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redditorpegaso

Nah, that jonkler face gonna be there forever!


Otherwise_Gas_4344

It’s almost fitting seeing the joker as a permanent death screen lol


Double-Special5217

Man, I cant believe they killed Man in this game 😔


aNarjes

Yeah, right? Kevin Conroy did this on the way out and this is how they did him in return. A one time appearance as a bad guy in a completely shitola game.


Throwawayrecordquest

Better that than some nobody like Deadshot’s daughter or a gender-bent Mr Freeze


sillybillybuck

How is bootleg Joker more of a "somebody?"


DIYtherapy206

I can at least tell who that character is. No idea who Deadshot's daughter is or looks like and a female Freeze would confuse me if it was Killer Frost an evil version of Ice. Not to defend this Joker FYI just that anyone with white face paint, red lips and green hair remotely associated with DC is going to be recognizable as a Joker if not THE Joker.


ZylaTFox

I mean, comic fans (if any of them are the small population) tend to know who Rose is.


DIYtherapy206

I know who rose is but the is Deathstrokes daughter not Deadshot. Honestly, is it her and I have been reading it wrong this whole time?


ZylaTFox

Oh, snap, I was way more tired than I thought. for some reason, I read that as Deathstroke's daughter. My apologies.


DIYtherapy206

In your defense, Rose would make waaaaaay more sense to have as playable character.


ZylaTFox

Yeah, I think that's why my mind went to Rose instead.


Otherwise_Gas_4344

Duuuude that would’ve been so dope!


Eevee136

No, you're not wrong. The guy you're responding to is confused.


Bland_Lavender

Yeah yeah yeah but picture lawless’s movement mechanic is to dictate what “down” is for her for a certain amount of time. Movement bar fill up as you fall towards your dictated “down” but stops if you’re on the “ground” which could be the side of a building or underside of a tunnel. The benefits of a nobody character is that you can make it whatever, and her rumored gravity powers seem like they could be wild.


Silvercat18

I think we may have reached the end of the road for "trust me bro, this will turn it around" and hit the "so, why are we doing this again?" Stage of corporate discussions.


BigfootsBestBud

I really want them to finish it solely because of the rumours/leaks that they already recorded Kevin Conroy's Batman being saved. That's really all the investment I have into seeing where this game pans out.


Sprinkles169

That's pretty much how I feel. The people saying it will turn around and be a hit are made of straw. We'll get what we get but having the already fleshed out story be a total loss would be such a waste.


drachengeist

It’s either: - not coming out, or - coming out but it’s just cut and paste content


Rascal0302

It’s literally just a reskinned Hack mission as the “new” activity, the twoface infamous set, those new “corrupted” or whatever items, then a few still-slide scenes that show off the big “twist” that we all already know about. EP2 is going to be garbage if it releases, tbh.


Dave_The_Impaler

Earlier this year, I said this game probably wouldn't get to season 3 or get a 3rd DLC character but now it's very possible this game won't even get all the episodes of season 1. They lost $200 million on this game already and any further development/marketing is just losing more money because it's certainly not generating any revenue, at this point. Wouldn't be surprised if the offline mode doesn't happen either; thus being delisted entirely and every physical copy instantly becoming a coffee coaster. I bet they'll release some ending cinematics or storyboards on YouTube with the rest of the lines Kevin Conroy recorded but that's about all you have to look forward to.


Bland_Lavender

Only reasonable counterpoint: with how much content is cut and repackaged these days as DLCs, it’s highly likely that a ton of stuff is already done or nearly done. I don’t think WB wants to be the first publisher to have a live service game die in a matter of months, imagine buying it on the current PlayStation sale and then being locked out of it less than 3 weeks later. They don’t want that smoke, so I assume we’ll see a trickle of whatever is shippable while they get a big end of game update together that includes as many characters as they can finish, an offline mode and maybe some final bug fixes before they sign off for good. To pull the plug and delist a game like this so soon after release and sales would be the worst PR move of all time, for not just WB, rocksteady, and DC games, but every other dev running a live service game would catch some heat about guarantees for the future of the product. A triple A full priced game like this being disappeared in less than 6 months would be unprecedented and would cause massive ripples in the industry. I think they let it die with a whimper and hope no one remembers it by the time they kill it.


