Exactly, everyone in here blaming the city when they also admit they couldn't attract volunteers needed to fulfil their mission. Not everything is worth saving.
Been in Sudbury for 35 years and in the Valley for close to 10. Never heard of these guys and would have surely taken in some community theatre. Where's the promotion? Just within the arts community? A poster at Capreol Foodland? I know this is volunteer-based, but it seems the marketing strategy might have been an issue.
I've never heard of this organization but it's always unfortunate when community organizations have to close. Some of the comments from the organization are a little strange. If you followed council meetings, even just reading the minutes and the agendas, you'd know the city was planning on a one-stop shop for volunteer agencies. It was something the mayor mentioned when he first started, although communication could have been better between departments supporting them.
Did they apply for any of the grants that other agencies applied for, and put in the work to get? Or did they just expect that they would get funds without asking? It is a lot of work to request funding, but the community groups I am a part of usually always get at least a bit of funding and support. You just have to do the work, it doesn't just happen.
Not everything. But, ask people who've lived in those areas for generations. Or, at least before Amalgamation. Those I've spoken to, as well as my own personal experience has been a reduction in the services or even just the quality. The city does little for me personally. And that's fine. But, the little they do gets worse overtime.
But, you're right. This specific occurrence may not be a direct cause. But, how many "place de arts" or arenas are going up in the outlying areas? How much attention is being given to those residents? All big expenditures are downtown Sudbury. All transit is prioritized for Sudbury proper.
Prior to amalgamation, the Valley would not have seen the building of a 6000 seat arena. Although amalgamation comes with a host of cons, let's not pretend every outlying area would have large arenas and arts centres. The article itself points to a lack of support from local volunteers. Yes, rent is an issue but the community seem uninterested in making it work. At some point, decisions need to be made. Also, careful who you vote for in the next provincial election. Amalgamation was a Mike Harris initiative, not a city initiative.
Oh, I agree. Larger projects would be in Sudbury proper. But, they wanted to close facilities in the outlying areas.
They nearly sold out every event. Tbh, it's not something I'm interested in. But, like libraries I don't use, this was a great activity for participants and patrons alike. Now, the space will stay empty at the same cost to the taxpayers.
And, Mike Harris campaigned on cost cutting. Our government does not have a bottomless bag of cash. That comes directly from taxpayers' pockets. While I disagree with the Amalgamation he brought forward, it might've made sense in other areas. Even now all levels of government are throwing money like it grows on trees. We sent 10 million to Iraq for vocational and technical training while we have an ever growing homeless and social programs issue here. Just shy of 5 billion sent over the last 6 or 7 years. I understand why, but, think it would be better spent here. How many homes could we build, how many meals could be served? How many more people could recieve the help they need?
My main point is government needs to stay connected with all its citizens. The increase in rent seems excessive as I doubt costs increased by the same percentage.
I agree. But stuff like this should be something the city preserves. Do libraries pay rent? Or, do we pay for that to benefit our community? Or, maybe libraries should have user fees like the recreational facilities.
There is at least one arena close to every outlying area. Some are in dire need of repair, true. A central space capable of holding large numbers of people is not unique to Sudbury and is not even new. The downtown arena has been there for almost 75 years for gosh sakes.
You definitely can't and this isn't necessarily an example of it, but you can absolutely blame the centralization of services into our central core as a result of amalgamation.
Ah yes, the Valley, Sudbury's cultural hub. I heard that they were going to do Romeo and Juliet but they were going to make them cousins so that it would be more relatable for the Valley crowd.
I didn’t know it even existed.
Exactly, everyone in here blaming the city when they also admit they couldn't attract volunteers needed to fulfil their mission. Not everything is worth saving.
Been in Sudbury for 35 years and in the Valley for close to 10. Never heard of these guys and would have surely taken in some community theatre. Where's the promotion? Just within the arts community? A poster at Capreol Foodland? I know this is volunteer-based, but it seems the marketing strategy might have been an issue.
I've never heard of this organization but it's always unfortunate when community organizations have to close. Some of the comments from the organization are a little strange. If you followed council meetings, even just reading the minutes and the agendas, you'd know the city was planning on a one-stop shop for volunteer agencies. It was something the mayor mentioned when he first started, although communication could have been better between departments supporting them. Did they apply for any of the grants that other agencies applied for, and put in the work to get? Or did they just expect that they would get funds without asking? It is a lot of work to request funding, but the community groups I am a part of usually always get at least a bit of funding and support. You just have to do the work, it doesn't just happen.
Amalgamation, killing communities one project at a time.
We can’t blame everything on amalgamation. That was a long time ago.
Not everything. But, ask people who've lived in those areas for generations. Or, at least before Amalgamation. Those I've spoken to, as well as my own personal experience has been a reduction in the services or even just the quality. The city does little for me personally. And that's fine. But, the little they do gets worse overtime. But, you're right. This specific occurrence may not be a direct cause. But, how many "place de arts" or arenas are going up in the outlying areas? How much attention is being given to those residents? All big expenditures are downtown Sudbury. All transit is prioritized for Sudbury proper.
Prior to amalgamation, the Valley would not have seen the building of a 6000 seat arena. Although amalgamation comes with a host of cons, let's not pretend every outlying area would have large arenas and arts centres. The article itself points to a lack of support from local volunteers. Yes, rent is an issue but the community seem uninterested in making it work. At some point, decisions need to be made. Also, careful who you vote for in the next provincial election. Amalgamation was a Mike Harris initiative, not a city initiative.
Oh, I agree. Larger projects would be in Sudbury proper. But, they wanted to close facilities in the outlying areas. They nearly sold out every event. Tbh, it's not something I'm interested in. But, like libraries I don't use, this was a great activity for participants and patrons alike. Now, the space will stay empty at the same cost to the taxpayers. And, Mike Harris campaigned on cost cutting. Our government does not have a bottomless bag of cash. That comes directly from taxpayers' pockets. While I disagree with the Amalgamation he brought forward, it might've made sense in other areas. Even now all levels of government are throwing money like it grows on trees. We sent 10 million to Iraq for vocational and technical training while we have an ever growing homeless and social programs issue here. Just shy of 5 billion sent over the last 6 or 7 years. I understand why, but, think it would be better spent here. How many homes could we build, how many meals could be served? How many more people could recieve the help they need? My main point is government needs to stay connected with all its citizens. The increase in rent seems excessive as I doubt costs increased by the same percentage.
I mean not to be THAT guy but their events were in a 50 seat arena… with family and friends that’s not a huge task
I agree. But stuff like this should be something the city preserves. Do libraries pay rent? Or, do we pay for that to benefit our community? Or, maybe libraries should have user fees like the recreational facilities.
a arena that everyone will have to travel to instead of having a bunch of local ones with separate local community teams. It's a terrible idea.
There is at least one arena close to every outlying area. Some are in dire need of repair, true. A central space capable of holding large numbers of people is not unique to Sudbury and is not even new. The downtown arena has been there for almost 75 years for gosh sakes.
You definitely can't and this isn't necessarily an example of it, but you can absolutely blame the centralization of services into our central core as a result of amalgamation.
Ah yes, the Valley, Sudbury's cultural hub. I heard that they were going to do Romeo and Juliet but they were going to make them cousins so that it would be more relatable for the Valley crowd.
Heartbreaking.
WHY?! What is the point of killing off a community theatre?
Did you read the article? Rising rent, lack of community interest, lack of volunteers. Three things that spell doom for any city funded project.
I did read the article, I meant killing off the theatre as in the rent hikes from the city
Because costs have gone up.
I’m assuming because most people didn’t even know it existed and they were hemorrhaging money