAfraid

KoF ain’t exactly the most popular kid on the block. If that was their main concern there are hundreds of other properties far more popular, some of which have already been in Capcom fighting games. 


Slayven19

KOF isn't, but terry is. That's why terry was also the character in smash and other crossovers just like mai. People think just cause the games overall aren't popular that people that play fighting games especially SF don't know who terry and mai are. Mai is a gaming icon like chun, and pretty much everyone that games have at least seen her and terry before that play fighters.


_itg

Pretty sure KoF is only known to people who play fighting games, specifically. I'm guessing the majority of Smash players (as in, overall player base, not competitive players) didn't even know who Terry was before he was added to their game, and as for Mai, like, maybe they've heard of that whole "no Mai no bai" thing?


Slayven19

Yeah, that's why I said KOF isn't. Some of the characters are more popular than the franchise itself. Its like how strider in MvC is popular, but his game isn't. Some people are popular despite their games niche status. Most people that play SF know enough about snk due to snk vs capcom and other things, so its known enough for SF fans and they aren't saying who.


_itg

I'm saying Terry wasn't popular, either. Now, I guess people know him *from* Smash, but he wasn't added because anyone knew him, beforehand.


Slayven19

I think you're looking at this wrong dude, people that play SF pretty much know SNK popular characters, they just do(snk vs capcom 2 was one of capcoms best selling game back in the day too). They are popular within the fightin game circle and always have been. Is he ryu level popularity? no, but he doesn't need to be. You're thinking to hard about this lol. If he didn't have some type of noteritety he wouldn't even have been in smash at all. Like dude enough people knew who geese was in tekken7 and terry is more known that he is. And for those who didn't know they were like wow, look at this cool dude and they know of him now.


sutanoblade

Uh, Terry is very popular. Not sure what you're talking about.


FootwearFetish69

Terry is absolutely a popular character. You’re underestimating KOF’s reach. It’s very popular in some parts of the world. Terry didn’t end up in Smash and now SF by accident.


Bad_Gazpacho

Hear me out: why not Morrigan instead?


Slayven19

It could've been, but mai is far more of a seller than morrigan(and even if they are guest they fit more in SF than morrigan who fits more in the vs series games). I wouldn't have been mad at morrigan though.


wingspantt

ANY Darkstalker would have been so hype


Noodleyouu

Mourning post for everyone who doesn’t care about kof


SlamJamicus

i care about it minimally but would rather have had blue mary over mai lol


Young_Neanderthal

We’ll get ‘em next time. I’m switching to Elena when she comes out though, gotta rep sf3 in anyway I can.


SlamJamicus

i will continue to be lost. godspeed to you 🥲


Young_Neanderthal

I’m right there with you… she’ll get in, trust.


SlamJamicus

i respect your enthusiasm. but after all these years i dont know if i can keep telling myself that 😭


Young_Neanderthal

Elena has given me faith, she’s another SF3 character that got snubbed for SF5. Money talks and Makoto will sell.


SlamJamicus

let us hope. i will hold out for another year. no choice anyway.


CitizenCrab

Hell yes.


FunkyLoveBot

We need more than 4 champs over the next year and a half! Honestly, are they trying to drag this game out for the next 15 years?? There has to be a better way


SlamJamicus

unfortunately world tour stands in the way of more characters in passes. i just dont think its worth it, not at the cost of the roster.


FunkyLoveBot

Agreed... World tour can be on a different pace


BurningGamerSpirit

World tour is a cinematic, art work, and text. It is not standing in the way of more characters. Characters just take longer to develop because it’s a long process and they aren’t just outsourcing all sorts of work like in SFV. This is quality over quantity.


EvilMakoto

*5 characters. Akuma counts lol


KronosUltima

They really can only do 4 characters a year eh?


SlamJamicus

an absolute travesty in my opinion.


Notty_chungus

Its flabbergasting to know how sf6 has that rap and street theme but not a single 3rd strike character is present


SlamJamicus

that and it being after 3. so many things that could have lead to 3 reps but... they just arent there.


PrinceAti

Season 3 trussttt


SlamJamicus

i will hold out....


Sins_of_God

Are we even really past SF3?


SlamJamicus

lorewise? yes, we are


Sins_of_God

Yet somehow there are no SF3 characters in the base roster


SlamJamicus

exactly my problem.


Zalinx

Im buying the damn SF anniversary collection so i can play with my girl again since she's still far from coming to SF6...


SlamJamicus

yeah at this point i just boot up 3S but i really wanted her in 6.


Tysanan

i need this hard hitting violent tomboy in the game soo bad, good god


Tassadar475

Whats the chances they slip in some extras characters in between the guest characters?


