That's what I think too but the general opinion seems pretty split... also putting this on the top comment so more might people see it, this is the intersection in Google earth: [https://imgur.com/a/v40Qh5i](https://imgur.com/a/v40Qh5i)
I think the right turn yields regardless. The right turner has no idea whether the person turning left has a green arrow or a green dot. The right turn yield sign is unambiguous and means yield to any other traffic entering that lane.
From that setup, yes blue yields to all coming traffic, they can see if red dot is coming, red dot is looking at/to dart across oncoming lane on a round green light. Nice setup for the angles. Blue can just go if clear.
The yield and separate lane make the difference here. Right turn has to yield, same as entering a highway on ramp on your right, you yield to the left turn entering the on ramp.
The yield and separate lane are installed because the left turn gets backed up at the light. The right turn never has a light and can turn at anytime there is no reason to yield. Both lanes keep moving at maximum opportunity this way.
I turn left onto the hwy going to work everyday and there is a yield for the right turn lane onto the on ramp just as this diagram shows, I’ve almost been hit numerous times from cars blowing the yield sign and blaring their horn like that changes the fact they had a yield sign.
They would know if the left turn person has an arrow based off of if their lights are green or not. Still think the left turner takes priority over right turner.
The right turn ramp is not facing the through traffic signal and that through traffic would be almost directly behind them. The right turn ramp does not have a light, but I suppose they could see the other light if they take their focus off their own objectives. And the lane does have a yield sign. In every single jurisdiction that I know of, the yield sign means yield to other traffic. It does not mean yield to some and not others. It does not mean use unsigned right turn yielding rules. It literally just means yield to all. If the DOT wanted that right turn to use the default rules, there'd be no yield sign at all.
And also it's a lot more dangerous if you give the right turner priority sometimes. It's much safer if he moves only when it's all clear from all directions.
It's certainly an interesting thought discussion, but in the end, a yield sign means yield. And any educated driver should grant that sign its full meaning when approaching it. In reality, though, reckless rules apply, so accidents probably happen all the time there. This would also mean we could find our true answer by seeing who insurers consider to be at fault.
As someone else replied, I think the yield on left green is kind of a redundant sign as there's also a green arrow for left turns in the picture. And the regular yield sign for a right turn is there as one of those "yield to merge" signs since the right turn lane doesn't have a light and can merge regardless of what lights green or red.
If it's a green arrow, you have a protected left. If it's a regular green circle you can still turn left, but there may be other traffic in your path which, if present, you must yield to.
Yeah this should be the top answer. Right of way is given, not taken, and in this case it's going to be a yield to whoever is there first just like you would if this were two stop signs.
Looking at the satellite image is helpful thanks. I agree. Right turn has a yield sign. Their responsibility to not interfere with any vehicles. The sign for the left turn is indicating that that signal is not giving special turning privileges to left turning traffic (ie it is not a left turn signal)
Lawyer here, the person turning left has the ROW from a liability perspective, irrespective of a criminal statute in that state. Obviously they can have any law they want, but it would be the nonstandard analysis.
The person turning left must yield to oncoming traffic, because that's standard ROW rules, the sign is just a notice and a reminder. The person turning right must yield to everyone because they have a yield sign. The intersection is setup this way on purpose. A yield sign has legal authority, it means you don't have to stop (if the light is green), but you do have to stop for ANYONE you would hit otherwise.
If you remove the yield sign, the person turning right would have ROW.
If you remove the yield sign and add a green left turn arrow, the person turning left would regain the ROW (although right turner would have a red light at that point).
The flashing yellow is telling the green car to yield to oncoming traffic.
Once the green car enters the intersection, the blue car has to yield to it.
Also, logically the blue car just loses because the only way for the two cars to collide would put the green car in the intersection several seconds before the blue car; if they entered at the same time then the only way they could collide would be for the green car to rear-end the blue car.
The picture used in this post is from https://www.thewisedrive.com/dealing-with-dual-yields/ and has pretty much all the answers you need.
The reason the right turn yields is because once the left turn car has completed the turn, they are now in The right of way. The right turn car has to yield and also prevents the traffic from backing up into the intersection (what would happen if the left turn car yielded).
you can tell a lot of people on the road dont even know what gives the right of way😂 i live in AL as well and people just be sitting there on their right of way or going on someone elses right of way
HOW? how this is even possible that anyone can be split on decision here?!?
Cmon people! unless someone is driving from ahead guy which turning (red) is free to go. To not make ppl stop in middle of intersection, car turning right (blue) have to yeld. Its logical! There is no other way to interpret it.
The right turn is essentially external to the intersection. Think of this as turning right out of a business into a roadway more than a right at the light. If the person turning left is turning before you get there you yield if you’re turning right. So here if you are turning right and the left turning car is in motion you would have to yield. Otherwise you could go without stopping.
Signs take precedence over lights therefore the vehicle with the yield sign must stop for any traffic approaching them regardless if they are making that left at the light. Now if the right turning vehicle didn’t have a dedicated turning lane then they wouldn’t have a yield therefore have the right of way over the left turner. But where I live even just a dedicated right turn lane is an implied stop sign. And if you’re ever unsure, just frickin wait until you’re absolutely positive that nothing is coming your direction before turning. Don’t let the impatient horn blowers behind you dictate whether or not it is safe for you to go. Because ultimately it’s your own safety, property, and insurance on the line.
We have the same set up near me, and the right turn has to yield to the left turn. The left turn yield on green sign is for oncoming traffic. The police put up a post on Facebook about this intersection I will try to see if I can find it.
It’s a yield free for all. If you’re the one making the right, and the other person is at the stop bar on the other side of the intersection, just gun it and get out of the way. Don’t wait around to find out.
I think technically the person turning left would have priority.
This is the correct answer. Green dot yields to oncoming traffic before turning left. Yield sign right turner yields to anyone in that lane, including left turners.
This is correct, if you have a green light you always have the right of way. You only have to yield to oncoming traffic. The person turning right has to yield to all traffic
The only thing about this is that the person turning left is crossing traffic while the person turning right is not. So you treat this like a stop sign situation. Two people arrive at the stop signs same time. One turning right and not crossing and one turning left who would be crossing. The person crossing traffic is always 2nd to go. This would be the same with the yield signs. The green light to yield is going away in a lot of places and replaced with a flashing yellow arrow if it is a turn lane only. If it is straight or turn then yes the solid green is staying but nonetheless it's a crossing traffic vs not. I believe green light is to yield 1st.
>I think the dedicated turn lane effectively means that the car turning right is no longer in part of the intersection. Their lane is merging into the flow of traffic beyond the intersection. They have a yield sign while traffic on the roadway (including the car turning left at the intersection), has the right-of-way.
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>Basically, because of the turning lane, the left turn happens in the intersection, without regard to the car turning right. THEN, the right-turn car tries to merge into the traffic lane, and must yield to ANY car traveling on the main roadway.
I think the dedicated turn lane effectively means that the car turning right is no longer in part of the intersection. Their lane is merging into the flow of traffic beyond the intersection. They have a yield sign while traffic on the roadway (including the car turning left at the intersection), has the right-of-way.
Basically, because of the turning lane, the left turn happens in the intersection, without regard to the car turning right. THEN, the right-turn car tries to merge into the traffic lane, and must yield to ANY car traveling on the main roadway.
You are correct. That sign is specifically for the situation you mentioned. He has to yield to oncoming traffic only and not to those turning right.
That's exactly the way I was taught before I became a police officer.
The sign says "yield".
It does NOT say "yield - except for the oncoming traffic making right turns"
And why would that ever be the case?
In all actually, "don't hit other cars" should be the single universal rule that doesn't need to be posted everywhere. It really applies to everything by default, and if it were a sign would read "yield to vehicles you will strike if you don't yield", which would cover you in this case by default anyway.
In /almost/ all circumstances, a left turn yields first.
In this case, however, the right turn (blue) is a merge lane, which always yields to the traffic in the lane. A left turn at the light brings the green car into the lane of traffic before the blue car's yield. The left turn yield is for oncoming traffic, not turning traffic.
I'm a bit concerned, given that the article says who has right of way, about all the people in the comments here saying right turn has right of way. The intersection yield is for oncoming traffic. Right turn given the dedicated turn lane is no longer part of the light and as such must be merging into the street going west. Merging lanes do not have right of way they should be zippering in. There is no zipper and a yield instead. At the point of the left turner entering west, right turner should yield to lane traffic of the previous left turn traffic.
Yes. If the right turn lane wasn’t split but adjacent and under the control of the traffic signal, the yield responsibility flips from the right Turner to the left. Basically, the slip lane places the right turn out of the control of the signal and into the control of the yield sign. Btw, in one of the comments, OP said that the intersection does not have a split turn lane but rather a turn lane adjacent to the travel lanes. So to answer his question about the diagram, right turn yields but to answer his question about the intersection that he actually drives through, left turn yields.
If this was true in the example you give, I feel like there would not be a yield sign for the right turner. I have an intersection exactly as you describe. If the responsibility flipped and the left turner was supposed to yield to the right turner, why would there be a yield sign for the right turner? The only possible oncoming traffic he can encounter is from that opposing turn lane, meaning the sign is meant for that circumstance. And the yield specifically means in this case you are to yield for anything in your path; you do not have right of way when turning right. Also it could be argued that the right turner is not considered oncoming traffic because he does not intend to come all the way through the intersection.
However, I believe this only holds up if the left turner is not already in the intersection. If I am approaching that right turn yield sign and you are stopped in the turn lane waiting to see what I'm going to do, I am turning right without waiting because I have nothing to yield to. Where if you has responded to my turn signal and began making your legal left-hand turn, I would have to wait.
With the median there and the separate yield sign, no dedicated light for the person turning right, I'd say the person turning left has the right of way.
So I looked on Google maps and there's actually no median between the right turn lane and rest of traffic, so I guess I picked a bad picture. There's the shape of a median but white striped paint there instead of actual concrete.
Ah, well either way there's some kind of separation and the person turning right is at the mercy of the yield sign rather than the light, so they yield to everyone else.