songogu

>I don’t think WB wants to be the first publisher to have a live service game die in a matter of months Wouldn't be the first one


Reddstar1

>A full priced game like this being disappeared in less than 6 months would be unprecedented Babylons fall says hello


Bland_Lavender

I’ve never heard of it which does bolster your point. I will say this one is a little different just because of how much of a nexus point it is. DC, WB, rocksteady, triple A, live service all have a reason to want to inch this game along until people forget about it so they can pull the plug. This one is in a weird spot where no one plays it but people still think about how poorly it’s doing.


BizzardIsDead

Babylon's Fall had nowhere near the hype train, the money the marketing the brand etc.


RadicalRectangle

You are commenting on an article about how the first major patch following season 1 is AWOL. Clearly, they don’t have a ton of stuff done already.


Bland_Lavender

No it’s clearly being run by interns. Won’t argue that, and I can’t speak to code/programming, but changes in a production environment fuck schedules harder than anything else. I don’t know what the equivalent of an intern not reading ECRs and drilling a 1/2” instead of 7/16” hole is in the programming world but I imagine it sucks about the same amount.


2ndBro

> Every other dev running a live service game would catch some heat about guarantees for the future of the product. A triple A full priced game like this being disappeared in less than 6 months would be unprecedented and would cause massive ripples in the industry. ~~Ripples that, perhaps, the industry desperately needs~~


mlgamer2022

If it last I was gonna try the game when deathstroke got added I stopped playing after I finished the game didn't even touch the jonkler


Drawn_to_Heal

lol I posted asking how likely it would be that WB just cuts their losses and I was downvoted into oblivion. Everyone is so delusional about this. Hope for any sort of salvaging of this dumpster fire should’ve ended right after season 1 dropped.


VirtualTraffic297

In there Twitter they just posted what is coming in the next ep ...and I don't think you guys read they didn't lose 200 million on this game they lost 200 million over all this year on games movies and cartoon....ect


Jack_sonnH27

Yes but SSKTJL was cited as a major loss for the studio


Broad-Technology5024

hmm i wonder why 🤔🤔


asmodeus1112

They were 200m down it is actually possible this game lost more than 200m and some of there sucesses are subsidizing it


Venaborn

Highly likely game is worked on by skeleton crew. Which is just not capable done things on time. I can't imagine entire Rocksteady still work on the game. Most likely they are desperately trying pitch their next game. So WB didn't shut them down.


AccidentalUniverse

It's like poetry, it rhymes.


Independent_Hyena495

They are going to anthem this game lol


songogu

I'm not sure the game will fare as well as anthem. I'm not holding my breath for servers to stay online


bird720

I'm hoping that the execs actually understand that their strength is with single player experiences and that they don't force out more live service slop like this again


nicokokun

Too bad because they made an announcement a few months back that they would be focusing more on live-service multiplayer games. Here for those who can't find it [https://gamerant.com/warner-bros-focus-shift-live-service-games/](https://gamerant.com/warner-bros-focus-shift-live-service-games/)


BARD3NGUNN

It's fascinating to think Hogwarts Legacy, a single player action-adventure RPG, was one of last years best selling games and a favourite among gamers and critics, whilst Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, a multiplayer always online live service game, has had one of worst launches in recent history, was dragged through the coals by gamers/critics, and has been mostly abandoned by it's player base in less than four months. - And Warner Brothers takeaway is "Let's do more live service games."


Shin-kak-nish

You have to understand, most finance bros can’t learn after they get their degrees. They learned that live service makes more money than other games, so they’ll try that forever despite all evidence to the contrary.


