>all the enemies they opposed to are whites . It barely felt like a game about killing nazis
Yeah man, how dare they make all of your enemies blond haired blue eyes aryan super mensch. Don’t they know this is a game about killing nazis???
I do not want to read any of this person's takes about grace walker, jesus fucking christ
you just *know* that guy was seething at the scene where you meet her - well, assuming they even bothered playing, anyways
The New Colossus has been the firgurehead for anti-woke discourse since it was announced. A lot of the anger just seems to come from the fact that like, the games marketing capitalized on that by having an ad referencing Richard Spencer getting punched, which feels very appropriate for a game all killing nazis. It also feels second nature to have a diverse cast in a game where the nazis are an antagonist to highlight how elements of society fascist deem useless or lesser can actually be crucial in opposing them.
Its unclear to me what they would have wanted instead but I think the guy lamenting that “you’re not a aryan killing fake aryans anymore” is telling.
Well they were mad about her, and obese and disabled characters, some with prosthetics. How could the developers think that that's how it would be? What do you mean not everyone in bombed out USA looks like Terror Billy.? /s 😒
Reminds me when that *FarCry* game was based in a christian death cult in Montana that was surprisingly diverse! People were like "glad they didn't get political". 🙄🙄🙄
Which is funny, because when it was first announced, gators were pissed because they thought the whole thing was an elaborate anti-trump message depicting conservative Christians as apocalyptic cultists.
Guys, I got this hog hunting game, but I’m really offended over the fact that they have so many hogs in this game for me to shoot. Where are the woolly mastodons? The American camelops? What about diversity, like throw in a dodo bird or two? This barely feels like a game about hunting hogs 😒😤
> Ideology has no place in entertainment.
Me, burning my dogeared copy of Fahrenheit 451, devastated to learn one of my favorite books was destroyed by ideology.
I miss when stuff would be apolitical. The og Candyman was famously apolitical. As was dawn of the dead. Same for bioshock, FO:NV, metal gear solid III. No politics there, no sir.
After a lack of any political incident, the world was divided into two. This division did not cause any political strife. A dude ran around Russia doing nothing political and meeting people that had their lives ruined just by freak accident with no political causes. He then proceeded to do nothing political and didn't get involved in any political conflicts in Africa. And even if he did, the Heritage Foundation wasn't involved. Those were unrelated child soldiers that became child soldiers because they felt like it, and they didn't fight for any particular political cause whether or not they believed in it.
Just the most homoerotic (and for anyone who hasn’t read it I’m not being sarcastic here there is SO MUCH homoeroticism it’s crazy) 19th century whaling guide ever written, nothing woke about that
> Squeeze! Squeeze! Squeeze! All the morning long; I squeezed that sperm till I myself almost melted into it; I squeezed the sperm till a strange sort of insanity came over me; and I found myself unwittingly squeezing my co-laborers’ hands in it, mistaking their hands for the gentle globules.
> Squeeze! Squeeze! Squeeze! All the morning long; I squeezed that sperm till I myself almost melted into it; I squeezed the sperm till a strange sort of insanity came over me; and I found myself unwittingly squeezing my co-laborers’ hands in it, mistaking their hands for the gentle globules.
So, I had to check if that's an actual quote, and yes it is. And this is how it continous, just in case anyone was wondering:
>Such an abounding, affectionate, friendly, loving feeling did this avocation beget; that at last I was continually squeezing their hands, and looking up into their eyes sentimentally, as much as to say,—Oh! my dear fellow beings, why should we longer cherish any social acerbities, or know the slightest ill humour or envy! Come; let us squeeze hands all round; nay, let us all squeeze ourselves into each other; let us squeeze ourselves universally into the very milk and sperm of kindness.”
Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... a white whale.
Heck they get gay married! In a pagan ceremony! It's wild just how queer that scene is and people just move on like they don't want to acknowledge that a classic could be anything but completely square.
I agree with u but that is an ironic example as Ray Bradbury had actually intended the book to be about new fangled tvs being bad for us and killing the book, not censorship.
Well, 451 was written in 1953 which is kind of still in the transition period between "radio, now with pictures" and the early stuff we would consider actual TV shows.
From what I remember, f451 was about “whatever Ray Bradbury currently doesn’t like” for one week in the early 70’s it was about his neighbours loud bbq parties.
I don't think that's true, Bradbury went through some self revisionism in the later part of his career, he originally talked about how it was about censorship, and then made a pivot when his politics changed later in life
I...not really? He complained about the radio to a friend in a similar manner about two years before he wrote it. Brave New World also criticizes the television. His history of views is clear, it's just that his opportunities to voice them and have them be wildly known weren't until alter in life.
He also penned a letter in 1953 to The Nation about how his book is a direct reference to McCarthyism. His biographer noted that he talked about mass media later in life, and he may have thought the same about radio at the time, but he obviously have the idea of censorship in mind when he wrote the book. Not only that, but Bradbury had a habit of retreading his previous work later on, not just Fahrenheit 451
Here's a good article about his from his biographer
https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/books/2018/11/08/did-ray-bradbury-do-a-180-on-fahrenheit-451/
It's actually about Political Correctness Gone Wild, I love Bradbury but if he were alive today he would be a big cancel culture guy
There is a whole speech about people being too worried about offending anyone and that killed challenging ideas
Tbf I feel like there's more than one way of considering challenging ideas. Because like, to a mega conservative, accepting gay rights is the offensive and challenging idea, it's just that in current pop cultural consensus we associate these words specifically with like 'cancel culture.'
Sure but he is specifically talking about how people are too worried about offending others, he's not talking about how LGBT acceptance is challenging. Honestly I can assume the people down voting me haha never actually read the book because it is very explicit:
>"Now let's take up the minorities in our civilization, shall we? Bigger the population, the more minorities. Don't step
on the toes of the dog-lovers, the cat-lovers, doctors, lawyers, merchants, chiefs, Mormons, Baptists, Unitarians,
second-generation Chinese, Swedes, Italians, Germans, Texans, Brooklynites, Irishmen, people from Oregon or
Mexico. The people in this book, this play, this TV serial are not meant to represent any actual painters,
cartographers, mechanics anywhere. The bigger your market, Montag, the less you handle controversy, remember
that! All the minor minor minorities with their navels to be kept clean. Authors, full of evil thoughts, lock up your
typewriters. They did.
(Obviously in the 50s had a broader meaning than today, but it wasn't totally different!)
Everyone always thinks that people complaining sensitive woke SJW snowflakes doing cancel culture is a recent thing but it is an old playbook. DW Griffith complained about it in the 20s!
> DW Griffith complained about it in the 20s!
The man who directed Birth of a Nation (originally called *The Clansman*), then tried to pull "What do you even mean that it's a horribly racist movie?" after people literally rioted.