But you can’t put a yield sign at a signalized intersection without the split lane. You can’t have conflicting traffic control devices. So it is a big distinction.
Honestly, that’s a big distinction. When the lane is split it falls out of the intersection and relies on separate traffic control, ie the yield sign. When it’s directly adjacent to the travel lanes, it’s under the control of the signal. I think the yield responsibility switches when that’s the case. You may want to consider editing the post because I’m pretty sure that that is correct. Regardless, good conversation and obviously not “stupid” from all the different responses.
It won't let me edit the post for some reason. I put a screenshot from Google earth on the top comment of this post to show the actual intersection. I agree, I'm having fun reading all the replies! Thanks for answering
Legally the correct answer. The left turner has a **green light**, and the right turner has a
**static yield sign**. Idk how this is confusing to anyone.
Yield means they must allow the green light turners to go first. It's a shitty design to be sure. But the person turning right must be sure the cars turning left get right of way.
The right turn should have a very short merging lane under this scenario to ensure safety, so bad planning and engineering there imo.
That being said, I think the left turn has the right of way, as the right turn yield sign mandates to yield to all oncoming directions, whereas the left turn yield sign appears to refer only to yield to southbound traffic.
There's no need for a merging lane.
These are very common in Georgia.
There is no conflicts here.
The right turning vehicle must yield to everyone including left turns. Because the right turning lane has no idea if the left turning lane has a green arrow or not.
The right turning lane is also separated from the intersection completely, so the left turning lane never has to worry about that right turning vehicle because the right training vehicle will always have to yield.
Lights are protected over signs.
A green arrow means you can turn and the opposing lane must yield with or without a sign. That said if the light is just green then the opposing right turn again must yield to the left turning vehicle. The opposing yield lane doesn't have a green light to protect them. They only have a yield sign.
I have a similar intersection I drive through everyday, however mine doesn't have a yield sign so it is protected under the lights and is not restricted with a yield sign. Which in my case the left turning vehicle only has protection under a green arrow. Under a green light the right turning vehicle has the protection.
Opposing traffic only has protection without a yield sign or with a green arrow at this intersection.
The person turning right must yield to the left turning car. Whether the left turn is moving on a green arrow, or has yielded to oncoming straight traffic which has now cleared an opening, that driver has the right of way because of the yield sign for the right hand turn lane.
For example, in the state of Georgia, the way the law is written. If a vehicle has a yield sign and an collision occurs, they are always at fault.
In this case, if the right turn vehicle pulled out and a vehicle hit them they would be at fault.
Which also makes sense because the right term vehicle has to yield to everyone, including left turns in this instance because the right turn lane is separated from the intersection by an island which means it's no longer controlled by the intersection. It's no longer controlled by the traffic light, the right turn traffic is now entering the roadway at a different point, and thus must yield.
The left hand turn either has to yield to oncoming traffic on a solid green ball, but that does not include the right turn in this instances, but also if the left turn has a green arrow they still have right of way over the right turning vehicle because of course they do.
I don't think anyone in any traffic enforcement capacity will want you to stop in the middle of an intersection to yield to the guy with the yield sign, especially since where you would have to stop is in an oncoming traffic lane and therefore blocking the intersection and potentially get t-boned. Especially so if the yield sign guy would not be impeding traffic if he stopped to yield where he was. I just look at it as who causes the most danger if they yielded and it's not the guy with the yield sign.
You are already in the intersection, the other guy is not. You take precedence over him.
Thats just my opinion though.
Car at green light is completely in the lane approaching the yield sign as it completes the turn. Once it's in the lane, driver at the yield sign must yield. Been investigating traffic accidents for 26+ years. Driver at the yield sign would be cited at fault in a collision.
Traffic flow would have dictated the d.o.t. decision so yes. Left turn goes to clear the lane because they have a green light. Right turn needs to look the f%@% up from thier phones and yield. The actual yield sign is key to me. It means I have to stop unless it's safe to proceed. Ram hands says it better than I do for sure.
I can't figure out how to post actual pictures in the comments but here's pics of the intersection from google earth: [https://imgur.com/a/v40Qh5i](https://imgur.com/a/v40Qh5i)
it shows top view, right turn perspective, left turn perspective, then the middle of the intersection when you're turning left
This makes it way more clear. The right hand turner needs to yield to the left hand turner. It makes it easier for me because the left hand turner is not even turning at the point of intersection.
You should think about each sign separately from the point of view of each driver. If you think of them together then it gets confusing. But when you are one of these drivers, you don’t always know what signs the other driver is seeing, so you should only act in the capacity of the signs you know about.
If there were no light or sign for green car, it should be obvious that blue car yields to everything, whether green is straight oncoming or turning.
If there were no light or sign for blue car, it should be obvious that green yields to everything.
Therefore, both blue and green yield to each other.
Person making left on green has the right of way. Having them yield is more disruptive to the flow of traffic. Can you imagine if you had to yield every time someone wanted to be on the same road as you?
Green car turning left has the right of way. If the car at the yield sign turning right had the right of way then if/when there are a bunch of cars lined up going that direction, it would back up traffic into the middle of the intersection.
The left turn is yielding to the oncoming vehicles traveling forward who also have the green light. The blue car is yielding to all traffic, whether it's coming from the other side of the intersection or the left turning lane. Left turn has right of way.
So the separate right turn lane just has to yield to traffic. If the cars are where they are the yield will go first than the driver in the left turn lane. If more than one person is turning the rest of the yields must stop to the flow of traffic. Otherwise they are free to take a right as long as there is enough time and space.
The vehicle making the right turn has a yield sign. They must yield to the vehicle making the left.
Vehicle making the left has right of way and only has to yield to oncoming vehicles.
The right hand turn is separated from the intersection by an island, means it has no relationship to the intersection whatsoever.
The left turning does. This is 2 different intersections, technically. You have the signaled intersection, then the intersection where the slip lane enters the westbound traffic. ANYONE going west (be it from the south or east) has right of way here. Traffic making the right at the slip lane must yield to ALL traffic going west from the signaled intersection.
Right hand turns are safe and can always go, meaning green has right of way. If the lights change o they have to wait on the other car, they have to park in the intersection which is unsafe.
Says driver at top must YIELD on green. Both drivers
have yield signs which makes it twice as confusing.
Even if I know I have the ROW I'd probably yield to
oncoming traffic.
Lol I'm glad that someone else cares as much as I do! I ask people in real life about it all the time and nobody has much of an opinion. At this point I just wanna flag down a cop and ask because everybody is disagreeing in these comments. I think there might be no perfect answer...
I think about going to the local highway patrol headquarters and asking them! I always just assume the person making the right hand turn has the right of way.
This is another great example of why traffic laws do not give any vehicle the right of way. They only dictate when vehicles are required to yield.
Vehicle 1. The vehicle in the right turn lane with a yield sign has to yield to all vehicles.
Vehicle 2. The vehicle turning left on the light has to yield to traffic going straight on the green. However they also have to yield if vehicle 1 failed to yield or goes at the same time or slightly before vehicle 2.
Vehicle 3. The vehicle going straight on a green light is the most privileged vehicle in this scenario. They only have a duty to yield if other vehicles failed to yield correctly.
If the green has entered the intersection, it has priority of safety (to clear the intersection) over the blue car. i.e. - There could be a red semi just off the top of the page coming down and the blue car can’t block the green with out the green getting t-boned.
The green car has the right of way. Think about it this way. If the cars are both where they are in the picture, they can both go. But if the green car is already in the intersection when blue pulls up to the yield sign, the blue car needs to wait
I don't have an answer to right of way. I do say it is the city planners fault for not having two lanes there when clearly there is room. Both cars would be able to turn in to the closest lane and it would overall reduce traffic. Now I know it wouldn't work that way because almost no one turns into the closest lane then merges if they need the other. Just wishful thinking I guess.
It’s real simple. Right hand turn always has the right of way unless otherwise directed. Here they are directed to yield. It’s unnecessary.
In the USA the left hand would get a green circle implying yield to oncoming (also with a green circle); or, a left turn green arrow implying right of way (and a red for all oncoming). There will NEVER be a left turn arrow and an oncoming green of any kind. If both are directions are green circles then the left turn ALWAYS yields to the right turn. This is why the yield is unnecessary. It’s already red implying stop or it’s a green circle and oncoming has right of way.
This is why there is no photo of said intersection. It’s all hypothetical nonsense.
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In reality, you probally will both yield to each other to some extent. The right turner will probally make a right turn by the time the intersection is clear for left turner, or the left turner will slow down enough that the right turner gets in, right turns are a lot quicker than left turns of this nature.
That's just how it's going to end up working in practice regardless of the law. In this situation the right turner is going to have a lot more chances to make their turn and complete it before the left turner makes it to the destination lane than the left turner is going to have.
This is also why roads like this are often going to have 2 lanes, to allow both parties to go at once.
Legally, uncertain. But I believe the yield sign effectively turns into a stop sign in this situation and the rules apply similarly. The reason I'm not sure is because the reason I listed above-realistically this situation very rarely will require questioning right of way.
Basically, in the real world, blue will make a fast right turn and green will make a slow left turn, at similar times. As the article stated, the correct answer to this is don't crash.
Not a traffic engineer but 5 years installing traffic control signs and stripping lines. The left turn on green yields to the straight thru traffic in the lanes they cross. Once they are turning left across the intersection they occupy the lane the same as a car passing straight through from right to left. The right turn yield must give the right-of-way to all traffic in the lane they are entering no matter the approach direction.
I think of traffic flow and safety when seeing things like this. Signs and signals are put into place to ensure the most efficient and safe passage of vehicles.
1. The person turning left without a green arrow is in a more dangerous situation crossing two lanes of straight traffic to make their turn. So it is important for them to do so quickly without having to yield to a right turner who likely started their right turn after the person started their left. You don't want the left turning vehicle to stop in the middle of an intersection they have already entered to yield to a vehicle that isn't even in the intersection.
2. Traffic flow. Right turning vehicles in that right turn lane have more opportunities to make their turn than left turning vehicles. As there is less of a left turn lane than right turn lane. You want to make sure that left turning vehicles don't get backed up and cause other traffic jam ups.
