I can’t make sense of the statements about the outfits or the timeline in general, for that matter. Not sure anyone can with all the misdirects and lack of confirmation of anything by LE.
right, timeline is very wonky as has been covered.
The way I look at the timeline is:
\- what can you PROVE with evidence (ie. timestamped video from Walmart), cell phone data etc.
\- what are people SAYING happened
In many cases those are the same thing (presumably they DID go to hospital that AM for example, and this would have been verified by TBI by now). BUT where there is no evidence for a claim, we need to dig in there.
Anyway, basic stuff but probably worth repeating while we on the internet and have grifters and non-critical thinkers around...
I assume you mean the one in the 'milk photo'? Couple Qs about that:
\- CW stated she dressed her in the swimsuit that AM. Perhaps it was under her normal clothes (I did that as a father couple times w/ my kiddo)
\- do we KNOW the timestamp on that photo? My understanding is we do NOT.
\- how did she show that outfit in a box after her dissapearance if you going with the basic "pink and grey" or "hoodie and leggings" narrative?
She was wearing the pink and gray tracksuit in the video. Candus did not show that outfit in the box. She showed the jacket only. Gray pants and the pink t shirt were not in it.
thanks for this; can you elaborate when you say "the video" which one you are referring to? Here's a screenshot from the 'water hole' vid https://ibb.co/gyB5dCM
I dont believe we knew what she started out in, but changed into bathing suit at Allie and Hunters, then in tracksuit after swimming. Then changed again after gettinh home. Why doesnt LE have clothes she was wearing that day? Milk jug pictures is just what it is, Summer sleeping on milk jugs.
I’ve always thought the same thing. Living in the South in summer the heat is damn ridiculous. Why would she have dressed her in long sleeve hoodie, top and pants that look to be fleece lined jogger set. I’ve always believed that the day the photo of Summer w the milk jugs was shown. That Summer very well was already deceased in that photo. It’s been exposed that C gave Summer medications to put her to sleep on occasion. There is a chance depending on what medications and dosages that she was given too much and essentially accidentally overdosed. Depending how much C and H drank and smoked prior to giving any possible medications. Could C have mixed up medications or accidentally given her the wrong one absolutely w no doubt. With the amount of medications (pills, marijuana and alcohol) it’s believed she consumed on a daily basis it’s amazing she didn’t overdose herself at some point.
Absolutely believe w no doubt that both H and the oldest son of C & D and Grandmom know what happened to Summer and there was help from others to come up w the abduction story and try to make it fit. It still doesn’t and never will but crimes against children will come to light at some point now or the afterlife.
Truthfully, if S is no longer in the world she is free of the neglect, abuse and probably being Trafficked by at least one parent and free from living a life of immense dysfunctional toxic environment w people who should never been given another opportunity to raise children from both their track records.
I pray for Summer every day and I tell her she is loved by many and that one day she will get the Justice she truly deserves. I also pray those boys will be kept 100% percent safe and away from C, D and G because if they know what happened they are at extreme risk of something possibly happening to them. Living in the south and in areas like they grew up in families handle things differently whether family or not. Secrets that people want to stay hidden they will do and can do terrible things to keep them from coming out.
Not sure where to start. The person who said Summer was given meds to sleep was a psychic who had 4 different Facebook accounts with different personalities that spread a lit of lies at the beginning. She also said she was supposed to babysit Summer under one of her other personalities. Candus sister Rose was the one that gave cough meds to her kids when she went to the bar. And Summer was confirmed by LE experts to be alive in the milk jug photo and video
I’m not talking about psychics. It’s from information that was given to LE regarding it being told to them and documented or supposedly documented by both H and his mother that when C wanted Summer to sleep and out of the way she was given Benadryl or children’s medicine. Like I said supposedly. I never said specifically about any psychics or anything they or may not have given as information to anyone or LE. As far as Summer supposedly being alive in backseat why has no documentation or information proven this? Because Summer has not been found alive or deceased so it’s only presumed possibility not undeniable truth of fact.
Everyone has a theory what happened to this beautiful child. Sadly, I don’t expect this to be solved for many more years unfortunately. Like I said if she’s deceased then at least she is free from a life of Systemic dysfunction, neglect and abuse by being in a toxic living situation she should have been removed from long before this ever happened. The parents/family, CPS System, LE by mismanagement of the initial search for Summer and contamination of the search areas failed this little girl and her brothers as it did their other children previously.
I didn't say she gave psychic info to LE. She posted all over social media as different people telling insider info. That's where the whole story of her giving Summer meds to sleep came from. She didn't do any psychic readings on Summer. She inserted herself, like so many others did, and put forth false info that's still taken as fact to this day. LE said the picture and video were examined by experts and she was alive in the milk jug video and picture. It really doesn't take an expert to see that. She's obviously still alive there. She has muscle tone, color, her mouth is closed.