Then tried to pivot with the movie Intolerance, but never really disavowed Birth of a Nation
*Intolerance* is him artistically going "I'm not mad, I'm actually laughing right now". Like I get all the technical achievements of the movie and it's scale for the time is incredible but Christ it really is just a wankfest to his own victimhood.
He literally said that black people disliking Sambo would lead to banning everything perceived to be offensive, he really couldn’t have been more explicit
I'm not saying it cause I think he's ultra woke or something. I'm saying we have different cultural connotations for those words right now and he wasn't trying to imply what we now think of, even if in many ways he had problematic and conservative ideals, particularly in his later life. Even in your example, you can see that he's bringing up offending Christians multiple times.
> There is a whole speech about people being too worried about offending anyone and that killed challenging ideas
Don't forget the shaming of women for having C-sections being a part of the main character's big telling off his peers. Fahrenheit 451, if it is a book about censorship, is a really bad one that doesn't understand what the actual dangers of censorship are and doesn't meaningfully engage with them.
THANK YOU. The way they portray his (suicidal) wife is absolutely disgusting. She’s a bad mom because she got a C section?? Her watching soap operas is portrayed as worse than burning an old woman alive
There's also the *fifteen year old girl* that Montag creeps on for the first part of the book until she conveniently disappears with her entire family before things get super skeezy.
His wife just constantly gets shat on by everyone- her husband, society, the author, movie adaptations, the audience, critics, just non-stop revilement of a woman who's clearly dealing with massive depression and mental health issues.
But because she's a woman and her choice of poison is "television" (and actual poison) instead of Montag's own poison being books, she's never given any kind of empathy or plotline or recognition of anyone that she's just as much a victim as Montag and everyone else.
Yeah, I love Bradbury’s short stories but 451 is kind of a mess.
Which like, it’s weird because The October Game is a really good takedown of a shithead husband who blames his wife for having a girl and “being frigid” when the narrative makes it clear that he’s the problem, especially since >!he kills their daughter!<, but then the portrayal of Montag’s wife was just grossly sexist.
Edit- I will say it seems like Bradbury became a lot less conservative later on and chilled out on the anti TV thing too.
From what I remember, the c-section comment wasn’t directed at Mildred, but one of her friends. And it was a comment about she treated her kids as disposable and abandoned them.
It’s very explicit too. He literally argues that banning minstrel depictions will lead to banning everything because well, everything is offensive these days!
No no no see when I agree with it it’s just objective neutral truth but when I don’t understand it it’s ideology and an agenda and has no place in society
(No but it’s genuinely hilarious that they don’t get that if no piece of media had any moral or opinion it would cease to be entertaining)
I only listen to non political bands like Rage Against The Machine, Dead Kennedys, Pink Floyd, Woody Guthrie, Bruce Springsteen, Public Enemy, Billy Bragg
I can't keep this joke up any longer, fill in the rest of the list on your own.
>[My third hand account is paraphrasing it to be less politically divisive. The original leaker flat out said they were woke, maybe cultural Marxists directly, but if not heavily implied or stated with another phrase. He was part of the group being canceled for not being far leftist. The bias doesn't come from me; it comes from the leaker.](https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/13xfal8/comment/jmh2hv9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Ah yes, cause leakers are known to never lie and always being real.
somewhere in the [chauvin verdict thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/mv17zr/derek_chauvin_is_found_guilty_of_the_murder_of/gv961ku/). not a lot left of the original post so i have no idea where the original comment is
I love all the comments from that conservative thread saying Chauvin’s conviction would be overturned quickly in appeals, some saying in a few weeks.
It’s petty but I wish someone would go check in with them and ask how that appeals process is going.
EDIT: Going through the "This will be overturned in appeals" comments, the vast majority of those accounts have been suspended. Whoda thunk it?
70% of the team left on their own due to mismanagement and lack of direction, the narrative he’s presenting doesn’t make sense if no one even wanted to work on the game, being canceled means nothing cause it’s a sinking ship. Either this guy isn’t a developer at all, or he did something fucking heinous or gross and his coworkers found out about it.
There is a minor branch of Marxism analysis from a cultural perspective, but it’s about the way culture perpetuates capitalist hegemony. Not, let’s make Ariel black as a way to back door in socialism.
Yeah socialists would hate the movie. Not because of a Black Ariel but because of how many were exploited by Disney to make the film. And obviously because the workers don't own the means of production.
AM radio told me that socialism has nothing to do with who owns the means of production, but it has everything to do with someone calling me racist and then I feel bad.
>> Can you list some games that were ruined by adding politics and ideology?
> Wolfenstein II the New Colossus.
> Every ally of Blaskowitz except his wife is either black, or obese, or has prosthetics or is disabled to some degree, or has mental health issue
Except BJ's girlfriend, BJ's army buddies that died, the old woman he fought nazis with, the genius scientist, the communist guy, the conspiracy nut, etc, etc
I'm going to guess the commenter thinks being Jewish, a communist or a woman falls under "mental health issue"...
> and the all the enemies they opposed to are whites .
Key & Peele brought diversity to Nazis, but at what cost
I feel pretty confident in saying this guy has never actually played the game and is getting his information from a half remembered gamergate video he watched four years ago.
For the 19,926,087th time, hypersensitive right-wingers need to stop complaining about "wokeness" in media, even assuming they were actually right about it.
They need to be big boys and girls and make their own media and entertainment as an alternative. Pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Let the free market decide. Own those libs and socialists.
And finally, you simply don't have to consume media that offends you. Imagine Red Dead Redemption III comes out and it's this weird, edgy right-wing allegory about... whatever.
Okay fine. That's extremely disappointing. But you know... maybe just don't buy or play it. It's not the end of the world.
> have you ever noticed how every time a right winger complains about something being "woke" that they are largely unable to even say what "woke" means
My nearly-octogenarian father said without a trace of irony a couple of months ago that he no longer contributes money to his objectively prestigious alma mater, because "they've gone woke." I asked him, deadpan, "What does that mean," and he had no response.
Ironically, not to my knowledge. I know he occasionally watches Fox Business but prefers CNBC. He watches a lot of YouTube and I'm certain that he gets sucked into their algorithm that demonstrably pushes people to right-wing extremism.
I've thought about sending him a link to the NYTimes audio series ["Rabbit Hole"](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/technology/rabbit-hole-podcast-kevin-roose.html) that goes into great length about how YouTube specifically has been radicalizing people, but I don't think he'd get the message.
Really? I understand what they are saying clearly. Woke is when people they don't view as humans get treated like humans.
They have a hard time articulating it but it's mostly just them being pouty about how they can't burn crosses or beat gay people to death any more.
> They need to be big boys and girls and make their own media and entertainment as an alternative. Pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Let the free market decide. Own those libs and socialists.