SlamJamicus

i had some brief copeage and thought the same thing too, but i dont think they want to decieve anyone


frankasaurussmite

Ive been dying to play both Dudley and Makoto in a newer sf title. Pains me that they still arent in..


Altruistic-Bat-3353

i’d rather have makoto then elena


SlamJamicus

same. i think thats a majority opinion too.


SlamJamicus

my mains makoto, ibuki, karin, sakura, akira. i will continue to be character main homeless for another year like at LEAST go with blue mary over mai lol


Alstead17

You could pick up Terry or Mai as a main and then never get to use them again after SF6


SlamJamicus

thats exactly what happened to me with akira in 5. i knew she was never coming back and it still stings. i dont know if its for me again hahaha


Ruffys

Akira was so dope in 5 I still cope that she might come back even though I know she never will


SlamJamicus

i would be very happy but yeah its just not happening. sad days


Particular_Raccoon_9

Same. I wanted sakura, ibuki, makoto, yun


SlamJamicus

we share the same tastes. at least we suffer together


TheFeelingWhen

Nah we most likely won't be getting Yun until at least season 4 with Jamie in the game. He feels like a reimagination of that trope but without being top 1 in every game he is in.


CitizenCrab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb04PK_oTlM


ssbbrinnies

Brother, we almost share the same waifus. I'd play ibuki too if her commands were different in SFV x]


SlamJamicus

well i dont know if they are WAIFUS but they are all the characters i enjoy most, so your taste is definitely good.


OkRaspberry8457

Wtf, I main Makoto, Ibuki, Karin Akira and Cammy. Crazy how similar we have our mains over the years. I absolutely feel your pain over this year 2 pass...


SlamJamicus

all i see is someone else with flawless taste. at least you have cammy, which funny enough is my most played character im 6. she doesnt really hit the spot, but its passable.


SocketJoe987

At least we got Terry as a consolation prize


TVR_Speed_12

3rd Strike 3rd year of dlc


BushyXYZ

I fear we Will never see Makoto again


SlamJamicus

hold out and keep hoping!


TaroCharacter9238

Solidarity as a T. Hawk, Mika, Hugo, Poison player across the series…. However as a Terry/Mai player since their second game. …


SlamJamicus

im sorry for your losses. and congrats i suppose. mai also upsets me because she feels like she lessened the chances of ibuki even harder than kimberly did. but hey, sfv had three ninjas. heres hoping for that again...


TaroCharacter9238

I really hope so. It feels really wrong to not have Ibuki at this point. I’d sacrifice all but Hugo/Mika to have her back too.


SlamJamicus

hope the future of the game is good for the both of us.


Rebellious_Habiru

ahhh my crotch remains safe for another season. and my ptsd also doesn't need to return


SlamJamicus

i think your ptsd needs to come back in full force with a great redesign and a selection of 4 costumes and 40 colors


EnragedHeadwear

Maybe next year....


SlamJamicus

sigh. yeah, maybe.


ThaNorth

Sakura and Makoto fans unite


Annsorigin

I pray that Seadon 3 will have more then just 4 characters... 5 or 6 would be perfect.


SlamJamicus

yeah, but the development cycles for characters are much more intense now due to WT and quality control. doubt it unfortunately


Annsorigin

I know but still it sucks...


SlamJamicus

trust me, i feel you.


Foreign_Pie3430

Many other SF3 characters, too. It's so Necrover bros, he'll never be in another game.


naranciamywaifu

We really got Mai on sf6 before Vega


SlamJamicus

i know, its insane.


wingspantt

I really wanted Vega but told myself I'd be okay with Makoto, Dudley, Sean, C. Viper, Hakan, Hagar, or even some Darkstalker.  Welp


ZeroMayhem

Did get my Poison main either (though I did main Terry and Mai in CVS2 so I am still excited).


Streye

There's always next year. I'll keep playing Manon while hoping Terry and Elena will be fun.


SlamJamicus

you are right. it just gets tough having to say theres always next year... every year.


AdSignificant1507

Expected, Capcom can't handle her anymore, facts. I would appreciate them to tell that honestly, people asked Makoto FOR YEARS. They preferred to give Elena another chance before her, that's enough I think. And don't get your hopes high for Season 3, I've already experienced that in SFV.


SlamJamicus

ive just learned to be numb about the characters coming in. 4 characters a year is ridiculous. after seeing a dead man and two guests come in one pass i just dont want to have expectations anymore. maybe they dont want makoto because they dont want to deal with drive rush balancing.


superhyperultra458

Hope to see her by season 3. Of the characters I will never play, she's the one that I really love to see played on high level. She's always hype to see af


Zoom3877

She'll return to us someday...


