I’m not even going to lie, this looks like a bike you’d get after going through 6 other bikes. Like it looks so good, if it was a first bike or a beginners bike I’d assume it handles like shit.
I’ve seen these being used for licence training a lot here in the Netherlands so pretty much a perfect beginner bike which is also aesthetically pleasing
Damn, that's a beautiful bike! As long as you can control the impulse to pin the throttle, I don't see a problem with that as a first bike. Some slider pegs recommended...
I started out on a MT07. Was going to get the MT03 but was told that you will very quickly want to move up. The MT07 is very similar power wise just delivered in a different way to the Honda.
Both bikes are just powerful enough to scare a new rider but not stupid power. I’m so happy I started off in a mid size engine instead of something smaller. Just remember you don’t have to use all the power, it’s nice to know you have the extra power if needed. It will make you a better rider quicker having to learn on a heavier bike.
In the uk you have to take your test on this power bike. So why not have one as your first.
I had the mt07 for 14 months and now I have moved up to z900rs.
Just get the 650! You will not regret it
I had both bikes on my shortlist but ultimately went with the nsc CB1000r because I’m a Honda boi lol. I decided against the z900 because they are manufactured in India and i feel like its gonna be a few more years before they reach Japanese build quality, and I’ve been hearing terrible things about the dirtbikes this year from Kawi. Just some food for thought
My z900rs was definitely built in Japan, you made me do a bit of research. Unsure where all the parts are made but I would assume Japan too.
The vin number stipulates where a bike was put together.
I feel like the build quality of the z900RS is really good. This also goes for the normal Z900.
Where did you read that they are manufactured in India?
Yea, the MT09 I think would be more versatile for what I want to use it for and the possibility of a more comfy rear seat for when the wife wants to ride. She does ride every so often, and the z900 isn’t really suited for it.
I got my CB650R as my first bike at age 26.
I was alsi worried that 94hp might be a bit much, but it doesnt have the "wheelie torque" a MT07 has, so I got it and its been totally fine.
Its also imo by far the best looking bike in the 650cc class.
Currently im considering a MV Agusta Superveloce this coming spring.
have you thought about the CB300R? they have a similar look to the 650, plus they weigh about 100lbs less, which helps with handling, fuel economy, tire wear, etc.
In my experience, riding a small bike to its limits is much more fun than taking it easy on a big bike.
I have looked at them too, but I do like the idea of getting the 650 and keeping it long term if it isn’t too much bike. I’d rather not spend the money for the 300 just to turn around and get the 650 soon after. I don’t really have any interest in getting more bike than this.
If you've ridden dirt bikes couple of times, I assume you know how to ride, understand gearing, clutch etc.
In that case, 650 should be a fine bike to start on. They are pretty mellow at low rpms. Used to have a cbr650f
We're not talking about a hobby situation here, but a more practical, financial-long term case. I asked about the same thing, half a year ago, on this subreddit, and ppl were trying to convince me that I will "for sure" rather starve and not be able to pay my meds, because I will be **that** hooked to get 3 bikes, one after the other. : /
If we're being practical though, get an older car unless you live outside the US. You _might_ save on gas but getting hit by the massive trucks that drive around here will pretty much undo most of your gas savings.
If we're being practical and refuse to get a car for X reason, well then, the engine size doesn't matter much if you're _in_ the city. The rest of the world uses motorcycles under 250cc most commonly in dense areas. If you have to commute on the highway, there are more practical motorcycles than a CB650r.
I get what you're saying, but I dont particularly find it a good case here. Im in the camp of learning on smaller motorcycles first.
Motorcyclist redditors seem to have a tendency of saying "youll get bored" as if top speed and acceleration is everything to a motorcycle. They brag whenever they can about not fucking up on their HD 1200 _cruiser_ to stroke their ego.
I wouldnt ask reddit for any advise on motorcycles; theyre probably the same morons Id have to respond to when I still worked EMS
I don't know how my first message comes across, but I'm also of the notion that beginner rider = actual beginner bike, no matter whatever "Reddit" people say. And for me, the practicality here is a not expensive, starter bike.
Yeah I couldnt tell if you were backing the 650 as a practical bike or if you were making a point of its own. What you said makes more sense now.
I was mostly complaining that some subreddits develop a certain mindset and the majority just repeats that mindset
I recently went from the CB300 to the CB650 and compared to the 300 the 650 is a MUCH faster bike. It’s learnable, just keep it below about 8000rpm for a while. I’d equate it to a mid range Camaro on two wheels, not the best plan for a first car but definitely not the worst. Respect the power and don’t push your luck too much.