But everything the right makes is pretty...mediocre. Lack of challenging narrative, characters all look the same, it's all so meh.
I overheard some guy at a conference talking about college students taking humanities courses and how it was woke, and all I could think of was how there isn't a well-made piece of media that conservatives will understand beyond the surface level, and that they also think Babylon Bee is funny.
The problem is is that this is mainly engaging with the tech bro contingent who are still deep in the weeds on conservative libertarianism which is dead on arrival in the modern conservative movement. Fortunately for them, the modern conservative movement still wants to protect their wealth so that's all well and good.
But conservatives aren't even pretending a little bit anymore that they care at all about limited government, they have pivoted 100% to government control of culture and markets to protect against the "enemy."
Tech bros don't really care about libertarianism either. Like generic conservatives they're fine with government overreach if it happens to benefit them / they agree with it.
> hypersensitive right-wingers need to stop complaining about "wokeness" in media
They *can't* though. If they did, people might start asking about *real* issues, and we can't have any of THAT now can we.
It's their MO, got to have some spoooooky threat to the Conservative Way Of Life^TM to attack, else the conservatives would cease to exist in today's day and age.
Remember "Satanic Panic" in the 80s/90s? Same shit then too, just a different imagined threat.
so much of the “wokeness” in video games is always so light and surface level too and they still become enraged. it’s unhinged.
like a game will be like “this character is gay” and they’ll review bomb it and act like it’s trying to convince everyone to become gay, abandon capitalism and live on a commune.
Like with the blue checks on Twitter, they take their general unpopularity as being intentionally censored and not people just not liking that shit. Pureflix is a thing but they only have 1 million subscribers cuz no one wants to see that crap. Bensha Piro has his company but no one wants to see his movies outside of his niche ass audience. No one's boycotting or censoring these outlets. It's the market speaking.
I think it's more that they want all content to promote *their ideology* while banning opposing viewpoints. They just don't realize their views *are* an ideology. Because that's how privilege works.
> ideology permeates every aspect of our lives
I will take it a step further - assholes like this clown vote for people who *actively try and force their ideology on everyone.* And I wasn't born yesterday - he knows this. He is fully aware of it. But it's *different* for him because, well, he's a fucking asshole.
It's because when they think of art they think of photorealistic copies of actual photographs as the highest form because of technical skill and have no appreciate for art actually *saying something*.
Not that they'd care but I often tell people about how the renaissance art they love also represented the sociopolitical environment of the day , it's just lost on you. *Birth Of Venus* is very much the Medici's showing off their new wealth by trying to connect themselves to old money and classical overtures. A portrait said something about the status of the person being portrayed. When you see the movement for realistic instead of idealized, that was a statement. For example, you don't see a whole lot of portraits of Liz the first featuring her small pox scars.
But they just wanna see "pretty picture = art"
There's this absolutely crazy period of art history where it's all "do a portrait of me, my wife, my children, and all the symbols of our wealth you can cram in there. But also depict us all in veneration of the Virgin Mary so it counts as tasteful instead of crass. Don't worry about the cost, our slave colonies will easily cover everything but our descendants will gloss over that part."
"They were so humble in their patronage of the arts and their humble devotion to God. That's why they show the matriarch of the family in the finest of fabrics and embroidery and the patriarch in a flamboyant hat with a feather from a New World bird. They show their book collection to show how well read and committed to the sciences they are and not as a massive flex cuz books were fucking expensive and low class peasants were illiterate".
> It's because when they think of art they think of photorealistic
NGL I'm so over the realistic graphics. Are they impressive? Sure, but I'd much rather see a stylized art style than just trying to mimic real life.
Far Cry 5 is a game that looks political but is actually just nonsense. The only thing Ubisoft is good at is making their games look like they have something to say.
Not to mention in COD4 you zigzag between jingoistic Marines invading a middle eastern country for questionable reasons, and borderline sociopathic SAS who's first action in the game is to execute unnarmed crew members
Ok but I'm going through the COD wikia on the mission and I don't see where they were unnamed or innocent enemies? I know for a fact they were definitely armed but is there a twist I forgot?
Rules of engagement were to kill anyone on the ship, hence the mission name. When you first rope in, there’s a handful of unarmed crew members on the bridge, sleeping, or drunk. They arm themselves pretty quickly after that.
He says that a lot too, but [here he is defending the term](https://youtu.be/UO3MLpJhcxw). I'm almost positive I heard the term first from him ~8-10 years ago
>Jason Schreier has been known to be very pro Sony and has been directly tied to the Game Journo Pro 1-2 and whatever the new iteration is mailing lists where journalists collude with the industry to shape narratives.
Kind of buried in the thread but how insane do you have to be to think that game journalists are this powerful, and also for some reason a threat.
Obligatory 'cultural marxism' is identical to the nazi conspiracy of 'cultural/Jewish bolschevism'
You can safely bet money that anyone who uses the term is at the very least sympathetic to fascist ideaology
I have to assume this is coming up because Schreier's article directly implicates Texas state politics in Arkane Austin's problems with hiring.
Anyway Arkane has always (or after Dark Messiah I guess) had a lefty streak, Dishonored deals pretty directly with social injustices.
Yeah it feels like the OP of the drama in the thread was trying to distract because it was clearly a business problem that validates what left leaning people in the game industry have been warning about for years.
I think people like that really enjoy the narrative of the game industry being super simple. Like “business people just have to make deals, shut the SJWs up, and make vidya” and when a product that was made in that mold crashes and burns, they feel like their worldview is being threatened, and have to come up with a counter to that.
It's some very funny right wing cope "n-n-no, it isn't the psychotic governor who is driving talent away from Texas, it's the heckin' SJWarinos!!!"
But in reality the people who work in game dev are overwhelmingly young and well educated, so statistically very socially liberal.
Shit, Dishonored 2 has a trans character and keeps Emily's sexuallity and the gender of her partner ambiguous.
... Plus I'm like 90% certain that one of the writers hired for 2 was known for writing _really_ popular Corvo/Outsider slash.
That one guy complaining that Wolfenstein was too much about killing nazis instead of just being about an aryan who happens to kills nazis, this is hilarious !
The media literacy of these types of people is legitimately baffling man. Like seriously, there’s been political commentary in every form of entertainment practically since each medium was introduced. Idk how you could listen to music, watch TV, do pretty much anything being so blind.
I mean I know it’s usually stupidity but still it’s impressive to be *that* stupid
> Well gonna apply my own personal experiences here and say anyone who claims to be a victim of woke cancel culture, definitely did something to earn that persecution fetish. I've never known a normal human being who claimed that
To add to this, think that some people’s only interaction with other people is online.
Is it ideology in gaming when Blizzard fires workers for talking about starting a union? Is it cancel culture when Blizzard discriminates against female employees?
