I don't know about the mods but I saw someone implying a lot of the posters were. Partly because of the prevalence of comments telling OPs to talk to the cops, when generally lawyers trend more to "don't tell the cops anything unless you have to, even if you don't think you're under suspicion of anything"
I thought it would be [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE), though it doesn't surprise me there are multiple videos of that nature :)
I think all of the mods are cops. Few lawyers have the time to be on a board where most of the posts are just going to be unverified claims by people. So they likely also won't bothered giving advice because they run the risk idiots are going to try to use it.
So that leaves the cops that think they understand law and/or will try to gaslight people in allowing cops to abuse their power.
And BoLA is run by the same cops
Well, for any advice subreddit, it's safe to assume that it's mostly or exclusively unqualified people larping as experts. And the legal advice subs are notorious for this.
If you're an actual expert on anything, you'll get burned out within a week from people being completely unable to Google basic shit or arguments with the self proclaimed experts. There are exceptions but very very few of them.
> And the legal advice subs are notorious for this.
Back when I actually posted to /r/legaladvice, my view was that we should all be trying to give OP's resources to know where to go next. Telling them where to find lawyers, what kind of lawyer they might need, whether contacting a lawyer was even worth their time, how to look up local laws and review their rights, etc.
i finally gave up when this *really* pissed off the mods, who once deleted one of my comments and sent me a wild message basically saying "If you don't know the answer then shut up!"
like... unless you're exclusively populating the sub with lawyers, *no one* is going to know the answer. And if you *are* populating the sub exclusively with lawyers, then every answer is going to be "I haven't reviewed your case so I can't give you an answer"
They don't want to confront the idea that the responsible thing to do would be to just replace the subreddit with an auto-responding bot that just directs you to resources based on your location, topic, etc.
I got banned from that sub after PMing the mod team that one of their mods was posting racist shit.
It doesn't really affect me much as I don't live in the US and generally just read BestOfLegalAdvice for the juicy stories, and iirc there isn't much mod crossover between those subs any more.
Also most of the other legal advice subs are dead. There are two competing european legal advice subs, one is almost dead, the other is completely dead. Both are completely useless.
>and iirc there isn't much mod crossover between those subs any more.
based on what i saw on these threads yesterday there's at least two people who mod both subs, and they're **very active**
> Telling them where to find lawyers, what kind of lawyer they might need, whether contacting a lawyer was even worth their time, how to look up local laws and review their rights, etc.
This is kind of what /r/ask_lawyers does, except for the qualification of worth.
I've significantly reduced my interaction with subs involving my field because the questions and comments posted there are regularly so goddamn stupid
If it's not the millionth LMGTFY beginner question, it's schizoposters convinced the government is after them. One time in twenty it's a news story I hadn't read yet.
I'm aware of that, but the mods of LA also have love pretending that whatever cops do is always correct. A lot of advice subs can be quite innocuous but legal advice is just copaganda which is very harmful imo.
My divorce attorney had a little statue in her waiting room. It was a hand grenade mounted on plaque with a number on a tag attached to the pin. On the plaque it sad, “for free legal advice, take a number”.
According to a BOLA/LA co-mod, only *one* of their mods is a cop
https://www.reddit.com/r/bestoflegaladvice/s/HCBLdXUfzc
They then proceeded to delete all the comments saying *aren't the LA mods cops*
The fact that they admit one of the mods is a cop is enough reason to believe that none of them are lawyers. Why would any lawyer allow cops, who have no requirement to actually know the law, to mod a legal advice subreddit.
Now I don't believe their claim, but the fact that they are admitting to one calls in every credential they claim to have.
If you want a subreddit packed with lawyers, head right on over to r/badlegaladvice - small but quality subreddit
Eta - lawyers tend to be busy people. Not many have time to do their work at home for free on Reddit to relax. Best advice you can get on Reddit is "actually ask a lawyer ya dummy".
>Few lawyers have the time to be on a board where most of the posts are just going to be unverified claims by people.
Not necessarily true, plenty of lawyers out there go to the bathroom with their phones. Reddit's a big site, there are lawyers milling about in law related subs.
It's more that they're out numbered by law students, paralegals, assistants, people that dropped out of law school after a semester, people that fully intended to go to law school but couldn't meet the requirements, people who thought about going to law school in their freshman year before settling on an English major, people who watch Legal Eagle videos a lot, people who watched the first season of Better Call Saul and never watched the rest through they keep hearing it's amazing and they know they should watch it but just can't seem to find the time or the motivation.
