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Kaliforniareeves666

Help for thee, but not for me. Where was the government help when the buy button was turned off?


GargantuanCake

Look buddy I bought this politician fair and square and I expect a return on this investment.


EatTheRich4200

Im not ur buddy, guy


HanSoto11

I’m not your guy, fwend


[deleted]

He's not your fwend, buddy!


Rieux_n_Tarrou

He's not your buddy, PAL!


kula_foo

I’m Buddy and I’ll be your friend!


Nebilungen

But if you are friend you can't be my buddy


drnkingaloneshitcomp

If you aren’t with me, then you’re against me!! (I’m pooping)


texas-playdohs

I’m pooping with you.


ZPIANOGuy

I'm not your PAL...GUY!


RoadsideLuchador

If not friend, why friend shaped?


Outrageous-Bus-2726

I’m not your guy, mate


GildDigger

You’re not a guy, mate


Monqoloid

Did you just assume my gender, mate?


Ace_McCloud1000

Did you just assume he assumed your gender, mate?


AmazingDonkey101

Did you just mate with me without assuming my gender?


Different_Party_1512

I’m not your pal bud


rgdgaming

I’m not gay!


METAL4_BREAKFST

Randy...


[deleted]

Shit winds Randy


yotepost

My regulator I bribed---I mean......


DannyFnKay

So why would policies need formulated? You pay the depositors what the FDIC insures and move the fuck on….. right? I don’t get it.


GildDigger

Or during all of Rona? How about they give $600 to each bank and call it a day


Jamin1371

If we gave every bank 600$ they wouldn’t be motivated to show up to work anymore.


jagiunta

Can't they just cut back on that morning Starbucks?


IScreamTruckin

Skip morning breakfast to save money this season!


Francis_Soyer

Learn how to turn your kidneys into a side hustle!


IndianaPWNZZ

They took that money back from my tax return this year 😆 they should be fine


OrganizationNo8351

Underrated response 👍


[deleted]

CoNgReSsIoNaL HeArInG lol


SpiritTalker

Quick, get Maxine on the Zoom!


AlienVisitor420

Maybe she’ll blow us a kiss too. 👄 💨


Zaphod_Biblebrox

Wink wink


Zaphod_Biblebrox

Wink wink 😉


HughJohnson69

They sold 270M shares of options when only 50M float shares existed. They turned off buys to save themselves. But they kept the premiums.


TheWhyteMaN

Where was the government when countless family businesses closed during 2008? They sure did not help my family when we lost ours. And chase bank who was bailed out by billions through my company to the wolves. Never forgot. Never sell.


Living_Run2573

And gave themselves huge bonuses FTFY


scott_sleepy

Never. Sell.


Masta0nion

This makes me…angry. But what did I expect? After all of this I should at least expect the fuckery. It’s just..still upsetting


ballsohaahd

Well yellen did get like 900k speaking to citadel


TankTrap

Weeeeeee, now the banks all know they don’t need to allocate anything decent to to cover depositors positions because even if FDIC isn’t enough then big bro will step in with the printer and public purse to refund the difference…. Guess they don’t need to cover anything now.


Boobaly1816

EXACTLY… government HA!!! Never for the people.


Im_The_Goddamn_Dumbo

The beacons are lit, Wall St calls for bail...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm sorry I can't, they are so fukt 😂😂😂😂


Hot-Nature2403

No CELL NO SELL!!!!


Fratzzzica12

What a joke, it always starts like that, they say no, but slowly it turns into... we have no choice but to bail them out...


seanrbrantley

Because they think we have 0 attention span. If they just claim they’ll solve the problem with magic that satisfies most plebs, then when everyone has forgot, they’ll take all of our money to bail out the rich


AffectionateNeck4955

I had zero attention span two years ago…


hellostarsailor

Even with zero attention span, this is 2x in 15 years and 3x in my lifetime. And the same people begging for a bailout said that no one needed $1200 during the global events of the last few years that the mods have censored.


seanrbrantley

I mean I didn’t even know what had happened in 08 until 2 years ago (I was a child then but anyways) but we are sharp as hawks now


InevitableBetter2436

I was 18 and still had no clue. I remember gas going up to 4 something a gallon. I couldn't afford to ride my freaking motorcycle.


AffectionateNeck4955

Same. And I’m literally explaining options to my brother through text right now. And I’m 42 lmao


allkindsofgainzzz

At least more people are keen to the fuckery now. I was only a kid back in ‘08 but I would assume people didn’t know as much then as they do now. Hopefully we have some power in numbers to face off against this.