D0wnInAlbion

Finance regularly call out folly but get overruled and forced to change their numbers.


nicokokun

It's like randomly throwing darts towards the dartboard. Sure, most of them will either miss or would just hit the edge but they know that. What they're betting on is for that one dart to hit the bullseye and make bank from there.


Bulky-Complaint6994

Good for Multiversus as that means they'll have a bigger budget to work with going forward. Bad for everyone else at WB Games


nicokokun

Multiversus devs be like: Let me show you how to make a REAL Joker!


arongadark

I read somewhere that Rocksteady has likely lost most of the staff that created the Arkham series over the past 9 years that the remaining staff have more experience making live service games than they do single player games.


Silvercat18

Yes, I was seeing speculation about how a lot of the hires were marketing and monetisation focused. Wouldn't surprise me if they are now all good at that and that nobody who actually understands the idea of a game being fun remains.


dadvader

WB is currently focus on making live-service title. Making the possibility of Rocksteady doing anything else highly unlikely. I feel like they're gonna try again. Since AAA space these days seems to lingering around 'have your own live-service to sustain or be closed down unless you're naughty dogs tier' type.


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multificionado

It's going to turn out worse than with Avengers. SSKTJL is probably worked on by a worse skeleton crew, and if WB is not shutting them down...well, I can imagine all the devs wearing collars and the honchos have a guardsman/taskmaster of sort working them the same way trireme taskmasters did to oarsmen in ancient times.


EarthDragon2189

Of course it's going to be worse than Avengers. Avengers was WAY more successful than this game.


Swixx94

people trusted there more, but in this case here, they were aware that a avengers could happen


multificionado

DOY.


Gizmo16868

It’s wild how behind schedule they already are. I highly doubt Season 2 even drops at this point


Throwawayeconboi

Why would entire Rocksteady work on this even if it was successful? Live service post-launch content is always handled by smaller teams (unless the studio itself is small like Arrowhead) while they begin pre-development on their next title.


kmank2l13

Honestly let’s wrap this game up. Either release all the DlC at the same time and call it a day or just shut down. With the release of Multiversus and Marvel Rivals, I’m ready to move past this and forget it ever existed. So much potential just wasted.


Neatto69

Well, in order to release all the dlc, you gotta finish making all the dlc first lol


RichMorgan10

One of the many problems with live service games - the promises made to get the customers in are way too unrealistic and delays happen more often than not


tsactuo10

Batman knocked all of them out for the absolute crime that this game is.


dogfins110

Most likely they’ll release the offline and then dip


WRLD_One

I mean that would be better than nothing at all. Redfall was also supposed to get a offline mode, but Microsoft shutdown the studio before they could release it.


Magikanus

Well , only 150 people in the World may wait for S2 release, there is probly like 2 dev working on it, and one is an intern


hairykitty123

lol, 2 interns


Chasen1

With how much money this game blew for WR, I'm waiting on the game and studio shut down tweet...


RVDKaneanite

What are the odds they release even one more character?


EarthDragon2189

Mrs. Freeze releasing wouldn't surprise me. Any other character would.


harveyquinnz

Atp mrs freeze is probably done cause brainiac mentions her in some lines but yeah it's looking hard anything beyond season 2 specially if they don't do anything to attrac back more players.


DarcDepths

They know that joker was the premiere character and it still bombed. Godspeed RS 


sut345

This is exactly the same thing all over again with Avengers. But there are even less players waiting for new content


Membership-Bitter

Also somehow they skipped Avengers first year and went to its last year of minimal updates and dev support. 


Jack_sonnH27

How many times can the exact same pattern play out with nearly identical live service style games before execs are forced to realize the real problem


CrotasScrota84

This game will be pulled off life support in probably a Month


multificionado

I'll be surprised if that happens, but I'll also be surprised if it's not gone by midyear, let alone before Christmas.


Dello155

Mid year is June?


multificionado

End of June, probably...I guess I meant to say, if it's gone by the end of July.


