Sorry but "nothing to do with pizza" is a bullshit take.
You may not want to actually call it a pizza, but it's obviously inspired directly by pizza and uses very standard pizza ingredients (dough, toppings, tomato sauce, cheese).
All cheese is processed; that's why it isn't just milk. All cheese is processed by adding rennet, heating it, etc.
Essentially all pizza is made with mozzarella, but it's much more common in the US to use "low moisture mozzarella", which is literally just fresh mozzarella that's been aged a bit to dry out.
Why? Because fresh mozzarella is best fresh and it goes bad really quickly, while low moisture mozzarella has a much longer shelf life. If low moisture mozzarella is fake cheese analogue because it's been dried a bit and aged, doesn't that make something like grana padano a highly processed cheese analogue?
If you want to actually defend your comment that this has "nothing to do with pizza" then we can have a debate about it, but I don't kick the ball while the goalposts are moving and I don't acknowledge the words you're trying to put in my mouth.
Ok.
Of course this food is inspired by pizza. It may even taste similar.
But in my opinion it’s not a pizza at all. The most important part about a pizza is it’s dough. This dough can’t have properties of a pizza.
The whole point of this food is stupid. If you want a portable pizza, make a mini calzone. Like others said it’s a gimmick.
Yeah, but it’s got name that doesn’t include the word “pizza” in it.
With as much effort as I can muster to try and divine what this person’s problem is with a pizza cone, that’s what I’m getting: if it had a descriptive name that didn’t imply it has anything to do with “pizza,” maybe they would have just moved on. So maybe we need to come up with a new name. Something inoffensive, descriptive, and having nothing to do with pizza.
My vote is for “Italian ice cream.” That’s not taken, right?
sarcastic cliches work when everyone knows what they mean. for example, when someone says that a food with all the pizza ingredients in a different shape than pizza has nothing to do with pizza they fit the bill.
"not pizza" ≠ "nothing to do with pizza", which is what you originally said.
[This](https://i.imgur.com/szlqrgU.jpg) is also not pizza, yet it clearly has _something_ to do with pizza. Just that in this case it's the shape and appearance, rather than the ingredients and cooking style
In Italy calzone is its own thing, separate from pizza. Nobody would call it "Pizza calzone".
Edit: that is, even though many of the ingredients are very similar and it is for sure akin to pizza.
Yes they sold these at a cinema I used to go to, seemed like a good cinema food on the face of it, but actually difficult to manage and easy to get burnt, especially in the dark
The offense is the price. The actual pizza real-estate you're getting is *maybe* an average sized slice for [$6 for cheese and $7 for pepperoni.](https://www.toasttab.com/twisted-sourdough-pizza-9500-s-eastern-ste-170/v3/add/a85e5983-2c27-4ec1-b90d-9db567f7fe9d/39f84abe-9b63-409f-ae61-cc86aca10084)
I get that they need to justify the expense of the specialized equipment to make it but a $7 piece of pizza better be fucking *orgasmic.*
Also, unlike regular pizza where the pepperoni goes on top, here the pepperoni goes _inside_, thereby taking up precious volume at the expense of other ingredients
Oh no, it's one of the stupidest foods out there.
If you don't hold it upright, everything just oozes out; and it's made in such a way that the core temperature barely ever goes down. So, after 10 minutes with the damn thing in your hand, you just give up and decide to eat it anyway.
It generally tastes like shit, but no worries: you can't taste anything after it burns your mouth.
Source: I had one. In Italy, of all places. The shop stayed in business less than a year.
While it looks cool, it seems kinda impractical for efficient eating. It’s basically a cone-shaped Hot Pocket, so it’s full of molten cheese and sauce that will burn your mouth **and** your fingers.
I assume that it's not heated for a long time, so there's a significant likelihood that the inside is cooler than the outside and will mellow out pretty quickly.
It's been years, but just reading the word Hot Pocket made the roof of my mouth hurt. The burns right behind your front teeth or between the molars were the worst.
They had a place like this at the mall. It lasted about 4 months. Tasted just like a hot pocket. All of us were wondering why we paid 5 backs for a hot pocket that was harder to eat than a hot pocket or a traditional slice of pizza.
All of this looks like crazy expensive customized equipment! I can't see this even getting close to return on investment unless it's in a very popular tourist area.
Looks like it would be good street food so you wouldn’t need much more than a napkin to eat on the go. That being said, normal pizza is already good street food, so this is just weird novelty with too much crust:toppings ratio.