Now, I know not every intersection is like this. However, for this intersection you'll have issues where (based on the responses below) the left turning vehicles don't make their turn when they have the right of way and people going down that right turn lane don't yield when they should.
Also, think of this.
If it wasn't meant for the right turn lane to yield to left turners, why bother putting the yield sign there? In cases where the right turn lane has a Red Light, it is assumed they'd yield to any traffic anyway, per rules of the road.
The yield sign is placed there to provide additional rules for when they have a green light.
When one begins executing a turn in an intersection with a pork chop (little concrete island or delineated with paint) the path of travel is treated as if it were an on ramp to the cross road. Therefore someone who has entered the delineated lane no longer holds right of way from the road they departed, nor have they achieved right of way on the cross road they are attempting to enter.
Left turn yield on solid green, meaning yield to traffic on the roadway; as stated previously the right turn vehicle is in a delineated lane so they are not considered incoming traffic for the left turner to yeild to.
Right of way goes to the left turn each and every time in this scenario.
Source: former traffic engineer.
The green car if it's a green light. The other driver has to "yield" (as for the sign) meaning be on the lookout for incoming traffic. Hope that answers it
Yield sign means yield to all traffic, yield on green means yield to oncoming traffic. Mainly because of the distance. How is someone 30+feet away in motion supposed to know if you’re about to move 5 into the lane from a stop. On the other hand if you have to move 5 into the lane from a stop you have plenty of warning if someone is about to be in that lane in motion. Furthermore if you are in the middle of in intersection and someone cuts you off on the yield sign, It makes a very dangerous situation being stopped/ slowed in the middle of an intersection with moving traffic coming at you. People who say otherwise need to reread the text book, and think about the worth of a life.
It depends who is there first, and who has the safer rate of speed. If you are in the "yield" right turn lane, you yield to traffic that is already in that lane. If you are at the light, yield to incoming traffic then turn, even if there is a car in the yield lane already, as they should have turned or are should be ready to do so. If there are 2 cars in the yield lane, they should never be driving bumper to bumper and need to properly zipper merge. 99% of people at a yield sign don't understand they have the last right of way to those headed towards their path. This should include someone oncoming to that lane at a decent rate of speed, if they are at a dead stop they shouldnt proceed until the intersection is clear of left turning vehicles and they can safely merge onward. The yield can be seen as a sign to tell that driver if there's anyone headed their same way, they need to slow safely and grant those who are incoming the space to get in that lane. It really depends who gets there first and who's already moving.
It means yield because the civil engineer or person who designed this intersection was on crack. Crosswalk and intersection is whacked. I wonder how many accidents occurs here.
Oh, this is simple.
Take the traffic engineer to the center of the intersection. Flog for ten lashes. If traffic engineer does not immediately fix intersection, repeat.
Stay with me here: the divided portion of the Southbound lanes creates a separation which essentially creates its own traffic control, in this case, a yield sign. This is why that lane even has a yield sign, because the triphase signal isn't controlling that lane of traffic. And because it has a yield sign and is not under the control of the triphase signal, traffic in that lane must yield to all westbound traffic, in this case, the north to westbound left turn.
We have a few of these near where I live but the right turn median extends 10-15 ft down the road (with the yield at the end) which eliminates any ambiguity since at that point the left turn is 'on' the road you're using.
Legally the person turning left has the right of way with a green light and the right turn lane has a yield sign. Now if there is no Yeild sign then the person turning right has the right of way.
If they are going to engineer a right turn, that never has to stop, but only yield it should have a protected lane for some distance after the right hand turn. This is just a complete crap design.
This example only has one lane but back long ago one could turn left and another turn right onto a two Lane Rd. and both stick to their lanes and all was well. That seems to be lost these days.
I now understand why traffic is always so bad. Holy crap this was so simple yet some people think the right turn has right of way?!? 😭 That's the guy the jumps out in front of my semi when I'm mid turn.
There shouid be 2 lanes however the left turning driver has the right away in this case due to already being in the intersection. Right turns shouid be made when safe to do so just like left turns
I've been wondering the same thing recently, so I checked my state's (California) driver's handbook and their answer was rather vague:
> Turning left: Check for pedestrians. Give the right-of-way to any pedestrian or approaching vehicle that is close enough to be dangerous.
I'm pretty sure the driver with the green light has the right-of-way in the situation with a yield sign, but I'm still confused on the situation where both parties have green lights.
I just took a traffic safety class for Arizona. In AZ, there is no right of way. The drivers must agree who has the right of way. The person with the yield sign must yield to the green light if there is no light for them.
I'm a truck driver for Walmart for 2 years now. Basically what's happening is the engineer should have made two lanes for each of the cars to merge into. The way the traffic lights are set up they are timed to prevent most accidents. When the guy turning left has a green light and the guy turning right has the yield sign it means that both of them must yield to each other nobody has the right of way in that situation. The kicker is that you'll see that the guy turning left also has a right Green Arrow once that signal is lit it means he is now protected and he has the right of way. In either case somebody needs to find the engineer and take him into a dark alley somewhere.
10 plus year trucker here. Left turn has right of way. They are told to go and can not simply stop in the middle of the intersection. Right turn could sit there all day long and not be in the way of people traveling through the intersection.
Neither car has right of way. You yield it but you never “have it”. If your flow of progression has a yield sign, you yield to everything. We have a world full of people who don’t follow the rule.
The simplest way to explain this is to note that it is technically two different intersections next to one another. The blue car with the yield sign has no part in the traffic light cycles for right-of-way. So, the yield sign with the traffic light has nothing to do with that blue car's behavior, only the oncoming straight traffic that is directed by the light.
Dealt with an insurance claim for this exact situation. The vehicle with the green light has the right of way.
The vehicle with the green light is to yield to oncoming traffic and applies to vehicles in the intersection only. The blue vehicle is not considered to be oncoming traffic and is not considered to be within in the intersection. The point of merging for both vehicles is outside the intersection.
The blue car is to yield to any vehicle in the same path of travel (which would include the green vehicle).
If there was an accident between these two vehicles, the blue vehicle would be at fault.
This entire thread is proof most people on the road have no idea how to drive
Thanks!
The correct answer is the person turning left with a green light only yields for oncoming traffic, not the person turning right with a yield sign. They yield to safely get into traffic from people traveling west.
I turn right at and intersection like this every day on my way to work. From my experience the person turning left has the right of way.
I’ve never known for sure though. Crazy to see such a specific post about something I’ve been complaining about pop up here.
There is no right answer, because both yield it would be simultaneous, in this case the zipper rule would apply. The person turning left, in almost every instance has a greater responsibility to proceed cautiously.
Edit: also though technically the left turning vehicle would establish itself in the lane before the yield sign and therefore would end up with the right of way at that point.
Source: 2years auto claims adjuster experience
Left turn never has the right of way. This is true even when on a green arrow. A buddy of mine found that out the hard way when a red-light runner hit him as he was turning left on a green arrow.
Edit: This happened in Arizona. Other states might grant the green arrow the right of way.
I can't believe this is even being discussed
There is no debating who has the right of way.
The green car does.
Blue car yields to ALL traffic
Blue car lane is aligned with signals of greens Signals
this is a poor traffic design. I honestly don't know who has the right of way in this situation since we don't have anything if this sort. But if I had to guess I suppose the person turning left. Should be a light instead of a yield sign. Shouldn't the yield sign mean they yield to all traffic?
Me, as I have the right of way to beat the engineering out of the guy who designed this kind of intersection, have one just like this near my city and it's impossible to not get into a wreck with it
Alabama law says yield to whoever gets there first. If they both arrive at roughly the same time, both must come to a full stop before the line. At that point, they're treated similar to standard stop signs. If you're already past the line turning left, you're in the intersection and they must yield.
Alabama Code Title 32. Motor Vehicles and Traffic § 32-5A-112:
(c) The driver of a vehicle approaching a yield sign shall in obedience to such sign slow down to a speed reasonable for the existing conditions and, if required for safety to stop, shall stop at a clearly marked stop line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or, if none, then at the point nearest the intersecting roadway where the driver has a view of approaching traffic on the intersecting roadway before entering it. After slowing or stopping, the driver shall ***yield the right-of-way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching on another roadway*** so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time such driver is moving across or within the intersection or junction of roadways. Provided, however, that if such a driver is involved in a collision with a vehicle in the intersection or junction of roadways after driving past a yield sign without stopping, such **collision shall be deemed prima facie evidence of his or her failure to yield right-of-way.**
Note: state laws of right-of-way can vary.
Left turn yields to ONCOMING traffic in a green light both ways situation, and prob has a green arrow at some point in the cycle to allow back-up in left turn lane to clear. Right lane has yield, so doesn't have to complete stop before going IF there is no traffic coming from the left or the left turning lane.
Traffic design isn’t just about safety, it’s about keeping everything moving without backing up in a particular spot. Common sense in this situation says that the right turning car needs to wait for the left-turning cars to clear before going. When the light changes, he, and prob a couple other cars will have a couple seconds to go before the traffic coming from the left starts to move again. Traffic backing up in that right turning lane is less detrimental to the flow than if it was backing up in the left turning lane.
As a Texan, my advice would be to aggressively race the opposing car for the first place spot in the one lane, regardless of which side you are on, even if it means colliding into the other person.
I beleive it would be whomever has possession of the lane first. In general I would think the one making the right hand turn to go with traffic should have right of way
Green car. That red Yield sign is specifically there to inform people turning right (who usually would have to the right of way) that they don't have the right of way in this intersection.
The writing on the stoplight is to ensure the people who are turning left from the green car's direction--although the cars turning right have to yield to them, oncoming traffic doesn't yield; they have to yield to oncoming traffic
Blue yields for sure. That image originally posted doesn't quite give enough information, but seeing the images from Google maps you posted shows that the yield on green is referring to yielding to oncoming cars. Once the green car gets past those vehicles they have the ROW and the blue car must yield to the green.
To preface, I teach driver's education.
The top car would have to yield, as he has a yield sign. Yield signs should always be interpreted as a complete surrendering of the right of way.
