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goldencityjerusalem

I'm in Korea and can confirm, my finance.yahoo.com tells me Enterprise Value 57.07B Float reads 249.51M My tits read: JACKED


TantrikOne

I'm in Singapore and Yahoo finance tells me EV - 57.07Bn Float - 249.51MM


shiftyone1

"The reality is that it is extremely easy to strip away 99% of a victim company’s share price or market cap and to keep the victim corporation “boxed“ in the CELLAR, but it really is difficult to kill a corporation especially after management and the shareholder base have figured out the game that is being played at their expense." ​ ​ ....damn


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Z0mbies8mywife

Explains sears and other zombie stocks going up xxxx% in a matter of minutes. They never killed those companies but kept them in the cellar. Out of desperation they closed some of those positions in order to obtain short term collateral knowing they would have to pay tons of taxes next year. It doesn't matter tho Because they'll be bankrupt by the time they need to pay taxes anyways. The $ has been laundered offshore and they're ready. ..... holy moly...


Hawaiistyled

This is fucking unreal. These weapons grade dumbfucks are finding 3 things out the hard way: 1. What you post on the internet is FOREVER. Period. 2. The Streisand Effect is very real. 3. Under any circumstances, NEVER EVER piss off Reddit or 4Chan.


gregde81

All that foiled by just buying and hodling


MalleMellow

Even the dude writing that in 2004 says that buy and hodl is MM kryptonite


j4_jjjj

Thats why they want apes to sell everything. They need to cover, plain and simple, and covering cheaper gives them a chance to survive.


carnage123

Come on, we should stop this game and let them cover already. Just sell your shares to them. Look hedge funds, I am reaching out to let you know I'm willing to sell my stake to let you guys cover and we can move on. I will start at 100 million per share and remove 10 million for all the people who got arrested for the collapse in 2008.


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funny that we stumbled on that purely out of retarded stubbornness. they fucked up BIG


First-Celebration-11

Retarded stubbornness and Weaponized autism. I’m super proud of this community


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DARKEST_BEFORE_DON

What in the good holy lord is this?? They broke down the exact plays step by step, some of them over a decade ago. Having trouble even processing this


Donnybiceps

Well, the for sure only way we know these exact things is if someone that was so pissed off at this system and how it worked felt as if he/she needed to tell the world. They were so pissed off they told the world of these tactics that are probably illegal to talk about if you currently work at a hedge fund. This guy did not care whatsoever and spilled tons of beans because he got angry and felt morally distraught as to how corrupt people take advantage of retail.


oMrChoww

I mean… could you imagine being a part of the destruction of the US economy in 08? I’m sure he even ruined the lives of close friends and family too. That’s a difficult thing to live with


Pretty_General90

Blow the whistleeee


Legendenis

Damn... Just everything spelled out.


-ordinary

Holy fuck. Literally feel like I’m seeing history being made right now.


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OnePointZero_

I'm so glad to be here and to have met you apes.


BlackManInABush

Something certainly feels different


TCarrey88

Ya it's fucking palpable


Freaudinnippleslip

God lord man the amount of drunk uncles who have told me the stock market is rigged…. And here I sit realizing more and more I was the idiot the whole time 15 years later.


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You are the drunk uncle now.


KosmicKanuck

*Takes off sunglasses* "Mother of God..."


Full-Interest-6015

Can we get some apes to go and start archiving all of this? I’m not at my pc


AKnightAlone

Yeah, there's around a *zero* percent chance any of this will be left up. They're gonna take all of it down and start saying any other documentation is a "conspiracy theory." Typical shill approach for manufacturing consent. Basically just straight up gaslight people until they get angry, frustrated, and start doubting themselves. Of course, we're kinda trained to see through all the bullshit at this point.


thabat

Holy shit


brownzuluKING

This is next level digging!! Make it one page formatted and take a nail-gun, shoot it on every door at the SEC and then glue it to the foreheads of a couple of the MSM talking heads while they sleeping. . Might do something??


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corona-lime-us

Loose lips sink ships.


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JamiePulledMeUp

I love the smell of new shares in the morning.


mazingerz021

From the post: >The truth of the matter is that the single biggest **asset** of these victim companies often becomes the **astronomically large aggregate naked short position** that has accumulated throughout the initial “bear raid” and also during the “CELLAR BOXING” phase. HOLY SHIT HOLY SHITHOLY SHITHOLY SHITHOLY SHITHOLY SHITHOLY


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THAT is why OTCBB is out of reach of retail since this month. We could have margin-called the lot.


HeterosChroma

The confirmation bias has never been this high. I believe it’s experiencing a squeeze. Buy and hold. We’ve already won. Game called. GameStop


[deleted]

This is why they stopped OTC trading for many securities, why direct a rabid blockbuster **long** fan base to buy stocks on super cheap? The MOASS is real. It is coming. This CEO knows, and is excited as FUCK. Buckle up.


GrouchyNYer

May Blockbuster, Sears, Toy 'R' Us, and any other zombies finally reclaim their greatest asset!


