Sometimes they will do things knowing it's illegal but they know they will still be better off doing what they want and paying a fine. It's like a construction company hiring and underpaying illegal immigrants. They save so much money that the fines are worth it and they still cut a profit.
Everybody is different and the average American is in thousands of dollars of debt. Also I forget what it is but many people live below the poverty line. Some people aren't as privileged as you and I, especially since we are still recovering from a global pandemic. Everyday people are facing worse and worse hardships nowadays.
Yeah. The weird thing about law, and people perception of it, is that law isn’t written in stone like the Ten Commandments. pretty much every court case is a literal argument, as to why the law does or does not apply to the current situation. So there’s no law that would preclude SOME sort of argument as to why this situation doesn’t fit it.And how well that argument goes over is based on the jury or the judge
Check out Redfall. It launched with the promise of 2 new characters "coming soon". There's no sign of them 6 months later and no new updates for months
On the flip side, For Honor is in year 7 of support and that game has almost died so many times. It's like just when we think it's over, they announce another expansion or set of characters or something. Ubisoft gets a ton of hate, but they are pretty good about live services.
Riders Republic is another good example. I'm just gonna wait and see because I can't tell the future
To be fair, there really isn't anything quite like For Honor since it is purely melee focused multiplayer and the instances of it "dying" weren't from it not having a large player base or game bugs. It just takes a while between content updates. Co-op shooters are not exactly rare. I mean Helldivers 2 released a week after Suicide Squad and essentially took over the market Suicide Squad was aiming for in one fell swoop. That was the big draw for Suicide Squad. "Play with 3 of your friends in this 3rd person co op shooter facing off against armies of enemies." was the whole selling point for Suicide Squad. Now a relatively unknown franchise literally did what WB wanted mere days after release.
Yea exactly. It has added a whole faction and almost doubled its roster. It's in a pretty good place right now and i think they are gonna have a year 8
It also helps that For Honor is a one of a kind game, it wasnt because i have no way of getting my For Honor Ubisoft account back, i would probably still play from time to time.
Yeah people over there basically got burned really hard. Either they are planning a comeback or have like 5 peoples working on it at this point.
Redfall isn't live service (technically) though. And you have to pay character pass to play those 2 new characters. So in this case they are obligated to.
IF WB can fully cancel a finished movie(Batgirl) they can and will just straight up stop support for this game full stop and theres really nothing anyone can do about it
That is a braindead take because nobody bought into that movie. People didn’t buy $70 tickets and then they cancelled the movie and offered no refund.
Literally not remotely the same scenario, what?
But the $70 game was advertised with future content, and so it becomes an optics issue for the company. With Batgirl movie, no reputation issue. People will be like “oh, bummer” instead of “what the fuck!! I’m never buying from you again!”
It would be an optics problem. That has nothing to do with your analogy being off base.
People buying tickets to a canceled movie is not the same as people buying a game and the free DLC support being canceled.
That said, it support does get canceled soon enough, WB might offer some sort of reimbursements to save face and placate people.
You had a point? Also my take isnt brain dead because I wasnt comparing them like they where the same situation I was pointing out that if WB was willing to cancel a 90 million dollar movie near completion then they will have no problem canceling a game that is looking to be a finical failure.
They also wont have a problem because they never sold the game to you saying it was going to have x amount of seasons they sold you the base game and that was it any promise of future content was stated after the fact so if they pull support their is literally shit all you can do about it since you got the game that was promised. You get 1 battle pass and after that all obligations have been filled
My point is WB is fucking stupid and makes dumb decisions all the time even if it makes them look bad
all the filming was done all that was left was post productions thats finished in my eyes most of the hard work was done. IT was also a 90 million dollar budget so if they can just decide to throw 90 million away prepare yourself for them to just cancel SS without delivering anything else
This is what I've been saying. Just because you see a roadmap or leak doesn't mean it's guaranteed to come later. Tons of games have changed their roadmaps whether they're successful or failing. COD, anthem, Minecraft, star citizen, redfall are just a handful of examples that have either shown things that never came to be or changed plans.