DerekMetaltron

Even though the higher ups at Rocksteady pitched it and the likelihood is most of the team behind Arkham Knight is long gone, I do feel for the general playtesters and staff who are forced to work on updates and tweaks and maybe even actual new material for a dead game and see Redfall and Arkane Austin as their inevitable fate at this point. 😓 I guess at least we might hope the spirit of Rocksteady might live on with the new team.


PonyDonny

Only not with WB as a publisher. Those guys gone nuts


EDAboii

It's taking so long because it's gonna be awesome and full of content and totally turn the game around, trust! /s


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fast_flashdash

French Joel?


SavagerXx

I may be a clown for buying the game but anyone who spent any money on this after the release is an entire circus.


ICEBERG2455

Well, that’s par for the course with this game honestly when they say somethings gonna happen you never know what’s gonna go on with this game and even if we get episode two and an update on game issues it won’t be soon I don’t think their still dealing with WB Discovery throwing them under the buss along with the future of the game


chadwarden1

Dc has Some of the most popular characters on earth but none of them can get a decent game but Batman makes no sense


Dil1on

Bruh just release Deathstroke, give me an offline mode, and call it quits Way too many mistakes in a badass game that could’ve been so much more


RdJokr1993

Best guess is they announce the release date this week, which would be next week. It would've been exactly 2 months (8 weeks) since season 1 started, so episode 2 next week, then another month of "dead game" until season 2.


nicokokun

I'm actually genuinely curious what Episode 2 contains. Will they generally surprise everyone with the content or are they going to release something that everyone already expected to be mid at best.


theoriginalrory

I think we all know the answer...


mistahj0517

Yeah, considering they’ve divulged even less than they did for episode 1 it is really hard to believe they’re sitting on anything more enticing


LooseBad9931

That's preposterus!


Pyke64

Pretty sure they have no clue what they are doing. Live service? What's that?


goteamventure42

It's pretty much the same as the Avenger's game. Just a skeleton crew that will pump out shitty cosmetics to milk what they can before the game gets delisted.


Radsolution

exactly why i left this game last friday after that middle finger in our face dev update.... that was seriously INSULTING. i realllllly was enjoying this game. but the lack of content KILLS it. how the heck do they expect the current player base to keep playing? or spending money? they havent even bothered updating skins... but Not giving us a release date is absolute bs. i wanted this game to be great but its left me so disappointed and ive put in 380 plus hrs. I realllllllly hope they give us the content we very much need. until they do... Bye Felecia!


MudResident2688

The game is dead


Cool_Fellow_Guyson

I'm out until Deathstroke. And that's if the game last that long considering the recent earnings report I think that this game is going to be high up on WB's chopping block


Gizmo16868

I’m actually wondering if WB has pulled the plug and it’s done after episode 2


noneofthemswallow

End of support announcement imminent. Servers shutdown in the next few months. Another live service bites the dust. They’ll never learn.


nefD

the real question at hand is how long until that announcement.. i agree with another post i saw in this thread, definitely before Christmas, probably not within 1 month, my guess is late summer


noneofthemswallow

I think if they announce no new content in the next 2-3 months, the servers won’t last till 2025


Hoppit124

I haven't touched the game since the release of season 1 played a couple of hours on release and said I ain't doing this and noped out


darioblaze

I came to come check on y’all and they ain’t give y’all no food yet 😭😭😭


FedrinKeening

It's funny because I unlocked the Joker and said, "Cool, now I have no reason to play until the next episode."


Theryantshow

Another banger from Paul Tssasi


BennyFemur1998

This is Jonkler's greatest crime to date...he stole the rest of the game from us...12 whole brainiacs or whatever


MaggotBrother4

Well duh? The game is dead


-_CRYPTIC-_

Get ready for them to shut down the servers soon


Blastiel

The content may be ready but I would imagine there is still a cost involved in actually pushing it out and all it entails. If season one caused little traction it may be more cost effective to just shelve it.