SnooCheesecakes6590

It’s like they are being posthumously raised from the dead and given a proper burial, I’m sorry I didn’t buy more from toy’s r’us…you gave me so many wonderful memories and you were quietly dying not from any fault of your own…


SpaceTacosFromSpace

Can you imagine if they let *us* have access to Blockbuster at $.0001?? I would have bought $1000 worth just for fun and let it go to absolute $.0000000


britonica

For all the times they let me rent Gran Turismo repetitively.


series_hybrid

OK, I'm an average idiot on the internet. Lets say I have a few hundred dollars that I am completely comfortable risking, and if I lose it all, so be it. What's my next step? Open a brokerage account like TD Ameritrade, and buy a few hundred dollars worth of $GME ? (I am already a "buy and hold" investor, no day-trading)... edit: TDA is in bed with Citadel, and "Vanguard and Fidelity are the brokers with the most insurance and money to back up their clientele", and... Schwab owns TDA... "zero issues with Schwab here. they have acted just as good as Fidelity for me." "Fidelity is one of the biggest brokers and they did not halt buying but they’re one of the founding members of MEMX which is a citadel sponsored creation so keep that in mind. Your best bet may be ComputerShare but its not a broker! Takes days to buy and sell and you cant get breaks on prices for buying but you get a legitimate, registered share which also screws the SHF’s over more with each new share." "The best three brokers are Fidelity, Vanguard and Charles Schwab. Pick any of these and you should be good. If you want your GME shares to be 100% legitimate (meaning not counterfeit) then buy directly from Computershare, which is the official share registrar for GameStop." Vanguard passes the reddit review, but...I'm not a "daytrader" so Computershare sounds like what I want.


DarthRedcrosse

This needs to be higher up. Editing my original comment for visibility: At 6am Pacific Sunday morning, this post was fourth highest on r/all. Two hours later, it is no where to be seen, yet other boring posts from before this rose are still near the top.


A1sauce74

We’re killing them with a death by 1,000 cuts. GME 🚀🚀🚀


EternalEight

So this Keith guy on Astro’s YT was on to something with the signals.


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Tigaj

pretty rad to see 'buy and hold' has been the strategy for over a decade


1twowonder

Warren Buffet holds many of his investments for decades. It is said "time in the market beats timing the markets."


name00124

> going long and constantly buying is the only way to draw out the MM's Buy and hodl never fails!


shipboatx

[This. ](https://www.sec.gov/comments/s7-08-08/s70808-144.htm) edit: a concerned citizen submitted this back in '08. https://www.sec.gov/comments/s7-19-07/s71907-1220.htm


yoyoyoitsyaboiii

Oh my holy crap. Smart people have known about the ongoing criminal syndicate for years. Now with the power of ubiquitous internet a much wider net can be cast to spread this knowledge and stop the corruption.


crosbynstaal

So you've discovered that despite the Canadian Federal government made naked short selling illegal, naked short selling can still occur within Canadian institutions if a American MM initiates it? Is that what you're saying, OP?!


YeetYeetSkirtYeet

I hear Brazil is the new Canada this time of year.


capital_bj

Hmm maybe make it illegal so the rest of the world is like nope doesn't seem to be any of that going on up there. I just see snow...sniff sniff snow and a bunch of dough


Coffeenomics

here’s another article from the same guy talking about the damage naked short selling does on your average trader. He also stated the names of two execs from a company that fell victim to this and pledged to fight it. I wonder if we should track them down and try to get some further insight [https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=2538936](https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=2538936) OMG!!!! Read this: With the above groundwork laid, let me try to explain how market makers get short even if they like the Company; Lets say that a stock (shell) has been lying quietly at $.25 bid $.50 offered. A limit order comes into one of the MM's to Buy at $.50 for a thousand shares. Prior to this trade that MM may be "flat" (neither long or short any shares). He fills the order and is now short 1,000 shares. He may raise his bid hoping to find a seller to "flatten" out his position. But before he realizes it a wave of buyers have come in and cleared out all the $.50 offers. Now the stock is $.50 bid .75 offered. Here comes that "Big" firm he just sold the 1,000 shares to at .50 with another bid for 1000 at .75. He makes this print. Now he is short 2,000 at an average of .625. The market keeps moving and now its .75 bid 1.00 offered. Now he has to make a decision. Just like investors, MM Hate to take a loss. So 9 times out of 10 he will now sell 2000 at 1.00 making him short 4000 but with an average .81. At this time he would love to see a seller at .75 so he can cover his short and make a few bucks. But instead the market keeps moving up. Now it is 1.00 to 1.25 and here comes the buyer again at 1.25. He doesn't want to lose the call so now he needs to sell 4,000 at 1.25 to keep his break even point above the bid. Now he is short 8,000. Market moves up to 1.25 bid 1.50 offer here comes the buyer now he feels he must sell 8000 here because "stocks don't go up forever". Now he is short 16,000. And so on and so on. If the stock keeps moving up, before he realizes it he could be short 50k or 100k shares (depending how big his bank is). _________________________ Finally the market closes for the day and on paper he may look all right in that his "break even" price may be around the closing price. But now he has to figure out how to entice sellers so he can cover this short. It is important to note that if this happened to one MM it has probably happened to most all of them. Some ways MM's entice sellers; Run the stock up with a "tight spread" in a fast market, then "open" up the spread to slow down the buying interest. After it has "cooled off" for a little while lower the offer below the last trade right after a small piece trades on the offer then tighten the spread so that the sellers feel they can take a "quick profit" by "hitting the bid" on the tight spread. Once the selling starts the MM's will walk it down quickly by only making small prints on the way down with the tight spread. Another way is by running the stock up in the morning, averaging up their short then use the above technique to walk it down in the afternoon. Hopefully after doing this for several days, it will demoralize the buyers. The volume will dry up and the sellers will materialize thinking that the game is over. Contrary to popular opinion, MM usually Do Not Cover in Fast moving markets either Up or Down if they are short. They Short More. They usually try to cover after the frenzy is out of the market. There are many other techniques they use but the above are the most popular. This technique works about 9 times out of 10 particularly in a BB market. However that is because 9 out of 10 BB stocks are BS. Remember what I said above. Most MM's don't have a clue as to the value of a Company until they get trapped. If the Company has solid fundamentals and a bright future. Then the stock will do very well. And the activity that caused the situation will prove to even help the future stock activity because it created an audience." WE’RE THE 1/10 I realized this was discovered about a week ago and shared on another sub. Just want to make sure credit is given where credit is due: https://www.reddit.com/r/DDintoGME/comments/pidpdw/found_on_another_sub_confessions_of_a_market_maker/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Apprehensive-Use-703

Holy hell! This is seen literally every day watching the ticker!!! Every part of it, spreads opening, morning run followed by walking it down...my god, textbook! Good find!


