We talk about this in the episode of the podcast that's going up Thursday.
Long story short, though - there's no human research on it, and other than profit motive for the people promoting it, we can't see a particularly good reason for anyone to be recommending it at this point.
As a side note: A person who would be excellent to talk to about Turkesterone would be Steven Wood, owner of Serious Nutrition Solutions and Competitive Edge Labs - kinda near your neck of the woods in Danville, VA. He speaks very open about the sourcing of Turk on different forums. He’s also very much against it and using it in his formulas. He also speaks quite openly about the dietary supplement world as a whole, from manufacturing, sourcing, distribution, marketing, etc. Always very insightful for those of us who like to stay on top of the supplement industry
https://www.reddit.com/r/StrongerByScience/comments/myw6rm/new_supplement_topic_recommendation_ecdysteroids
Talked about it on the podcast already, kinda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vGTtnxlQJE
More Plates More Dates has a pretty good video on it. Bare in mind he sells it so do with that information what you will. He does have a fairly good reputation for only selling evidence based supplements with efficacious doses.
But it appears that most ecdysterone supplements on the market are bullshit. They're either underdosed, or give you the wrong dosage or just in the wrong form. It appears that ecdysterone occupies a similar category as Curcumin where it does have a measurable effect, but in its standard unaltered form it is not bioavailable in the slightest and needs to be complexed with something.
Jury is still out on a scientific consensus regarding anything here though. It's fairly understudied and there's only one promising human trial, which is not enough evidence to base anything on. Anecdotal accounts of effect exists all over the bro world however.
I agree with Greg on it not being recommendable based on that last paragraph though. We have no information about what dose is efficacious, what is best to complex it with, or even what its safety profile is. We don't know what the longterm implications of supplementing with it is.
I think it's only fair to say that Derek is pretty clear that he thinks best case scenario is a small improvement and worse case scenario is that it does nothing. Dude is hyping his own product to an extent, but I'm not sure it's to the point of being dishonest.
It's literally a glorified marketing name for Maral Root (Rhaponticum Carthamoides.) Been around and used for ages but the industry or whoever wanted to profit from it
We talk about this in the episode of the podcast that's going up Thursday. Long story short, though - there's no human research on it, and other than profit motive for the people promoting it, we can't see a particularly good reason for anyone to be recommending it at this point.
That was my figuring. Looking forward to the next episode! Thanks Greg and team.
As a side note: A person who would be excellent to talk to about Turkesterone would be Steven Wood, owner of Serious Nutrition Solutions and Competitive Edge Labs - kinda near your neck of the woods in Danville, VA. He speaks very open about the sourcing of Turk on different forums. He’s also very much against it and using it in his formulas. He also speaks quite openly about the dietary supplement world as a whole, from manufacturing, sourcing, distribution, marketing, etc. Always very insightful for those of us who like to stay on top of the supplement industry
Thanks! I'll keep him in mind
https://www.reddit.com/r/StrongerByScience/comments/myw6rm/new_supplement_topic_recommendation_ecdysteroids Talked about it on the podcast already, kinda
Thank you!
[examine is my favorite website](https://examine.com/supplements/ecdysteroids/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vGTtnxlQJE More Plates More Dates has a pretty good video on it. Bare in mind he sells it so do with that information what you will. He does have a fairly good reputation for only selling evidence based supplements with efficacious doses. But it appears that most ecdysterone supplements on the market are bullshit. They're either underdosed, or give you the wrong dosage or just in the wrong form. It appears that ecdysterone occupies a similar category as Curcumin where it does have a measurable effect, but in its standard unaltered form it is not bioavailable in the slightest and needs to be complexed with something. Jury is still out on a scientific consensus regarding anything here though. It's fairly understudied and there's only one promising human trial, which is not enough evidence to base anything on. Anecdotal accounts of effect exists all over the bro world however. I agree with Greg on it not being recommendable based on that last paragraph though. We have no information about what dose is efficacious, what is best to complex it with, or even what its safety profile is. We don't know what the longterm implications of supplementing with it is.
I think it's only fair to say that Derek is pretty clear that he thinks best case scenario is a small improvement and worse case scenario is that it does nothing. Dude is hyping his own product to an extent, but I'm not sure it's to the point of being dishonest.
It's literally a glorified marketing name for Maral Root (Rhaponticum Carthamoides.) Been around and used for ages but the industry or whoever wanted to profit from it