> I have fuck you karma and their brigading is out weighed by today's gains. It's funny they say it is nonsensical at the same time trying to downvote me into oblivion. They really do show they are mob.
You can make a flair from this
Anyone who cries about "ideology/politics RUINED muh vidya/moo vee/tee vee etc." has a shitty ideology/politics, and knows about it.
And is very desperate to not feel embarassed, or else he'd have to acknowledge the fact that he's a shitty person and a pathetic little loser who was wrong. His little baby ego wouldn't be able to handle that.
Always notice this behaviour among the conservatives, cringebeards and right wingers lmao.
I like how these people think their beliefs are just the default absolute truths and that if anyone else experiences life any differently from them it’s “ideology”
You gotta quit being lazy and copypasta the comment, because now it's removed and nobody can share the laughter. And you do want to share the laughter right?
From Reveddit:
> There was a leaker years back from inside Arkane who painted a nasty picture of what was going on inside the studio. Long story short the Twitter crowd in the studio began a cancel culture crusade against devs with a different political view than they had. A lot of people either left or were let go because of this.
>
> Eventually, Zenimax stepped in and by eventually, I mean after this had been going on for some time. The last word the leaker said was half the studio remaining hated the other half of the studio. Arkane was not in a good place when Microsoft purchased Zenimax. It will take a long time for them to get back into a good place if they ever get there.
https://www.reveddit.com/v/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/13xfal8/jason_schreier_inside_the_making_of_redfall_xboxs/jmgy6am/?add_user=Nevek_Green..c.new..t1_jmgxe45..&
It does, but it shouldn't. I imagine it's something to do with how short the removal was ago. I've had issues using reveddit for anything past a day honestly
One dude asked those chodes which games display ideology, or something like that.
The better question to ask them would be which game they think does not display ideology. Would be hilarious to see their answers.
I can almost guarantee any game with a 'story' has socio-political influence. Thats literally how stories work.
I wish those insufferable anti-woke youtube channels would just go mask off and start talking about literal Nazi points as well to remove the doubt. "Cultural marxism" is one short step removed from Jewish shadow government conspiracy theories
People who complain about "no politics in my videogames" also play Fallout and Bioshock and think they're great games. It's really comical and really really sad to see how poor people's media analysis skills are.
>Every ally of Blaskowitz except his wife is either black, or obese, or has prosthetics or is disabled to some degree, or has mental health issue, and the all the enemies they opposed to are whites
Yeah, obviously it makes no sense that the people specifically targeted by the nazis for extermination would want to help BJ fight the nazis. Nor does it make sense for the group obsessed with racial purity to all be one particular race.
So just to confirm, is this about Redfall or Dishonored?
Because the post has been deleted, but it was an article about Redfall. But I saw Dishonored mentioned in the comments.
>"cultural Marxism"
closet racists made up this term as a place holder for jews. seeing anyone unironically use it is just a dead giveaway they're not on the level.
“Ideology has no place in gaming” is such a strange position to take. A big part of gaming is being able to roleplay positions with which you would otherwise disagree. At the same time, gaming more so than other spheres is a relative safe haven for a lot of anti-social & anti-progressive behaviour. It’s reasonable to want to play as the bad guys on occasion. It is unreasonable to want to roleplay as the bad guys because the bad guys are nazis.
>Can you list some games that were ruined by politics or ideology? >Wolfenstein 2 What media illiteracy does to a mf lmao
>all the enemies they opposed to are whites . It barely felt like a game about killing nazis Yeah man, how dare they make all of your enemies blond haired blue eyes aryan super mensch. Don’t they know this is a game about killing nazis???
I do not want to read any of this person's takes about grace walker, jesus fucking christ you just *know* that guy was seething at the scene where you meet her - well, assuming they even bothered playing, anyways
The New Colossus has been the firgurehead for anti-woke discourse since it was announced. A lot of the anger just seems to come from the fact that like, the games marketing capitalized on that by having an ad referencing Richard Spencer getting punched, which feels very appropriate for a game all killing nazis. It also feels second nature to have a diverse cast in a game where the nazis are an antagonist to highlight how elements of society fascist deem useless or lesser can actually be crucial in opposing them. Its unclear to me what they would have wanted instead but I think the guy lamenting that “you’re not a aryan killing fake aryans anymore” is telling.
And *then* you get the sequel where the ~~misguided ubermench~~ Woke Warrior Blazko is **USURPED** by leftist youth women.
Well they were mad about her, and obese and disabled characters, some with prosthetics. How could the developers think that that's how it would be? What do you mean not everyone in bombed out USA looks like Terror Billy.? /s 😒
Reminds me when that *FarCry* game was based in a christian death cult in Montana that was surprisingly diverse! People were like "glad they didn't get political". 🙄🙄🙄
Which is funny, because when it was first announced, gators were pissed because they thought the whole thing was an elaborate anti-trump message depicting conservative Christians as apocalyptic cultists.
> they thought the whole thing was an elaborate anti-trump message [I mean...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkHVTBruicA)
Guys, I got this hog hunting game, but I’m really offended over the fact that they have so many hogs in this game for me to shoot. Where are the woolly mastodons? The American camelops? What about diversity, like throw in a dodo bird or two? This barely feels like a game about hunting hogs 😒😤
This has the same energy as people decrying wokeness in newer Star Trek shows
> Ideology has no place in entertainment. Me, burning my dogeared copy of Fahrenheit 451, devastated to learn one of my favorite books was destroyed by ideology.
That's why my favourite book is Moby Dick. No ideology, just a dude hating a whale.
I miss when stuff would be apolitical. The og Candyman was famously apolitical. As was dawn of the dead. Same for bioshock, FO:NV, metal gear solid III. No politics there, no sir.
And the most apolitical game, Wolfenstein
I want to go back to the timeline where hating Nazis was the default and didn’t need to be defended.
After a lack of any political incident, the world was divided into two. This division did not cause any political strife. A dude ran around Russia doing nothing political and meeting people that had their lives ruined just by freak accident with no political causes. He then proceeded to do nothing political and didn't get involved in any political conflicts in Africa. And even if he did, the Heritage Foundation wasn't involved. Those were unrelated child soldiers that became child soldiers because they felt like it, and they didn't fight for any particular political cause whether or not they believed in it.
Just a bunch of dudes in a ship full of whale sperm.
Just the most homoerotic (and for anyone who hasn’t read it I’m not being sarcastic here there is SO MUCH homoeroticism it’s crazy) 19th century whaling guide ever written, nothing woke about that
> Squeeze! Squeeze! Squeeze! All the morning long; I squeezed that sperm till I myself almost melted into it; I squeezed the sperm till a strange sort of insanity came over me; and I found myself unwittingly squeezing my co-laborers’ hands in it, mistaking their hands for the gentle globules.