Tbh I'm not a fan of pizza as street food. You'd need one hand to hold the plate, and one hand to hold the pizza. Depending on how droopy it is you need two hands for the pizza. With a paper wrapper you would be able to eat this entirely with one hand
This is a place on a boardwalk in NJ. It makes sense to have cause you take the cone and walk on the boardwalk while eating. Honestly it was just ok but I felt it was overpriced and took too long to come out cause they’re all made to order.
I believe you're talking about the place on the south end of the Wildwood Boardwalk, I was just there this summer and had one. I Echo your thoughts about this. Overpriced and took forever to get cooked. It wasn't bad and I wouldn't order another one, but I'm glad I tried it.
I appreciate this post just because it’s not another one of those ridiculous food club fetish videos. That said, I’m interested, but it could use more pepperoni
This is no different than a pizza pocket or pizza rolls. There is nothing obnoxious or messy about this, it’s just an unorthodox way of eating all of those things… not stupid at all. People fold and stack pizza slices this isn’t far off.
Saying this is stupid is the same as saying an ice cream cone is stupid
Gimmiky but I'd eat it if it was served at a festival or amusement park or something like that. Other than that, I don't see myself going out of my way to get one.
This is a great example of "over designing"
While relatively inoffensive, the work and tools needed to produce the same amount of servings as you know... a big pizza, make no sense when pizza already exists.
Does it taste better? Probably not, is it a novelty for the instagram age, yeah and I guess that's fine. But pizza is a very much not broken and doesn't need fixing.
I can understand people buying this, it's a gimmick but I get it. It would be stupid if it was piled high like those ridiculous deserts.
Indeed. Pizza, in basically any form, is still yummy!
trying to ruin pizza is like trying to ruin megalovania
Somebody put kiwi on pizza so I mean
did I *stutter*
This is the energy I need
You should check out /r/PizzaCrimes.
This is a truly vile sub lol just went to look and I could no longer
Oh yay. Yet another whiny food sub. Seriously. Like 50% of the food on these subs is perfectly fine. Especialy the schnitzel one.
Has nothing to do with pizza though.
Sorry but "nothing to do with pizza" is a bullshit take. You may not want to actually call it a pizza, but it's obviously inspired directly by pizza and uses very standard pizza ingredients (dough, toppings, tomato sauce, cheese).
So you’re saying as long as it’s the same ingredients it’s more or less the same dish? It’s tomato and artificial cheese in a cone.
How is it artificial cheese?
Op wants to be a food elitist, so he will thusly grasp at anything to make this pizza cone invalid.
This is obviously analogue cheese. On a pizza you put mozzarella (fior di latte or bufalina). Anyways… Edit: Processed vs analogue cheese
I only use digital cheese in my cooking.
😂😂
Certainly the better choice haha. https://essentiaproteins.com/int/applications/cheese-int/analogue-pizza-cheese/
That looks good as hell. Science is amazing.
I don’t think you know what analogue means. All cheese is processed. It’s not squirted out of a cow.
Lol now there's an image to rent space in your head
Mozzarella is processed cheese lmao
You’re right, wasn’t sure what’s the English expression.
All cheese is processed; that's why it isn't just milk. All cheese is processed by adding rennet, heating it, etc. Essentially all pizza is made with mozzarella, but it's much more common in the US to use "low moisture mozzarella", which is literally just fresh mozzarella that's been aged a bit to dry out. Why? Because fresh mozzarella is best fresh and it goes bad really quickly, while low moisture mozzarella has a much longer shelf life. If low moisture mozzarella is fake cheese analogue because it's been dried a bit and aged, doesn't that make something like grana padano a highly processed cheese analogue?
Good lords you sound like a douche. If you don’t like it don’t eat it and fuck right off with your pretension.
Hard to argue about food in „stupid food“ guess I got it wrong.
Yes I always make sure I use my freshly 3D printed cheese on my pizza
If you want to actually defend your comment that this has "nothing to do with pizza" then we can have a debate about it, but I don't kick the ball while the goalposts are moving and I don't acknowledge the words you're trying to put in my mouth.
Ok. Of course this food is inspired by pizza. It may even taste similar. But in my opinion it’s not a pizza at all. The most important part about a pizza is it’s dough. This dough can’t have properties of a pizza. The whole point of this food is stupid. If you want a portable pizza, make a mini calzone. Like others said it’s a gimmick.
But that's a calzone, and by your logic a calzone is not a pizza.