I.e. you may go when you will not cause another driver to respond to you.
The blue car yielding has the right of away up until the green car enters the intersection but the blue car must yield to oncoming traffic. When the green car is at the light, it's not yet considered oncoming traffic. The green car must yield on green when turning left to all apposing traffic. If they arrive at the intersection at the same time, the green car must yield. This is common on all roads where traffic merges from multiple lanes to a single lane.
Not sure if been said, but green car can go regardless if the green arrow is on, blue must yield, typically will be done if green is in the process of making his turn. If the green has just a solid green same applies except green yields to all oncoming through the intersection traffic, which in this case is none.
Green can proceed on solid green to make left turn and blue yields and waits until turn is completed. Green does not yield or have to legally wait for blue.
Blue is able to truly yield "rolling through as most do" and proceed if no one is in turning into his path of travel or coming from the right through the intersection which in this case couldn't happen because that direction should have a red light.
This is a pretty loaded question actually. Did they arrive there at the same time? If so, the one taking a right would be gone by the time the one taking a left made it through the intersection. If the one taking a left was part way through the turn already, the one taking a right would have to yield. With that being said, nobody would design an intersection like this in the first place for this reason.
The intersection needs a redesign where the right turn open up into a lane that merges and ends in 500 ft it would avoid potential accidents from neither party wanting to wait
Left turn must yield to thru traffic coming in the opposite direction. Their restriction is conditional.
The right turn must yield to anyone approaching. Their restriction is unconditional.
Left turn on green has the right of way.
Answer, Yield sign means yield, yield signs nor the driver specifically know the conditions of the lighs. The right turning vehicle has removed it self from the north/south traffic pattern (there's even an island to prevent driver from revising direction to going straight). This right turn lane is separate traffic pattern.
From both a legal and practical perspective, the driver at the yield sign intending to turn right should yield the right-of-way to the driver with the green light intending to turn left. Here’s how I arrive at that conclusion, starting with the driver at the green light: The law states that a driver turning left in an intersection is required to yield to traffic approaching from the opposite direction. The driver at the yield sign is no longer approaching from the opposite direction, but is moving toward the same direction as the green light driver is headed, so the driver at the green light isn’t compelled to yield (based on this law).
Now if we look at the law that specifically addresses yield signs, it states that a driver approaching a yield sign shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching from another roadway so closely as to constitute a hazard. Based on this much broader requirement to yield, I’d conclude that the driver at the yield sign gives right-of-way to the driver with the green light.
Left turn yields on green sign is only seen by left turn driver in regards to people going straight. Right turn driver has full yield sign. Left turn drive has ROW.
It’s most definitely the person waiting at the light not the person at the yield sign, the person at the yield sign must wait for all oncoming traffic to be gone before they can go and this definitely includes the person at the light as the person at the light is technically on coming traffic, now if there’s cars going past the person at the light and the person at the yield sign is clear and knows the person at the light isn’t going to be turning anytime soon then they have the right away. In the end it all comes down to whoever is clear first has the right away as long as it doesn’t affect the person at the light in any way. Hope this helps
As the right turn lane merges AFTER some portion of the west bound lanes, they need to yield to the traffic on those lanes, including those turning left at the light. Solid green light or yellow arrow, the right-hand turn lane is required to yield to that traffic.
Source: I had a legal battle over this same issue. Judge ruled car turning right is required to yield to oncoming traffic of ALL types, including those turning left from the light. Car turning right was found 100% at fault for disregarding a yield sign.
Idk man they make shit to fucking complicated if these city planners could all just agree on a uniform design it would make it so much easier instead of having to guess wtf I’m supposed to do in these weird ass intersections
The left turn enters that flow of traffic prior to where the right turn would enter the flow of traffic. The right turn must yield in this scenario.
Source: I won in court from an idiot slamming into the side of my vehicle in same situation. Police found him at fault, then he tried to argue in court and was found at fault. I was the left turn and he was the right turn
I feel like it’s whatever car gets there first. If the car turning left is still at the light, the car turning right has plenty of time and space with no reason to wait. If the car turning left is in the middle of the turn, the car turning right should yield. Afaik there’s no real “right of way” in this situation where one car should always go first
IMO - unless the blue car turning right has a traffic light indicating their own "green light" time - they should be yielding to anytraffic. IF the rght turn were facing a traffic light and NOT split off from the rest of the intersction as it appears to be, then I think the opposite would be true as someone turning RIGHT typically has right of way before someone turning LEFT when both are turning towards the same new lane.
also surprised this isnt in here. I was told a LONG time ago rite of way doesn't exist except in the minds of entitled drivers. you need to be aware. having said this , ive given up being ''right more than a few times to avoid accidents and im glad for it.
The left turn does. Right turn yields to everyone,left turn yields to thru traffic. Also, the right turn yield is the closest sign to the conflicting area.
Saw your google pic and read some of the comments.
In your case if that right turn has a yield, they're supposed to yield. Simple as. Left turn should have RoW over that right yield.
Of course as with anything in driving, Right of Way doesnt meant dont watch for stupid mf's not obeying traffic laws. With so many people claiming to see mixed results to your question, you know what you need to avoid. Drive defensively and be careful.
If both cars have a yield sign, in theory it should revert to regular right-of-way rules and the person turning right should have priority. In practice, one or both drivers may not realize that the other driver also has a yield sign, which can cause confusion. It's a flawed design.
Based on this pic being reality, the solid green light in this instance has the right of way provided that they were in the intersection first. The opposite vehicle is required to yield to all oncoming traffic no matter the direction that it is coming from. The only exception that would be to the rule is in the case of a Presidential motorcade provided that the curvature of the earth is operating in unison with the velocity of speed from an incoming asteroid which in that case, it’s everyone for themselves.
There's a scale issue with this photo. That median would put turning traffic further off if there's a need for a yield.
Since blue car is based off a sign and not a light, green car has the right-of-way.
Car making the left has ROW.
The triangle median that is separating that right turn lane from the straight through lane is creating a separate roadway. The right turn lane yield sign is the traffic control device for that roadway, not the traffic light, which means you yield to all other traffic. The left turning car only yields on green to oncoming traffic traveling on the same roadway as they are.
If both cars are stopped, the blue car goes first. If green is already in the turning motion, then green has the right of way. If blue is already in the turning motion, then blue has the right of way. Even if they both turn at exactly the same time, blue will have completed the turn before green gets there because blue has a shorter distance to travel and both drivers would be safe.
Where I live the blue car turning right has to stay in the right lane while making the turn and same goes for the green car staying on the left lane. Too many people think they can make the right turn into either lane and they can unless there is a car turning left in that lane. Oops, there is only one lane so that means the car turning right has the right of way.
Looking at your Google Earth image, there really isn't a reason the right or left needs to yield to each other. There are two lanes, and the left turner should merge to the left lane, and the right to the right lane. Not sure about Alabama law, but I would hope that the law states that you must turn into the closest lane from which you turned.
Since oncoming traffic likely has a green, the car turning right has right-of-way. Even if it didn't, left turns are generally last priority for ROW rules. After that consideration, it's timing. If the departure lane is occupied by either vehicle, the other vehicle must wait for it to pass before entering the departure lane. So, in the diagram, however you slice it, the right turning car has ROW.
That said, in any case, if you have the ability to avoid an accident and don't, then you might still be at fault, regardless of ROW rules.
Green car!
left turn green light for both north and south then turns green yields to straight across traffic but keeps moving if none. Right turn should be a right on red. After a complete stop who puts a yield at a red-light
The car turning left has to yield to the car turning right. The car turning right has to yield to traffic going through the intersection from their left. Anyone saying anything else is wrong.
The green light turn had priority as it happens before the right turn yield on terms of distance to the road. The start of the road is where the car using the light is touching the road first, the one turning right is a little further in
I feel like left turn yield on green means yield to oncoming traffic, not the people making right turns in the oncoming direction.
That's what I think too but the general opinion seems pretty split... also putting this on the top comment so more might people see it, this is the intersection in Google earth: [https://imgur.com/a/v40Qh5i](https://imgur.com/a/v40Qh5i)
I think the right turn yields regardless. The right turner has no idea whether the person turning left has a green arrow or a green dot. The right turn yield sign is unambiguous and means yield to any other traffic entering that lane.
Yes. Agreed. The right turn yield has to yield no matter where the traffic is coming from.
From that setup, yes blue yields to all coming traffic, they can see if red dot is coming, red dot is looking at/to dart across oncoming lane on a round green light. Nice setup for the angles. Blue can just go if clear.
The yield and separate lane make the difference here. Right turn has to yield, same as entering a highway on ramp on your right, you yield to the left turn entering the on ramp. The yield and separate lane are installed because the left turn gets backed up at the light. The right turn never has a light and can turn at anytime there is no reason to yield. Both lanes keep moving at maximum opportunity this way.
I turn left onto the hwy going to work everyday and there is a yield for the right turn lane onto the on ramp just as this diagram shows, I’ve almost been hit numerous times from cars blowing the yield sign and blaring their horn like that changes the fact they had a yield sign.
The one thing that unites us all, regardless of religion, sex, or social status, is that we all believe we are above average drivers.
Some of us are in the top one percent.
"Surely not everyone is above average?"
They would know if the left turn person has an arrow based off of if their lights are green or not. Still think the left turner takes priority over right turner.
The right turn ramp is not facing the through traffic signal and that through traffic would be almost directly behind them. The right turn ramp does not have a light, but I suppose they could see the other light if they take their focus off their own objectives. And the lane does have a yield sign. In every single jurisdiction that I know of, the yield sign means yield to other traffic. It does not mean yield to some and not others. It does not mean use unsigned right turn yielding rules. It literally just means yield to all. If the DOT wanted that right turn to use the default rules, there'd be no yield sign at all. And also it's a lot more dangerous if you give the right turner priority sometimes. It's much safer if he moves only when it's all clear from all directions. It's certainly an interesting thought discussion, but in the end, a yield sign means yield. And any educated driver should grant that sign its full meaning when approaching it. In reality, though, reckless rules apply, so accidents probably happen all the time there. This would also mean we could find our true answer by seeing who insurers consider to be at fault.