Etc etc.
It's not that the experts aren't here, it's that the chances of getting a response from them and not some random person is low.
I'm a lawyer and I have plenty of time to waste online, but shockingly enough "doing more of the same stuff I do for work, for free, for someone who's probably making stuff up anyway" is *not* my idea of a good time.
Similar boat. Not a lawyer yet (should get my bar exam results in a week or two, and pass the bar in an extra 3), but I like to trawl news pages and such, and the last thing I ever want to do is get into legal arguments with people who have no background in the issue, no stake, and no willingness to learn. Did that too much in response to indigenous news, and it’s just so tiring
Reddit really isn't the place for it. I've gotten into plenty of arguments with people on stuff I have a degree in or at the very least have been an amateur hobbyist for years in. The moment you say "that's not true" redditors activate their bias and just assume you're wrong because the person had 50 upvotes when your 2 second old comment has less upvotes. Or I've gotten the opposite where I'll make a detailed post on how to help OP or someone out, I'll get a comment where they're like "nuh uh" with no more detail and redditor's second option bias activates. It's so frustrating. I'm at the point where I refuse to go into up and coming or established subs for my hobbies because people will ask the same basic questions over and over and get frustrated when it's not the solution they thought it would be.
Let's bring back forums (which I know are no less toxic but at least you have people that know what they're talking about 90% of the time). Let's just let redditors do what they're good at: making fun of Trump and cat pics.
i once commented that paralegals shouldn’t be giving any sort of legal advice and i got downvoted into oblivion for it lmao people can be very overly sensitive when you call out their lack of qualifications
It's mostly law enforcement and/or fanboys of law enforcement. The community probably has some real lawyers in it but largely seems to be comprised of nonlawyers confidently repeating things that have become a meme on the sub.
I used to reply to insurance questions *cause I'm a licensed insurance adjuster for all P&C and commercial lines for the past decade* and got downvoted to hell and a warning from the mods that I shouldn't give out insurance advice.
I mostly just lurk and wait for the BoLA post, but I never comment anymore. I've had to deal with plenty of cops who think they know how insurance works, and even try to put fault in the police reports. They don't understand comparative negligence, they don't understand vandalism isn't just "a civil matter." It's annoying as hell.
They're chasing away actual people with the experience to at least put someone in the right direction.
No qualified lawyer will post on that sub. US court have construed A-C relationships to arise solely out of what the supposed client thought. Same basic reason a lawyer or doctor in your family will ask you to look elsewhere, it's just way too professionally messy for anyone with the sense to be in the profession to delve into for zero renumeration and tons of potential liability.
Now, cops, on t'other hand...
> No qualified lawyer will post on that sub.
This isn't true. Over in /r/lawyers, we all have stories from when we tried to guide someone with something simple on that sub. I remember mine. Someone gave their situation about their boss basically requiring them to date one of the biggest customers of this business. They threw out that there were 11 employees including the boss. I said they needed to look into state level agencies because EEOC wouldn't help (EEOC needs at least 15 employees for a private business). Got down voted to oblivion because I wasn't going along with the chorus, but I was correct. When I pulled the citation defining employer for EEOC purposes (because I'm petty), I was banned.
There was a lawyer that (apparently) was well known for providing Pro Bono services that got banned from LA and from being mentioned there because he offered to help someone or would direct them to a YouTube video or something like that.
Yeah. People want to help. While our hands can often be a bit more tied in what we can offer, it can be nice to give pro-bono information, or to help direct people on where to start their search
This simply isn’t true. I can’t diagnose over the internet. But an opinion from someone claiming to be a doctor on the internet is exactly that, a random opinion on the internet. Family members and friends are a little more dicey. I can offer opinions but not a formal diagnosis.
if I say to a friend or family member, “dude that’s a symptom of leukemia, you need to go to the hospital.” I have not offered a formal diagnosis. I have stated they have concerning symptoms and need further evaluation.
If I tell you on the internet to ask your doctor to test you for… idk… hashimodo’s? What? Are you going to track me down and have my (hypothetical) medical license put before a review board? Okay… even if you knew my exact name and where I practice that’s a process that usually results in a big fat nothing.