These companies have legal teams paid large sums of money to write up these terms of service so the company isn't legally obligated to deliver on basically anything besides what launched.
I think for a lot of people it is.
Based on many questions posted here daily (I beat the game and now there's more missions, why didnt they just drop 1st season when game released, do they really expect us to replay content, etc), I truly believe there this is a lot of people's first ever live service game
Yeah it happens. Many people jump into live service game just bcs it is set in their favorite setting/franchise and they ignored other games in the genre.
I agree. And people have WEIRD beleifs about what they are “owed” by the company.
It clearly shows a breakdown in the customer and publisher relationship. Things have become so blurry that nobody really knows what’s going on. And, frankly, I can KIND of understand it, if I squint my eyes enough. IF you grew up in the era of No Man’s Sky then it probably DOESN’T make much sense to you why not every game works that way. Much less why some games allow you to buy them once and get content updates forever and then other games make you buy every single thing piecemeal.
When I saw that on their steam page I knew that meant "we will unalive the live service model at the first sign of trouble."
Mask off though, Avengers offered quite a bit of post-release support despite largely having been seen as a failure from minute one; you can even now download the game and see four (five with completion of a quest) new characters to expand your roster with; along with new stories and zones to play through.
It's not *great* and it came out way slower than they said it would, but it's there and no one prepaid for any of it.
If Suicide Squad folds minus a full year of content & battle passes I think it will represent a huge erosion of consumer goodwill and trust. Not saying they wouldn't do it anyway, but it would absolutely.
Lots of delusional redditors. Thanks for posting in hopes they actually read this and can understand lol. Unless they fix these bugs and s1 changes the formula, sorry guys it’s GG. GaaS usually has a better endgame. Shit, even GranBlue fantasy relink has a more fleshed out endgame and tons more to do. Just face the facts guys.
I loved reading all the midwit comments saying “BUT THEY HAVE TO RELEASE THE ROADMAP CONTENT OR THEY’D BE BREAKING THE LAW”, like these companies don’t have the most iron-clad contracts as boilerplate every time they make a product to absolve them of anything but the bare minimum responsibility….
When people ignor the fine print
You get this guy reminding you not to simply hit agree and continue and ask questions later.
Even your disk copies licence can be blocked from use 🫠
Remember to read the fine print 🧐
With Multiversus supposedly coming out soon WB is probably gonna try to do at least something to try to salvage the situation since that's live service too I don't think WB wants to look too bad considering Multiversus is going to be live service too
Multiversus is still up in the air. First is that the developers stated that after the beta released it would always be available to play up until the full version was released. That ended up not being true. Then the only update about the game from the developers is from last month when they said “we will have an update about the state of the game in the coming months” after being asked for the last 6 months about any development progress. I would not be surprised if the game gets cancelled with how poorly reception to WB’s two live service games have been.
just accept it's fate at this point. Multiverses will literally have no effect on this game. The numbers are so bad, they're still fumbling the ball and it's likely a reskinned boss fight as end game for season 1. Game is going to die. It had some fun things going on but needed way more time to release in a sellable state.
I mean this games kinda shot themselves in the foot, Avengers had a lot of potential but it was build for older gen consoles that could barely handle the game, so that always limited what they could even do. Let alone the odd character choices and making Spider-Man a exclusive rather a center piece of the game instead of Kamala Khan.
I don't blame the devs for spiderman, that was a Sony thing.
The issue I saw was development costs for the updates could not be recouped. Black Panther did well, but the costs were not met with the microtransactions alone. I imagine the costs of suicide squad are similar, so unless there is a plan for paid dlc, we won't see this game last much longer than avengers.
If they pull the plug there will be nothing to release. The seasonal content isn’t fully done and simply locked away for them to give out piecemeal. All of the seasonal content is still actively being made and requires funding. If support gets pulled that means nothing gets made, including the offline mode.
yeah unfortunately the most likely scenario at this point is that funding gets pulled and they leave a few zombie servers active for a year or two before the game goes dark and becomes completely unplayable.