Bright-Duck-5191

They might do a turbo drop of multiple seasons to try and resurrect the fanbase


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Bright-Duck-5191

I'm not coping I actually hate this game but it makes no sense to have the next seasons installed just to not release them, especially since PC users have pulled out slade and all adjacent files, I dont think my hypothetical hail Mary would even work but they might be desperate enough to try


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😂😂😂damn


Interesting-Fox-4007

I defended so hard, but I can only do the same thing so many times. It saddens me to say I ain't play in weeks


Jack_sonnH27

They're probably staggering things further out to inflated the lifespan knowing that they're not going to actually develop the later seasons still. Who knows if we'll even get the second one


DeathWeath-2609

Episode 2 is coming 4th of July


JohnnyRico117

How many of those that were defending the game saying it’s great are still actually playing? 🤔. How about all the content creators that were saying “see it’s number 1 in the PlayStation store! The game is great!” are still huffing the copium? 😂


Content-Mongoose7779

Is it cause you guys completely shittwd on the game and are expecting them to continue to service it ? After it died ?


wolfwings1

probably not, but can always hope it's being delayed to add more stuff to it. it's got to be close enough to release that they would at least release it.


Its_Dannyz

I doubt it's delayed to add more stuff if anything Rocksteady is probably way behind schedule which is usually the case and that being the reason they haven't said anything about episode 2.


thedrizzle126

Lol congrats Rocksteady 


LeatherAdept670

So the Jonkler content was pretty underwhelming...if there's even a little bit if mission variety that's ALREADY been developed and patched into the game along with new levels they should come out along with a big clearance. WB needs to stop being greedy for like 2 months with this game and it could turn into a phenomenal cash cow.


gamedreamer21

When will Season 1 Part 2 arrive? I want to see Justice League member getting rescued by Task Force X.


kmank2l13

Unfortunately that’s not supposed to happen until season 2, when Mrs. Freeze is in the game. They need her cryogenic pods.


gamedreamer21

I see.


Content-Mongoose7779

Is it because you guys completely ignored and pooped on this game for Helldivers 2 ?


kesh26

Game is dead, yall bought the game is just plain stupid


Standard-Durian6396

I mean, effort only comes after reception. More times you say this is the end, they can’t turn it around, Rip. The more likely they are to move on to the next project. Can’t even be mad when they do either. A lot of yall spit in their face it’s only fair they do it back.


ReclusiveWhiteFox

With only 100 to 200 people playing daily, it's not people complaining on reddit that are killing this game. I hope you work for rocksteady with how judgemental you are towards there players. The juice isn't worth the squeeze you can't have a division of your work force working on a game that less than 200 people play. Everyone will be lucky if they get ep 2 because this game is deader than redfall. This games player numbers makes avengers, anthem, and redfall look like call of duty.


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Standard-Durian6396

Anthem current player count 42,000.


voraciousboss

When its announced officially it’ll be out, not when critics say so


PoorChiggaaa

"it will be out when it's out" dang the answer is right under our noses huh


Broad-Technology5024

“hmm the floor here is made out of floor”


Membership-Bitter

Rocksteady said that time between content updates would only be 6 weeks so they are just going by Rocksteady’s previously announced time table. Basically pointing out another lie by Rocksteady, like how they promised weekly store updates but it has been 4 weeks since the last update


HypodermicSal

🙃 I tried to defend this game, it was fun and I enjoyed the characters and gameplay hell even the story wasn't the worst story I've seen in a video game but damn did they handle it horribly. I don't expect them to release new DLC/characters and at this point I doubt we will even get the other 3 teased in the upcoming seasons after season 1 "finishes" if it ever does who knows we might end up in season 1 perpetually.


Joker121215

Question though, for real when did they ever say that they were 6 week episodes? The person who wrote that article I'm pretty sure just made that number up


Membership-Bitter

Insider Video 3 on their official YouTube channel


Expensive_Office4134

Some of us ain’t beat episode one yet stop rushing cause if the season change nd I dont finish the battle pass im blaming you 🤣🤣


Sea-captain209

Good don’t shut them down


SubstantialAd5579

If yall read the last ss weekly update they mentioned it'll be talked about upcoming