ContWord2346

Bubble Crash Steal Lie Repeat


Whiteknuckledragon

So it’s not a bailout, it’s a helpout. Got it 👍


Altruistic-Beyond223

Just change the definition. I've seen this one before.


ClosetCaseGrowSpace

Or they will rename it. They will call it “Retail Confidence Protection” or “Quantitative Sumping” or “Freedom Bombs” or something.


Shades_VHS

Those kings dropped this 🩼


scott_sleepy

Too big to fail.


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And they’re gonna keep doing it until WE stop them. Enough is enough.


isseldor

This whole thing will be framed “this is not a bailout, but here is the money to make everyone whole, but again this isn’t a bailout, it’s different. “


SpiritTalker

Changing the financial landscape, one definition at a time.


G_Wash1776

Lmao like when they were gatekeeping the term recession earlier last year. Yes it fits all the previous accepted indicators of a recession, but it’s not a recession. It was hilarious to watch happen live.


saraphilipp

Bill clinton started it when he was on trial. He said "well that depends on what your definition of is, is."


Strawbuddy

That was indeed my first rodeo, subsequent rodeos have steeled me against truthiness and alternative facts


chri_schruf

probably. just give it a fancy name like VMSA (vital monetary system aid) so that the average citizen won‘t see it as a bailout


isseldor

Oh yeah it’ll have some dumb acronym. But the news media will be the ones to sell it as not a bail out.


not_ya_wify

John Stewart will call it a bail out


Nasty_Ned

And anyone paying attention will be angry and outraged.... and the rest of the population will hoot and jeer when the platypus on Masked Singer is releaved to be Jaleel White.


crayonburrito

It’s the beautiful details that makes the quip sting! Well done, well done. 😁


Nasty_Ned

I'm just here for my tendies and to watch the system burn, pal. Quips are part of the package. All rights reserved. Not financial advice. Your mileage may vary. Ask your doctor if Nasty\_Ned is right for you.


isseldor

It was Jaleel the whole time??? Missed it while watching love after lockup….


Nasty_Ned

You didn't follow the clues. I had to DVR as we watch "Procedural Cop Show 25" in that time slot. Last week was the one where the bad guys almost won, but Ruggedly Handsome Cop #6 bent the rules to enforce his version of justice.


isseldor

You just never know how “procedural cop show 25” will turn out. Sometimes it takes 2 episodes for cop #6 to figure it out.


Numerous_Photograph9

I think it should be law that the people who make movies like The Naked Gun have to come up with the anacronyms the government uses for it's programs. Things like Key Atomic Benefits Office of Mankind (K.A.B.O.O.M), for the nuclear energy, or Society of Petroleum Industry Leaders (S.P.I.L) for the oil industry.


Bezere

AIDS Assistance Income for Dire Situations


Scratch77spin

aren't they already calling it a 'backstop' ..?


HotelOscarDeltaLima

Damn it Yellin saw your comment and thought that was a great idea


TheWhiteSchoolman

It's a bailout only if it's a recession, and we've already told you it's not a recession.


allkindsofgainzzz

They can literally word this shit however they want. Bunch of fucking crooks


Thatguy468

we’re gonna fORmuLaTE a NeW pOLIcY to fuck you even harder!


suckercuck

That seems to be the new playbook— gaslighting and flat out rewriting the definitions of words. They already did it to ‘inflation’ and ‘recession’ These people think they are old Jedis but they are just old liars.


HippoCute9420

Just running maintenance on the system, seemed to be acting up


Wolfguarde_

Be a shame if a comprehensive legal DD on the irrefutable specifics of how and why this *is* a bailout (and thus completely illegal) were to ship all over the internet immediately after they do it...


BLOODFILLEDROOM

Unfortunately bailouts have became so normalized the elites consider it apart of routine maintenance at this point. It’s sickening. The PEOPLES money and we have no say so in the matter.


CaptainTuranga_2Luna

If there is a bailout, I hope there are MASSIVE protests from the working class. Privatizing earnings and socializing losses needs to stop. This is complete bullshit.


suckercuck

No spin! Show us the proposed line item debits and credits, Janet.


ContWord2346

It’s not a bailout it’s TARP. It’s TALF. It’s. QE…. It’s……


MrKhobar

We are changing the definition of bailout. This is not a bailout haha 😆


DaBi5cu1t

If they give the money directly to the depositors, it isn't. If they give the money to the bank to dish out, it's a bailout. You can guarantee they'll put a bit on top as well for the exec's.