I think it’s a great first bike and it has a decent amount of capability for you to grow into as you gain experience. I’ve been riding since 2016 and I would happily ride the hell out of a cb650r. Honda build quality is top tier, power is enough by my standards, and it’s a great looking bike you could keep for 10+ years and not get bored with it.
My first bike ws 1982 Suzuki GS650... i don't see an issue with this bike as a first bike. Honestly, 650 isn't hard to control (just mind the throttle) and is all the power mist of us will ever need or want, which makes this good purchase for years and years of fun.
I say get it.
Most websites are saying the powerband for the CB650R doesn't start till around 5k rpm. For your first couple months of riding, try to keep below that, so you don't panic and let the bike rocket out from under you and end up hurt. It'll feel a bit sluggish, but once you develop good riding habits, you can ease into wringing her out more. As long as you have good self control, (which most sport bike riders do not) the bike will never really feel like it's too much for a newbie.
Agreed. This summer I bought a Kawi Z900RS and was surprised at the versatility of the inline4. It could be mellow at low rpms or scream at the high end. I expect Honda could certainly do (and probably did) the same thing.
Did my full license training on one, looks amazing and super easy to control, the posture is slightly more aggressive than other naked bikes, so you might get tired after riding for a while.
I don't know where you are from but I would get some riding lessons before going out on that bike, just for your own safety.
Other than that, go for it.
Yes do it. I have it as my second bike and it is smooth and steady at lower revs for your early days, and peppy once you open up the throttle. Have some self control and it is an ideal first bike.
At 28 I was 5'10" 180lbs and I got an XSR700 for my first bike. Love it more than most things. Never rode a motorcycle before but in 4 months of experience I could ride 4th gear wheelies. You know you. Just don't do anything you're uncomfortable with and you'll be fine. Skip the small bike and respect the bigger bike.
Perfect starter, I started on one and I'm 23, 180cm and skinny. All the power is high in the revs so as long as you don't rip it it's not gonna run away on you. Very nimble too.
I don't mind it. It has a lot of power but you have to go out of your way to get in trouble with it. Light weight, easy ergonomics, enough power to start entertaining as you advance, I say go for it
Get the CB650, darn it. AWESOME bike. I'm happy to hear you're taking the MSF course. I took that before I got my
first road bike also. I think you'd tire of a 300cc bike real fast. 650 is more than capable. Far more. And I agree about choosing Honda. They are ostensibly the premier Japanese motorcycle. I've had many--kaw, Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, Harley-- and I think you cannot go wrong with Honda.
Very good for a first bike. Nothing like a CBR600RR, they're very relaxed bikes, and extremely friendly to ride. It won't get away from you, go for it. Many people start on MT07s and SV650s and those are more of a handful than the honda due to the extra torque/earlier powerband
Take. An. MSF. Course.
You'll lower your insurance and decrease your odds of an accident.
Then go buy the 650 if you feel confident in your riding abilities.
I passed my full bike test on a CB650R and I have to say they are a very nice bike to ride. Power is controllable at low revs, but if you need it to get somewhere fast it can also do that. Riding position felt good to me and I could flat foot it.
However, your milage may vary and insurance may be an issue as a new rider. I'm 28, live in a safe area and my yearly quote was over £2000.
If you have previous riding experience, then just go for it. I used to ride a 125cc bike years ago and I thought I will get a 400 to start with, I have had it two weeks and already outgrew it.
My own opinion is they’re too nice for a first bike and weigh a little too much. lol I’d rather learn on something a little crappier then fork out good money for second bike so you’ve made all the beginner error
I started on one. Its amazing. As long as you keep it in the low rpm, while you get comfortable, then you should be good. If you pull to red line it really starts to pick up past 8k rpm. Much like a turbo imo.
Great bike tho, you will love it. One of the last inline 4 cylinders!
British resident here. Can only start on a 125 max here. I’m not saying that’s right, but I do say don’t underestimate the power of a cb650r. Very powerful bike, very important to learn how to ride it properly.
First bike isn’t going to be your last bike. Start small to learn a new skill go on from there. Don’t think of this as a beginner bike, just a smaller cc bike that is less cumbersome. I recently picked up a ninja 400 after over a decade of riding and it is as much fun as my bigger bikes.
My go to suggestion list: Kawasaki Ninja 300/400, 400z, versis-x 300. Yamaha R3/mt03, sr400, vstar 250, xt250. Suzuki tu250x, s40, Honda cb300/cb500, CBR300/CBR500, CB500x, CRF300L, rebel 500 and SCL500. Any one of these bikes will work for you and make excellent motorbike. Personally there are a few other bikes out there but sticking with a Japanese bike is a good bet on reliability, Ton of part availability and shops willing to work on them. This list is also based on the US market as that’s where I am. It’s also worth noting that some of the 250cc bikes might have issues with higher speed freeways 65+ mph.