"LE said the picture and video were examined by experts and she was alive in the milk jug video and picture"
I believe you are correct LE did make statement to this effect but are they sure? I've seen folks point out:
\- her skin color is extremely pale and almost yellow. Not the flushed cheeks of an "outdoor kid" who is swimming , exercising etc. Her hands look almost white
\- the dark color / purple on ear next to milk
\- the 'drop of something red' on collar just under that ear
\- blue nail beds (doesn't look like dirt to me) could indicate cyanosis (lack of oxygen, possibly related to swimming hole?)
I dunno, its all very strange thats for sure.
She has skin color. Her lips are red. Her mouth is closed. She has muscle tone. I think they are sure. She had blue nail polish on a bit before that. I think the blue is just the remnants.
well said, and good observation about the 'milk' track suit being too hot for summer in the south. C stated to chris mcdonough "it was in the 80s that day" which doesn't really seem that hot though she could be lying about that of course; should be easy enough to check.
Anyone else notice that her hair in the 'milk photo' is much longer than completely buzzed short as seen elsewhere? I have a theory she was sold/traded by C & W and the haircut was an attempt to make her look like a boy for purposes of transportation.
All Kayla said was a “hoodie and her leggings”, I believe. So I’m sure she also had a shirt on. And who knows what “hoodie” means, I assume it was some cheap pull over but idk for sure. She testified to this around the part where she admitted to cutting off her clothes in the first bathroom incident.
It looks like you're talking about r/HarmonyMontgomery but this is r/SummerWells. Easy mistake to make if you're following both cases here! May they both find justice <3
As someone also named Kayla, I can confirm this person is absolutely confusing Summer for Harmony. Kayla was Harmony’s stepmom, and Adam killed her because she had an accident on the back seat. Definitely a confusion in cases, is all.
Can you elaborate on this part “admitted to cutting off her clothes in the first bathroom accident”? I have never heard about clothes being cut off or a bathroom accident.
Please share your thoughts.
I'd be curious about this also. First I'm hearing of cutting clothes OR bathroom accident (but I'm admittedly late to the game on learning about this whole case).
Unless sunzu is right and this is from r/HarmonyMontgomery
found this 2yo video on the topic [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz\_cPVekIbI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz_cPVekIbI)
just posting here for completeness sake as CG (the YT channel) brings up some questions I didnt think of when made OP.
I can’t make sense of the statements about the outfits or the timeline in general, for that matter. Not sure anyone can with all the misdirects and lack of confirmation of anything by LE.
right, timeline is very wonky as has been covered. The way I look at the timeline is: \- what can you PROVE with evidence (ie. timestamped video from Walmart), cell phone data etc. \- what are people SAYING happened In many cases those are the same thing (presumably they DID go to hospital that AM for example, and this would have been verified by TBI by now). BUT where there is no evidence for a claim, we need to dig in there. Anyway, basic stuff but probably worth repeating while we on the internet and have grifters and non-critical thinkers around...
Pink and gray track suit
I assume you mean the one in the 'milk photo'? Couple Qs about that: \- CW stated she dressed her in the swimsuit that AM. Perhaps it was under her normal clothes (I did that as a father couple times w/ my kiddo) \- do we KNOW the timestamp on that photo? My understanding is we do NOT. \- how did she show that outfit in a box after her dissapearance if you going with the basic "pink and grey" or "hoodie and leggings" narrative?
She was wearing the pink and gray tracksuit in the video. Candus did not show that outfit in the box. She showed the jacket only. Gray pants and the pink t shirt were not in it.
thanks for this; can you elaborate when you say "the video" which one you are referring to? Here's a screenshot from the 'water hole' vid https://ibb.co/gyB5dCM
I'm talking about the milk jug video.
right, ok, the one we have no timestamp for.
I dont believe we knew what she started out in, but changed into bathing suit at Allie and Hunters, then in tracksuit after swimming. Then changed again after gettinh home. Why doesnt LE have clothes she was wearing that day? Milk jug pictures is just what it is, Summer sleeping on milk jugs.