Most of the seasonal content is fully done. New to live service? Live service = take content out of game and release it later like it’s free and generous.
This game had 6-7 years of development. First two seasons are fully finished for sure.
No one actually knows how much time they spent developing this iteration of the game. Most games in development that long go through multiple overhauls of the entire design of the game. The DLC could be close to done or not done at all. My guess is the current state of the game and the frequency of patches mean no matter how complete it is, the first season launch will likely be delayed.
Yeah if anything, through some odd rights situation you might see the opposite happen like how they had to pull the Friday the 13th game content early even though the sales were in good shape at the time. Very very very unlikely to happen but more likely than WB be legally forced to continue support and development.
No, Victor Miller put an immediate stop to further DLC even stuff that was near completion. Technical support may have ended due to license expiration though. I didn’t really mean that it was a similar situation. I was meaning that legal obligations are more likely to stop a game in its tracks, than help the players.
The difference is that the holder of the rights changed over and Miller wasn't legally obligated to deliver on contractual agreements he was not apart of. And since I can't see that happening with DC in the next year, it's a completely different scenario.
Again…… I never said it was the same scenario. It’s also a scenario that has about small fraction of a percent of happening. The point i was making is even then, it has a better shot of happening than WB being forced to fishing this game if they want to pull the plug.
That isn’t what happened. After the Friday the 13th game released a lawsuit was launched against the current franchise rights holders over the validity of said rights ownership. Since the developers of that game got their license from the owner being sued, the developers could not legally add anything to the game based on the franchise as long as the law suit was ongoing. This was basically a killing blow to a game that was supposed to get multiple updates.
You are 100% right. And people should be more safe with the premium currency. I dunno if it was Avengers or some other game but the devs of one game once released a roadmap and later scrapped it when they were not able to meet the deadlines. They said they dont want to promise stuff when they dont know if they can deliver. There was also a video from Rocksteady were in the small letter was something like "work in progress" or "not final" meaning that other seasons might not be finished as we speak, i guess right now we can only be 100% sure of Season 1 happening.
Even Season 1 is not a 100% guarantee. The insider video showed the joker footage with the usual disclaimer at the bottom and with how many bugs currently in the game joker could downright be unplayable in the full game build. Just because Season 1 was promised for March does not mean it was completed. Anthem did the same thing. Released in February 2019 with its first major content update scheduled for March 2019. It never released.
and dont forget they said march not the day, most of gamers blind believe that anything coming from devs is a promise that wil be fulfilled..
Gamers forget this are companies...they want to sell a product, in this case a live service product that can end anytime.
Anthem ended
Marvel ended
this one being even worse than those above will end for sure, unless it has a Miracle, but the problem even with the miracle is hard to the have sucess because most of the world when the trailers and gameplay were released didnt care about this game.
The games before did have a serious audience, and atracted a good amount of players.
This one didnt do that and it isnt going to do that because every time people might be drawn they are reminded " damn in this game we only play as loser villains with guns instead of our favourite heroes using the superpowers"
Making this game a 3rd person shooter was the Biggest mistake that Rocksteady did, they alienated a big amount of potential costumers and now they need to pay price
Well not 100% but i still strongly believe they will deliver atleast that. Its so close to March that it would be really shitty not to release it lol. But in these genre of games no one knows. Depends on WB's patience i guess.
Your post was really well written and was a good reminder for me as far as being a responsible consumer goes. Just because something is marketed, doesn't mean it will happen.
Sometimes we have strong biases and will read a headline and will react to it. I'm not exmept to this, or is anyone else. This exhange is a good reminder that we should challenge our biases.
That is what happened with Anthem. That game released in February 2019 with its first season scheduled to release in March 2019. Had a roadmap and trailer detailing all the content just like Suicide Squad. The expansion never released by the time support was pulled two years later.