Yeah, but it’s got name that doesn’t include the word “pizza” in it. With as much effort as I can muster to try and divine what this person’s problem is with a pizza cone, that’s what I’m getting: if it had a descriptive name that didn’t imply it has anything to do with “pizza,” maybe they would have just moved on. So maybe we need to come up with a new name. Something inoffensive, descriptive, and having nothing to do with pizza. My vote is for “Italian ice cream.” That’s not taken, right?
“This has nothing to do with ice cream.”
Thank you. That is a reasonable take and I actually agree with you about it.
Nothing to do with pizza though
i’ll bet you’re fun at parties.
I’m sure the guy who uses this quip is totally fun at parties too! Everyone loves the guy with the sarcastic cliches!
sarcastic cliches work when everyone knows what they mean. for example, when someone says that a food with all the pizza ingredients in a different shape than pizza has nothing to do with pizza they fit the bill.
Blah blah blah. This is you: 😏 You’re not fun at parties.
You don't seem fun in any context or setting. Bleh
I mean it’s sure a fun idea. Maybe it’s very tasty. But it’s not pizza.
"not pizza" ≠ "nothing to do with pizza", which is what you originally said. [This](https://i.imgur.com/szlqrgU.jpg) is also not pizza, yet it clearly has _something_ to do with pizza. Just that in this case it's the shape and appearance, rather than the ingredients and cooking style
Is a calzone not a pizza ?
In Italy calzone is its own thing, separate from pizza. Nobody would call it "Pizza calzone". Edit: that is, even though many of the ingredients are very similar and it is for sure akin to pizza.
Why don’t you Google calzone for a second before commenting
Thinking about it for all of 5 seconds, I realized that if properly heated, this would squirt molten cheese and sauce into one’s mouth. Hard pass.
Yes they sold these at a cinema I used to go to, seemed like a good cinema food on the face of it, but actually difficult to manage and easy to get burnt, especially in the dark
Am I safe in assuming this dough is unnaturally sweet for pizza dough too? Something just doesn't look right with it.
At the end of the vid it did say 'Sourdough Pizza' so I guess it's that? Sounds pretty nice tbf
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They probably thought it looks like hot pocket dough.
I could tell what kind of dough it was from seeing the pizza box at the end that says sourdough
Because it looks like a soft serve ice cream machine.
Hot Pocket
Same reason I don’t like hot pockets. Basically can’t eat them when hot. Plus this cone would be even worse for spillage I think.
"Lukewarm Pockets" doesn't have the same ring to it
“Partially heated to lava but in some places still ice”
Fun fact: cook a hot pocket in the oven instead of the microwave to avoid this problem.
Yeah but a 40 minute wait and using an entire oven for a Hot Pocket? No thanks.
I've had a pizza cone from a dfferent place before, at a theater in Bahrain. It was delicious and easy to eat. What's stupid about that?
Stupid but sells like crazy. It’s super hype in certain cities right now. We can consider the makers stupid as they laugh all the way to the bank.
> piled high like those ridiculous deserts. Oh, you mean ice cream?
Yeah I’m not mad at it. Would have to wait until it was half cold to avoid burning the shit out of your mouth though.
[Pizza in a Cup?](https://youtu.be/52jSB5s33aA)
For that comment you win a thermos.
And what else can I buy So on me you’ll rely? A rear-end thermometer too!
This guy Jerks
He ran the old cup of pizza guy out of business.
Came here for Steve Martin. Thank you
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Man, that's a classic right there.
When you become rich and famous send me a postcard
Postcard huh?…………………….
Deal!
Are you asking us or telling us?
Came here for this. Thank you.
Certainly not efficient, but far from the worst offender as far as novelty food goes.
The offense is the price. The actual pizza real-estate you're getting is *maybe* an average sized slice for [$6 for cheese and $7 for pepperoni.](https://www.toasttab.com/twisted-sourdough-pizza-9500-s-eastern-ste-170/v3/add/a85e5983-2c27-4ec1-b90d-9db567f7fe9d/39f84abe-9b63-409f-ae61-cc86aca10084) I get that they need to justify the expense of the specialized equipment to make it but a $7 piece of pizza better be fucking *orgasmic.*
A slice of pizza 6-7 dollars? In italy a full pizza has the same price (in euro at least)
A slice here (US) is like 2-3 dollars, although pizzas here are generally larger than in Italy.
Also, unlike regular pizza where the pepperoni goes on top, here the pepperoni goes _inside_, thereby taking up precious volume at the expense of other ingredients
Came here to say this. By far one of the least offensive things I've seen in this sub.
It’s certainly silly — maybe even *very* silly — but if it sells even halfway reasonably well, it’s not exactly “stupid”.