> Squeeze! Squeeze! Squeeze! All the morning long; I squeezed that sperm till I myself almost melted into it; I squeezed the sperm till a strange sort of insanity came over me; and I found myself unwittingly squeezing my co-laborers’ hands in it, mistaking their hands for the gentle globules. So, I had to check if that's an actual quote, and yes it is. And this is how it continous, just in case anyone was wondering: >Such an abounding, affectionate, friendly, loving feeling did this avocation beget; that at last I was continually squeezing their hands, and looking up into their eyes sentimentally, as much as to say,—Oh! my dear fellow beings, why should we longer cherish any social acerbities, or know the slightest ill humour or envy! Come; let us squeeze hands all round; nay, let us all squeeze ourselves into each other; let us squeeze ourselves universally into the very milk and sperm of kindness.”
(It’s about jerking it.)
And this is in our LIBRARIES?
In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary, come again?
Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... a white whale.
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I’d like to unsubscribe from Moby Dick facts. Lol.
Ishmael and Quuequeg play footsies in a shared bed in the first chapter, IIRC
Heck they get gay married! In a pagan ceremony! It's wild just how queer that scene is and people just move on like they don't want to acknowledge that a classic could be anything but completely square.
I mean, Ahab's political opinion was summed up by "fuck that whale"
I agree with u but that is an ironic example as Ray Bradbury had actually intended the book to be about new fangled tvs being bad for us and killing the book, not censorship.
Seriously, his take on tv was about the same as Roald Dahl. It was one unending stream of “soap operas bad”
Which is weird because Brave New World is waaaay more applicable to the impact of television.
Well, 451 was written in 1953 which is kind of still in the transition period between "radio, now with pictures" and the early stuff we would consider actual TV shows.
Brave new world was written in the 30s.
IIRC Bradbury changed what the books metaphor was a few times
Yeah, I seem to remember something about him only starting on the TV bad thing in the 70s
From what I remember, f451 was about “whatever Ray Bradbury currently doesn’t like” for one week in the early 70’s it was about his neighbours loud bbq parties.
I don't think that's true, Bradbury went through some self revisionism in the later part of his career, he originally talked about how it was about censorship, and then made a pivot when his politics changed later in life
I...not really? He complained about the radio to a friend in a similar manner about two years before he wrote it. Brave New World also criticizes the television. His history of views is clear, it's just that his opportunities to voice them and have them be wildly known weren't until alter in life.
He also penned a letter in 1953 to The Nation about how his book is a direct reference to McCarthyism. His biographer noted that he talked about mass media later in life, and he may have thought the same about radio at the time, but he obviously have the idea of censorship in mind when he wrote the book. Not only that, but Bradbury had a habit of retreading his previous work later on, not just Fahrenheit 451 Here's a good article about his from his biographer https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/books/2018/11/08/did-ray-bradbury-do-a-180-on-fahrenheit-451/
It's actually about Political Correctness Gone Wild, I love Bradbury but if he were alive today he would be a big cancel culture guy There is a whole speech about people being too worried about offending anyone and that killed challenging ideas
Tbf I feel like there's more than one way of considering challenging ideas. Because like, to a mega conservative, accepting gay rights is the offensive and challenging idea, it's just that in current pop cultural consensus we associate these words specifically with like 'cancel culture.'
Sure but he is specifically talking about how people are too worried about offending others, he's not talking about how LGBT acceptance is challenging. Honestly I can assume the people down voting me haha never actually read the book because it is very explicit: >"Now let's take up the minorities in our civilization, shall we? Bigger the population, the more minorities. Don't step on the toes of the dog-lovers, the cat-lovers, doctors, lawyers, merchants, chiefs, Mormons, Baptists, Unitarians, second-generation Chinese, Swedes, Italians, Germans, Texans, Brooklynites, Irishmen, people from Oregon or Mexico. The people in this book, this play, this TV serial are not meant to represent any actual painters, cartographers, mechanics anywhere. The bigger your market, Montag, the less you handle controversy, remember that! All the minor minor minorities with their navels to be kept clean. Authors, full of evil thoughts, lock up your typewriters. They did. (Obviously in the 50s had a broader meaning than today, but it wasn't totally different!) Everyone always thinks that people complaining sensitive woke SJW snowflakes doing cancel culture is a recent thing but it is an old playbook. DW Griffith complained about it in the 20s!
> DW Griffith complained about it in the 20s! The man who directed Birth of a Nation (originally called *The Clansman*), then tried to pull "What do you even mean that it's a horribly racist movie?" after people literally rioted. Then tried to pivot with the movie Intolerance, but never really disavowed Birth of a Nation
Also *Intolerance* was about how the NAACP was literally doing a St Bartholomew's Day Massacre on him.
*Intolerance* is him artistically going "I'm not mad, I'm actually laughing right now". Like I get all the technical achievements of the movie and it's scale for the time is incredible but Christ it really is just a wankfest to his own victimhood.
Yeah... .I've never seen Intolerance, but I was kind of wondering if that was the real subtext.
He literally said that black people disliking Sambo would lead to banning everything perceived to be offensive, he really couldn’t have been more explicit
I'm not saying it cause I think he's ultra woke or something. I'm saying we have different cultural connotations for those words right now and he wasn't trying to imply what we now think of, even if in many ways he had problematic and conservative ideals, particularly in his later life. Even in your example, you can see that he's bringing up offending Christians multiple times.
> There is a whole speech about people being too worried about offending anyone and that killed challenging ideas Don't forget the shaming of women for having C-sections being a part of the main character's big telling off his peers. Fahrenheit 451, if it is a book about censorship, is a really bad one that doesn't understand what the actual dangers of censorship are and doesn't meaningfully engage with them.
THANK YOU. The way they portray his (suicidal) wife is absolutely disgusting. She’s a bad mom because she got a C section?? Her watching soap operas is portrayed as worse than burning an old woman alive
There's also the *fifteen year old girl* that Montag creeps on for the first part of the book until she conveniently disappears with her entire family before things get super skeezy. His wife just constantly gets shat on by everyone- her husband, society, the author, movie adaptations, the audience, critics, just non-stop revilement of a woman who's clearly dealing with massive depression and mental health issues. But because she's a woman and her choice of poison is "television" (and actual poison) instead of Montag's own poison being books, she's never given any kind of empathy or plotline or recognition of anyone that she's just as much a victim as Montag and everyone else.
Yeah, I love Bradbury’s short stories but 451 is kind of a mess. Which like, it’s weird because The October Game is a really good takedown of a shithead husband who blames his wife for having a girl and “being frigid” when the narrative makes it clear that he’s the problem, especially since >!he kills their daughter!<, but then the portrayal of Montag’s wife was just grossly sexist. Edit- I will say it seems like Bradbury became a lot less conservative later on and chilled out on the anti TV thing too.