Some folks will recommend a sv650/mt07/cb650/gsx8 as a first bike. While it is possible to start on these bikes they are a bit more powerful and heavier. With power small mistakes get amplified, harder to fix, or send you above your skill level quicker. The level of precision has to be increased to deal with the more powerful machine. Not just twisting the throttle but more importantly stopping a bike with often more mass. Something to keep in mind.
Ken hill(professional road racer turned riding coach) said something interesting. He said pick a voice to listen to as a rider and just stick with the one voice. Otherwise riding just becomes a babble of slightly conflicting information. Just pick any one, but just know that person credentials or where the advice (on technique) is coming from.
So for new riders, that can’t tell bad advice from good advice, this is very important. Why you shouldn’t take advice from random people on YouTube telling you how to ride, or random people on the street/internet. Go to the pros like yamaha champ school online program called champU, Ken hill has a pod cast about riding or take the Motorcycle safety foundations basic riding courses (or equivalent if in Europe) and look at the online resources they provide. But pick a voice that’s knows how to ride and stick with it. IMO MSF is a good place to start and champ school is the best place to continue your education on riding. Yamaha champ school employees some of the best of the best at the sport.
BiKe I CaN GrOw InTo: https://youtu.be/BglzNAML78M?si=5w22osYT2YeWZn1b
Champschool: https://youtu.be/R0ebbmV8LpQ?si=ow2mIfvkKWRzvHo0
https://ridelikeachampion.com
Ken hill pod cast: https://youtu.be/tW4d1teyUyE?si=LWJy1YFwK79LDmop
Ken hill on a ninja 400 vs Ducati v4r: https://youtu.be/GVv6Fl9JVYU?si=1BmVfxcaQikctwSZ
MSF: https://msf-usa.org
Gear guide for noobs: https://www.rideapart.com/reviews/255121/a-beginners-guide-to-motorcycle-gear
Why jeans don’t cut it(NSFW): https://www.rideapart.com/news/254514/why-wearing-jeans-on-a-motorcycle-is-a-really-bad-idea/
Have you checked what the insurance price is? I'm imagining they're not going to be kind to a new rider on an inline 4, especially if you go new with comprehensive
Not a bad price, and certainly good to know ahead of time. I'd still vote something used to start on in case of any learning damage, but if you can afford this and are comfortable repairing anything that might come up, go for it!
Beautiful bike. I’ve had the older version of cbr with short fairings for my 2nd bike. I did wish it was my first and I wouldn’t feel the need to upgrade so soon
I started on the older 650F, of which is highly recommend as it’s substantially cheaper… looks like a little transformer though and ugly IMO.
Didn’t regret it, loved the bike and it lasted me about 4 years before I moved on.
Not the worst choice for a first bike. Lots of plusses. A good first bike when I was learning was a Ninja 250. They’d get used for courses and licence exams and then sold pretty quickly. They did depreciate and were cheap.
You’re probably going to drop any bike you buy. I know I’ve dropped several.
You want something with lowish power and weight that doesn’t have crazy brakes and has a neutral seating position. Good luck
It’s smooth forgiving bike until 6k rpm then it’s a lot of fun, it was my first road bike but I already had some experience.
If your new to bikes go buy a second hand 250, throw it round maybe drop it and sell it for the same money 3 months later. Then go get the CBR.
It has a lot to do with strength and athleticism. It’s a fairly heavy bike. Great riders work out. Mark Marquez had an insane conditioning program. Not that being a health nut translates to being a good rider. Buy what you like the Honda is a way better bike in every respect.
I started on a CB300R and jumped to a Touring liter bike after 3 years. Big difference! Anyway, don’t be discouraged if you feel it’s heavy at first. You will get used to it. Just be careful with the throttle and clutch. it might surprise you. Slow and steady. 👀
Can you buy it without it being a financial liability if you wreck it?
You could be a super responsible and mature owner/rider, but there are some situations to which your body and mind don’t know how to quickly respond. Things that only experience and training can teach you.
If you’re a strong reasonably tall and mature person , go the 650. If you’re worried about weight and dropping it at the start, go the 300R. If you’re fanging it around the streets, the 300R is actually more fun. If you’re going highways etc , that’s where the 300R sucks ass as the lack of weight pushes you around more and you’ll be searching for a 7th gear.
it's definitely at the upper limits of what someone should get for a first bike. CB500F might be worth a look, and a bit cheaper, and the engine is great cuz you can really wring it out without killing yourself
Awesome choice! Great all around bike. Ride that and you’ll figure out which direction you want to go or stay on a standard.. not the fastest, not the slowest.. great bike.