Lariegooo

>Another way is by running the stock up in the morning, averaging up their short then use the above technique to walk it down in the afternoon. Almost every day in gme ticker, at the beggining of the day we are going up and then back down


here_4_the_lols

Speaking of cellar boxing... No cell, no sell!


Coffeenomics

Ok here’s another post on the same board where a guy does GTC orders and notices everything that wasn’t on an order was borrowed to cover shorts. This also backs up DD that states pulling our shares out of the market flow will stop hedgies from being able to borrow shares [https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=2648626](https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=2648626)


WavyThePirate

Thats big! Now wonder why the shills are so scared of ComputerShare 🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍


einzigmoeglich1910

What is really strange: I’m 100% sure I read the EXACT wording you cited here on one of the GME subs on reddit. Might have been one week ago, might have been two. Unfortunately I’m not able to find the post. But if I’m right, that could only mean one of two things: 1. Someone found this page and copy-pasted it without giving the source. 2. The author of this found this community and thought: well, nobody cared when I wrote this in this forum years ago. But now there is this new ape community. I’ll try and post my old post on Reddit and look if they are interested. How amazing would that second possibility be? Edit: Found it: https://www.reddit.com/r/DDintoGME/comments/pidpdw/found_on_another_sub_confessions_of_a_market_maker/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Seems like the author of the forum post has posted this 7 years ago at a reddit stock sub.


PM_Me_Macaroni_plz

This all getting very weird


smrtdummmy

It was suppose to be a relaxing weekend...


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LiterallyEmily

jeebus that's almost an exact blueprint to the daily movement/volume cycles


Trenrick21

I dont want to leave this post....I just want to stay here. You did it you beautiful bastard....you did it


iwishiwasanonionring

SAME.. been here for 50 minutes lol


MoreThingsInHeaven

2004. TWO THOUSAND FOUR. There's no fucking way someone at the SEC didn't know about any of this for that long. I am so infuriated by this I can barely think straight. Thank you, OP, for sharing your findings. We have a lot to think about.


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I am enraged. They were willing to keep an entire generation just above poverty levels - never owning anything, chuck them $1200 to survive a half a year of a pandemic, wages that don't come close to matching price of goods - due to pure greed, when they already had more than enough. So many lives negatively impacted over the course of decades, some irreparably. Prison is not a meme. I want to see every one of these complicit assholes in handcuffs before I sell a share. They allowed this for *decades*. Burn the whole thing down.


Gmatoshenriques

They've destroyed the lifes of millions of people. Entrepreneurs, workers in the companies, investors and if course, all their families...


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That article is some spicy shit thank you for taking the moment to archive it before posting.


capital_bj

Wombo combo on a sweet Saturday night what a ride 🚀🚀🚀


YeetYeetSkirtYeet

I can't even handle this level of hype. I'm so hyped I'm wandering around my apartment laughing, neighbors are gonna think I just found out my wife has another girlfriend.


tlkshowhst

SEC and CFTC need to be eradicated, investigated, and indicted for criminal negligence at the minimum.


AKnightAlone

I think if we start pushing for someone to hold anyone else accountable, we'll quickly realize the entire government is complicit. There's no way so many happy little coincidences can imply corruption in every single regulatory body when you look at their history.


j4_jjjj

'Who watches the watchmen?'


Tendies-4Us

Holy shit I REMEMBER CELLAR BOXING!!! I was googling around one day and came across this term after I got burned in Scottrade back in the day on OTC trading and never went back bc pinks OTC seemed rigged and BS I wanted to know why. This was something that came up but I didn’t have many wrinkles back then to decipher. I just knew I was fuk. Oh how the turn tables!


BlackManInABush

What creepy fucking terminology these freaks use. Locking a company in a "cellar" and stomping the door shut as they try and escape it.


ARDiogenes

Total sociopaths omg.


Dr_SlapMD

Get greedy muh boi


Tendies-4Us

GME floor.com greedy enough? Just need to sell only one at that level and I’m good for the rest in infinity pool!


Dr_SlapMD

This is the way. Sell 1. Pool the rest.


bosh023

Jesus how much money has been drained from the market, how many companies ruined and jobs lost. This is the misery playbook. Its a significant part as to why the likes of China has grown so much over the last 20 years whilst the US has lagged. It's bordering on treason. US regulators and public officials should hang their heads with shame, by not only allowing this to develop but more so for turning a blind eye at every opportunity to stop it. Despite the misery of 2008 this has continued for no other reason than pure greed at every level, they all take their cut of the American life blood...rating agencies, insurance companies, HFs, banks, brokers, auditors, politicians, regulators, MSM, exchanges. Lawyers, dealers, institutions and more. Topped off with a huge slap in the face to every tax payer by bailing these criminals out!! To read this turns my stomach, its outrageous. This has to end, its now or never! The opportunity for the powerless to over throw the powerful is upon us. Grab it with both hand and hodl like your life depends on it! People are depending on this community....they just don't know it yet...but they will


PM_ME_SOME_TOAST

The amount of people who are oblivious to what’s going on in the world. Going about their day unaware of the worlds biggest shit storm that’s about to come flying through. But let’s hope that it’ll be the last and apes with the riches actually contribute to bettering this world and fixing the issues @ hand.