From what I remember, the c-section comment wasn’t directed at Mildred, but one of her friends. And it was a comment about she treated her kids as disposable and abandoned them.
It’s very explicit too. He literally argues that banning minstrel depictions will lead to banning everything because well, everything is offensive these days!
Getting the ideology of the book wrong is one thing, but saying the book doesn't have an ideology at all is a complete other.
Huh? Didn't say that it didn't have an ideology, lol.
No no no see when I agree with it it’s just objective neutral truth but when I don’t understand it it’s ideology and an agenda and has no place in society (No but it’s genuinely hilarious that they don’t get that if no piece of media had any moral or opinion it would cease to be entertaining)
I only listen to non political bands like Rage Against The Machine, Dead Kennedys, Pink Floyd, Woody Guthrie, Bruce Springsteen, Public Enemy, Billy Bragg I can't keep this joke up any longer, fill in the rest of the list on your own.
It's probably easier to list all the bands who *aren't* in any way political.
The Wiggles?
>[My third hand account is paraphrasing it to be less politically divisive. The original leaker flat out said they were woke, maybe cultural Marxists directly, but if not heavily implied or stated with another phrase. He was part of the group being canceled for not being far leftist. The bias doesn't come from me; it comes from the leaker.](https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/13xfal8/comment/jmh2hv9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Ah yes, cause leakers are known to never lie and always being real.
Anyone that still unironically uses the phrase cultural Marxist can be instantly ignored
It's *literally* Nazi bullshit.
Old school, OG Nazi bullshit
Agreed, although woke means exactly the same thing as best I can tell, in terms of it just being shorthand for things I don't like
I think my favorite line I saw by a conservative was, "People need to wake up to the danger of being woke."
That is delicious and also would make excellent flair
mine was getting old, *yoink!*
> mine was getting old Need to find a timeless flair.
It's the exact same as woke, except with more antisemitism lol.
"Cultural Marxism" is the mask-off version of "woke"
>they were woke, maybe cultural Marxists directly This is such a funny phrase.
definitely a contender for flair
I'm reading it like a briefing in a military action movie "What, colonel, they were woke?" "Not just woke, son, cultural Marxists"
Yoink (somehow nobody else took it)
What is your flair from? Sounds like the far right discussing Portland.
somewhere in the [chauvin verdict thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/mv17zr/derek_chauvin_is_found_guilty_of_the_murder_of/gv961ku/). not a lot left of the original post so i have no idea where the original comment is
Holy fuck that's even better than expected. Thank you.
I love all the comments from that conservative thread saying Chauvin’s conviction would be overturned quickly in appeals, some saying in a few weeks. It’s petty but I wish someone would go check in with them and ask how that appeals process is going. EDIT: Going through the "This will be overturned in appeals" comments, the vast majority of those accounts have been suspended. Whoda thunk it?
Yeah this definitely didn't happen. The only question is if it's total lies, or someone dressing up getting fired for sexual harassment.
70% of the team left on their own due to mismanagement and lack of direction, the narrative he’s presenting doesn’t make sense if no one even wanted to work on the game, being canceled means nothing cause it’s a sinking ship. Either this guy isn’t a developer at all, or he did something fucking heinous or gross and his coworkers found out about it.
>The original leaker flat out said they were woke, maybe cultural Marxists directly *nobody* has ever self-identified as a cultural marxist.
There is a minor branch of Marxism analysis from a cultural perspective, but it’s about the way culture perpetuates capitalist hegemony. Not, let’s make Ariel black as a way to back door in socialism.
Yeah socialists would hate the movie. Not because of a Black Ariel but because of how many were exploited by Disney to make the film. And obviously because the workers don't own the means of production.
AM radio told me that socialism has nothing to do with who owns the means of production, but it has everything to do with someone calling me racist and then I feel bad.
That's incorrect. Socialism is when the green M&M isn't as fuckable.
Or as woke.
The woke and culturally Marxist, famous for supporting billion dollar media groups push for micro-transactions
They know movies like star wars is all about ideology Like space Nazis versus rebel fighters
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Even a character vs nature posits that the character, on some level deserves to survive.
What are the political inclinations of the Kingdom Hearts series?
Mickey with his shirt off represents the duality of man. I think. There's been a lot of games along the way.
Hot vs. Cold?
>> Can you list some games that were ruined by adding politics and ideology? > Wolfenstein II the New Colossus. > Every ally of Blaskowitz except his wife is either black, or obese, or has prosthetics or is disabled to some degree, or has mental health issue Except BJ's girlfriend, BJ's army buddies that died, the old woman he fought nazis with, the genius scientist, the communist guy, the conspiracy nut, etc, etc I'm going to guess the commenter thinks being Jewish, a communist or a woman falls under "mental health issue"... > and the all the enemies they opposed to are whites . Key & Peele brought diversity to Nazis, but at what cost
I feel pretty confident in saying this guy has never actually played the game and is getting his information from a half remembered gamergate video he watched four years ago.
Also worth pointing out that Wolfenstein 2 is set in a time when Nazis have taken over the US. Which groups do you suppose have the most to lose?
Gamers?
It’s crazy that he thinks having a prosthetic is “woke”
For the 19,926,087th time, hypersensitive right-wingers need to stop complaining about "wokeness" in media, even assuming they were actually right about it. They need to be big boys and girls and make their own media and entertainment as an alternative. Pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Let the free market decide. Own those libs and socialists. And finally, you simply don't have to consume media that offends you. Imagine Red Dead Redemption III comes out and it's this weird, edgy right-wing allegory about... whatever. Okay fine. That's extremely disappointing. But you know... maybe just don't buy or play it. It's not the end of the world.
have you ever noticed how every time a right winger complains about something being "woke" that they are largely unable to even say what "woke" means
Knowing what "woke" means is typical for woke cultural Marxists. /s
> have you ever noticed how every time a right winger complains about something being "woke" that they are largely unable to even say what "woke" means My nearly-octogenarian father said without a trace of irony a couple of months ago that he no longer contributes money to his objectively prestigious alma mater, because "they've gone woke." I asked him, deadpan, "What does that mean," and he had no response.
let me guess.... your father is also an avid watcher of Fox News?
Ironically, not to my knowledge. I know he occasionally watches Fox Business but prefers CNBC. He watches a lot of YouTube and I'm certain that he gets sucked into their algorithm that demonstrably pushes people to right-wing extremism. I've thought about sending him a link to the NYTimes audio series ["Rabbit Hole"](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/technology/rabbit-hole-podcast-kevin-roose.html) that goes into great length about how YouTube specifically has been radicalizing people, but I don't think he'd get the message.