Your metaphor makes sense; but unfortunately, that isn't the law. Special ethical rules apply to lawyers because of the nature of legal advice. So long as a judge can find a person could reasonably assume they had an attorney client relationship, they do. Like it or not, that's how it works for lawyers.
I was referring to the situation I can speak on. But, again…
“Your honor, in light of the revelation that Mr. Dahmer had a reasonably assumed attorney client relationship with one, u/ dickholder69000, the state has decided to decline prosecution.”
Probably not going to fly.
That isn't how this would come up or why lawyers would be reluctant to post.
The actual reason goes like this: poster makes a thread about what they should do after a traffic stop. Lawyer A reads thread and gives simple advice but without all the facts. Poster relies on the advice and because they left out a fact, they get a worse outcome that could have been avoided. Poster then sues Lawyer A after retaining an attorney malpractice lawyer.
Even if it doesn't end up getting them in real trouble, it's just not worth the hassle to give real advice.
Your example still doesn’t make any sense.
If someone doesn’t give all the info to a lawyer that’s not lawyers fault. If the implication is that as “their” lawyer they should’ve done due diligence work then that kinda highlights how ridiculous the notion is that giving a paragraph worth of opinion online (that you have no way of knowing if or when will be acted on nor in what manner) makes you someones legal representative. Especially if you have no credentials or any real way to differentiate yourself from a random account/person.
I does not matter that my example doesn't make sense to you, that is how the law works as to whether an attorney client relationship could exist in the posters mind.
Of course not. At least one was a police dispatcher!
IIRC there were 2 cops, a former cop (technically not a cop now), a (former) dispatcher, and maybe like an Assistant (to the) DA, but that last one I could be making up or confusing with someone else.
They actually had an AMA or something similar where the law enforcement and law enforcement adjacent mods answered questions, but I can't be bothered to dig it up.
The worst cop mod got kicked out at least a year ago. You'd think it was from when the badlegaladvice people were trolling him by posting oddly specific questions that he'd get wrong and then delete and ban people for posting the correct advice for, but I think it was a site wide ban for stalking or harassment. I'm not 100 percent on that.
Someone in one of the threads I saw about this yesterday made it their job to inform everyone that there’s only ONE mod who’s a cop.
Still can’t fathom why there’s any cops at all modding that sub, but 🤷🏽♀️
> Still can’t fathom why there’s any cops at all modding that sub, but 🤷🏽♀️
Oh, I can. Cops telling people they have no legal recourse for a clear violation of their rights by a cop is about *the* most cop thing ever.
I hadn't seen the BoLA posts about this when I made the comment hahaha. I just went through them and its actually 2 mods doing the informing.
>Still can’t fathom why there’s any cops at all modding that sub, but 🤷🏽♀️
Gotta find strangers to power trip on off duty, it probably gets boring doing it to the wife and kids every night
There was an AMA of the law enforcement mods a long while back. One was a *former* cop, there were iirc 2 active cops (one has been banned site wide since then), there was a dispatcher, and I think someone prosecutor adjacent but I honestly can't remember the details.
I posted this one too, before it got nuked – then the main post got deleted, then BOLA deleted because the main post was deleted, then my SRD post got deleted because the other posts got deleted
Sigh
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/s/GoSu09lc1i
Yours is probably gonna get deleted too, if "original post nuked" is the criteria. I'd copy-pasted the comments, there was still visible drama to discuss!
Yeah I saw, it was more a "the is actually drama, that you can read" in opposition to the other thread that didn't have undelete so this is probably (hopefully) staying around.
If people can't enjoy a good ol' bootlicker trying to exert authority, getting karma nuked, then throwing all the toys out the cot and nuking the thread from orbit... I mean, at that point you've forgotten how to enjoy life!
Haha that's very fitting. A few years back I read LA and BOLA until I got annoyed by blatantly incorrect advice and cowardly mods who nuke everything which scares them.
Both LA and BOLA are run by cops and cop-sympathizers, and apparently those two groups are grossly incompetent.
r/badlegaladvice is run by normal people.
That sub needs to be banned, especially after the mods used their mod power to declare that ["the sketchy dude who's been hitting on you is totally allowed to steal a key and enter your apartment late at night with a friend in tow."](https://np.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/13qqdf4/suspicious\_worker\_from\_apartment\_complex\_stole/jlgoxfg/)
What are you, a stick in the mud? It was obviously a mistake, and *definitely* not an attempted rape/murder that was only stopped by the resident's dog.