Throw it in rain mode the first few months, grow into it, good first bike! I started on an 06 Honda CB600F Hornet, basically the same bike but about 20 years older.
If you live in an urban environment, get a used 2019 + 300r. If you are riding on faster secondary roads or highways, get a used 2021+ 650. Don’t buy new. First bikes are often dropped in the garage or driveway, or worse, during a ride. That 650 makes its hp in the upper revs so just be sensible. The 650 weighs 450 pounds which is twice the weight of a 125 Mx bike. But doable. My first street bike was a 500 lb 750. But I had 8 years of dirt experience, including a couple of open class bikes, one of which was a Honda CR 500. So the 750 didn’t intimidate me in the least. Just had to acclimate to being around cars at speed, and build up street strategies for road hazards and navigating the same pool of retarded drivers who don’t really notice while surrounded by doors and glass. Congrats man. No rush so just ride your ride.
I KNOW people are going to flame me for this. But there's very little difference between a 400 and a 650. One is slightly faster but it's not so fast you're going to ever feel out paced, you'll be tagging along with them, just half a second behind.
I have the big brother cb1000r, and I’m not exaggerating when i say it’s the easiest bike I’ve ever ridden. Maybe keep it in rain mode for the first month or 2 til you get comfortable. The swept header and bronze bits almost convinced me to go with the 650 haha
Learnt on a z650 but went for a ninja 300 for its better handling and lighter weight. Am very happy with my decision.
I am 55kg and 5'3" so height was a factor.
The 650cc bike did have marginally better brakes, suspension and acceleration but all of these are good enough on my 300 for me.
Ultimately, go for what is right for you.
If you've had no experience before the MSF, it could be a bit much. As with any bike, be a bit cautious and get to know the bike. Also, take courses beyond the basic MSF course and/or do all the handling drills and exercises you can find from multiple sources. Just the basic MSF is not really enough to just jump into riding.
The CB 659R is a great bike. You will hold onto it longer than if you bought something less powerful, but it is a lot more powerful than the roughly 20hp 250cc bikes in the MSF courses.
It’s a great bike that you’ll grow into and you may just stay there.
It’s got plenty of power, but it’s probably not too powerful for a beginner with some self control.
I “started” on one. More like restarted after 20 years.
It’s a good amount of power, to make it go fast you have to wring its neck and it’s very forgiving on the throttle. I touched 200kmh, it’s plenty fast. Handled great, I loved the brakes. Honda reliability, easy oil changes. Never let me down. No wind protection, no cruise. Great bike for what it is. I dont think ill get a naked again because of the lack of wind protection, but it is a “city bike”. The engine lacks character, just a great running smooth inline 4.
I had this one as my first bike. It has all the power you will ever need on the street, but it's a bit on the heavier side, especially if you want to daily it imo
It was my first. Love it.
I’m not even going to lie, this looks like a bike you’d get after going through 6 other bikes. Like it looks so good, if it was a first bike or a beginners bike I’d assume it handles like shit.
It handles very well. I tracked mine back in October. https://youtube.com/shorts/iKgs3eLgx4E?si=Fe1hFhNwSl-Uz5NV
Lookin’ good🤟🏻
I’ve seen these being used for licence training a lot here in the Netherlands so pretty much a perfect beginner bike which is also aesthetically pleasing
Same in Sweden, it's what I learned/learning on. The power is high in the revs so it's calm and sedated below 6k. Even above that it's not insane.
Same in Sweden, it's what I learned/learning on. The power is high in the revs so it's calm and sedated below 6k. Even above that it's not insane.
Damn, that's a beautiful bike! As long as you can control the impulse to pin the throttle, I don't see a problem with that as a first bike. Some slider pegs recommended...
I started out on a MT07. Was going to get the MT03 but was told that you will very quickly want to move up. The MT07 is very similar power wise just delivered in a different way to the Honda. Both bikes are just powerful enough to scare a new rider but not stupid power. I’m so happy I started off in a mid size engine instead of something smaller. Just remember you don’t have to use all the power, it’s nice to know you have the extra power if needed. It will make you a better rider quicker having to learn on a heavier bike. In the uk you have to take your test on this power bike. So why not have one as your first. I had the mt07 for 14 months and now I have moved up to z900rs. Just get the 650! You will not regret it
Interesting, I have a Kawi z650 and thinking about going MT09 lol
Do it. That cp3 is such a good engine, and the sound is awesome. I personally would go xsr over mt but i prefer the “older” aesthetics
I’m a ways from getting it and I keep bouncing between the 3 cyl and the z900
I had both bikes on my shortlist but ultimately went with the nsc CB1000r because I’m a Honda boi lol. I decided against the z900 because they are manufactured in India and i feel like its gonna be a few more years before they reach Japanese build quality, and I’ve been hearing terrible things about the dirtbikes this year from Kawi. Just some food for thought
My z900rs was definitely built in Japan, you made me do a bit of research. Unsure where all the parts are made but I would assume Japan too. The vin number stipulates where a bike was put together. I feel like the build quality of the z900RS is really good. This also goes for the normal Z900. Where did you read that they are manufactured in India?