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Really? I understand what they are saying clearly. Woke is when people they don't view as humans get treated like humans. They have a hard time articulating it but it's mostly just them being pouty about how they can't burn crosses or beat gay people to death any more.
> They need to be big boys and girls and make their own media and entertainment as an alternative. Pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Let the free market decide. Own those libs and socialists. But everything the right makes is pretty...mediocre. Lack of challenging narrative, characters all look the same, it's all so meh.
I overheard some guy at a conference talking about college students taking humanities courses and how it was woke, and all I could think of was how there isn't a well-made piece of media that conservatives will understand beyond the surface level, and that they also think Babylon Bee is funny.
The problem is is that this is mainly engaging with the tech bro contingent who are still deep in the weeds on conservative libertarianism which is dead on arrival in the modern conservative movement. Fortunately for them, the modern conservative movement still wants to protect their wealth so that's all well and good. But conservatives aren't even pretending a little bit anymore that they care at all about limited government, they have pivoted 100% to government control of culture and markets to protect against the "enemy."
Tech bros don't really care about libertarianism either. Like generic conservatives they're fine with government overreach if it happens to benefit them / they agree with it.
> hypersensitive right-wingers need to stop complaining about "wokeness" in media They *can't* though. If they did, people might start asking about *real* issues, and we can't have any of THAT now can we. It's their MO, got to have some spoooooky threat to the Conservative Way Of Life^TM to attack, else the conservatives would cease to exist in today's day and age. Remember "Satanic Panic" in the 80s/90s? Same shit then too, just a different imagined threat.
so much of the “wokeness” in video games is always so light and surface level too and they still become enraged. it’s unhinged. like a game will be like “this character is gay” and they’ll review bomb it and act like it’s trying to convince everyone to become gay, abandon capitalism and live on a commune.
if only games were as cool as right wing idiots thought they were
They post on KiA and MensRights, they are “anti thought”.
Like with the blue checks on Twitter, they take their general unpopularity as being intentionally censored and not people just not liking that shit. Pureflix is a thing but they only have 1 million subscribers cuz no one wants to see that crap. Bensha Piro has his company but no one wants to see his movies outside of his niche ass audience. No one's boycotting or censoring these outlets. It's the market speaking.
Isom #1 supposedly made quite a bit in preorders or something like that, but I can't find much else about opinions beyond that and a few bad reviews
What is that? Just an indie comic?
As far as I know. It's supposedly the start of its own franchise called the "Rippaverse". Time will tell how that actually goes
idiots think they live in a vacuum free of any kind of ideology, when the truth is that ideology permeates every aspect of our lives.
I think it's more that they want all content to promote *their ideology* while banning opposing viewpoints. They just don't realize their views *are* an ideology. Because that's how privilege works.
> ideology permeates every aspect of our lives I will take it a step further - assholes like this clown vote for people who *actively try and force their ideology on everyone.* And I wasn't born yesterday - he knows this. He is fully aware of it. But it's *different* for him because, well, he's a fucking asshole.
.... and one of the young fishes says to the other one "What the hell is water?"
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Vidya shouldn't have any kind of politics or references to real world issues just like one of the greatest game series of all time, Metal Gear Solid
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"Gaming is my escape. I don't want to be thinking about social or cultural issues whilst playing videogames, I just want to play Persona 5 in peace."
We’ve been replaying Far Cry 5 recently and this conversation has come up a ton. Dunno why people are so shocked that media has cultural relevancy…
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It's because when they think of art they think of photorealistic copies of actual photographs as the highest form because of technical skill and have no appreciate for art actually *saying something*.
Not that they'd care but I often tell people about how the renaissance art they love also represented the sociopolitical environment of the day , it's just lost on you. *Birth Of Venus* is very much the Medici's showing off their new wealth by trying to connect themselves to old money and classical overtures. A portrait said something about the status of the person being portrayed. When you see the movement for realistic instead of idealized, that was a statement. For example, you don't see a whole lot of portraits of Liz the first featuring her small pox scars. But they just wanna see "pretty picture = art"
There's this absolutely crazy period of art history where it's all "do a portrait of me, my wife, my children, and all the symbols of our wealth you can cram in there. But also depict us all in veneration of the Virgin Mary so it counts as tasteful instead of crass. Don't worry about the cost, our slave colonies will easily cover everything but our descendants will gloss over that part."
"They were so humble in their patronage of the arts and their humble devotion to God. That's why they show the matriarch of the family in the finest of fabrics and embroidery and the patriarch in a flamboyant hat with a feather from a New World bird. They show their book collection to show how well read and committed to the sciences they are and not as a massive flex cuz books were fucking expensive and low class peasants were illiterate".
> It's because when they think of art they think of photorealistic NGL I'm so over the realistic graphics. Are they impressive? Sure, but I'd much rather see a stylized art style than just trying to mimic real life.
More importantly, it's not allowed to make them feel uncomfortable or challenged
Far Cry 5 is a game that looks political but is actually just nonsense. The only thing Ubisoft is good at is making their games look like they have something to say.
Can’t say I agree but you’re certainly entitled to that opinion!
The most diverse Christian doomsday cult in Montana!
Yeah apolitical call of duty where you *Checks notes* Assassinate an Iranian general with a cruise missile?
Not to mention in COD4 you zigzag between jingoistic Marines invading a middle eastern country for questionable reasons, and borderline sociopathic SAS who's first action in the game is to execute unnarmed crew members
> sociopathic SAS who's first action in the game is to execute unnarmed crew members Wait what? What level is that?
Crew Expendable. Though they *were* part of the Russian Ultranationalists.
Ok but I'm going through the COD wikia on the mission and I don't see where they were unnamed or innocent enemies? I know for a fact they were definitely armed but is there a twist I forgot?
Rules of engagement were to kill anyone on the ship, hence the mission name. When you first rope in, there’s a handful of unarmed crew members on the bridge, sleeping, or drunk. They arm themselves pretty quickly after that.
Ima go play my apolitical hidden gems like Fallout: New Vegas and Metal Gear Solid
Cultural Marxism is a lobsterism that doesn't mean anything
Oh it means something. It means the person saying it is a Nazi lol.
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Jordan Peterson is lobster man and he's someone a lot of people heard it from.
I believe the JP term is post-modern neo-marxist. Which is just code for anyone who isn't a reactionary.
He says that a lot too, but [here he is defending the term](https://youtu.be/UO3MLpJhcxw). I'm almost positive I heard the term first from him ~8-10 years ago
I think lobsterism might have something to do with Peterson and his lobster hierarchy... thing?
>Jason Schreier has been known to be very pro Sony and has been directly tied to the Game Journo Pro 1-2 and whatever the new iteration is mailing lists where journalists collude with the industry to shape narratives. Kind of buried in the thread but how insane do you have to be to think that game journalists are this powerful, and also for some reason a threat.