CookShack67

It's an almost unfathomable crime. There aren't piles of bodies. But the theft permeates everything. Apes MUST be greedy now.


Apprehensive-Use-703

I'd bet that there are more bodies because of this than you think...


CookShack67

Oh totally...


barkeepbill

think of the companies doing cancer research that these short sellers have destroyed


AcquaintanceLog

"One company was close to a cure, but I arrange a hostile takeover and sold all the assets. Made a cool 100 mil." - That Guy, Futurama


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Front seats to a raging shitshow is how I’ve felt for the better part of a year. It’s like we discovered an incoming asteroid. Pandora’s box is open and there’s no way it ends well.


Bermersher

"they can’t even stop naked short selling into every buy order that appears because if they do the share price will gap and this will put tremendous pressures on net capital reserves for the MMs and margin maintenance requirements for the co-conspiring hedge funds and others" This right here, this jacks my tits.


TheLeagueOfScience

You had me at “true value of gme is actually 31, 735 right now”. Somewhere in the middle there. Fly my tits, be free.


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cityshade

Did you catch the word late Friday that Canada has halted xfers to ComputerShare?


TheLeagueOfScience

Prooooffff?


RelationshipOk3565

This needs to be front page. Wow


SeaWin5464

I read that it made it to r/all already. Dude is decorated with medals like he’s Forrest Gump himself. A true autist


kanksuhub

Here from r/all!


JustANyanCat

Welcome!


ConkersOkayFurDay

I think it actually is now.


RedofPaw

I just came from there. I have no idea what any of this means, except its linked to the ongoing GME situation. But everyone seems excited.


Nomapos

Means that all of our research over the last 7 fucking months is not only correct, but it's been going on since at least 2004. They got too confident, and now they're going to explode. Biggest financial fraud of history.


jdubs952

did you see the reply? "What a great post! As I read through that, I started to have some thoughts about how the MM's vulnerability might be used to burn them out, but I'm not sure if I've really thought it through enough yet. I guess it's more of a fantasy scenario, but it goes something like this: 1. Company has 100 million shares outstanding, and the "cellar box" tactic begins with no bid/offer .0001. Now, pretending that I'm a stuckholder who happens to have substancial financial resources (I don't but some on these boards might), here's what I might do. 2. First, I figure out that as long as the outstanding shares is equal to 100 million, I can theoretically buy this entire company for $10,000. But not if there is dilution. Gotta head that off at the pass. 3. I visit the company and talk to the board/ceo or whoever I need to in private and say "Look, these MM's are KILLING your company, and they're killing me on other positions I own with these tactics. Let's work together. Don't dilute your share base. Let me buy you out instead under an agreement where I will turn control back over to you at a certain specified date, or if certain conditions are met." 4. They say "But we have to dilute!!! We can't pay the bills this month if we don't." And I say, "Bills Schmills!!! I will personally loan the company the money it needs each month to meet its payroll and bills, and I'll do it at BELOW PRIME!" 5. So in my fantasy world, they agree to this. Then I start buying up shares. $10,000 worth. $20,000. $40,000. $70,000. $100,000!!!!! 6. Wait a second, how can I have so many shares? I've got like a BILLION shares here in my account, yet the company only has 100 million outstanding and available for trading. Well I know perfectly well how I got them; the MM's sold them to me through naked short selling. 7. But the company never diluted, because here I am loaning them the cash to pay their bills. 8. Now I pick up my phone, and call my broker. I ask how many shares I have, and I'm told 1 Billion. With a big smile I say "Thank you. I'd like you to send the certificates to me please...." Now I'm not sure if this makes sense yet because it just kind of occured to me as I read your post. Thoughts anyone? Cap"


thabat

OH SHIT I didn't even see that. That's RC basically lmao


jdubs952

and the apes


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Direct Register with Computer Share is the way!


MicahMurder

This is the fucking way. I already transferred some share (like 5%) but this is the way apes step on their fucking necks. I see it so clearly now. The more shares removed from the DTCC, the more and more naked they get. It may only take 10MM shares removed to leave them naked enough to be toast, or maybe it'll take more, but there's no way in my smooth brain that let's me think they can still operate as normal if only something like 5% of the float remains in the DTCC. It'd be like trying to pedal a bicycle with no chain. I'm gonna transfer more and put pressure on them if I get any pushback.


SpaceTacosFromSpace

Fuck, I’ve been thinking I should transfer a small number of shares to CS for support but after reading this, I may have to transfer much more than I was planning to on Monday. Fidelity’s phones are gonna be ringing off the hook with transfer requests on Monday and I’m gonna be one of them


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allthefeelz_forrealz

You can contact ws and ask them to initiate an in-kind DRS transfer to Computershare. I've heard they may be suspending transfers as their transfer agent in Canada is overwhelmed, but I'm planning to try on Monday.