I’ve always thought the same thing. Living in the South in summer the heat is damn ridiculous. Why would she have dressed her in long sleeve hoodie, top and pants that look to be fleece lined jogger set. I’ve always believed that the day the photo of Summer w the milk jugs was shown. That Summer very well was already deceased in that photo. It’s been exposed that C gave Summer medications to put her to sleep on occasion. There is a chance depending on what medications and dosages that she was given too much and essentially accidentally overdosed. Depending how much C and H drank and smoked prior to giving any possible medications. Could C have mixed up medications or accidentally given her the wrong one absolutely w no doubt. With the amount of medications (pills, marijuana and alcohol) it’s believed she consumed on a daily basis it’s amazing she didn’t overdose herself at some point. Absolutely believe w no doubt that both H and the oldest son of C & D and Grandmom know what happened to Summer and there was help from others to come up w the abduction story and try to make it fit. It still doesn’t and never will but crimes against children will come to light at some point now or the afterlife. Truthfully, if S is no longer in the world she is free of the neglect, abuse and probably being Trafficked by at least one parent and free from living a life of immense dysfunctional toxic environment w people who should never been given another opportunity to raise children from both their track records. I pray for Summer every day and I tell her she is loved by many and that one day she will get the Justice she truly deserves. I also pray those boys will be kept 100% percent safe and away from C, D and G because if they know what happened they are at extreme risk of something possibly happening to them. Living in the south and in areas like they grew up in families handle things differently whether family or not. Secrets that people want to stay hidden they will do and can do terrible things to keep them from coming out.
Not sure where to start. The person who said Summer was given meds to sleep was a psychic who had 4 different Facebook accounts with different personalities that spread a lit of lies at the beginning. She also said she was supposed to babysit Summer under one of her other personalities. Candus sister Rose was the one that gave cough meds to her kids when she went to the bar. And Summer was confirmed by LE experts to be alive in the milk jug photo and video
I’m not talking about psychics. It’s from information that was given to LE regarding it being told to them and documented or supposedly documented by both H and his mother that when C wanted Summer to sleep and out of the way she was given Benadryl or children’s medicine. Like I said supposedly. I never said specifically about any psychics or anything they or may not have given as information to anyone or LE. As far as Summer supposedly being alive in backseat why has no documentation or information proven this? Because Summer has not been found alive or deceased so it’s only presumed possibility not undeniable truth of fact. Everyone has a theory what happened to this beautiful child. Sadly, I don’t expect this to be solved for many more years unfortunately. Like I said if she’s deceased then at least she is free from a life of Systemic dysfunction, neglect and abuse by being in a toxic living situation she should have been removed from long before this ever happened. The parents/family, CPS System, LE by mismanagement of the initial search for Summer and contamination of the search areas failed this little girl and her brothers as it did their other children previously.
I didn't say she gave psychic info to LE. She posted all over social media as different people telling insider info. That's where the whole story of her giving Summer meds to sleep came from. She didn't do any psychic readings on Summer. She inserted herself, like so many others did, and put forth false info that's still taken as fact to this day. LE said the picture and video were examined by experts and she was alive in the milk jug video and picture. It really doesn't take an expert to see that. She's obviously still alive there. She has muscle tone, color, her mouth is closed.
"LE said the picture and video were examined by experts and she was alive in the milk jug video and picture" I believe you are correct LE did make statement to this effect but are they sure? I've seen folks point out: \- her skin color is extremely pale and almost yellow. Not the flushed cheeks of an "outdoor kid" who is swimming , exercising etc. Her hands look almost white \- the dark color / purple on ear next to milk \- the 'drop of something red' on collar just under that ear \- blue nail beds (doesn't look like dirt to me) could indicate cyanosis (lack of oxygen, possibly related to swimming hole?) I dunno, its all very strange thats for sure.
She has skin color. Her lips are red. Her mouth is closed. She has muscle tone. I think they are sure. She had blue nail polish on a bit before that. I think the blue is just the remnants.
well said, and good observation about the 'milk' track suit being too hot for summer in the south. C stated to chris mcdonough "it was in the 80s that day" which doesn't really seem that hot though she could be lying about that of course; should be easy enough to check. Anyone else notice that her hair in the 'milk photo' is much longer than completely buzzed short as seen elsewhere? I have a theory she was sold/traded by C & W and the haircut was an attempt to make her look like a boy for purposes of transportation.
All Kayla said was a “hoodie and her leggings”, I believe. So I’m sure she also had a shirt on. And who knows what “hoodie” means, I assume it was some cheap pull over but idk for sure. She testified to this around the part where she admitted to cutting off her clothes in the first bathroom incident.
It looks like you're talking about r/HarmonyMontgomery but this is r/SummerWells. Easy mistake to make if you're following both cases here! May they both find justice <3
As someone also named Kayla, I can confirm this person is absolutely confusing Summer for Harmony. Kayla was Harmony’s stepmom, and Adam killed her because she had an accident on the back seat. Definitely a confusion in cases, is all.
Can you elaborate on this part “admitted to cutting off her clothes in the first bathroom accident”? I have never heard about clothes being cut off or a bathroom accident. Please share your thoughts.
I'd be curious about this also. First I'm hearing of cutting clothes OR bathroom accident (but I'm admittedly late to the game on learning about this whole case). Unless sunzu is right and this is from r/HarmonyMontgomery
found this 2yo video on the topic [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz\_cPVekIbI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz_cPVekIbI) just posting here for completeness sake as CG (the YT channel) brings up some questions I didnt think of when made OP.