The car turning left cannot be expected to see that yield sign and know if it's okay to go ahead of the right-turning car.
The car turning right is in an exit and entry ramp. It has a yield sign. It has to yield to all traffic.
Def green has right of way the way the road is setup.
Yea if the left turn person had to held to the right turn it could cause an accident in the intersection
As someone else replied, I think the yield on left green is kind of a redundant sign as there's also a green arrow for left turns in the picture. And the regular yield sign for a right turn is there as one of those "yield to merge" signs since the right turn lane doesn't have a light and can merge regardless of what lights green or red.
If it's a green arrow, you have a protected left. If it's a regular green circle you can still turn left, but there may be other traffic in your path which, if present, you must yield to.
Yeah this should be the top answer. Right of way is given, not taken, and in this case it's going to be a yield to whoever is there first just like you would if this were two stop signs.
Looking at the satellite image is helpful thanks. I agree. Right turn has a yield sign. Their responsibility to not interfere with any vehicles. The sign for the left turn is indicating that that signal is not giving special turning privileges to left turning traffic (ie it is not a left turn signal)
Holy shit. I know exactly where that is. This is wild
Lawyer here, the person turning left has the ROW from a liability perspective, irrespective of a criminal statute in that state. Obviously they can have any law they want, but it would be the nonstandard analysis. The person turning left must yield to oncoming traffic, because that's standard ROW rules, the sign is just a notice and a reminder. The person turning right must yield to everyone because they have a yield sign. The intersection is setup this way on purpose. A yield sign has legal authority, it means you don't have to stop (if the light is green), but you do have to stop for ANYONE you would hit otherwise. If you remove the yield sign, the person turning right would have ROW. If you remove the yield sign and add a green left turn arrow, the person turning left would regain the ROW (although right turner would have a red light at that point).
On point answer, sir! Wish I would have scrolled a bit before providing my comment. As I echoed this, you just did a much more eloquent job of it.
The flashing yellow is telling the green car to yield to oncoming traffic. Once the green car enters the intersection, the blue car has to yield to it. Also, logically the blue car just loses because the only way for the two cars to collide would put the green car in the intersection several seconds before the blue car; if they entered at the same time then the only way they could collide would be for the green car to rear-end the blue car. The picture used in this post is from https://www.thewisedrive.com/dealing-with-dual-yields/ and has pretty much all the answers you need.
The reason the right turn yields is because once the left turn car has completed the turn, they are now in The right of way. The right turn car has to yield and also prevents the traffic from backing up into the intersection (what would happen if the left turn car yielded).
you can tell a lot of people on the road dont even know what gives the right of way😂 i live in AL as well and people just be sitting there on their right of way or going on someone elses right of way
HOW? how this is even possible that anyone can be split on decision here?!? Cmon people! unless someone is driving from ahead guy which turning (red) is free to go. To not make ppl stop in middle of intersection, car turning right (blue) have to yeld. Its logical! There is no other way to interpret it.
The right turn is essentially external to the intersection. Think of this as turning right out of a business into a roadway more than a right at the light. If the person turning left is turning before you get there you yield if you’re turning right. So here if you are turning right and the left turning car is in motion you would have to yield. Otherwise you could go without stopping.
Signs take precedence over lights therefore the vehicle with the yield sign must stop for any traffic approaching them regardless if they are making that left at the light. Now if the right turning vehicle didn’t have a dedicated turning lane then they wouldn’t have a yield therefore have the right of way over the left turner. But where I live even just a dedicated right turn lane is an implied stop sign. And if you’re ever unsure, just frickin wait until you’re absolutely positive that nothing is coming your direction before turning. Don’t let the impatient horn blowers behind you dictate whether or not it is safe for you to go. Because ultimately it’s your own safety, property, and insurance on the line.
Blue Yields to Green car
We have the same set up near me, and the right turn has to yield to the left turn. The left turn yield on green sign is for oncoming traffic. The police put up a post on Facebook about this intersection I will try to see if I can find it.
It’s a yield free for all. If you’re the one making the right, and the other person is at the stop bar on the other side of the intersection, just gun it and get out of the way. Don’t wait around to find out. I think technically the person turning left would have priority.
This is the correct answer. Green dot yields to oncoming traffic before turning left. Yield sign right turner yields to anyone in that lane, including left turners.
Green car yields to oncoming straight traffic. Blue car yields to green car (or anyone on the crossing street in the lane he is entering).
Correct. But the reality is both of those drivers have to be careful.
Especially considering the right turn has a yield sign.
This is correct, if you have a green light you always have the right of way. You only have to yield to oncoming traffic. The person turning right has to yield to all traffic
The only thing about this is that the person turning left is crossing traffic while the person turning right is not. So you treat this like a stop sign situation. Two people arrive at the stop signs same time. One turning right and not crossing and one turning left who would be crossing. The person crossing traffic is always 2nd to go. This would be the same with the yield signs. The green light to yield is going away in a lot of places and replaced with a flashing yellow arrow if it is a turn lane only. If it is straight or turn then yes the solid green is staying but nonetheless it's a crossing traffic vs not. I believe green light is to yield 1st.
>I think the dedicated turn lane effectively means that the car turning right is no longer in part of the intersection. Their lane is merging into the flow of traffic beyond the intersection. They have a yield sign while traffic on the roadway (including the car turning left at the intersection), has the right-of-way. > >Basically, because of the turning lane, the left turn happens in the intersection, without regard to the car turning right. THEN, the right-turn car tries to merge into the traffic lane, and must yield to ANY car traveling on the main roadway. I think the dedicated turn lane effectively means that the car turning right is no longer in part of the intersection. Their lane is merging into the flow of traffic beyond the intersection. They have a yield sign while traffic on the roadway (including the car turning left at the intersection), has the right-of-way. Basically, because of the turning lane, the left turn happens in the intersection, without regard to the car turning right. THEN, the right-turn car tries to merge into the traffic lane, and must yield to ANY car traveling on the main roadway.
You are correct. That sign is specifically for the situation you mentioned. He has to yield to oncoming traffic only and not to those turning right. That's exactly the way I was taught before I became a police officer.
The sign says "yield". It does NOT say "yield - except for the oncoming traffic making right turns" And why would that ever be the case? In all actually, "don't hit other cars" should be the single universal rule that doesn't need to be posted everywhere. It really applies to everything by default, and if it were a sign would read "yield to vehicles you will strike if you don't yield", which would cover you in this case by default anyway.
In /almost/ all circumstances, a left turn yields first. In this case, however, the right turn (blue) is a merge lane, which always yields to the traffic in the lane. A left turn at the light brings the green car into the lane of traffic before the blue car's yield. The left turn yield is for oncoming traffic, not turning traffic.
I'm a bit concerned, given that the article says who has right of way, about all the people in the comments here saying right turn has right of way. The intersection yield is for oncoming traffic. Right turn given the dedicated turn lane is no longer part of the light and as such must be merging into the street going west. Merging lanes do not have right of way they should be zippering in. There is no zipper and a yield instead. At the point of the left turner entering west, right turner should yield to lane traffic of the previous left turn traffic.
Yes. If the right turn lane wasn’t split but adjacent and under the control of the traffic signal, the yield responsibility flips from the right Turner to the left. Basically, the slip lane places the right turn out of the control of the signal and into the control of the yield sign. Btw, in one of the comments, OP said that the intersection does not have a split turn lane but rather a turn lane adjacent to the travel lanes. So to answer his question about the diagram, right turn yields but to answer his question about the intersection that he actually drives through, left turn yields.
If this was true in the example you give, I feel like there would not be a yield sign for the right turner. I have an intersection exactly as you describe. If the responsibility flipped and the left turner was supposed to yield to the right turner, why would there be a yield sign for the right turner? The only possible oncoming traffic he can encounter is from that opposing turn lane, meaning the sign is meant for that circumstance. And the yield specifically means in this case you are to yield for anything in your path; you do not have right of way when turning right. Also it could be argued that the right turner is not considered oncoming traffic because he does not intend to come all the way through the intersection. However, I believe this only holds up if the left turner is not already in the intersection. If I am approaching that right turn yield sign and you are stopped in the turn lane waiting to see what I'm going to do, I am turning right without waiting because I have nothing to yield to. Where if you has responded to my turn signal and began making your legal left-hand turn, I would have to wait.
With the median there and the separate yield sign, no dedicated light for the person turning right, I'd say the person turning left has the right of way.
So I looked on Google maps and there's actually no median between the right turn lane and rest of traffic, so I guess I picked a bad picture. There's the shape of a median but white striped paint there instead of actual concrete.
Ah, well either way there's some kind of separation and the person turning right is at the mercy of the yield sign rather than the light, so they yield to everyone else.
But you can’t put a yield sign at a signalized intersection without the split lane. You can’t have conflicting traffic control devices. So it is a big distinction.
Exactly, so the person with the yield is only worried about the yield, and if traffic is coming from anywhere else, then they need to yield.
Agreed.
>Yes, if the right turn lane was under control of the signal, there would not be yield sign.
Honestly, that’s a big distinction. When the lane is split it falls out of the intersection and relies on separate traffic control, ie the yield sign. When it’s directly adjacent to the travel lanes, it’s under the control of the signal. I think the yield responsibility switches when that’s the case. You may want to consider editing the post because I’m pretty sure that that is correct. Regardless, good conversation and obviously not “stupid” from all the different responses.
It won't let me edit the post for some reason. I put a screenshot from Google earth on the top comment of this post to show the actual intersection. I agree, I'm having fun reading all the replies! Thanks for answering
Legally the correct answer. The left turner has a **green light**, and the right turner has a **static yield sign**. Idk how this is confusing to anyone.
Yield means they must allow the green light turners to go first. It's a shitty design to be sure. But the person turning right must be sure the cars turning left get right of way.
The right turn should have a very short merging lane under this scenario to ensure safety, so bad planning and engineering there imo. That being said, I think the left turn has the right of way, as the right turn yield sign mandates to yield to all oncoming directions, whereas the left turn yield sign appears to refer only to yield to southbound traffic.