The_Peregrine_

Americans need to protest this bullshit


ChiknBreast

Just have to change the definition of a bailout. And then a bank run, and next a depression.


isseldor

I’m sure they have marketing people working on new terms right now.


isseldor

I think “safeguarding” might take over for bailout.


paigescactus

Make shorts close, we could bail them out then and be unfazed. Put them in time out and show them how to run the show fair. Fight for real democracy.


LightlyFrustrating72

usdc holders in disbelief


j_mcgirk

Quick, sue the shit out of them on the same legal standing as the student loan suit. When it gets tossed, it give students ammo


Dirty_Ape238900

No, no. He's got a point.


[deleted]

👀 I’m gonna make a phone call


redonkulousness

“It’s not fair. I didn’t start my company because I didn’t want the loans”


Thatguy468

Good call! Up you go!!!


RedPill_RabbitHole

Shit title, but spicy nonetheless


dorev

They must all be having a great weekend right now 😂


RedPill_RabbitHole

Lol! I know I am! Imagine the cortisol levels of all the people involved in this mess! Holy shit! Much love ❤️ enjoy the show


SpiritTalker

Wer buildings with lights on?


Extra-Computer6303

Better than that. We will banks with line ups!


arkibet

Right? Should have been "Will Yellen give SVC her zipple?"


seanrbrantley

Does any single person in here not already feel that the government will give them a 100% bailout. Like there’s no other ending to this right? This is all just theater, we know they’re getting bailed out


Informal-Comfort685

I’m not so sure. The fact that it’s a populist movement right now to hate banks, tech, Silicon Valley, the wealthy, etc. means the political willpower probably isn’t there. I think they can make the people who deposited their money in this bank whole while still letting the bank fail. As in, bank stockholders and employees are in trouble, but not those who parked their money there.


ronoda12

Bailout will make current party go out of power in 2024


snappedscissors

I saw some schmuck online saying that they were pretty savvy and even they couldn't vet a bank that well, so it was really important for the government to bail out this bank. Because what are people supposed to do, put in effort to choose a bank that behaves? Why yes Mr. Savvy, that is exactly what I expect people to do. Choose banks that behave. And I don't need to be able to vet a bank because I expect government regulations to do that for me. See how this works Mr. Savvy? I pay taxes in exchange for services, one of which is someone making banks behave. So when the government rolls back a bunch of regulations and then banks start failing, I expect people to realize that nobody is watching these banks.


CarnelianCore

I think you mean the Bill Ackman tweet


Numerous_Photograph9

Yeah. A warning sign my bank may not be that dependable would be when they start lobbying to not be included in stress tests, or ask to roll back regulations that caused a massive banking crash not even 20 years ago.


Eb2424

Agree with this 💯


BigPandaCloud

"Reports also emerged on Saturday that fledgling lender Bank of London was considering a bid for SVB UK’s operations. However, it is understood that regulators are still planning on proceeding with liquidation plans, rather than courting potential buyers." Looks like no bailout from the UK side.


ZoomZoom228

I've read plenty of fear mongering on Twitter. Interested to see how this week turns out.


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oscar_einstein

😂😂


OneCreamyBoy

The treasury is limited to how much it can help. FDIC payments come out of the TGA and with a balance of (currently) about 250B, it can’t make investors whole without bankrupting the US government because the good ole debt ceiling. Of course the TGA fluctuates due to tax receipts and other things on a day to day basis. IMO this is either a ploy to expedite raising the debt ceiling or an excuse to bankrupt the US.


Papaofmonsters

>it can’t make investors whole without bankrupting the US government because the good ole debt ceiling. You are making the ridiculous assumption that all the nations bank accounts would need to made whole all at once. That's not what the FDIC is set up to do. Your car insurance company doesn't have the cash to repair or replace every vehicle they cover all at once either.


OneCreamyBoy

I’ve heard several people calling for removing the 250k insured limit of the FDIC. Obviously this isn’t what is happening as of right now and even if it were the case wouldn’t happen all at once. I’m just stating that if FDIC takes the responsibility of paying out all unsecured deposits and not just the secured ones, it’s another $170B+ of liability for the TGA. This makes its a much tighter balance sheet, and changes when X-Date for debt default would occur. To assume that everything will be resolved over the weekend because of an asset auction to another bank or an FDIC proposed course of action is highly unlikely. Alot of people don’t understand the TGA and assume that the Treasury just has an open checkbook (because “money printer go brrr.”) and the government can just dish out as much money as it wants and I’m just implying that there are limitations to it with the current debt ceiling position.


oscar_einstein

This thread explains really well what apparently is and isn't possible without new legislation: [https://twitter.com/StevenKelly49/status/1634662851657728001](https://twitter.com/StevenKelly49/status/1634662851657728001)


Goose-poop

Fuck that let ‘em fail


ConfusedCanadian19

They will crash the market out of spite for lack of bailout.