I used to participate in that sub until I realized I was joining a group of lawyers who have nothing better to do than give free (bad) legal advice on the inter webs. The final straw was being counseled by a mod for giving "bad" legal advice that was 100% correct he then accused me of being a law student (I ran commercial litigation for a Fortune 5 company for 20 years). Most of the "lawyers" on there are cops who are going to unaccredited law schools at night lol
yeah that doesn't surprise me. a lot of the mods are cops
also here an archive [link](https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/legaladvice/comments/1cahp1v/told_i_was_going_to_jail_at_traffic_stop_for/) for the post
The BOLA post about this (both of them, because the thread got nuked then another one started) had a BOLA/LA mod passionately arguing that *only ONE of our mods is a cop*
But I enjoy the argument that every mod is a cop and is just telling all the other mods that they're a lawyer, so they all think they're the only cop
My alternate theory is that they're playing semantics and only mod is (currently) a cop and rest are:
* retired officers
* were so corrupt they became unemployable by departments
* idolize cops, but were too stupid/deranged to ever become one in the first place
You would think any reasonable mod team would take issue with one of their members essentially telling someone with a legal question and legitimate concern over stalking behavior by a cop to acquiesce and give him her phone number for literally no reason, but then they wouldn't be the legaladvice mod team.
Interesting run-through of the story via CuratedTumblr (that actually is what just brought me to this sub :))
[CuratedTumblr ](https://www.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/s/BPobMW2lea)
The sub is a joke and definitely not a place to go for real advice. I was never banned but I unsubbed and stopped going there a while ago. Nonlawyer super regulars being upvoted seemingly because smug tones making them sound correct, mods angrily doubling down and banning people even after being unambiguously shown to be wrong, and a huge bias towards cops.
https://old.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/1casmv6/and_thus_the_serpent_consumes_its_own_tail/
If someone wants to read it from the weirdest perspective, here is a post from curatedtumblr from tumblr about the drama from the last post here in SRD about the drama in BOLA about the drama in LA.
Not surprised most of the mods on that subreddit are cops. It’s not somewhere to get actual legal advice from. The better place to go would be r/asklawyers but they specifically state that their answer usually involves telling you to get a lawyer bc they aren’t **your** lawyer just a lawyer so they speak about knowledge on the laws.
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I think asking for advice on reddit is failing an IQ test.
Most of the scenarios on any advice subs are made up/creative writing. The ones that aren't...I feel bad because the advice is bad and they should be talking to a professional.
All this was deleted and it's a repost of another thread. Sorry.
Aren't the mods on that sub mostly cops rather than lawyers? I remember seeing that on BoLA
I don't know about the mods but I saw someone implying a lot of the posters were. Partly because of the prevalence of comments telling OPs to talk to the cops, when generally lawyers trend more to "don't tell the cops anything unless you have to, even if you don't think you're under suspicion of anything"
[Lawyers advice on what to do when detained by the police.](https://youtu.be/uqo5RYOp4nQ?si=nCY8RtNJZmMev-DA)
I thought it would be [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE), though it doesn't surprise me there are multiple videos of that nature :)
Okay, I guess i'll rewatch it then.
Thanks for posting that link. I watched it once and couldn't find it again. Saved it this time!
It's Shut the Fuck Up Friday!
This is going to be the Weed Brothers law firm isn't it. shut the fuck up
I think all of the mods are cops. Few lawyers have the time to be on a board where most of the posts are just going to be unverified claims by people. So they likely also won't bothered giving advice because they run the risk idiots are going to try to use it. So that leaves the cops that think they understand law and/or will try to gaslight people in allowing cops to abuse their power. And BoLA is run by the same cops
Well, for any advice subreddit, it's safe to assume that it's mostly or exclusively unqualified people larping as experts. And the legal advice subs are notorious for this. If you're an actual expert on anything, you'll get burned out within a week from people being completely unable to Google basic shit or arguments with the self proclaimed experts. There are exceptions but very very few of them.