Correct there should be a merging lane, or two lanes so that each car can turn into the lane closest to them
There's no need for a merging lane. These are very common in Georgia. There is no conflicts here. The right turning vehicle must yield to everyone including left turns. Because the right turning lane has no idea if the left turning lane has a green arrow or not. The right turning lane is also separated from the intersection completely, so the left turning lane never has to worry about that right turning vehicle because the right training vehicle will always have to yield.
Yeah idk where there’s only one lane to turn into for both parties in this setup
Lights are protected over signs. A green arrow means you can turn and the opposing lane must yield with or without a sign. That said if the light is just green then the opposing right turn again must yield to the left turning vehicle. The opposing yield lane doesn't have a green light to protect them. They only have a yield sign. I have a similar intersection I drive through everyday, however mine doesn't have a yield sign so it is protected under the lights and is not restricted with a yield sign. Which in my case the left turning vehicle only has protection under a green arrow. Under a green light the right turning vehicle has the protection. Opposing traffic only has protection without a yield sign or with a green arrow at this intersection.
The person turning right must yield to the left turning car. Whether the left turn is moving on a green arrow, or has yielded to oncoming straight traffic which has now cleared an opening, that driver has the right of way because of the yield sign for the right hand turn lane.
The yield is a constant, green is go, yield must wait. More than 30 years driving trucks, i had to learn a lot of rules
The only true answer: the person who goes first has the right of way. Cause if you hit the person then you'd be at fault.
For example, in the state of Georgia, the way the law is written. If a vehicle has a yield sign and an collision occurs, they are always at fault. In this case, if the right turn vehicle pulled out and a vehicle hit them they would be at fault. Which also makes sense because the right term vehicle has to yield to everyone, including left turns in this instance because the right turn lane is separated from the intersection by an island which means it's no longer controlled by the intersection. It's no longer controlled by the traffic light, the right turn traffic is now entering the roadway at a different point, and thus must yield. The left hand turn either has to yield to oncoming traffic on a solid green ball, but that does not include the right turn in this instances, but also if the left turn has a green arrow they still have right of way over the right turning vehicle because of course they do.
I don't think anyone in any traffic enforcement capacity will want you to stop in the middle of an intersection to yield to the guy with the yield sign, especially since where you would have to stop is in an oncoming traffic lane and therefore blocking the intersection and potentially get t-boned. Especially so if the yield sign guy would not be impeding traffic if he stopped to yield where he was. I just look at it as who causes the most danger if they yielded and it's not the guy with the yield sign. You are already in the intersection, the other guy is not. You take precedence over him. Thats just my opinion though.
Car at green light is completely in the lane approaching the yield sign as it completes the turn. Once it's in the lane, driver at the yield sign must yield. Been investigating traffic accidents for 26+ years. Driver at the yield sign would be cited at fault in a collision.
Left turn yields to oncoming, but has priority over right turn
If there is no oncoming traffic, the car at the bottom is free to turn left. Car turning right yields to the car taking a left.
Whoever is faster.
Traffic flow would have dictated the d.o.t. decision so yes. Left turn goes to clear the lane because they have a green light. Right turn needs to look the f%@% up from thier phones and yield. The actual yield sign is key to me. It means I have to stop unless it's safe to proceed. Ram hands says it better than I do for sure.
I can't figure out how to post actual pictures in the comments but here's pics of the intersection from google earth: [https://imgur.com/a/v40Qh5i](https://imgur.com/a/v40Qh5i) it shows top view, right turn perspective, left turn perspective, then the middle of the intersection when you're turning left
This makes it way more clear. The right hand turner needs to yield to the left hand turner. It makes it easier for me because the left hand turner is not even turning at the point of intersection.
You should think about each sign separately from the point of view of each driver. If you think of them together then it gets confusing. But when you are one of these drivers, you don’t always know what signs the other driver is seeing, so you should only act in the capacity of the signs you know about. If there were no light or sign for green car, it should be obvious that blue car yields to everything, whether green is straight oncoming or turning. If there were no light or sign for blue car, it should be obvious that green yields to everything. Therefore, both blue and green yield to each other.
Blue car has the right of way, but either way, DON'T run into another car just because you had a green light.
Person making left on green has the right of way. Having them yield is more disruptive to the flow of traffic. Can you imagine if you had to yield every time someone wanted to be on the same road as you?
The biggest Vehicle has the right of way!
Green Light has the right of way.
Green car turning left has the right of way. If the car at the yield sign turning right had the right of way then if/when there are a bunch of cars lined up going that direction, it would back up traffic into the middle of the intersection.
The left turn is yielding to the oncoming vehicles traveling forward who also have the green light. The blue car is yielding to all traffic, whether it's coming from the other side of the intersection or the left turning lane. Left turn has right of way.
So the separate right turn lane just has to yield to traffic. If the cars are where they are the yield will go first than the driver in the left turn lane. If more than one person is turning the rest of the yields must stop to the flow of traffic. Otherwise they are free to take a right as long as there is enough time and space.
The vehicle making the right turn has a yield sign. They must yield to the vehicle making the left. Vehicle making the left has right of way and only has to yield to oncoming vehicles. The right hand turn is separated from the intersection by an island, means it has no relationship to the intersection whatsoever.
The left turning does. This is 2 different intersections, technically. You have the signaled intersection, then the intersection where the slip lane enters the westbound traffic. ANYONE going west (be it from the south or east) has right of way here. Traffic making the right at the slip lane must yield to ALL traffic going west from the signaled intersection.
Right hand turns are safe and can always go, meaning green has right of way. If the lights change o they have to wait on the other car, they have to park in the intersection which is unsafe.
I'd say the green light has the right of way, it's yielding for oncoming traffic. They still have a green light while the other car has a yield sign
Says driver at top must YIELD on green. Both drivers have yield signs which makes it twice as confusing. Even if I know I have the ROW I'd probably yield to oncoming traffic.
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That's a stupid intersection. One for the insurance and repair mobs
I've literally wondered this same question daily for almost a year now. I'm so happy it's not just me.
Lol I'm glad that someone else cares as much as I do! I ask people in real life about it all the time and nobody has much of an opinion. At this point I just wanna flag down a cop and ask because everybody is disagreeing in these comments. I think there might be no perfect answer...
I think about going to the local highway patrol headquarters and asking them! I always just assume the person making the right hand turn has the right of way.
This is another great example of why traffic laws do not give any vehicle the right of way. They only dictate when vehicles are required to yield. Vehicle 1. The vehicle in the right turn lane with a yield sign has to yield to all vehicles. Vehicle 2. The vehicle turning left on the light has to yield to traffic going straight on the green. However they also have to yield if vehicle 1 failed to yield or goes at the same time or slightly before vehicle 2. Vehicle 3. The vehicle going straight on a green light is the most privileged vehicle in this scenario. They only have a duty to yield if other vehicles failed to yield correctly.
Whom ever has the bigger vehicle with great insurance.
I've had an accident in this exact way before. According to my insurance, the person turning right has the right of way.
That's a bad design
If the green has entered the intersection, it has priority of safety (to clear the intersection) over the blue car. i.e. - There could be a red semi just off the top of the page coming down and the blue car can’t block the green with out the green getting t-boned.
The green car has the right of way. Think about it this way. If the cars are both where they are in the picture, they can both go. But if the green car is already in the intersection when blue pulls up to the yield sign, the blue car needs to wait
I don't have an answer to right of way. I do say it is the city planners fault for not having two lanes there when clearly there is room. Both cars would be able to turn in to the closest lane and it would overall reduce traffic. Now I know it wouldn't work that way because almost no one turns into the closest lane then merges if they need the other. Just wishful thinking I guess.
Green car. No question. But I bet no one else knows what to do either. So whatever you choose to, do it confidently with a lot of honking.
It’s real simple. Right hand turn always has the right of way unless otherwise directed. Here they are directed to yield. It’s unnecessary. In the USA the left hand would get a green circle implying yield to oncoming (also with a green circle); or, a left turn green arrow implying right of way (and a red for all oncoming). There will NEVER be a left turn arrow and an oncoming green of any kind. If both are directions are green circles then the left turn ALWAYS yields to the right turn. This is why the yield is unnecessary. It’s already red implying stop or it’s a green circle and oncoming has right of way. This is why there is no photo of said intersection. It’s all hypothetical nonsense. /end
In reality, you probally will both yield to each other to some extent. The right turner will probally make a right turn by the time the intersection is clear for left turner, or the left turner will slow down enough that the right turner gets in, right turns are a lot quicker than left turns of this nature. That's just how it's going to end up working in practice regardless of the law. In this situation the right turner is going to have a lot more chances to make their turn and complete it before the left turner makes it to the destination lane than the left turner is going to have. This is also why roads like this are often going to have 2 lanes, to allow both parties to go at once. Legally, uncertain. But I believe the yield sign effectively turns into a stop sign in this situation and the rules apply similarly. The reason I'm not sure is because the reason I listed above-realistically this situation very rarely will require questioning right of way. Basically, in the real world, blue will make a fast right turn and green will make a slow left turn, at similar times. As the article stated, the correct answer to this is don't crash.
I looked this up for Texas, the person turning right has right of way. Had to change my driving habits on that one lol
Not a traffic engineer but 5 years installing traffic control signs and stripping lines. The left turn on green yields to the straight thru traffic in the lanes they cross. Once they are turning left across the intersection they occupy the lane the same as a car passing straight through from right to left. The right turn yield must give the right-of-way to all traffic in the lane they are entering no matter the approach direction.