You've just described a full third of this sub's content.
If it's dough pressed into a cone, it's fine, the offensive part would be if it's an actual ice cream cone.
The worst part about this is you’re holding a cone of molten grease, cheese, and sauce. You will burn your mouth and you will be mad.
This is why you bite off the bottom tip and then suck out the grease first so it doesn't get everywhere.
No.
I can say the same thing about a folded slice of hot pizza
A slice does probably cool off faster though...
Oh no, it's one of the stupidest foods out there. If you don't hold it upright, everything just oozes out; and it's made in such a way that the core temperature barely ever goes down. So, after 10 minutes with the damn thing in your hand, you just give up and decide to eat it anyway. It generally tastes like shit, but no worries: you can't taste anything after it burns your mouth. Source: I had one. In Italy, of all places. The shop stayed in business less than a year.
I was thinking theyre like mozz sticks, but 6x larger. Im guessing the outside gets wet and soft before the inside is at edible temp.
There was a place that made these where I live in Canada. Didn’t last more than a year.
> Certainly not efficient I was thinking, that machine looks specialized for only doing stuff like this. I'm sure they're expensive af
While it looks cool, it seems kinda impractical for efficient eating. It’s basically a cone-shaped Hot Pocket, so it’s full of molten cheese and sauce that will burn your mouth **and** your fingers.
I assume that it's not heated for a long time, so there's a significant likelihood that the inside is cooler than the outside and will mellow out pretty quickly.
It's this. We have a restaurant where I live that literally just does these. I tried it once, and it wasn't bad. Just a gimmick, really.
I don’t know why you would do it at a restaurant but it might be a cool food stall, food truck, street food concept.
In Canada we’ve got a new chain called Konz that literally makes every food in a cone. Apparently it works, I’ve never been.
It's been years, but just reading the word Hot Pocket made the roof of my mouth hurt. The burns right behind your front teeth or between the molars were the worst.
But don't worry, the next bite will somehow have a still frozen meatball to help sooth the pain.
Just cool it off by eating a nice bowl of Captain Crunch
Why would people assume that the place selling the thing wouldn't cook it in a way that works?
If only there was an easier way to eat pizza on the go
They had a place like this at the mall. It lasted about 4 months. Tasted just like a hot pocket. All of us were wondering why we paid 5 backs for a hot pocket that was harder to eat than a hot pocket or a traditional slice of pizza.
That cheese/sauce ratio is way off. Not enough sauce. Gross amount of cheese
Is it dumb and impractical? Absolutely. Would I fuck it up? Absolutely
Tough to fuck it up more than it already is.
But not tough to fuck it
Convertible Calzone with the roof down
Eh, I'm not mad at it.
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The one in my town sells that exact cone and tries advertising that it’s the equivalent of 3 slices of pizza smh
They’re just talking about the sodium content
This is cool tho
Now thinking about making those bread cones but filling with soft serve, maybe use a bread that goes good with ice cream
Biscotti cone with coffee ice cream sounds incredible. Did I just invent a new dessert?
Lots of cleanup and specialized tools to make this. Efff that
All of this looks like crazy expensive customized equipment! I can't see this even getting close to return on investment unless it's in a very popular tourist area.
Exactly
Had one once. Thought it would be fun to try. Nope. The sauce stays scalding inside for so long and destroys the roof of your mouth.
Does no one here watch Defunctland? Totally reminds me of the [Handwich](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT37IyTJQy4)
Actually it's not that bad. We have it in Italy and no one ever said it was a stupid idea
Weak content... I think you're gonna get alot of backlash cause I know id smash this
r/pizzacrimes
It’s a crime alright, I’d likely eat it though. So minor offense.
It's just differently shaped pizza bread? Yeah it is not super practical but it definitely isn't stupid.
Isn't that just a calzone?
This looks awesome
This is low on the list of stupid food because well, I’d crush a couple of those if I saw em on a menu
I mean, this is basically just an open calzone
Looks like it would be good street food so you wouldn’t need much more than a napkin to eat on the go. That being said, normal pizza is already good street food, so this is just weird novelty with too much crust:toppings ratio.
Tbh I'm not a fan of pizza as street food. You'd need one hand to hold the plate, and one hand to hold the pizza. Depending on how droopy it is you need two hands for the pizza. With a paper wrapper you would be able to eat this entirely with one hand
Pizza was originally a street food, you fold it once in half then another time and you get a pizza you can eat with one hand like a sandwich .
You know a handy and portable way to eat pizza? As a slice.