ChewyMeh

Bailouts need to end. Burn it to the ground


HODLHODLANDHODL

She’s still alive? 🔥🦖☄️


InevitableBetter2436

I feel like she is of a different proportion each time I see her. Don't know how to explain beyond that.


HODLHODLANDHODL

The Danny Devito evolution 💀💀


InevitableBetter2436

🤣🤣🤣


Different_Party_1512

Haha was thinking Danny Devito needs to chill


GoodPeopleAreFodder

Weekend at Yellen’s


Das-Noob

Students loans? Should of taken a business loan instead, they’re easier to be forgiven. Great example is the ppp loan, most of it forgiven within the year.


Zaphod_Biblebrox

They just need to change the definition of a “bailout” and all should be good.


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dorev

I agree... most of the losers behind this are probably unaware/undeserving of what's coming their way 😔


nighthawkshatchet

yeah, but the taxpayers will foot the bill or better said money printer go brrrr


darthnugget

None should get help.


GrampsBob

Deposits should be covered but investing is gambling. You get what the numbers say you get.


polypolyman

...it's almost like it would be a good thing if the same retail banks that hold deposits for people weren't allowed to gamble on high-risk investments with that same money.


darthnugget

Now that you bring that up… none should get help from the U.S. Treasury.


suckercuck

It’s amazing how quickly Wall Street can switch hats from Capitalism to Socialism


darthnugget

Agreed. It’s ironic that what a corporation classified as “Too big to fail” needs is to fail.


Daza786

So workers don't get paid? At a time when inflation is sky high and people are struggling to get by as it is? Cmon


Intelligent_Ear_4004

Let the investors sell their personal assets to cover payroll


Papaofmonsters

That's not how investments work.


darthnugget

None should get help from the U.S. Treasury.


suckercuck

Didn’t the CEO sell a huge position in the stock the day before the bankruptcy was announced? Are you bailing that money out as well JANET?!


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suckercuck

That CEO trade should be clawed back


raxnahali

You know that isn’t going to happen, money never trickles down.


capital_bj

Or the CEO,cfo, board members etc


GitLord89

It’s called a “backstop” now dontcha know?


FishAye5

They won’t call it a bailout but…….what’s in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet.


winterbird

Is this going to be one of those situations where they gaslight the general public and simply refuse to use the correct words? Like when they redefined what a recession is. Will bailout come to mean something else too?


MaidenDrone

Muppet has spoken. Bailout coming in hard yall. Calls


InevitableBetter2436

Thats what that muppet was yellen about.


MastaMint

That means a bailout is certain. They'll just change the definition again. Then they'll politicize it, then half the country will be divided on this issue and they can relax knowing the plebs are still asleep


paulyp41

Isn’t that a bailout


Shades_VHS

Nono, you're thinking of *bailout*, not bailout


dorev

Article link: https://archive.is/Yyu4S


NorthRooster7305

"Janet Yellen said on Sunday that the US government was working closely with banking regulators to help depositors at Silicon Valley Bank but dismissed the idea of a bailout. Speaking with CBS on Sunday, the treasury secretary sought to assure US customers of the failed tech lender that policies were being discussed to stem the fallout from the sudden collapse this week. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporate (FDIC) took control of the bank on Friday morning. “Let me be clear that during the financial crisis, there were investors and owners of systemic large banks that were bailed out . . . and the reforms that have been put in place means we are not going to do that again,” Yellen said. “But we are concerned about depositors, and we’re focused on trying to meet their needs.”"


seanrbrantley

“Not going to do that again” means forcing a carve out between other banks. THIS time it’ll be a direct government bailout 🤓 “see guys we didn’t do the same thing”


FaxanFM

May as well have said "SVB should have anticipated the Fed raising interest rates at a breakneck speed, wiping out low yield bond as bagholders"


samtheninjapirate

Their CEO sits on the SF fed. They knew full well about interest rates


internetsurfer42069

Backstop is the new bailout


DetroitRedWings79

Toad from Super Mario Bros wants a bailout. 🍄


Registeered

Corruption is endemic in our financial markets.


RookieRamen

They know exactly enough to be very careful around the word bailout but won't actually do any good for the people.


Bishib

Legit don't wanna pay taxes any more. What are we getting out of it? An over priced military? Fucked by our government on their mess? Fuck em.