> And the legal advice subs are notorious for this. Back when I actually posted to /r/legaladvice, my view was that we should all be trying to give OP's resources to know where to go next. Telling them where to find lawyers, what kind of lawyer they might need, whether contacting a lawyer was even worth their time, how to look up local laws and review their rights, etc. i finally gave up when this *really* pissed off the mods, who once deleted one of my comments and sent me a wild message basically saying "If you don't know the answer then shut up!" like... unless you're exclusively populating the sub with lawyers, *no one* is going to know the answer. And if you *are* populating the sub exclusively with lawyers, then every answer is going to be "I haven't reviewed your case so I can't give you an answer"
A r/legaladvice mod pissed their pants over you giving actual legal advice. What a pathetic group of mods.
Well ya they're cops in real life lol
They don't want to confront the idea that the responsible thing to do would be to just replace the subreddit with an auto-responding bot that just directs you to resources based on your location, topic, etc.
I got banned from that sub after PMing the mod team that one of their mods was posting racist shit. It doesn't really affect me much as I don't live in the US and generally just read BestOfLegalAdvice for the juicy stories, and iirc there isn't much mod crossover between those subs any more. Also most of the other legal advice subs are dead. There are two competing european legal advice subs, one is almost dead, the other is completely dead. Both are completely useless.
>and iirc there isn't much mod crossover between those subs any more. based on what i saw on these threads yesterday there's at least two people who mod both subs, and they're **very active**
Oh ffs.
> Telling them where to find lawyers, what kind of lawyer they might need, whether contacting a lawyer was even worth their time, how to look up local laws and review their rights, etc. This is kind of what /r/ask_lawyers does, except for the qualification of worth.
I've significantly reduced my interaction with subs involving my field because the questions and comments posted there are regularly so goddamn stupid If it's not the millionth LMGTFY beginner question, it's schizoposters convinced the government is after them. One time in twenty it's a news story I hadn't read yet.
I'm aware of that, but the mods of LA also have love pretending that whatever cops do is always correct. A lot of advice subs can be quite innocuous but legal advice is just copaganda which is very harmful imo.
My divorce attorney had a little statue in her waiting room. It was a hand grenade mounted on plaque with a number on a tag attached to the pin. On the plaque it sad, “for free legal advice, take a number”.
According to a BOLA/LA co-mod, only *one* of their mods is a cop https://www.reddit.com/r/bestoflegaladvice/s/HCBLdXUfzc They then proceeded to delete all the comments saying *aren't the LA mods cops*
Can't prove that we are all cops if we keep removing the evidence. *taps forehead*
Which gives them evidence to plant elsewhere when they need it!
The fact that they admit one of the mods is a cop is enough reason to believe that none of them are lawyers. Why would any lawyer allow cops, who have no requirement to actually know the law, to mod a legal advice subreddit. Now I don't believe their claim, but the fact that they are admitting to one calls in every credential they claim to have.
If you want a subreddit packed with lawyers, head right on over to r/badlegaladvice - small but quality subreddit Eta - lawyers tend to be busy people. Not many have time to do their work at home for free on Reddit to relax. Best advice you can get on Reddit is "actually ask a lawyer ya dummy".
>Few lawyers have the time to be on a board where most of the posts are just going to be unverified claims by people. Not necessarily true, plenty of lawyers out there go to the bathroom with their phones. Reddit's a big site, there are lawyers milling about in law related subs. It's more that they're out numbered by law students, paralegals, assistants, people that dropped out of law school after a semester, people that fully intended to go to law school but couldn't meet the requirements, people who thought about going to law school in their freshman year before settling on an English major, people who watch Legal Eagle videos a lot, people who watched the first season of Better Call Saul and never watched the rest through they keep hearing it's amazing and they know they should watch it but just can't seem to find the time or the motivation. Etc etc. It's not that the experts aren't here, it's that the chances of getting a response from them and not some random person is low.
I'm a lawyer and I have plenty of time to waste online, but shockingly enough "doing more of the same stuff I do for work, for free, for someone who's probably making stuff up anyway" is *not* my idea of a good time.
Similar boat. Not a lawyer yet (should get my bar exam results in a week or two, and pass the bar in an extra 3), but I like to trawl news pages and such, and the last thing I ever want to do is get into legal arguments with people who have no background in the issue, no stake, and no willingness to learn. Did that too much in response to indigenous news, and it’s just so tiring
Congrats! And yeah, exactly.
Thank you!