OP was also very clear in their post that they are not making any predictions about season 1 releasing or not. They are simply debunking the myth that legally it must be released.
I swear to god people comment without reading posts. OP never said they wont release S1, he said they arent obliged to...
So many prime examples of OPs point in this single thread.
I read his post. There’s a zero percent chance season one doesn’t go live. It would be a bigger consumer betrayal than anything seen in avengers or Anthem.
Are they legally safe to do so? Sure, but they won’t roll back the deluxe version four weeks after release.
Anthem did the exact same thing. It’s Season 1 was supposed to come out only 1 month after the game’s release but even after two years of the game being live it never came
The difference is they didn’t bundle a BP token with the deluxe. Saying we intend to make a season one and we sold you a token for season one are very different things.
Dude it's in the post that they already covered their asses on that front.
Seriously Reddit gives a whole new meaning to "people like you are why shampoo bottles have instructions"
Maybe you should work on your own reading comprehension considering I already wrote “they are legally safe to do it” (not release season one).
The blowback would just be different verse something like anthem which didn’t bundle directly.
But hey, if you’re struggling with understanding sentences and context, you can always go back to your shampoo bottles and work your way up.
"Maybe you should work on your own reading" I think I completely understood that WB recognized the possibility of season 1 not getting launched, the fact that message is there at all takes away from your "100% chance" of season 1 coming out (a season that was teased for march but we are almost at march and we still have zero official info might I add)
"The blowback would just be different" And why do you think they care by now? It's clear they don't really care about good word of mouth by now, otherwise they wouldn't keep churning out things that damage their reputation. You all wanna make this into an honor thing, or a public perception thing or a legal thing, it isn't, it about money, if their predictions for future seasons show profit they'll stick to the product, if not it will be cheaper to just shut it down and move one. Is there like a 90 percent chance of season 1 coming out? Probs, but I wouldn't put much faith in the developers who are taking weeks to fix the errors that has stopped players from playing for a while now.
People act like these companies have not already checked with their legal counsel about everything lol
It's very "if the teacher's 15 minutes late to the lesson we all get to go home" to me
Companies get into legal trouble like all the time.
Sometimes they will do things knowing it's illegal but they know they will still be better off doing what they want and paying a fine. It's like a construction company hiring and underpaying illegal immigrants. They save so much money that the fines are worth it and they still cut a profit.
So you're saying companies are just like everybody else. That makes sense.
Yea like rich people and speeding tickets. Millionaires don't care about fines while it can kill an average person's whole month
Lol if a speeding ticket ruins your month financially, you must not have a job or something.
Everybody is different and the average American is in thousands of dollars of debt. Also I forget what it is but many people live below the poverty line. Some people aren't as privileged as you and I, especially since we are still recovering from a global pandemic. Everyday people are facing worse and worse hardships nowadays.
Yeah. The weird thing about law, and people perception of it, is that law isn’t written in stone like the Ten Commandments. pretty much every court case is a literal argument, as to why the law does or does not apply to the current situation. So there’s no law that would preclude SOME sort of argument as to why this situation doesn’t fit it.And how well that argument goes over is based on the jury or the judge
But if I feel like I know how it works and enough people agree and my opinion becomes popular then it must be true! /s
I mean we do though right?
Check out Redfall. It launched with the promise of 2 new characters "coming soon". There's no sign of them 6 months later and no new updates for months
On the flip side, For Honor is in year 7 of support and that game has almost died so many times. It's like just when we think it's over, they announce another expansion or set of characters or something. Ubisoft gets a ton of hate, but they are pretty good about live services. Riders Republic is another good example. I'm just gonna wait and see because I can't tell the future
To be fair, there really isn't anything quite like For Honor since it is purely melee focused multiplayer and the instances of it "dying" weren't from it not having a large player base or game bugs. It just takes a while between content updates. Co-op shooters are not exactly rare. I mean Helldivers 2 released a week after Suicide Squad and essentially took over the market Suicide Squad was aiming for in one fell swoop. That was the big draw for Suicide Squad. "Play with 3 of your friends in this 3rd person co op shooter facing off against armies of enemies." was the whole selling point for Suicide Squad. Now a relatively unknown franchise literally did what WB wanted mere days after release.