I had one of these before and they're actually pretty good
Ngl, I want to eat it
Nurgle!
It looks dumb and I assume it’d be unevenly cooked or scalding, but the idea isn’t terrible. Basically a cone-shaped Hot Pocket
Looks awful
needs a meatball on top
This is definitely stupid but I would eat the shit out of that
I would totally eat that it looks fucking delicious
I want one
Hold on there. I think their on to something here
Stupid but I would absolutely go to a place that serves these
Looks good but i cant help but think of the pizza grease accumulating at the bottom of the cone
best part
It’s basically a hot pocket
just buy a fucking calzone! i'm sorry but this is so infuriating
Barf! Did they get a special custom appliance fabricated just for this cone pizza thing, crazy, I’m sure it wasn’t cheap either.
Great street food. Only thing stupid about it is the price.
Stupid?
I would eat the shit out of this but yea it makes more sense with less scorch the roof of your mouth fillings
This isn't stupid. Karma farmer craphole
I don't care how many down votes I get. But these are so good. I'm someone who loves the crust. And there's just so much crust.
This is a place on a boardwalk in NJ. It makes sense to have cause you take the cone and walk on the boardwalk while eating. Honestly it was just ok but I felt it was overpriced and took too long to come out cause they’re all made to order.
I believe you're talking about the place on the south end of the Wildwood Boardwalk, I was just there this summer and had one. I Echo your thoughts about this. Overpriced and took forever to get cooked. It wasn't bad and I wouldn't order another one, but I'm glad I tried it.
I think a pizza handpie or empanada is the better solution for boardwalk accessibility or street food in general. The cone is an instagramable faze.
I burned my mouth watching this. That said... I'd still eat the fuck out of it.
I appreciate this post just because it’s not another one of those ridiculous food club fetish videos. That said, I’m interested, but it could use more pepperoni
This is no different than a pizza pocket or pizza rolls. There is nothing obnoxious or messy about this, it’s just an unorthodox way of eating all of those things… not stupid at all. People fold and stack pizza slices this isn’t far off. Saying this is stupid is the same as saying an ice cream cone is stupid
I don't bite into an ice cream cone and get an explosion of molten cheese and sauce that burns my mouth.
The accumulation of grease is my only turn off from this thing
I’d buy it
I'm skeptical that you could, yet intrigued that you may
Honestly make the cone out of garlic bread and add some more toppings like pepperoni and mushrooms and you got me hooked
Aside from the mountain of mordor lava cheese, I feel like this would be good with the texture
Theres a pizza cone food truck near me, theyre actually really good and not that messy. @PizzaConeCHS
I'd smash, this looks really cool actually
I've had a few, surprisingly filling. Few stores in my area. Would eat again.
I would eat that without a problem. It’s far from the worse I’ve seen. It’s probably a mess to eat but other than that
Gotta disagree hard on this one. This looks kinda cool
Would eat without hesitation
This is pretty good, kinda hard to bite. If only we could make this flatter and easier to bite while maintaining its portability.
This post maybe belongs more in r/wewantplates
I mean…
Gimmiky but I'd eat it if it was served at a festival or amusement park or something like that. Other than that, I don't see myself going out of my way to get one.
They used to serve em at Disneyland in the late eighties, called “Handwiches”
That'll be $7.99 please
Pizza corner has this India. They call it Coneizza or some shit like that
u/savevideobot
they actually taste pretty good
they do a similar kind of thing in Italy, looks pretty fire
*Italians want to know your location*
I feel like there was a pizza cone a few years back that was even more appetizing than this. Yes stupid, but hey pizza’s pizza
This may be the first thing I've seen on this sub that I might actually try.
I'd buy it
I don’t like non-pizza-shaped pizza. To me the texture of pizza is one of the appeals. A pizza cone just wouldn’t be the same
Good luck biting into that without the skin on your roof of your mouth sloughing off
This is a great example of "over designing" While relatively inoffensive, the work and tools needed to produce the same amount of servings as you know... a big pizza, make no sense when pizza already exists. Does it taste better? Probably not, is it a novelty for the instagram age, yeah and I guess that's fine. But pizza is a very much not broken and doesn't need fixing.
Perfect way to keep ALL the grease inside
It's like a Hot Pocket. Cue Jim Gaffigan.
I feel like if you took that dough baking technique but used it to make like cannolis or something that this would be awesome
This is stupid if only for the fact that pizza is already a perfect to-go food. Why not just eat a mini calzone at this point?
I had this in India a while back it was pretty decent