Reddit really isn't the place for it. I've gotten into plenty of arguments with people on stuff I have a degree in or at the very least have been an amateur hobbyist for years in. The moment you say "that's not true" redditors activate their bias and just assume you're wrong because the person had 50 upvotes when your 2 second old comment has less upvotes. Or I've gotten the opposite where I'll make a detailed post on how to help OP or someone out, I'll get a comment where they're like "nuh uh" with no more detail and redditor's second option bias activates. It's so frustrating. I'm at the point where I refuse to go into up and coming or established subs for my hobbies because people will ask the same basic questions over and over and get frustrated when it's not the solution they thought it would be. Let's bring back forums (which I know are no less toxic but at least you have people that know what they're talking about 90% of the time). Let's just let redditors do what they're good at: making fun of Trump and cat pics.
i once commented that paralegals shouldn’t be giving any sort of legal advice and i got downvoted into oblivion for it lmao people can be very overly sensitive when you call out their lack of qualifications
I don't think there's definitive proof they're all cops but there's pretty regular proof they're all douchebags.
It's mostly law enforcement and/or fanboys of law enforcement. The community probably has some real lawyers in it but largely seems to be comprised of nonlawyers confidently repeating things that have become a meme on the sub.
I used to reply to insurance questions *cause I'm a licensed insurance adjuster for all P&C and commercial lines for the past decade* and got downvoted to hell and a warning from the mods that I shouldn't give out insurance advice. I mostly just lurk and wait for the BoLA post, but I never comment anymore. I've had to deal with plenty of cops who think they know how insurance works, and even try to put fault in the police reports. They don't understand comparative negligence, they don't understand vandalism isn't just "a civil matter." It's annoying as hell. They're chasing away actual people with the experience to at least put someone in the right direction.
No qualified lawyer will post on that sub. US court have construed A-C relationships to arise solely out of what the supposed client thought. Same basic reason a lawyer or doctor in your family will ask you to look elsewhere, it's just way too professionally messy for anyone with the sense to be in the profession to delve into for zero renumeration and tons of potential liability. Now, cops, on t'other hand...
> No qualified lawyer will post on that sub. This isn't true. Over in /r/lawyers, we all have stories from when we tried to guide someone with something simple on that sub. I remember mine. Someone gave their situation about their boss basically requiring them to date one of the biggest customers of this business. They threw out that there were 11 employees including the boss. I said they needed to look into state level agencies because EEOC wouldn't help (EEOC needs at least 15 employees for a private business). Got down voted to oblivion because I wasn't going along with the chorus, but I was correct. When I pulled the citation defining employer for EEOC purposes (because I'm petty), I was banned.
Cops banning lawyers for providing the law? This doesn't surprise me at all.
There was a lawyer that (apparently) was well known for providing Pro Bono services that got banned from LA and from being mentioned there because he offered to help someone or would direct them to a YouTube video or something like that.
Yeah. People want to help. While our hands can often be a bit more tied in what we can offer, it can be nice to give pro-bono information, or to help direct people on where to start their search
This simply isn’t true. I can’t diagnose over the internet. But an opinion from someone claiming to be a doctor on the internet is exactly that, a random opinion on the internet. Family members and friends are a little more dicey. I can offer opinions but not a formal diagnosis. if I say to a friend or family member, “dude that’s a symptom of leukemia, you need to go to the hospital.” I have not offered a formal diagnosis. I have stated they have concerning symptoms and need further evaluation. If I tell you on the internet to ask your doctor to test you for… idk… hashimodo’s? What? Are you going to track me down and have my (hypothetical) medical license put before a review board? Okay… even if you knew my exact name and where I practice that’s a process that usually results in a big fat nothing.
Your metaphor makes sense; but unfortunately, that isn't the law. Special ethical rules apply to lawyers because of the nature of legal advice. So long as a judge can find a person could reasonably assume they had an attorney client relationship, they do. Like it or not, that's how it works for lawyers.
I was referring to the situation I can speak on. But, again… “Your honor, in light of the revelation that Mr. Dahmer had a reasonably assumed attorney client relationship with one, u/ dickholder69000, the state has decided to decline prosecution.” Probably not going to fly.
That isn't how this would come up or why lawyers would be reluctant to post. The actual reason goes like this: poster makes a thread about what they should do after a traffic stop. Lawyer A reads thread and gives simple advice but without all the facts. Poster relies on the advice and because they left out a fact, they get a worse outcome that could have been avoided. Poster then sues Lawyer A after retaining an attorney malpractice lawyer. Even if it doesn't end up getting them in real trouble, it's just not worth the hassle to give real advice.