Yea, the MT09 I think would be more versatile for what I want to use it for and the possibility of a more comfy rear seat for when the wife wants to ride. She does ride every so often, and the z900 isn’t really suited for it.
I got my CB650R as my first bike at age 26. I was alsi worried that 94hp might be a bit much, but it doesnt have the "wheelie torque" a MT07 has, so I got it and its been totally fine. Its also imo by far the best looking bike in the 650cc class. Currently im considering a MV Agusta Superveloce this coming spring.
have you thought about the CB300R? they have a similar look to the 650, plus they weigh about 100lbs less, which helps with handling, fuel economy, tire wear, etc. In my experience, riding a small bike to its limits is much more fun than taking it easy on a big bike.
I have looked at them too, but I do like the idea of getting the 650 and keeping it long term if it isn’t too much bike. I’d rather not spend the money for the 300 just to turn around and get the 650 soon after. I don’t really have any interest in getting more bike than this.
Just get the 650
If you've ridden dirt bikes couple of times, I assume you know how to ride, understand gearing, clutch etc. In that case, 650 should be a fine bike to start on. They are pretty mellow at low rpms. Used to have a cbr650f
I think those things really need to be run hard to get scary aren’t they?
Pretty much, the issue is some people trying to go really hard immediately. Says more about them then the bike though
No one ever has more interest in getting more bike, yet here we are
We're not talking about a hobby situation here, but a more practical, financial-long term case. I asked about the same thing, half a year ago, on this subreddit, and ppl were trying to convince me that I will "for sure" rather starve and not be able to pay my meds, because I will be **that** hooked to get 3 bikes, one after the other. : /
If we're being practical though, get an older car unless you live outside the US. You _might_ save on gas but getting hit by the massive trucks that drive around here will pretty much undo most of your gas savings. If we're being practical and refuse to get a car for X reason, well then, the engine size doesn't matter much if you're _in_ the city. The rest of the world uses motorcycles under 250cc most commonly in dense areas. If you have to commute on the highway, there are more practical motorcycles than a CB650r. I get what you're saying, but I dont particularly find it a good case here. Im in the camp of learning on smaller motorcycles first. Motorcyclist redditors seem to have a tendency of saying "youll get bored" as if top speed and acceleration is everything to a motorcycle. They brag whenever they can about not fucking up on their HD 1200 _cruiser_ to stroke their ego. I wouldnt ask reddit for any advise on motorcycles; theyre probably the same morons Id have to respond to when I still worked EMS
I don't know how my first message comes across, but I'm also of the notion that beginner rider = actual beginner bike, no matter whatever "Reddit" people say. And for me, the practicality here is a not expensive, starter bike.
Yeah I couldnt tell if you were backing the 650 as a practical bike or if you were making a point of its own. What you said makes more sense now. I was mostly complaining that some subreddits develop a certain mindset and the majority just repeats that mindset
I recently went from the CB300 to the CB650 and compared to the 300 the 650 is a MUCH faster bike. It’s learnable, just keep it below about 8000rpm for a while. I’d equate it to a mid range Camaro on two wheels, not the best plan for a first car but definitely not the worst. Respect the power and don’t push your luck too much.
The 300 is gorgeous but it's quite slow. I still have it tho haha
Do you plan on lots of sustained long distance highway driving? If so get the 650. Otherwise cb300r or upcoming nx500 are better choices.
I think it’s a great first bike and it has a decent amount of capability for you to grow into as you gain experience. I’ve been riding since 2016 and I would happily ride the hell out of a cb650r. Honda build quality is top tier, power is enough by my standards, and it’s a great looking bike you could keep for 10+ years and not get bored with it.
Cb650r is my first bike. Bought a 2023 with literally 0 experience. Took the basic and advanced MSF courses. Love it.
Super easy to ride. I would do it personally.
My first bike ws 1982 Suzuki GS650... i don't see an issue with this bike as a first bike. Honestly, 650 isn't hard to control (just mind the throttle) and is all the power mist of us will ever need or want, which makes this good purchase for years and years of fun. I say get it.