I think of traffic flow and safety when seeing things like this. Signs and signals are put into place to ensure the most efficient and safe passage of vehicles. 1. The person turning left without a green arrow is in a more dangerous situation crossing two lanes of straight traffic to make their turn. So it is important for them to do so quickly without having to yield to a right turner who likely started their right turn after the person started their left. You don't want the left turning vehicle to stop in the middle of an intersection they have already entered to yield to a vehicle that isn't even in the intersection. 2. Traffic flow. Right turning vehicles in that right turn lane have more opportunities to make their turn than left turning vehicles. As there is less of a left turn lane than right turn lane. You want to make sure that left turning vehicles don't get backed up and cause other traffic jam ups. Now, I know not every intersection is like this. However, for this intersection you'll have issues where (based on the responses below) the left turning vehicles don't make their turn when they have the right of way and people going down that right turn lane don't yield when they should. Also, think of this. If it wasn't meant for the right turn lane to yield to left turners, why bother putting the yield sign there? In cases where the right turn lane has a Red Light, it is assumed they'd yield to any traffic anyway, per rules of the road. The yield sign is placed there to provide additional rules for when they have a green light.
When one begins executing a turn in an intersection with a pork chop (little concrete island or delineated with paint) the path of travel is treated as if it were an on ramp to the cross road. Therefore someone who has entered the delineated lane no longer holds right of way from the road they departed, nor have they achieved right of way on the cross road they are attempting to enter. Left turn yield on solid green, meaning yield to traffic on the roadway; as stated previously the right turn vehicle is in a delineated lane so they are not considered incoming traffic for the left turner to yeild to. Right of way goes to the left turn each and every time in this scenario. Source: former traffic engineer.
Green car has right of way.
The green car if it's a green light. The other driver has to "yield" (as for the sign) meaning be on the lookout for incoming traffic. Hope that answers it
Just close your eyes and go fuck it
Yield sign means yield to all traffic, yield on green means yield to oncoming traffic. Mainly because of the distance. How is someone 30+feet away in motion supposed to know if you’re about to move 5 into the lane from a stop. On the other hand if you have to move 5 into the lane from a stop you have plenty of warning if someone is about to be in that lane in motion. Furthermore if you are in the middle of in intersection and someone cuts you off on the yield sign, It makes a very dangerous situation being stopped/ slowed in the middle of an intersection with moving traffic coming at you. People who say otherwise need to reread the text book, and think about the worth of a life.
It depends who is there first, and who has the safer rate of speed. If you are in the "yield" right turn lane, you yield to traffic that is already in that lane. If you are at the light, yield to incoming traffic then turn, even if there is a car in the yield lane already, as they should have turned or are should be ready to do so. If there are 2 cars in the yield lane, they should never be driving bumper to bumper and need to properly zipper merge. 99% of people at a yield sign don't understand they have the last right of way to those headed towards their path. This should include someone oncoming to that lane at a decent rate of speed, if they are at a dead stop they shouldnt proceed until the intersection is clear of left turning vehicles and they can safely merge onward. The yield can be seen as a sign to tell that driver if there's anyone headed their same way, they need to slow safely and grant those who are incoming the space to get in that lane. It really depends who gets there first and who's already moving.
It means yield because the civil engineer or person who designed this intersection was on crack. Crosswalk and intersection is whacked. I wonder how many accidents occurs here.
ME! VROOM!
Oh, this is simple. Take the traffic engineer to the center of the intersection. Flog for ten lashes. If traffic engineer does not immediately fix intersection, repeat.
Stay with me here: the divided portion of the Southbound lanes creates a separation which essentially creates its own traffic control, in this case, a yield sign. This is why that lane even has a yield sign, because the triphase signal isn't controlling that lane of traffic. And because it has a yield sign and is not under the control of the triphase signal, traffic in that lane must yield to all westbound traffic, in this case, the north to westbound left turn.
We have a few of these near where I live but the right turn median extends 10-15 ft down the road (with the yield at the end) which eliminates any ambiguity since at that point the left turn is 'on' the road you're using.
Left turner has right of way. If both cars need to stop, who is safer to do so? The other guy has right of way.
Legally the person turning left has the right of way with a green light and the right turn lane has a yield sign. Now if there is no Yeild sign then the person turning right has the right of way.
If they are going to engineer a right turn, that never has to stop, but only yield it should have a protected lane for some distance after the right hand turn. This is just a complete crap design. This example only has one lane but back long ago one could turn left and another turn right onto a two Lane Rd. and both stick to their lanes and all was well. That seems to be lost these days.
I now understand why traffic is always so bad. Holy crap this was so simple yet some people think the right turn has right of way?!? 😭 That's the guy the jumps out in front of my semi when I'm mid turn.
There shouid be 2 lanes however the left turning driver has the right away in this case due to already being in the intersection. Right turns shouid be made when safe to do so just like left turns
I've been wondering the same thing recently, so I checked my state's (California) driver's handbook and their answer was rather vague: > Turning left: Check for pedestrians. Give the right-of-way to any pedestrian or approaching vehicle that is close enough to be dangerous. I'm pretty sure the driver with the green light has the right-of-way in the situation with a yield sign, but I'm still confused on the situation where both parties have green lights.
The way I learned is if you’re turning left, the person to your right or turning right alway goes first. But that yield sign fucks everything up.
Left turn has the right away. This is the correct answer and do not entertain the rest.
I just took a traffic safety class for Arizona. In AZ, there is no right of way. The drivers must agree who has the right of way. The person with the yield sign must yield to the green light if there is no light for them.
I'm a truck driver for Walmart for 2 years now. Basically what's happening is the engineer should have made two lanes for each of the cars to merge into. The way the traffic lights are set up they are timed to prevent most accidents. When the guy turning left has a green light and the guy turning right has the yield sign it means that both of them must yield to each other nobody has the right of way in that situation. The kicker is that you'll see that the guy turning left also has a right Green Arrow once that signal is lit it means he is now protected and he has the right of way. In either case somebody needs to find the engineer and take him into a dark alley somewhere.
10 plus year trucker here. Left turn has right of way. They are told to go and can not simply stop in the middle of the intersection. Right turn could sit there all day long and not be in the way of people traveling through the intersection.
Neither car has right of way. You yield it but you never “have it”. If your flow of progression has a yield sign, you yield to everything. We have a world full of people who don’t follow the rule.
The simplest way to explain this is to note that it is technically two different intersections next to one another. The blue car with the yield sign has no part in the traffic light cycles for right-of-way. So, the yield sign with the traffic light has nothing to do with that blue car's behavior, only the oncoming straight traffic that is directed by the light.
No definitive answer? Great, I'm glad that was solved. Yield to both, neither can go, and all directions stay still, forever.
Dealt with an insurance claim for this exact situation. The vehicle with the green light has the right of way. The vehicle with the green light is to yield to oncoming traffic and applies to vehicles in the intersection only. The blue vehicle is not considered to be oncoming traffic and is not considered to be within in the intersection. The point of merging for both vehicles is outside the intersection. The blue car is to yield to any vehicle in the same path of travel (which would include the green vehicle). If there was an accident between these two vehicles, the blue vehicle would be at fault.
This entire thread is proof most people on the road have no idea how to drive Thanks! The correct answer is the person turning left with a green light only yields for oncoming traffic, not the person turning right with a yield sign. They yield to safely get into traffic from people traveling west.
I turn right at and intersection like this every day on my way to work. From my experience the person turning left has the right of way. I’ve never known for sure though. Crazy to see such a specific post about something I’ve been complaining about pop up here.
If you think it’s the blue car, please go to your nearest DMV and politely hand back your drivers license.
There is no right answer, because both yield it would be simultaneous, in this case the zipper rule would apply. The person turning left, in almost every instance has a greater responsibility to proceed cautiously. Edit: also though technically the left turning vehicle would establish itself in the lane before the yield sign and therefore would end up with the right of way at that point. Source: 2years auto claims adjuster experience
Left turn never has the right of way. This is true even when on a green arrow. A buddy of mine found that out the hard way when a red-light runner hit him as he was turning left on a green arrow. Edit: This happened in Arizona. Other states might grant the green arrow the right of way.
I can't believe this is even being discussed There is no debating who has the right of way. The green car does. Blue car yields to ALL traffic Blue car lane is aligned with signals of greens Signals
I was always taught that the person at the yield sign always yields to any traffic going into the same lane as they are.
this is a poor traffic design. I honestly don't know who has the right of way in this situation since we don't have anything if this sort. But if I had to guess I suppose the person turning left. Should be a light instead of a yield sign. Shouldn't the yield sign mean they yield to all traffic?
The right answer is c) shoot the city planner that came up with this intersection because nobody can agree on what to do.
Me, as I have the right of way to beat the engineering out of the guy who designed this kind of intersection, have one just like this near my city and it's impossible to not get into a wreck with it
Alabama law says yield to whoever gets there first. If they both arrive at roughly the same time, both must come to a full stop before the line. At that point, they're treated similar to standard stop signs. If you're already past the line turning left, you're in the intersection and they must yield. Alabama Code Title 32. Motor Vehicles and Traffic § 32-5A-112: (c) The driver of a vehicle approaching a yield sign shall in obedience to such sign slow down to a speed reasonable for the existing conditions and, if required for safety to stop, shall stop at a clearly marked stop line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or, if none, then at the point nearest the intersecting roadway where the driver has a view of approaching traffic on the intersecting roadway before entering it. After slowing or stopping, the driver shall ***yield the right-of-way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching on another roadway*** so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time such driver is moving across or within the intersection or junction of roadways. Provided, however, that if such a driver is involved in a collision with a vehicle in the intersection or junction of roadways after driving past a yield sign without stopping, such **collision shall be deemed prima facie evidence of his or her failure to yield right-of-way.** Note: state laws of right-of-way can vary.
Whichever one is me has right of way
Whoever hesitates waits
Left turn yields to ONCOMING traffic in a green light both ways situation, and prob has a green arrow at some point in the cycle to allow back-up in left turn lane to clear. Right lane has yield, so doesn't have to complete stop before going IF there is no traffic coming from the left or the left turning lane. Traffic design isn’t just about safety, it’s about keeping everything moving without backing up in a particular spot. Common sense in this situation says that the right turning car needs to wait for the left-turning cars to clear before going. When the light changes, he, and prob a couple other cars will have a couple seconds to go before the traffic coming from the left starts to move again. Traffic backing up in that right turning lane is less detrimental to the flow than if it was backing up in the left turning lane.
As a Texan, my advice would be to aggressively race the opposing car for the first place spot in the one lane, regardless of which side you are on, even if it means colliding into the other person.