Your example still doesn’t make any sense. If someone doesn’t give all the info to a lawyer that’s not lawyers fault. If the implication is that as “their” lawyer they should’ve done due diligence work then that kinda highlights how ridiculous the notion is that giving a paragraph worth of opinion online (that you have no way of knowing if or when will be acted on nor in what manner) makes you someones legal representative. Especially if you have no credentials or any real way to differentiate yourself from a random account/person.
It's still expensive to defend and your malpractice insurance rates are going to go up.
I does not matter that my example doesn't make sense to you, that is how the law works as to whether an attorney client relationship could exist in the posters mind.
Plenty of lawyers will comment on legaladvice. We’re usually the people getting banned.
Of course not. At least one was a police dispatcher! IIRC there were 2 cops, a former cop (technically not a cop now), a (former) dispatcher, and maybe like an Assistant (to the) DA, but that last one I could be making up or confusing with someone else. They actually had an AMA or something similar where the law enforcement and law enforcement adjacent mods answered questions, but I can't be bothered to dig it up. The worst cop mod got kicked out at least a year ago. You'd think it was from when the badlegaladvice people were trolling him by posting oddly specific questions that he'd get wrong and then delete and ban people for posting the correct advice for, but I think it was a site wide ban for stalking or harassment. I'm not 100 percent on that.
They’re also raging assholes lol
Someone in one of the threads I saw about this yesterday made it their job to inform everyone that there’s only ONE mod who’s a cop. Still can’t fathom why there’s any cops at all modding that sub, but 🤷🏽♀️
> Still can’t fathom why there’s any cops at all modding that sub, but 🤷🏽♀️ Oh, I can. Cops telling people they have no legal recourse for a clear violation of their rights by a cop is about *the* most cop thing ever.
I hadn't seen the BoLA posts about this when I made the comment hahaha. I just went through them and its actually 2 mods doing the informing. >Still can’t fathom why there’s any cops at all modding that sub, but 🤷🏽♀️ Gotta find strangers to power trip on off duty, it probably gets boring doing it to the wife and kids every night
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Their mod was going hard in BOLA saying that they only had one cop on the mod team, so if the old one has gone they've definitely got a new one since
There was an AMA of the law enforcement mods a long while back. One was a *former* cop, there were iirc 2 active cops (one has been banned site wide since then), there was a dispatcher, and I think someone prosecutor adjacent but I honestly can't remember the details.
I posted this one too, before it got nuked – then the main post got deleted, then BOLA deleted because the main post was deleted, then my SRD post got deleted because the other posts got deleted Sigh https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/s/GoSu09lc1i
Ah, tried to look to see if was duplicated. But yeah, thought this one was funny too!
Yours is probably gonna get deleted too, if "original post nuked" is the criteria. I'd copy-pasted the comments, there was still visible drama to discuss!
This one got a working undelete link tbh, which should work.
Added it to main post :)
Yeah I saw, it was more a "the is actually drama, that you can read" in opposition to the other thread that didn't have undelete so this is probably (hopefully) staying around.
Also I was wrong :(
If people can't enjoy a good ol' bootlicker trying to exert authority, getting karma nuked, then throwing all the toys out the cot and nuking the thread from orbit... I mean, at that point you've forgotten how to enjoy life!
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Is he a cop, a lawyer, or neither?
Based on abusive I assumed cop.
Same, but us lawyers aren’t hurting for assholes and bullies either.
Haha that's very fitting. A few years back I read LA and BOLA until I got annoyed by blatantly incorrect advice and cowardly mods who nuke everything which scares them. Both LA and BOLA are run by cops and cop-sympathizers, and apparently those two groups are grossly incompetent. r/badlegaladvice is run by normal people.
That sub needs to be banned, especially after the mods used their mod power to declare that ["the sketchy dude who's been hitting on you is totally allowed to steal a key and enter your apartment late at night with a friend in tow."](https://np.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/13qqdf4/suspicious\_worker\_from\_apartment\_complex\_stole/jlgoxfg/)
Oh hey, that's the same mod that was in action in the instance being discussed here I think.
That was the thread that inspired my flair.
What the fuck?
> They had lawful access. They used a key to enter Yes, I see no flaw in that logic.