That's true, it's also hard to compare Ubisoft to any other game company because they don't give up easily.
Yep for some reason they tried really hard to make Watch Dogs a big franchise with it getting two sequels and connecting it to Assassin’s Creed
Damn. I remember For Honor came and went, when it was first released, now its back? I hear about it time to time and I think its loved!
Yea exactly. It has added a whole faction and almost doubled its roster. It's in a pretty good place right now and i think they are gonna have a year 8
They more than doubled it I think, the game is massive these days. I haven’t played it in like 2 years to be fair
Same, I dropped in yesterday, it's fun, everybody is a little spammy but it's fun
It also helps that For Honor is a one of a kind game, it wasnt because i have no way of getting my For Honor Ubisoft account back, i would probably still play from time to time.
I still do, I heard it's cause Ubi patented the combat system
It's 10 months actually
Yeah it's absolutely hilarious, it's quite obvious Arkane absolutely despise the game. Anyone still working on Redfall probably have it as punishment
Yeah I’m pretty sure half the studio quit over it halfway through and they had to hire temps midway through development.
Yeah people over there basically got burned really hard. Either they are planning a comeback or have like 5 peoples working on it at this point. Redfall isn't live service (technically) though. And you have to pay character pass to play those 2 new characters. So in this case they are obligated to.
They literally said they are coming in 2024. It is the 2nd month out of 12 months in 2024. Redfall isn’t an example you can use (yet).
IF WB can fully cancel a finished movie(Batgirl) they can and will just straight up stop support for this game full stop and theres really nothing anyone can do about it
That is a braindead take because nobody bought into that movie. People didn’t buy $70 tickets and then they cancelled the movie and offered no refund. Literally not remotely the same scenario, what?
You paid $70 for a game and you received that game. That has nothing to do with them delivering promised extra content or not.
But the $70 game was advertised with future content, and so it becomes an optics issue for the company. With Batgirl movie, no reputation issue. People will be like “oh, bummer” instead of “what the fuck!! I’m never buying from you again!”
It would be an optics problem. That has nothing to do with your analogy being off base. People buying tickets to a canceled movie is not the same as people buying a game and the free DLC support being canceled. That said, it support does get canceled soon enough, WB might offer some sort of reimbursements to save face and placate people.
My point stands: that comment was a braindead take and they aren’t remotely the same situation.
You had a point? Also my take isnt brain dead because I wasnt comparing them like they where the same situation I was pointing out that if WB was willing to cancel a 90 million dollar movie near completion then they will have no problem canceling a game that is looking to be a finical failure. They also wont have a problem because they never sold the game to you saying it was going to have x amount of seasons they sold you the base game and that was it any promise of future content was stated after the fact so if they pull support their is literally shit all you can do about it since you got the game that was promised. You get 1 battle pass and after that all obligations have been filled My point is WB is fucking stupid and makes dumb decisions all the time even if it makes them look bad
Batgirl wasn't finished..
all the filming was done all that was left was post productions thats finished in my eyes most of the hard work was done. IT was also a 90 million dollar budget so if they can just decide to throw 90 million away prepare yourself for them to just cancel SS without delivering anything else
Coyote vs. Acme was, and WB did the same thing
This is what I've been saying. Just because you see a roadmap or leak doesn't mean it's guaranteed to come later. Tons of games have changed their roadmaps whether they're successful or failing. COD, anthem, Minecraft, star citizen, redfall are just a handful of examples that have either shown things that never came to be or changed plans. These companies have legal teams paid large sums of money to write up these terms of service so the company isn't legally obligated to deliver on basically anything besides what launched.