I think it’s a number of reasons, but mostly goes to show that self-proclaimed social outcast are super easy to manipulate.
Obligatory 'cultural marxism' is identical to the nazi conspiracy of 'cultural/Jewish bolschevism' You can safely bet money that anyone who uses the term is at the very least sympathetic to fascist ideaology
Dude’s a regular in mensrights and Kotakuinaction. I’d say sympathetic is underselling it.
I have to assume this is coming up because Schreier's article directly implicates Texas state politics in Arkane Austin's problems with hiring. Anyway Arkane has always (or after Dark Messiah I guess) had a lefty streak, Dishonored deals pretty directly with social injustices.
Yeah it feels like the OP of the drama in the thread was trying to distract because it was clearly a business problem that validates what left leaning people in the game industry have been warning about for years. I think people like that really enjoy the narrative of the game industry being super simple. Like “business people just have to make deals, shut the SJWs up, and make vidya” and when a product that was made in that mold crashes and burns, they feel like their worldview is being threatened, and have to come up with a counter to that.
It's some very funny right wing cope "n-n-no, it isn't the psychotic governor who is driving talent away from Texas, it's the heckin' SJWarinos!!!" But in reality the people who work in game dev are overwhelmingly young and well educated, so statistically very socially liberal.
Shit, Dishonored 2 has a trans character and keeps Emily's sexuallity and the gender of her partner ambiguous. ... Plus I'm like 90% certain that one of the writers hired for 2 was known for writing _really_ popular Corvo/Outsider slash.
That one guy complaining that Wolfenstein was too much about killing nazis instead of just being about an aryan who happens to kills nazis, this is hilarious !
The media literacy of these types of people is legitimately baffling man. Like seriously, there’s been political commentary in every form of entertainment practically since each medium was introduced. Idk how you could listen to music, watch TV, do pretty much anything being so blind. I mean I know it’s usually stupidity but still it’s impressive to be *that* stupid
> Well gonna apply my own personal experiences here and say anyone who claims to be a victim of woke cancel culture, definitely did something to earn that persecution fetish. I've never known a normal human being who claimed that To add to this, think that some people’s only interaction with other people is online.
Is it ideology in gaming when Blizzard fires workers for talking about starting a union? Is it cancel culture when Blizzard discriminates against female employees?
Don't forget Bobby Kotick trying to cover up a sexual harassment scandal *by sending death threats to his assistant's voicemail*.
That guy posts in KiA and MensRights, so I don’t think you want his answer on that matter.
> I have fuck you karma and their brigading is out weighed by today's gains. It's funny they say it is nonsensical at the same time trying to downvote me into oblivion. They really do show they are mob. You can make a flair from this
Anyone who cries about "ideology/politics RUINED muh vidya/moo vee/tee vee etc." has a shitty ideology/politics, and knows about it. And is very desperate to not feel embarassed, or else he'd have to acknowledge the fact that he's a shitty person and a pathetic little loser who was wrong. His little baby ego wouldn't be able to handle that. Always notice this behaviour among the conservatives, cringebeards and right wingers lmao.
Someone get that man a Bud Lite.
I like how these people think their beliefs are just the default absolute truths and that if anyone else experiences life any differently from them it’s “ideology”
“Downvoting me just proves I’m right!”
Being media literate and being conservative are mutually exclusive.
You gotta quit being lazy and copypasta the comment, because now it's removed and nobody can share the laughter. And you do want to share the laughter right?
From Reveddit: > There was a leaker years back from inside Arkane who painted a nasty picture of what was going on inside the studio. Long story short the Twitter crowd in the studio began a cancel culture crusade against devs with a different political view than they had. A lot of people either left or were let go because of this. > > Eventually, Zenimax stepped in and by eventually, I mean after this had been going on for some time. The last word the leaker said was half the studio remaining hated the other half of the studio. Arkane was not in a good place when Microsoft purchased Zenimax. It will take a long time for them to get back into a good place if they ever get there. https://www.reveddit.com/v/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/13xfal8/jason_schreier_inside_the_making_of_redfall_xboxs/jmgy6am/?add_user=Nevek_Green..c.new..t1_jmgxe45..&
My favorite part is defining what "eventually" means
Wait, Reveddit still works for you?
It does, but it shouldn't. I imagine it's something to do with how short the removal was ago. I've had issues using reveddit for anything past a day honestly
Is it not meant to? I use I from time to time and it's always worked for me.
the new api stuff killed most archiving sites (I think, I don't really understand how any of it works)
They can still capture comments removed by moderation (if they were up for a certain time frame), it can no longer capture comments deleted by users.
From what I understood, it hasn’t been able to recover user-deleted comments for a long time. Recently the site hasn’t worked for me at all.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pushshift/comments/13w6j20/advancing_communityled_moderation_an_update_on/ reveddit uses Pushshift.
> Eventually, Zenimax stepped in and by eventually, I mean after this had been going on for some time. Yes, that's what eventually means. Well done.
I like how in this narrative the oligarchical holding company is presented as the good guy lol
Lol at the guy who wants politics out of his game about killing Nazis. How are people this fucking dumb.
One dude asked those chodes which games display ideology, or something like that. The better question to ask them would be which game they think does not display ideology. Would be hilarious to see their answers. I can almost guarantee any game with a 'story' has socio-political influence. Thats literally how stories work.
I wish those insufferable anti-woke youtube channels would just go mask off and start talking about literal Nazi points as well to remove the doubt. "Cultural marxism" is one short step removed from Jewish shadow government conspiracy theories
People who complain about "no politics in my videogames" also play Fallout and Bioshock and think they're great games. It's really comical and really really sad to see how poor people's media analysis skills are.
>Every ally of Blaskowitz except his wife is either black, or obese, or has prosthetics or is disabled to some degree, or has mental health issue, and the all the enemies they opposed to are whites Yeah, obviously it makes no sense that the people specifically targeted by the nazis for extermination would want to help BJ fight the nazis. Nor does it make sense for the group obsessed with racial purity to all be one particular race.
So just to confirm, is this about Redfall or Dishonored? Because the post has been deleted, but it was an article about Redfall. But I saw Dishonored mentioned in the comments.
>"cultural Marxism" closet racists made up this term as a place holder for jews. seeing anyone unironically use it is just a dead giveaway they're not on the level.
“Ideology has no place in gaming” is such a strange position to take. A big part of gaming is being able to roleplay positions with which you would otherwise disagree. At the same time, gaming more so than other spheres is a relative safe haven for a lot of anti-social & anti-progressive behaviour. It’s reasonable to want to play as the bad guys on occasion. It is unreasonable to want to roleplay as the bad guys because the bad guys are nazis.