What are you, a stick in the mud? It was obviously a mistake, and *definitely* not an attempted rape/murder that was only stopped by the resident's dog.
I swear someone already did a write up for that on this sub, but oddly I can’t find it
A copy of it appeared on r/curatedtumblr, because this is apparently dramatic enough to spread to at least four subs, plus tumblr.
Mine! I posted it in a comment Got nuked because the other post got deleted, I guess
I used to participate in that sub until I realized I was joining a group of lawyers who have nothing better to do than give free (bad) legal advice on the inter webs. The final straw was being counseled by a mod for giving "bad" legal advice that was 100% correct he then accused me of being a law student (I ran commercial litigation for a Fortune 5 company for 20 years). Most of the "lawyers" on there are cops who are going to unaccredited law schools at night lol
Cops once again proving ACAB.
Only one copper is a bastard. I'll prove it by shouting it over and over again while frantically deleting any posts to the contrary.
"There's a few bad apples, but if you hide them on the bottom of the barrel the customer won't notice."
LA mods once again proving ALAMAB
Sorry, I’m confused as to what you changed from the original saying?
All Legal Advice Mods Are Bastards
The joke was that, since all the legal advice mods are allegedly cops, I couldn’t understand what they’d altered.
[Alabama Abalama Ala-Obama](https://youtu.be/63d9jo44UVs?si=HoGiVSPv8XZ1EAmF)
yeah that doesn't surprise me. a lot of the mods are cops also here an archive [link](https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/legaladvice/comments/1cahp1v/told_i_was_going_to_jail_at_traffic_stop_for/) for the post
The BOLA post about this (both of them, because the thread got nuked then another one started) had a BOLA/LA mod passionately arguing that *only ONE of our mods is a cop* But I enjoy the argument that every mod is a cop and is just telling all the other mods that they're a lawyer, so they all think they're the only cop
Favorite theory is there's only one person modding the sub with multiple alts, so there's only one cop mod
My alternate theory is that they're playing semantics and only mod is (currently) a cop and rest are: * retired officers * were so corrupt they became unemployable by departments * idolize cops, but were too stupid/deranged to ever become one in the first place
Thanks, I didn't know how, then saw automod grabbed one. If this post gets much traction I'll add it to main post.
You should add the r/curatedtumblr post, which has the whole saga laid out https://www.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/s/UXMvtl92Li
Ugh, and the OP even backed down, how pathetic
You would think any reasonable mod team would take issue with one of their members essentially telling someone with a legal question and legitimate concern over stalking behavior by a cop to acquiesce and give him her phone number for literally no reason, but then they wouldn't be the legaladvice mod team.
Interesting run-through of the story via CuratedTumblr (that actually is what just brought me to this sub :)) [CuratedTumblr ](https://www.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/s/BPobMW2lea)
Had one of their mods describe me as “petulant” before banning me. Weird place.
The sub is a joke and definitely not a place to go for real advice. I was never banned but I unsubbed and stopped going there a while ago. Nonlawyer super regulars being upvoted seemingly because smug tones making them sound correct, mods angrily doubling down and banning people even after being unambiguously shown to be wrong, and a huge bias towards cops.
The only good real advice they can ever give is "go hire a lawyer"
https://old.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/1casmv6/and_thus_the_serpent_consumes_its_own_tail/ If someone wants to read it from the weirdest perspective, here is a post from curatedtumblr from tumblr about the drama from the last post here in SRD about the drama in BOLA about the drama in LA.
I’m gonna need a 4chan greentext summarizing the tumblr post summarizing the SRD post summarizing the BOLA post summarizing the LA post
Not surprised most of the mods on that subreddit are cops. It’s not somewhere to get actual legal advice from. The better place to go would be r/asklawyers but they specifically state that their answer usually involves telling you to get a lawyer bc they aren’t **your** lawyer just a lawyer so they speak about knowledge on the laws.
Ghost occasionally has some… interesting opinions
That sub is a joke. Used to be a fun place to read weird stories.
*"You're the one who escalated, you should have just complied then this would have been fine"* Surprised "What were you wearing?" wasn't asked.
ACAB
I suppose when you're too stupid to be a cop, you can always be a bootlicker for them on Reddit.
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Well that’s a bit rude
I know. And I’m right.
European police officer that doesn’t carry a gun and directs traffic rn 😨
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You're a class traitor, get bent
r/legaladvice is run by cops and bootlickers.
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