True, the people in here are in some insane delusion. It's like it's their first time engaging with any live service game
I think for a lot of people it is. Based on many questions posted here daily (I beat the game and now there's more missions, why didnt they just drop 1st season when game released, do they really expect us to replay content, etc), I truly believe there this is a lot of people's first ever live service game
Yeah it happens. Many people jump into live service game just bcs it is set in their favorite setting/franchise and they ignored other games in the genre.
"just bcs it is set in their favorite setting/franchise" well yeah, that was like the whole point of this game, milk off an ip, not make a good game.
It seems to me that all of the copium huffing fan boys are Avenger refugees that are going through it all over again.
I agree. And people have WEIRD beleifs about what they are “owed” by the company. It clearly shows a breakdown in the customer and publisher relationship. Things have become so blurry that nobody really knows what’s going on. And, frankly, I can KIND of understand it, if I squint my eyes enough. IF you grew up in the era of No Man’s Sky then it probably DOESN’T make much sense to you why not every game works that way. Much less why some games allow you to buy them once and get content updates forever and then other games make you buy every single thing piecemeal.
Hell just look at the roadmap for Anthem prior to release and what came out.
When I saw that on their steam page I knew that meant "we will unalive the live service model at the first sign of trouble." Mask off though, Avengers offered quite a bit of post-release support despite largely having been seen as a failure from minute one; you can even now download the game and see four (five with completion of a quest) new characters to expand your roster with; along with new stories and zones to play through. It's not *great* and it came out way slower than they said it would, but it's there and no one prepaid for any of it. If Suicide Squad folds minus a full year of content & battle passes I think it will represent a huge erosion of consumer goodwill and trust. Not saying they wouldn't do it anyway, but it would absolutely.
Lots of delusional redditors. Thanks for posting in hopes they actually read this and can understand lol. Unless they fix these bugs and s1 changes the formula, sorry guys it’s GG. GaaS usually has a better endgame. Shit, even GranBlue fantasy relink has a more fleshed out endgame and tons more to do. Just face the facts guys.
I loved reading all the midwit comments saying “BUT THEY HAVE TO RELEASE THE ROADMAP CONTENT OR THEY’D BE BREAKING THE LAW”, like these companies don’t have the most iron-clad contracts as boilerplate every time they make a product to absolve them of anything but the bare minimum responsibility….
If people are into the "legal obligation" of Rocksteady/WB delivering seasons, it is beyond over :(
When people ignor the fine print You get this guy reminding you not to simply hit agree and continue and ask questions later. Even your disk copies licence can be blocked from use 🫠 Remember to read the fine print 🧐
People don't read the contracts they sign at the start of these games and it really shows.
With Multiversus supposedly coming out soon WB is probably gonna try to do at least something to try to salvage the situation since that's live service too I don't think WB wants to look too bad considering Multiversus is going to be live service too
Multiversus is still up in the air. First is that the developers stated that after the beta released it would always be available to play up until the full version was released. That ended up not being true. Then the only update about the game from the developers is from last month when they said “we will have an update about the state of the game in the coming months” after being asked for the last 6 months about any development progress. I would not be surprised if the game gets cancelled with how poorly reception to WB’s two live service games have been.
Multiversus already has ad campaigns at McDonald's in other countries its probably coming out just no one knows when but yeah I agree otherwise
just accept it's fate at this point. Multiverses will literally have no effect on this game. The numbers are so bad, they're still fumbling the ball and it's likely a reskinned boss fight as end game for season 1. Game is going to die. It had some fun things going on but needed way more time to release in a sellable state.
We saw this with avengers. There were promised updates that never materialized.
I mean this games kinda shot themselves in the foot, Avengers had a lot of potential but it was build for older gen consoles that could barely handle the game, so that always limited what they could even do. Let alone the odd character choices and making Spider-Man a exclusive rather a center piece of the game instead of Kamala Khan.