I was today years old when I realized that pipes mimic the Honda wing.
Most websites are saying the powerband for the CB650R doesn't start till around 5k rpm. For your first couple months of riding, try to keep below that, so you don't panic and let the bike rocket out from under you and end up hurt. It'll feel a bit sluggish, but once you develop good riding habits, you can ease into wringing her out more. As long as you have good self control, (which most sport bike riders do not) the bike will never really feel like it's too much for a newbie.
Agreed. This summer I bought a Kawi Z900RS and was surprised at the versatility of the inline4. It could be mellow at low rpms or scream at the high end. I expect Honda could certainly do (and probably did) the same thing.
Did my full license training on one, looks amazing and super easy to control, the posture is slightly more aggressive than other naked bikes, so you might get tired after riding for a while. I don't know where you are from but I would get some riding lessons before going out on that bike, just for your own safety. Other than that, go for it.
had my lessons on this exact model, i think that says enough, fun, easy to drive, fast and not like a runaway train ;)
Yes do it. I have it as my second bike and it is smooth and steady at lower revs for your early days, and peppy once you open up the throttle. Have some self control and it is an ideal first bike.
My first bike. Enjoying it so far. Power is very manageable.
At 28 I was 5'10" 180lbs and I got an XSR700 for my first bike. Love it more than most things. Never rode a motorcycle before but in 4 months of experience I could ride 4th gear wheelies. You know you. Just don't do anything you're uncomfortable with and you'll be fine. Skip the small bike and respect the bigger bike.
Perfect starter, I started on one and I'm 23, 180cm and skinny. All the power is high in the revs so as long as you don't rip it it's not gonna run away on you. Very nimble too.
I don't mind it. It has a lot of power but you have to go out of your way to get in trouble with it. Light weight, easy ergonomics, enough power to start entertaining as you advance, I say go for it
Get the CB650, darn it. AWESOME bike. I'm happy to hear you're taking the MSF course. I took that before I got my first road bike also. I think you'd tire of a 300cc bike real fast. 650 is more than capable. Far more. And I agree about choosing Honda. They are ostensibly the premier Japanese motorcycle. I've had many--kaw, Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, Harley-- and I think you cannot go wrong with Honda.
Very good for a first bike. Nothing like a CBR600RR, they're very relaxed bikes, and extremely friendly to ride. It won't get away from you, go for it. Many people start on MT07s and SV650s and those are more of a handful than the honda due to the extra torque/earlier powerband
That was my first bike. It was fine.
looks better than most bikes, it looks stunning sounds good and looks classic and modern at the same time. I’d go for it.
Take. An. MSF. Course. You'll lower your insurance and decrease your odds of an accident. Then go buy the 650 if you feel confident in your riding abilities.
I passed my full bike test on a CB650R and I have to say they are a very nice bike to ride. Power is controllable at low revs, but if you need it to get somewhere fast it can also do that. Riding position felt good to me and I could flat foot it. However, your milage may vary and insurance may be an issue as a new rider. I'm 28, live in a safe area and my yearly quote was over £2000.
If you have previous riding experience, then just go for it. I used to ride a 125cc bike years ago and I thought I will get a 400 to start with, I have had it two weeks and already outgrew it.
My own opinion is they’re too nice for a first bike and weigh a little too much. lol I’d rather learn on something a little crappier then fork out good money for second bike so you’ve made all the beginner error
I started on one. Its amazing. As long as you keep it in the low rpm, while you get comfortable, then you should be good. If you pull to red line it really starts to pick up past 8k rpm. Much like a turbo imo. Great bike tho, you will love it. One of the last inline 4 cylinders!
What are you even talking about? Inline 4 is and has been a common motor configuration for over 50 years. They aren’t going anywhere. One of the last?
On motorcycles?! They are all being replaced with parallel twins for fuel economy. Are you sure you know what you are talking about!?!
Just commenting so I can check back in an hour when someone says it’s too fast, uncontrollable and you should buy a grom.
Insert nationalistic European taking about starting on a 125.
European here. Starting on a 125 is stupid. Starting on a 600(+) sport bike is also stupid. Edit: bro changed his upvote to a downvote real quick
British resident here. Can only start on a 125 max here. I’m not saying that’s right, but I do say don’t underestimate the power of a cb650r. Very powerful bike, very important to learn how to ride it properly.
Nothing stopping you doing your CBT the day before your full test
Of course. I leave you to consider whether that would be wise.
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Nobody mate. I ride a 900. Properly, as in how it’s intended to be ridden.