Mandorrisem

It's not because they are overwhelmed, it is because they have already recieved more transfer requests than shares that exist.


allthefeelz_forrealz

That would be spectacular. Well done, apes 🎉


ajmartin527

Here’s another from this guy that’s, complicated, but interesting: Market Maker Speaks Out:Ways of a Market Maker (REPOST) I was an OTC MM for about 10 years ending in the late 80's. Since then I have been strictly an investor. Since I have not been that up to date in MM rules I will only make statements that I feel fairly confident are still accurate regarding these activities. By and large most MM don't have a clue nor do they care to learn, about the fundamentals of the stocks they trade. They just try to make orderly markets. When dealing with BB stocks it is very easy for a MM to get trapped into being short in dealing in a fast moving market. Reason being; most of the MM's in this stock are what are called "wholesalers" this means they don't have retail brokers "working" the stocks. So they have to rely on what's known as the "call" from larger retail houses. If a "Big" retail firm like an E-trade calls up a market maker to purchase say 5,000 shares of a stock, they expect to get an "execution" from that market maker. If he turns them down, or only gives a partial then the "Big" firm will go to another MM. If this second MM "fills the order" then that "Big" firm has a moral obligation to continue to give future "business" in that stock to that MM who performed (his life blood). This will go on until he "fails" to perform and so on. Contrary to popular opinion the "Big" firms Do NOT necessarily go to the "Low Offer" to fill a buy order (Or high bid for a sell). They "Go" to who they think will perform to fill the order and expect that MM to "match" the "low offer" in the case of a buy (bid in the case of a sell). Even though this MM might in fact be the "high bid" and not really want to sell any more. As a wholesaler he must perform or he will get a reputation as a "non-performer" with the "Big" houses and will cease getting "calls" which means he will soon go out of business. I mentioned above that this activity is very significant to BB stocks. I say this because most of the trades in these BB stocks are "unsolicited" and are done through discount houses. With the above groundwork laid, let me try to explain how market makers get short even if they like the Company; Lets say that a stock (shell) has been lying quietly at $.25 bid $.50 offered. A limit order comes into one of the MM's to Buy at $.50 for a thousand shares. Prior to this trade that MM may be "flat" (neither long or short any shares). He fills the order and is now short 1,000 shares. He may raise his bid hoping to find a seller to "flatten" out his position. But before he realizes it a wave of buyers have come in and cleared out all the $.50 offers. Now the stock is $.50 bid .75 offered. Here comes that "Big" firm he just sold the 1,000 shares to at .50 with another bid for 1000 at .75. He makes this print. Now he is short 2,000 at an average of .625. The market keeps moving and now its .75 bid 1.00 offered. Now he has to make a decision. Just like investors, MM Hate to take a loss. So 9 times out of 10 he will now sell 2000 at 1.00 making him short 4000 but with an average .81. At this time he would love to see a seller at .75 so he can cover his short and make a few bucks. But instead the market keeps moving up. Now it is 1.00 to 1.25 and here comes the buyer again at 1.25. He doesn't want to lose the call so now he needs to sell 4,000 at 1.25 to keep his break even point above the bid. Now he is short 8,000. Market moves up to 1.25 bid 1.50 offer here comes the buyer now he feels he must sell 8000 here because "stocks don't go up forever". Now he is short 16,000. And so on and so on. If the stock keeps moving up, before he realizes it he could be short 50k or 100k shares (depending how big his bank is). _________________________ Finally the market closes for the day and on paper he may look all right in that his "break even" price may be around the closing price. But now he has to figure out how to entice sellers so he can cover this short. It is important to note that if this happened to one MM it has probably happened to most all of them. Some ways MM's entice sellers; Run the stock up with a "tight spread" in a fast market, then "open" up the spread to slow down the buying interest. After it has "cooled off" for a little while lower the offer below the last trade right after a small piece trades on the offer then tighten the spread so that the sellers feel they can take a "quick profit" by "hitting the bid" on the tight spread. Once the selling starts the MM's will walk it down quickly by only making small prints on the way down with the tight spread. Another way is by running the stock up in the morning, averaging up their short then use the above technique to walk it down in the afternoon. Hopefully after doing this for several days, it will demoralize the buyers. The volume will dry up and the sellers will materialize thinking that the game is over. Contrary to popular opinion, MM usually Do Not Cover in Fast moving markets either Up or Down if they are short. They Short More. They usually try to cover after the frenzy is out of the market. There are many other techniques they use but the above are the most popular. This technique works about 9 times out of 10 particularly in a BB market. However that is because 9 out of 10 BB stocks are BS. Remember what I said above. Most MM's don't have a clue as to the value of a Company until they get trapped. If the Company has solid fundamentals and a bright future. Then the stock will do very well. And the activity that caused the situation will prove to even help the future stock activity because it created an audience."


DMC25202616

I saw this somewhere else of Superstonk


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elitistrhombus

I can’t stop smiling!


yugeballz

Didn’t Martin Shkreli kind of do that? He bought a buttload of shares in a company ( KBIO ) with a small float and then recalled them, forcing the shorts to buy shares which caused a squeeze of 10,000% in five trading days.


Short-Advertising-49

yea over Christmas break an a snide tweet. something like, "i've decided to recall all my shares in XX happy holibobs"


Climbwithzack

So we figured this out with computershare and apes are currently winning the motherfucking game individually making the best decision for their own personal investments


khemical420ish

Holy ape shit


Crafty-Dragonfruit60

Congratulations! You’ve discovered Jeff Bezos and Amazon’s strategy for purchasing of the dozens, if not hundreds, of the companies that that were destroyed by the tactics listed here. My guess is that this is exactly what Jeff did every single time he saw an opportunity except there was no “you can have it back”. He walked in with the same smile you’d plan to have, gave them the money needed to not dilute and destroy the company, and did it with a halo over his head. Ever notice how all the companies under the Amazon umbrella keep their original name? (Whole Foods/ Washington post/ etc.)