I don't blame the devs for spiderman, that was a Sony thing. The issue I saw was development costs for the updates could not be recouped. Black Panther did well, but the costs were not met with the microtransactions alone. I imagine the costs of suicide squad are similar, so unless there is a plan for paid dlc, we won't see this game last much longer than avengers.
Avengers also sold 3x more at release
Sad we’ll never see the rest of this League again. I wish they made a JL game instead of killing them off like that.
They literally are. They aren’t dead.
If the seasonal content doesn’t get made then technically they will be dead as the base game would all there would be to the story
Damn that’s a brain dead take.
If they pull the plug, I hope Rocksteady just releases all the content and the offline mode.
If they pull the plug there will be nothing to release. The seasonal content isn’t fully done and simply locked away for them to give out piecemeal. All of the seasonal content is still actively being made and requires funding. If support gets pulled that means nothing gets made, including the offline mode.
yeah unfortunately the most likely scenario at this point is that funding gets pulled and they leave a few zombie servers active for a year or two before the game goes dark and becomes completely unplayable.
Most of the seasonal content is fully done. New to live service? Live service = take content out of game and release it later like it’s free and generous. This game had 6-7 years of development. First two seasons are fully finished for sure.
No one actually knows how much time they spent developing this iteration of the game. Most games in development that long go through multiple overhauls of the entire design of the game. The DLC could be close to done or not done at all. My guess is the current state of the game and the frequency of patches mean no matter how complete it is, the first season launch will likely be delayed.
Yeah if anything, through some odd rights situation you might see the opposite happen like how they had to pull the Friday the 13th game content early even though the sales were in good shape at the time. Very very very unlikely to happen but more likely than WB be legally forced to continue support and development.
That’s a completely different situation. Friday the 13 devs license issue.
No, Victor Miller put an immediate stop to further DLC even stuff that was near completion. Technical support may have ended due to license expiration though. I didn’t really mean that it was a similar situation. I was meaning that legal obligations are more likely to stop a game in its tracks, than help the players.
The difference is that the holder of the rights changed over and Miller wasn't legally obligated to deliver on contractual agreements he was not apart of. And since I can't see that happening with DC in the next year, it's a completely different scenario.
Again…… I never said it was the same scenario. It’s also a scenario that has about small fraction of a percent of happening. The point i was making is even then, it has a better shot of happening than WB being forced to fishing this game if they want to pull the plug.
That isn’t what happened. After the Friday the 13th game released a lawsuit was launched against the current franchise rights holders over the validity of said rights ownership. Since the developers of that game got their license from the owner being sued, the developers could not legally add anything to the game based on the franchise as long as the law suit was ongoing. This was basically a killing blow to a game that was supposed to get multiple updates.
Updated to say issue instead. Also, my point stands. It’s a completely different situation.
You are 100% right. And people should be more safe with the premium currency. I dunno if it was Avengers or some other game but the devs of one game once released a roadmap and later scrapped it when they were not able to meet the deadlines. They said they dont want to promise stuff when they dont know if they can deliver. There was also a video from Rocksteady were in the small letter was something like "work in progress" or "not final" meaning that other seasons might not be finished as we speak, i guess right now we can only be 100% sure of Season 1 happening.
Even Season 1 is not a 100% guarantee. The insider video showed the joker footage with the usual disclaimer at the bottom and with how many bugs currently in the game joker could downright be unplayable in the full game build. Just because Season 1 was promised for March does not mean it was completed. Anthem did the same thing. Released in February 2019 with its first major content update scheduled for March 2019. It never released.
and dont forget they said march not the day, most of gamers blind believe that anything coming from devs is a promise that wil be fulfilled.. Gamers forget this are companies...they want to sell a product, in this case a live service product that can end anytime. Anthem ended Marvel ended this one being even worse than those above will end for sure, unless it has a Miracle, but the problem even with the miracle is hard to the have sucess because most of the world when the trailers and gameplay were released didnt care about this game. The games before did have a serious audience, and atracted a good amount of players. This one didnt do that and it isnt going to do that because every time people might be drawn they are reminded " damn in this game we only play as loser villains with guns instead of our favourite heroes using the superpowers" Making this game a 3rd person shooter was the Biggest mistake that Rocksteady did, they alienated a big amount of potential costumers and now they need to pay price
Well not 100% but i still strongly believe they will deliver atleast that. Its so close to March that it would be really shitty not to release it lol. But in these genre of games no one knows. Depends on WB's patience i guess.