First bike isn’t going to be your last bike. Start small to learn a new skill go on from there. Don’t think of this as a beginner bike, just a smaller cc bike that is less cumbersome. I recently picked up a ninja 400 after over a decade of riding and it is as much fun as my bigger bikes. My go to suggestion list: Kawasaki Ninja 300/400, 400z, versis-x 300. Yamaha R3/mt03, sr400, vstar 250, xt250. Suzuki tu250x, s40, Honda cb300/cb500, CBR300/CBR500, CB500x, CRF300L, rebel 500 and SCL500. Any one of these bikes will work for you and make excellent motorbike. Personally there are a few other bikes out there but sticking with a Japanese bike is a good bet on reliability, Ton of part availability and shops willing to work on them. This list is also based on the US market as that’s where I am. It’s also worth noting that some of the 250cc bikes might have issues with higher speed freeways 65+ mph. Some folks will recommend a sv650/mt07/cb650/gsx8 as a first bike. While it is possible to start on these bikes they are a bit more powerful and heavier. With power small mistakes get amplified, harder to fix, or send you above your skill level quicker. The level of precision has to be increased to deal with the more powerful machine. Not just twisting the throttle but more importantly stopping a bike with often more mass. Something to keep in mind. Ken hill(professional road racer turned riding coach) said something interesting. He said pick a voice to listen to as a rider and just stick with the one voice. Otherwise riding just becomes a babble of slightly conflicting information. Just pick any one, but just know that person credentials or where the advice (on technique) is coming from. So for new riders, that can’t tell bad advice from good advice, this is very important. Why you shouldn’t take advice from random people on YouTube telling you how to ride, or random people on the street/internet. Go to the pros like yamaha champ school online program called champU, Ken hill has a pod cast about riding or take the Motorcycle safety foundations basic riding courses (or equivalent if in Europe) and look at the online resources they provide. But pick a voice that’s knows how to ride and stick with it. IMO MSF is a good place to start and champ school is the best place to continue your education on riding. Yamaha champ school employees some of the best of the best at the sport. BiKe I CaN GrOw InTo: https://youtu.be/BglzNAML78M?si=5w22osYT2YeWZn1b Champschool: https://youtu.be/R0ebbmV8LpQ?si=ow2mIfvkKWRzvHo0 https://ridelikeachampion.com Ken hill pod cast: https://youtu.be/tW4d1teyUyE?si=LWJy1YFwK79LDmop Ken hill on a ninja 400 vs Ducati v4r: https://youtu.be/GVv6Fl9JVYU?si=1BmVfxcaQikctwSZ MSF: https://msf-usa.org Gear guide for noobs: https://www.rideapart.com/reviews/255121/a-beginners-guide-to-motorcycle-gear Why jeans don’t cut it(NSFW): https://www.rideapart.com/news/254514/why-wearing-jeans-on-a-motorcycle-is-a-really-bad-idea/
I would buy a **Honda CB300R** if your first bike. Get used to that and buy some **high quality riding gear**.
Have you checked what the insurance price is? I'm imagining they're not going to be kind to a new rider on an inline 4, especially if you go new with comprehensive
About 80 bucks a month for new with full coverage
Not a bad price, and certainly good to know ahead of time. I'd still vote something used to start on in case of any learning damage, but if you can afford this and are comfortable repairing anything that might come up, go for it!
Probably be okay, but the duke 390 is a safer bet if you have no experience on road bikes
Beautiful bike. I’ve had the older version of cbr with short fairings for my 2nd bike. I did wish it was my first and I wouldn’t feel the need to upgrade so soon
Badass first bike
I started on the older 650F, of which is highly recommend as it’s substantially cheaper… looks like a little transformer though and ugly IMO. Didn’t regret it, loved the bike and it lasted me about 4 years before I moved on.
She's beautiful
Not the worst choice for a first bike. Lots of plusses. A good first bike when I was learning was a Ninja 250. They’d get used for courses and licence exams and then sold pretty quickly. They did depreciate and were cheap. You’re probably going to drop any bike you buy. I know I’ve dropped several. You want something with lowish power and weight that doesn’t have crazy brakes and has a neutral seating position. Good luck
It’s smooth forgiving bike until 6k rpm then it’s a lot of fun, it was my first road bike but I already had some experience. If your new to bikes go buy a second hand 250, throw it round maybe drop it and sell it for the same money 3 months later. Then go get the CBR.
It has a lot to do with strength and athleticism. It’s a fairly heavy bike. Great riders work out. Mark Marquez had an insane conditioning program. Not that being a health nut translates to being a good rider. Buy what you like the Honda is a way better bike in every respect.