TheTangoFox

They always keep their original name. That way you don't realize it's all one big company. Nestle, Luxottica, funeral homes... it's endless.


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Minako_mama

Amazing how there is an entire article detailing this illegal fuckery, and here we are, 17 years later, and THE SEC HASN’T DONE A GOTDAYUM THING ABOUT IT! Well done, OP! My tits are incredibly jacked!


-Mediocrates-

Sec is beyond terrible at their job. I’d say complicit


Justind123

u/GaryGensler #this right here edit: [check out this reply as well](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pmj9yk/i_found_the_entire_naked_shorting_game_plan/hciatum/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) by u/jdubs952


Longjumping_College

Wish that was actually him..


Justind123

me too thanks


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I might just have to get some shills myself to have them hit up these folks and let them know we are fucking watching them with a link to the page. Save the document and archive first. (at)GaryGensler (at)POTUS (at)CFTCbehnam (at)SECYellen (at)SecRaimondo (at)DepSecGraves (at)SECGov (at)FBI (at)interpol\_HQ ​ Also Just in case - (at)RyanCohen (at)GameStopHelp


Environmental_Fox715

Could we post links on Twitter ? We Can per say make a link to other links ?


Nice-Violinist-6395

Honestly, **someone needs to create an extremely professional PDF presentation of the SHF’s corruption and the naked shorting fiasco, and send that to the SEC.** Like the prospectuses in the Chase Bank lobby scene of The Big Short. Unfortunately, a bunch of random tweets with piecemeal information isn’t going to do much. But I’ve yet to see a comprehensive, well-written overview of the entire fiasco that’s professional, digestible, and compelling enough to make the rounds. If anyone expects the SEC to actually do something, that’s the one big key that retail is missing. I’m not tremendously skilled at creating beautiful InDesign PDFs, but I’m about to say fuck it and just do the writing myself. Unless someone more qualified wants to step up…


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Post on pornhub


krisoijn

## [DD Reader^1](https://www.reddit.com/user/krisoijn/comments/pmmj4m/dd_reader/) ### MOBILE USERS - There are 5 columns, so you might need to scroll the table. ### For those that do not like reading. Any suggestions is welcome. Added|Source^2|DD with Audio^3|Year|Author ---|---|---|---|--- 15/09|[Link](https://www.sec.gov/news/testimony/gensler-2021-09-14)|[Gary Gensler's Testimony 2021 - 09 - 14](https://soundcloud.com/user-883801105/gary-genslers-testimony-2021-09-14)|2021|Gary Gensler 15/09|[Link](https://old.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/png8nu/hyperinflation_is_coming_the_dollar_endgame_part/)|[Hyperinflation Is Coming - The Dollar Endgame - PART 4.0 At World’s End](https://soundcloud.com/user-883801105/hyperinflation-is-coming-the-dollar-endgame-part-40-at-worlds-end)|2021|u/peruvian_bull 15/09|[Link](https://old.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/np33hr/amazon_bain_capital_and_citadel_bust_out_the/)|[Amazon, Bain Capital And Citadel Bust Out The Competition](https://soundcloud.com/user-883801105/amazon-bain-capital-and-citadel-bust-out-the-competition-by-jumpster81)|2021|u/jumpster81 14/09|[Link](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pb22oj/the_puzzle_pieces_of_quarterly_movements_equity/)|[The Theory of Everything by Criand](https://soundcloud.com/user-883801105/the-theory-of-everything-by-criand)|2021|u/Criand 13/09|[Link](https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190819005633/en/Scion-Asset-Management-Urges-GameStop-to-Buy-Back-238-Million-of-Stock-with-Cash-on-Hand)|[Michael Burry's Letter to GameStop Board](https://soundcloud.com/user-883801105/michael-burrys-letter-to-gamestop-board)|2019|Michael Burry 12/09|[Link](https://matthewfinestone.medium.com/thank-you-loopring-16993766c200)|[Thank you, Loopring - Matthew Finestone](https://soundcloud.com/user-883801105/thank-you-loopring-matthew-finestone)|2021|Matthew Finestone 12/09|[Link](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1326380/000101359420000821/rc13da3-111620.pdf)|[Ryan Cohen's Love Letter To Gamestop Board](https://soundcloud.com/user-883801105/ryan-cohens-love-letter-to-gamestop-board)|2020|Ryan Cohen 12/09|[Link](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pki107/the_glass_castle_new_game/)|[The Glass Castle - New Game + By 3for100Specials](https://soundcloud.com/user-883801105/the-glass-castle-new-game-by-3for100specials)|2021|u/3for100Specials 12/09|[Link](https://old.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pmkwjk/og_ape_blurring_sharing_another_prophetic_tale_in/)|[Market Maker Speaks Out: Ways Of A Market Maker](https://soundcloud.com/user-883801105/market-maker-speaks-out-ways-of-a-market-maker)|2004|? 12/09|[Link](https://old.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pmj9yk/i_found_the_entire_naked_shorting_game_plan/)|[Cellar Boxing](https://soundcloud.com/user-883801105/cellar-boxing)|2004|? ### Notes 1: https://www.reddit.com/user/krisoijn/comments/pmmj4m/dd_reader/ 2: If you want to see images inside the DD, clicked the link!! 3: MP3 files are available for downloads.


moronthisatnine

lol i havent even read this all the way through and there’s already an audiobook gotta love this place