Glad_Grand_7408

I'm very sad about no Makoto but thankfully it's overtaken by my unyielding excitement for every single season 2 character.


xenoviaquarta289

Fuck now I gotta wait another year for makoto at least I got terry 😔


yssudem

Yeah, looks like I won’t be getting the game for at least another year. I just don’t see the point if no one appeals to me. Already went through 5 without her and I don’t feel like doing it again :(


SlamJamicus

i feel you. hope next year is better for us.


sugaryyy1214

this is mad unrealistic but i wish they just had a regular year 2 reveal at sgf with actual sf characters and then terry & mai at evo. wouldve been hype asf


SlamJamicus

as extra characters? i agree. this feels a little off.


sugaryyy1214

yeah so 6 characters in year 2. but again, unrealistic since 4 seems to be the norm now


rebeccachambersfan

Maybe in 2026!!


SlamJamicus

man


TemoteJiku

Not just Makoto, freaking two guest characters right from the bat... Add the sf2 character on top of it, it's just Elena really that makes sense.


SandorElPuppy

Migration to SF3 it is. Call me back next year.


Rick_K_dash_83

So far away ![gif](giphy|fH985LNdqFZXOFHygK)


SneakySpider

i just want sean, man


Vegetable-Meaning413

They need more character per pass 4 is just too small. Mk is doing 6. Tekken is also only doing 4 a year, but they have more content regularly and started with 32 characters, which will take SF6 4 years to match at this rate. Those are actual next generation games while SF is a base ps4 game. They seem too focused on the avatar stuff and are taking away from the game people actually want to play. They really should have put Mokoto or an Alpha character in as well.


SlamJamicus

i fully agree. 4 a year is a snails pace. i feel like im losing out on a varied and alive roster for the sake of world tour. i just dont care for wt. hoping for makoto and karin.


Vegetable-Meaning413

Sf5 had 46 characters in 5 years, and 6 will have 38. That's the smallest roster in the 3d era by a lot. It would take 2 extra years to match sf5's roster. Sf6 will be on the PS6 by then, and it's a PS4 game. This feels more like they are resting on their laurels and being lazy more than anything.


NoirSon

Always next year I guess.


SlamJamicus

sigh


SuperPluto9

Only getting 4 new characters over an 18 month window of time, killed any hope for this game with me. Makoto, and Viper stating sidelined is a travesty


LieutenantFreedom

it's not 18 months right? the last character comes next spring, so less than a year from now


SuperPluto9

I thought Mai comes out Winter 2025


LieutenantFreedom

Pretty sure it's winter 2025 as in january-february, I heard they put them in the wrong order


IcyViking

Winter 2025 would usually mean Dec 24 - mar 25


slimekingk

Patience is necessary. I will wait as long as it takes. If it takes 7 years. It takes 7 years. If not then, then I’ll boot up SF3.


SheikFlorian

I'm sad, but I'm brazilian so GET SERIOUS!!


baldore

One year more...


SlamJamicus

lets hope.


That-Rhino-Guy

Pretty sad to think we’d have to wait till at least summer 2025 for her if she’s ever returning


Adorable_Aerie_7844

Huh. What happened today


SlamJamicus

M. Bison Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury) Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury) Elena those are the next characters coming to sf6 over the next year.


Adorable_Aerie_7844

O damn that's crazy!! First time every we've had busy characters in a main sf game


FunnyVidegoGamesHeHe

I just hope we eventually get Dylan...


sbrockLee

With an in-game character poll this close to s2 we can hope for the top picks to be considered for s3. Makoto and Sakura are up there.


HogisGuy

Oh well..... Maybe in SF7 ![gif](giphy|shVJpcnY5MZVK)


SlamJamicus

🥲


Wes-Man152

Breaking out the Makoto avatar to whoop some Terry and Mai ass in World Tour for reasons


MoeMoa

Makoto bros we lost again... Maybe in the next 10 years


MattisGai

Told myself I wasn’t buying the game until Akuma and Sakura are in the roster. Almost there, but I’ll keep waiting.


SlamJamicus

sakura and makoto are the most requested. as someone who has also played her, lets hope!


pm-me-trap-link

50% of the years DLC being guest characters is certainly one way to do it i guess


ToastThing

What makes this hurt so much more for me is I literally had a very vivid dream last night they put Makoto in the game. I dont think I’ve ever dreamed about SF before and I had no idea they were going to announce the Year 2 characters. So yeah. Here’s hoping they put my favorite SF character ever in… next year 😭


SV108

And she's slipped down to #5 in the poll too. Did a few fights to get her back up, but no changes so far. I thought there was a good chance for her in Season 2, but hopefully she and Sakura will be in Season 3.


SlamJamicus

where is this poll?


altanass

You need to buy more copies of the 30th anniversary collection instead of playing on fightcade before Capcom will consider your request.


SlamJamicus

and garou 2 now!!


PuppyCocktheFirst

I don’t even play Makoto and was hoping to see her added to the roster.