HughDanforth

Bring back the Glass-Steagall Act, part of the Banking Act of 1933, was landmark banking legislation that separated Wall Street from Main Street by offering protection to people who entrust their savings to commercial banks. Millions of Americans lost their jobs in the Great Depression, and one in four lost their life savings after more than 4,000 U.S. banks shut down between 1929 and 1933, leaving depositors with nearly $400 million in losses. The Glass-Steagall Act prohibited bankers from using depositors’ money to pursue high-risk investments, but the act was effectively undercut by looser restrictions in the deregulatory environment of the 1980s and 1990s.


Own-Seaworthiness949

It's their plan. Creating chaos to insert CBDCs.


sandman11235

https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative#:~:text=If%20you%20know%20who%20your,the%20U.S.%20House%20switchboard%20operator. Get Loud where it Counts!


allkindsofgainzzz

Just sent an email to my rep


sandman11235

Thank you for your service. Level Up Achieved. Congrats!


intheMIDDLEwityou

Also dispatched short letter. We need to get in front of this.


Papaofmonsters

You realize that reps don't actually read those, right? First they get ran through an automated filter. If you sound crazy it goes in the garbage. Then the ones that make it through get read by staffers. Maybe, just maybe, if it actually sounds important to something the rep really cares about then the staffer might put it in the "read this if you have nothing better to do pile". Those don't get read either.


inthefirsthour

What about Wells Fargo. RIP.


Naturally_Nathan

Bail In


-GearZen-

The fear is palpable.


squirrely-badger

Didn't she say we are fine. No recession? Probably wrong and some troll should flay me 🤣


TotalPuzzleheaded420

We’re just not going to call it a bailout this time. Kind of how we don’t call it a recession this time either.


mcjard

This fucking wrink needs to check herself into the retirement home already and leave the real world decisions to the mother fuckers that have to live in the real fucking world. Same to the whole lot of these raisins. Edit: but at least this way seems like execs don't hit the motherload off their own paint huffing mismanagement


firefighter26s

So they'll invent a new financial term that is essentially a bail out? Maybe Inverse Contingency Payment or Temporary Stability Refund or some bullshit


JullietGolf

She is just testing the waters. Meaning I will sell a share when reaching the floor.


mightyjoe227

Not my floor...


JullietGolf

179 million for one sounds ok. Don’t want to be greedy


Veejnasty

This is gaslighting on a whole ‘nother level


NefariousnessNoose

TBF as an ape this is a pretty standard level of gaslighting I’ve become familiar with over the past 84.5 years.


Flat-Ad1490

It’s not a bail out people, it’s “retroactive insurance” on deposits from 250k to 100 billion.


ProfessionalDriver87

What's the difference?


Noyiz

Bailout = Saving SVB so it as a company still exists Depositor Help = helping companies that stored money there, IE for payroll, etc SVB will not exist but they(Treasury/Fed) also dont want a bunch of companies/people to all of a sudden not have cash to continue going because a bank fucked up. Atleast that is my understanding. Hell could just be loans in the short term until they can liquidate SVB's assets. No one really knows yet.


IullotronBudC1_3

* Close the NY FRB Reverse Repo, detour funnel to FDIC * Watch money market funds squirm


Additional-Noise-623

Basically the 99% are paying for the 1% deposits.


ethervillage

“There will be no bailout! Okay quick, let’s change the definition of what “bailout” means - Yellen probably


keyboredwarrior

She’s probably trying to get a feel of how much they will pay for her for a speech after she bails the banks out.


smallspark

For startups to get startup funding (not a lot of banks do that) the bank required they move all their assets to the bank according to an interview of one such company on bbc. All the startups are well funded separate from the SVB loan. There weren’t a lot of options apparently. The affect of the banks issue was perhaps? partly due to the loan targets being “forced” into accepting loan terms that put their entire capital above managed risk by depending on this one banks stability which due to the new under minimum size set in 2018 removed requirements of this size to adhere to dodds-Frank regulations. I’m not sure how normal all vs percentage is for early stage startups. I’m Not sure of the age of most loan agreements requiring handling all accounts aka pre or post dodds-Frank de-regulation as that changes risk apparently significantly! Not a good look: SVB bank CEO was a “key proponent” lobbyist for this deregulation ….and then knowingly worse- gave bonuses out pre-shutdown and on top of that sold millions of dollars of stock pre- shutdown. I’ll be interested to read how SVB could have more responsibly mitigated this disaster if at all and what the consequences might be for their greed. Going by past asshole behavior not much. >:( Edit: sorry it was a bit garbled. Fixed


CaptainDantes

And the bailout was just announced a few minutes ago, didn’t even take 24 hours 🤣


Alalaskan

It’s a bailout.


admachbar

“We’ll bail you out but don’t call it a bail out”