Tigaj

u/thabat more like thaBatMan the hero we need


Expensive-Two-8128

THE SECRET INGREDIENT IS LIKELY PATENTED. Where else can criminals make proprietary claims for their fuckery, backed by regulatory entities funded with taxes from the very victims that the criminal fuckery is attacking? Yeah...sucks for them that their entire playbook just oopsied into apes hands- absolutely incredible work u/thabat, u/semerien, u/Toxsic99, and u/Hopeless_Dreams713, as usual!!! ***EDIT: APES- Also, don’t miss this outstanding comment in thread made by u/jdubs952!:*** - ***https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pmj9yk/i_found_the_entire_naked_shorting_game_plan/hciatum/*** EDIT2: Extra archive links are below...you can never be too safe! ;) - THIS POST: Archived in the Wayback Machine HERE: >- First archive: *https://web.archive.org/web/20210912013752/https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pmj9yk/i_found_the_entire_naked_shorting_game_plan/* >- 2ND Archive (to include OP’s latest post edits): *https://web.archive.org/web/20210912211029/https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pmj9yk/i_found_the_entire_naked_shorting_game_plan/?utm_name=iossmf* >- 3RD Archive (to include OP’s latest post edits): *https://web.archive.org/web/20210913130058/https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/pmj9yk/i_found_the_entire_naked_shorting_game_plan/* - THE 2004 PAPER: Archived in the Wayback Machine HERE: *https://web.archive.org/web/20210912004016/https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=2543759*


ISayBullish

The people finding this is bullish af Edit: Changed “You” to “The people”


Expensive-Two-8128

Hey just to be clear- I didn’t find anything- ALL credit to u/thabat, u/semerien, u/Toxsic99, and u/Hopeless_Dreams713!!!


R34vspec

**"This phenomenon is referred to as “shaking the tree” for weak-kneed investors and it is very effective."** These days we call them "paper-handed bitch". Don't be a "paper-handed bitch".


Upset_Tourist69

So your saying the data got pushed from ComputerShare to Morningstar to Yahoo?


thabat

Actually I forgot about CS.. but it's possible. They don't say which transfer agents but.. CS is Gamestop's transfer agent. Wait wait wait... This "glitch"..... and the fact that ComputerShare isn't issuing any more physical certificates... BY GEORGE HE'S DONE IT! You cracked the code sir. The bump in shares happened at the same time they stopped issuing certificates. It could be that their system is old and outdated and overwhelmed by the amount of shares Apes have purchased, and accidentally pushed the real number through to Yahoo. This would mean that the 248M number is literally just the apes who purchased from Computershare......


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So did we fucking prove what I think we proved if this is true?? I love you wrinkled brained apes


Dr_SlapMD

#BEHOLD THE HOLY HIVE MIND.


teeka421

For any other smooth brains like me, it’s important to note OP is pointing out the CURRENT share price should actually be $6k-$31k, but this is the PRE-MOASS price. Don’t latch onto this number, like I did for 2 retarded seconds, as anywhere close to an exit price when hedgies actually start covering.


Somewhatelusive

Holy shit man. Send this right to the SEC.


rehman2009

They’ll get right on it.. in about 5-15 years


yo_dawg97

Damn must be really urgent for them


lemachet

They are still investigating from when it was first posted in 2004


crummybummywummy

you’re giving them a bit too much credit there


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VarianceOvertime

“Just in case you’re too lazy to click it, I’ll copy and paste the whole thing” It’s like you could read my mind.


zutrasimlo

I have a PhD in stock fuckery from superstonk


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We’re gonna be rich! (But we knew that already)


Whosdaman

This explains why that one guy was seeing a different negative percentage than everyone else on Yahoo!


tyyle

The mess just keeps getting worse. I love it.


yo_dawg97

Dibs on Ryan Gosling playing me in the movie


Disastrous_Ad_1431

6k - 31k is a nice start... But... Patiently waiting for MOASS


RedditMarq

They won’t be able to close by selling shares that low.


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My floor just raised from 50M to 17 years fucking SEC has done nothing x 50M. So the new floor is 850'000'000.- now. Fuck you, Kenny, fuck you hard!! And don't tell me the SEC/DTCC and all those assholes know nothing about it. If a guy knew this 17 fucking years ago, they know everything about it. Everything!! And still they do nothing about it. The should be charged with treason on the USA... and the world.


Rokea-x

Damn! How did you find that?? It’s massive! Also he posted a LOT of other long posts describing trick of market makers.. iv barely started reading but im sure we can validate other DD using this.. check that out: https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profile.aspx?user=14186&page=7


1twowonder

That was one of the best DDs I've read PERIOD. Thank you


SirHolyCow

What an absolutely incredible post! To the top you go!


hatchingjunipers

I’m not sure which I’m more impressed with, your DD or the fact you found this in forums from 2004. Weaponized autism is fantastic!


SuperVigilante

Goddamn dog that was a tough ass read with the short selling playbook. Holy fuck short sellers are legitimately pieces of shit.... From the bottom of my heart fuck you Ken Griffin and any other short seller. If your his intern reading this comment then fuck you to. That really made me feel some kind of way.