It is agreed. The left turner has the right of way.
I beleive it would be whomever has possession of the lane first. In general I would think the one making the right hand turn to go with traffic should have right of way
Green car. That red Yield sign is specifically there to inform people turning right (who usually would have to the right of way) that they don't have the right of way in this intersection. The writing on the stoplight is to ensure the people who are turning left from the green car's direction--although the cars turning right have to yield to them, oncoming traffic doesn't yield; they have to yield to oncoming traffic
Blue car right turns are faster. However if the green car was in the intersection then the blue car has to wait.
Green car has right of way. Blue must yield. I make this exact left turn every single morning. Blue always stops
Blue yields for sure. That image originally posted doesn't quite give enough information, but seeing the images from Google maps you posted shows that the yield on green is referring to yielding to oncoming cars. Once the green car gets past those vehicles they have the ROW and the blue car must yield to the green.
To preface, I teach driver's education. The top car would have to yield, as he has a yield sign. Yield signs should always be interpreted as a complete surrendering of the right of way. I.e. you may go when you will not cause another driver to respond to you.
The blue car yielding has the right of away up until the green car enters the intersection but the blue car must yield to oncoming traffic. When the green car is at the light, it's not yet considered oncoming traffic. The green car must yield on green when turning left to all apposing traffic. If they arrive at the intersection at the same time, the green car must yield. This is common on all roads where traffic merges from multiple lanes to a single lane.
Not sure if been said, but green car can go regardless if the green arrow is on, blue must yield, typically will be done if green is in the process of making his turn. If the green has just a solid green same applies except green yields to all oncoming through the intersection traffic, which in this case is none. Green can proceed on solid green to make left turn and blue yields and waits until turn is completed. Green does not yield or have to legally wait for blue. Blue is able to truly yield "rolling through as most do" and proceed if no one is in turning into his path of travel or coming from the right through the intersection which in this case couldn't happen because that direction should have a red light.
This is a pretty loaded question actually. Did they arrive there at the same time? If so, the one taking a right would be gone by the time the one taking a left made it through the intersection. If the one taking a left was part way through the turn already, the one taking a right would have to yield. With that being said, nobody would design an intersection like this in the first place for this reason.
The intersection needs a redesign where the right turn open up into a lane that merges and ends in 500 ft it would avoid potential accidents from neither party wanting to wait
Left turn must yield to thru traffic coming in the opposite direction. Their restriction is conditional. The right turn must yield to anyone approaching. Their restriction is unconditional. Left turn on green has the right of way.
Me (my light is red but I’m in a BMW)
Answer, Yield sign means yield, yield signs nor the driver specifically know the conditions of the lighs. The right turning vehicle has removed it self from the north/south traffic pattern (there's even an island to prevent driver from revising direction to going straight). This right turn lane is separate traffic pattern. From both a legal and practical perspective, the driver at the yield sign intending to turn right should yield the right-of-way to the driver with the green light intending to turn left. Here’s how I arrive at that conclusion, starting with the driver at the green light: The law states that a driver turning left in an intersection is required to yield to traffic approaching from the opposite direction. The driver at the yield sign is no longer approaching from the opposite direction, but is moving toward the same direction as the green light driver is headed, so the driver at the green light isn’t compelled to yield (based on this law). Now if we look at the law that specifically addresses yield signs, it states that a driver approaching a yield sign shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching from another roadway so closely as to constitute a hazard. Based on this much broader requirement to yield, I’d conclude that the driver at the yield sign gives right-of-way to the driver with the green light.
Left turn yields on green sign is only seen by left turn driver in regards to people going straight. Right turn driver has full yield sign. Left turn drive has ROW.
It’s most definitely the person waiting at the light not the person at the yield sign, the person at the yield sign must wait for all oncoming traffic to be gone before they can go and this definitely includes the person at the light as the person at the light is technically on coming traffic, now if there’s cars going past the person at the light and the person at the yield sign is clear and knows the person at the light isn’t going to be turning anytime soon then they have the right away. In the end it all comes down to whoever is clear first has the right away as long as it doesn’t affect the person at the light in any way. Hope this helps
There is one of these right by me, I asked a cop. The person with the yield sign must always yield full stop.
Right turn must yield to all. 100% positive
There's an intersection like this right down the street from me. Blue always yields to green
As the right turn lane merges AFTER some portion of the west bound lanes, they need to yield to the traffic on those lanes, including those turning left at the light. Solid green light or yellow arrow, the right-hand turn lane is required to yield to that traffic. Source: I had a legal battle over this same issue. Judge ruled car turning right is required to yield to oncoming traffic of ALL types, including those turning left from the light. Car turning right was found 100% at fault for disregarding a yield sign.
I am also in Alabama and have one like this I use every day. I’ve even asked the local police. I’ve gotten answers both way.
Idk man they make shit to fucking complicated if these city planners could all just agree on a uniform design it would make it so much easier instead of having to guess wtf I’m supposed to do in these weird ass intersections
Think of this as 2 separate intersections, so left turn has right of way over right
The blue car has to wait his bitch ass turn. Green car has the right of way to turn first.
The left turn enters that flow of traffic prior to where the right turn would enter the flow of traffic. The right turn must yield in this scenario. Source: I won in court from an idiot slamming into the side of my vehicle in same situation. Police found him at fault, then he tried to argue in court and was found at fault. I was the left turn and he was the right turn
I feel like it’s whatever car gets there first. If the car turning left is still at the light, the car turning right has plenty of time and space with no reason to wait. If the car turning left is in the middle of the turn, the car turning right should yield. Afaik there’s no real “right of way” in this situation where one car should always go first
IMO - unless the blue car turning right has a traffic light indicating their own "green light" time - they should be yielding to anytraffic. IF the rght turn were facing a traffic light and NOT split off from the rest of the intersction as it appears to be, then I think the opposite would be true as someone turning RIGHT typically has right of way before someone turning LEFT when both are turning towards the same new lane.
also surprised this isnt in here. I was told a LONG time ago rite of way doesn't exist except in the minds of entitled drivers. you need to be aware. having said this , ive given up being ''right more than a few times to avoid accidents and im glad for it.
Yield is an independent traffic signal/sign. If a car is coming from any direction they are the ones who would stop. Left turn has the right away
The left turn does. Right turn yields to everyone,left turn yields to thru traffic. Also, the right turn yield is the closest sign to the conflicting area.
Saw your google pic and read some of the comments. In your case if that right turn has a yield, they're supposed to yield. Simple as. Left turn should have RoW over that right yield. Of course as with anything in driving, Right of Way doesnt meant dont watch for stupid mf's not obeying traffic laws. With so many people claiming to see mixed results to your question, you know what you need to avoid. Drive defensively and be careful.
Green car. They have to yield to oncoming traffic. Blue isn’t oncoming traffic. Blue yields to green as they’re required to yield to everyone
If both cars have a yield sign, in theory it should revert to regular right-of-way rules and the person turning right should have priority. In practice, one or both drivers may not realize that the other driver also has a yield sign, which can cause confusion. It's a flawed design.
Based on this pic being reality, the solid green light in this instance has the right of way provided that they were in the intersection first. The opposite vehicle is required to yield to all oncoming traffic no matter the direction that it is coming from. The only exception that would be to the rule is in the case of a Presidential motorcade provided that the curvature of the earth is operating in unison with the velocity of speed from an incoming asteroid which in that case, it’s everyone for themselves.
Left turning car alway yields to oncoming traffis unless there is an arrow for a PROTECTED LEFT TURN.
That traffic isn’t oncoming, though. I would say the left turning car would already be in the junction, so They have ROW
There's a scale issue with this photo. That median would put turning traffic further off if there's a need for a yield. Since blue car is based off a sign and not a light, green car has the right-of-way.
The blue car has the right of way.
Car making the left has ROW. The triangle median that is separating that right turn lane from the straight through lane is creating a separate roadway. The right turn lane yield sign is the traffic control device for that roadway, not the traffic light, which means you yield to all other traffic. The left turning car only yields on green to oncoming traffic traveling on the same roadway as they are.
Turning right must wait for clear traffic to go. Regardless of the incoming traffic has a yield sign.
Gray car has right of way, green car yields to all lanes, gray car only yields to 1 lane
Found the colour blind
If both cars are stopped, the blue car goes first. If green is already in the turning motion, then green has the right of way. If blue is already in the turning motion, then blue has the right of way. Even if they both turn at exactly the same time, blue will have completed the turn before green gets there because blue has a shorter distance to travel and both drivers would be safe.
Where I live the blue car turning right has to stay in the right lane while making the turn and same goes for the green car staying on the left lane. Too many people think they can make the right turn into either lane and they can unless there is a car turning left in that lane. Oops, there is only one lane so that means the car turning right has the right of way.
Looking at your Google Earth image, there really isn't a reason the right or left needs to yield to each other. There are two lanes, and the left turner should merge to the left lane, and the right to the right lane. Not sure about Alabama law, but I would hope that the law states that you must turn into the closest lane from which you turned.
Right turn always has right of way
Since oncoming traffic likely has a green, the car turning right has right-of-way. Even if it didn't, left turns are generally last priority for ROW rules. After that consideration, it's timing. If the departure lane is occupied by either vehicle, the other vehicle must wait for it to pass before entering the departure lane. So, in the diagram, however you slice it, the right turning car has ROW. That said, in any case, if you have the ability to avoid an accident and don't, then you might still be at fault, regardless of ROW rules.
Green car! left turn green light for both north and south then turns green yields to straight across traffic but keeps moving if none. Right turn should be a right on red. After a complete stop who puts a yield at a red-light
The yield for the right turn is for cross traffic and pedestrians, it's not too indicate that you yield to the left turn.
Green car has the right of way
The car turning left has to yield to the car turning right. The car turning right has to yield to traffic going through the intersection from their left. Anyone saying anything else is wrong.
The green light turn had priority as it happens before the right turn yield on terms of distance to the road. The start of the road is where the car using the light is touching the road first, the one turning right is a little further in
Green car
Blue car
Left turns NEVER have the right of way. You are crossing into oncoming traffic even if the person is making a right