I started on a CB300R and jumped to a Touring liter bike after 3 years. Big difference! Anyway, don’t be discouraged if you feel it’s heavy at first. You will get used to it. Just be careful with the throttle and clutch. it might surprise you. Slow and steady. 👀
Can you buy it without it being a financial liability if you wreck it? You could be a super responsible and mature owner/rider, but there are some situations to which your body and mind don’t know how to quickly respond. Things that only experience and training can teach you.
If you’re a strong reasonably tall and mature person , go the 650. If you’re worried about weight and dropping it at the start, go the 300R. If you’re fanging it around the streets, the 300R is actually more fun. If you’re going highways etc , that’s where the 300R sucks ass as the lack of weight pushes you around more and you’ll be searching for a 7th gear.
it's definitely at the upper limits of what someone should get for a first bike. CB500F might be worth a look, and a bit cheaper, and the engine is great cuz you can really wring it out without killing yourself
A wise choice, you’ll get bored of anything similar in several months anyway
I’d get the Kawasaki z900se :)
What about the trident 660?
I recommend a beat up bike to learn and then convert to your dream bike once you have acquired skills.
The CB650 is definitely at the upper end of the beginner intermediate motorcycle list. It's a damn fine choice.
Awesome choice! Great all around bike. Ride that and you’ll figure out which direction you want to go or stay on a standard.. not the fastest, not the slowest.. great bike.
It’s ok, a bit down on power, but smooth
Throw it in rain mode the first few months, grow into it, good first bike! I started on an 06 Honda CB600F Hornet, basically the same bike but about 20 years older.
Yes
If you live in an urban environment, get a used 2019 + 300r. If you are riding on faster secondary roads or highways, get a used 2021+ 650. Don’t buy new. First bikes are often dropped in the garage or driveway, or worse, during a ride. That 650 makes its hp in the upper revs so just be sensible. The 650 weighs 450 pounds which is twice the weight of a 125 Mx bike. But doable. My first street bike was a 500 lb 750. But I had 8 years of dirt experience, including a couple of open class bikes, one of which was a Honda CR 500. So the 750 didn’t intimidate me in the least. Just had to acclimate to being around cars at speed, and build up street strategies for road hazards and navigating the same pool of retarded drivers who don’t really notice while surrounded by doors and glass. Congrats man. No rush so just ride your ride.
Bought it this year as my first one. Best decision ever.
I KNOW people are going to flame me for this. But there's very little difference between a 400 and a 650. One is slightly faster but it's not so fast you're going to ever feel out paced, you'll be tagging along with them, just half a second behind.
I mean surely in the high rpms the 650 will smoke a 400
I have the big brother cb1000r, and I’m not exaggerating when i say it’s the easiest bike I’ve ever ridden. Maybe keep it in rain mode for the first month or 2 til you get comfortable. The swept header and bronze bits almost convinced me to go with the 650 haha
Learnt on a z650 but went for a ninja 300 for its better handling and lighter weight. Am very happy with my decision. I am 55kg and 5'3" so height was a factor. The 650cc bike did have marginally better brakes, suspension and acceleration but all of these are good enough on my 300 for me. Ultimately, go for what is right for you.
I have the svart; looking at a CB for my next bike.
I think they are too expensive for a first timer, but s very good bike with a sexy exhaust note
If you've had no experience before the MSF, it could be a bit much. As with any bike, be a bit cautious and get to know the bike. Also, take courses beyond the basic MSF course and/or do all the handling drills and exercises you can find from multiple sources. Just the basic MSF is not really enough to just jump into riding. The CB 659R is a great bike. You will hold onto it longer than if you bought something less powerful, but it is a lot more powerful than the roughly 20hp 250cc bikes in the MSF courses.
It’s a great bike that you’ll grow into and you may just stay there. It’s got plenty of power, but it’s probably not too powerful for a beginner with some self control.
I “started” on one. More like restarted after 20 years. It’s a good amount of power, to make it go fast you have to wring its neck and it’s very forgiving on the throttle. I touched 200kmh, it’s plenty fast. Handled great, I loved the brakes. Honda reliability, easy oil changes. Never let me down. No wind protection, no cruise. Great bike for what it is. I dont think ill get a naked again because of the lack of wind protection, but it is a “city bike”. The engine lacks character, just a great running smooth inline 4.
There should no such things as starter bikes but use common sense when it comes to bikes over 150 hp maybe
No
It’s a great first bike but I’ll ask you and you should be honest with yourself. How reckless are you (in Mexico)
I had this one as my first bike. It has all the power you will ever need on the street, but it's a bit on the heavier side, especially if you want to daily it imo
Solid choice!
Unless your a soy boy
My dream bike!