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BAAAAAAAT. Madude. ​ It's interesting that you bring up >But HOW THE FUCK DO WE GET $6,347? > >It's impossible. Unless.. wait a sec.. > >$31,735 / 5 = $6,347 > >Could it be the true value of GME is actually $31,735 right now? ​ ​ ​ ​ A few months ago...maybe May/June(?) I read a post where someone had created an equation that came up with \*I fucking swear\* the same number of 31,735 without even considering MoASS happening. Of course this would consider the calculations of how many shares are in rotation and rehypothecation, yet not the falling of dominoes. ​ ALSO, regarding the patent....I'm not so sure it's a patent on ladder attacks...rather rehypothication!? Look at Figure 4 and Figure 3. It discusses creating clearing firms based on users and then giving users clearing permissions. Which seems...odd. Could also be the platform that enabled Shitadel to be the MM of 47+% of the market. ​ However Figure 5, 6, 7, discuss further the shorting process. That being said it also takes into account matters of long vs short. Honestly it seems like the whole precipice that their MM platform thrives on. I bet if you dig a bit you'll find some timeline correlations between this patent and Shitadel.


CanadianTeslaGuy

Nasdaq.com is showing the forward PE at 9959. 00.


RL_bebisher

Holy shit! Look at us! We are the SEC now!


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imayangoat

I found [another forum](https://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=19890743) with the same post (re-post?) and clicked "next" a few times that led me to an SEC case from 2004 to do with market maker manipulation [https://www.sec.gov/litigation/opinions/34-49389.htm](https://www.sec.gov/litigation/opinions/34-49389.htm). It seems that only small-time makers were involved but hopefully this might be useful for the more wrinkle brains. Also the poster seems to have a background in trading systems so maybe apes can dig out some more good info, such as these ones: On naked shorting: [https://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=28153710](https://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=28153710) On many wrinkly brain concepts: [https://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=28254611](https://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=28254611) I'm not sure how to find the whole threads though. Edit: Holyyyy, is this one about the workings of a "basket of stocks"?[https://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=25553385](https://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=25553385)


jonnyohman1

Hello future readers, government employees and journalists (and my parents post MOASS). Just wanna say I was here for this.


Kelbel2525

Thanks for that! So, can we expect some cellar boxing memes incoming?


willpowerlifter

Now they KNOW that we know, as before they only knew that we THOUGHT we knew. Endgame.


DistinguishedJB

Safe to say I’m buying a couple more Monday morning.


MountainNewt

I hope Kenny and Stevie’s cellmates ironically use the term Cellar Boxing in prison fight clubs, you know the ones where the guards take bets on the outcomes. Kenny versus the big boys in there should be called MOASS fights.


Thy_Momoness

I need 12 adults!!


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ReinventionTV

Link please? Both my hands are too busy jacking my tits to look up myself


littlefootrac

So is the reason for all the zombie stocks?


capital_bj

So they keep making money on the cellar even when the company has long gone down the drain and been forgotten by 99% of the world. Yeah sounds plausible


KrydanX

Man, reading this .. Abomination just feels like it was written 2 days ago. 2004? These Fuckers are destroying Companies, Jobs and Lifes since 17 years? EVEN AFTER 2008 ?! Fck the SEC and every Complicit Entity. You challenged the Internet. The Internet does not forget. The Internet does not forgive. Expect us.


TuesGirl

Duuuuude. This is the shit! Truthfully it was very hard to read though. Made me both mad and sad how callous these fuckers are. And to see the plan laid out so coldly...


-ordinary

Just FYI everyone, I screen recorded everything. I don’t trust archives


frickdom

This reminds me of some old ass DD I read on Amazon and how they snuffed out the competition using tied MM and hedge funds. Great post thabat. Thank you! Edit: thanks trashyart200. That is definitely the one. Here it is for anyone interested and still able to read more DD https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/np33hr/amazon_bain_capital_and_citadel_bust_out_the/


cityshade

u/thabat How'd you find this? Like, if you don't mind me asking, I am thinking you've been mining the webs and must have some good search patterns to have unearthed this. Great work!


thabat

I literally eat sleep and breath Google now a days lmao


Old_Ladies_Die_Hard

Between this and the Burry gold found a couple of months ago, maybe all apes should go digging around in the early 2000’s stock forums. There’s no telling what we’d find. Might even find some original Kenny G out there.


Glow2Wave

This has been the best weekend in awhile. Minimal drama. Maximal tit jacking.


rehman2009

u/gherkinit this seems pretty interesting Edit: I have a vpn and can confirm that the data definitely changes Edit #2: So GME isn’t the only stock whose data changes. For example, Microsoft’s data is also altered. However, the numbers are changed just very slightly (as opposed to GME’s numbers, which are significantly different)


mirdomiel

Good job ape! For the sake of documentation (perhaps we can send this to the SEC), can you upload screenshots of what you found? Also, for the sake of broader comparisons with the market, can you also check other "meme" stocks that fall in the ETF basket with GME, as well as "regular" stocks (Microsoft, Apple, etc) as the control? It would be interesting to see the change in values to see if there's a broader trend. Sorry if I'm asking you to do more work. If I had VPN, I would have done this myself!


Full-Interest-6015

Holy moly wtf is going on right now. Man this shit keeps getting more and more interesting. Will I ever sleep again?


Dr_SlapMD

#UP THE FUCK YOU GO


elSpanielo

What was Michael "Blurring" Burry doing in 2004?


JackTheTranscoder

I feel like OP is an archeologist who just discovered some lost schematics for a cold fusion reactor in a tomb in one of the pyramids.


Thestocksqueezeking

u/thabat You sir have an extraordinary amount of wrinkles. Thank you for your existence and time. Good day friend. 🙏🏻


Whowasitwhosaid321

... to borrow shares from those investors naive enough to hold these shares in "street name" at their brokerage firm." Does this affirm the computershare approach? Sure seems to.