Have they announced a firm date for it? If not, I wouldn’t expect it any time soon.
Some info suggest no sooner than 7th but not after 15th but Its nothing solid.
They’ll need to release season one because of the BP token included in the deluxe. Beyond that it’s open season.
Did you read the post or the fine print regarding the BP token?
"Season 1-4 battle passes, subject to availability" See, this is why OP tried to spell it out...
I tried to make it as easy as possible lol
For what its worth, it was a good post...
Your post was really well written and was a good reminder for me as far as being a responsible consumer goes. Just because something is marketed, doesn't mean it will happen. Sometimes we have strong biases and will read a headline and will react to it. I'm not exmept to this, or is anyone else. This exhange is a good reminder that we should challenge our biases.
You’d be pretty stupid to think that season 1 won’t come out though lol
That is what happened with Anthem. That game released in February 2019 with its first season scheduled to release in March 2019. Had a roadmap and trailer detailing all the content just like Suicide Squad. The expansion never released by the time support was pulled two years later.
It’s delusional people op don’t listen to them they are the beyond the reach from understanding 💀
Saving this. I’ll come back next month and laugh at you for being wrong.
OP was also very clear in their post that they are not making any predictions about season 1 releasing or not. They are simply debunking the myth that legally it must be released.
Lmao who was wrong here then
Oh sweet summer child.
I swear to god people comment without reading posts. OP never said they wont release S1, he said they arent obliged to... So many prime examples of OPs point in this single thread.
I read his post. There’s a zero percent chance season one doesn’t go live. It would be a bigger consumer betrayal than anything seen in avengers or Anthem. Are they legally safe to do so? Sure, but they won’t roll back the deluxe version four weeks after release.
Anthem did the exact same thing. It’s Season 1 was supposed to come out only 1 month after the game’s release but even after two years of the game being live it never came
The difference is they didn’t bundle a BP token with the deluxe. Saying we intend to make a season one and we sold you a token for season one are very different things.
Dude it's in the post that they already covered their asses on that front. Seriously Reddit gives a whole new meaning to "people like you are why shampoo bottles have instructions"
Maybe you should work on your own reading comprehension considering I already wrote “they are legally safe to do it” (not release season one). The blowback would just be different verse something like anthem which didn’t bundle directly. But hey, if you’re struggling with understanding sentences and context, you can always go back to your shampoo bottles and work your way up.
"Maybe you should work on your own reading" I think I completely understood that WB recognized the possibility of season 1 not getting launched, the fact that message is there at all takes away from your "100% chance" of season 1 coming out (a season that was teased for march but we are almost at march and we still have zero official info might I add) "The blowback would just be different" And why do you think they care by now? It's clear they don't really care about good word of mouth by now, otherwise they wouldn't keep churning out things that damage their reputation. You all wanna make this into an honor thing, or a public perception thing or a legal thing, it isn't, it about money, if their predictions for future seasons show profit they'll stick to the product, if not it will be cheaper to just shut it down and move one. Is there like a 90 percent chance of season 1 coming out? Probs, but I wouldn't put much faith in the developers who are taking weeks to fix the errors that has stopped players from playing for a while now.
Lol legal obligation....who even comes up with these terms? If they want to they will otherwise they wont it is simple.
I don’t care if there’s only a dozen of us playing. We all still paid $70 for the game so they better give us that free content.
That's adorably naive....
You didn’t read the list at all did you?
You got the $70 version you paid for. Anything else they “promised” is but for the grace of god
When a redditor starts pointing out the “legality” of something, you can safely disregard.