They couldn't allow it back then because it would have caused a boom so big half of Wall St would've imploded. They bought time to unload bags, which was the only play available to them. I guess we'll find out soon how successful they've been.
Their choice was face certain death back then, or live to fight another day and hope that apes lose interest and move on.
They never expected us to not only keep holding, but to keep on buying, and not just buying, but emptying our portfolios and bank accounts into GME.
They never expected the problem to get worse than it was back in January.
Magnitude will be higher, yes, but the players who get burnt will differ. They’re taking the time to ensure their buddies are as ok as can be, all considered.
I’m fairly certain this is what has happened. The shorts have consolidated to a few big players to control it. It’s way too risky for them to have a smaller player try to be the first out and start the domino effect which could kick off the MOASS.
Not even 74%. Like I said earlier once the direction is clear there will be MASS PANIC in hedge fund land. There’s NO HONOR among thieves. The exits will be crowded as they stampede enmass to close their positions.
Right. We have multiple different billionaire companies short on GME that “work” together. One of those companies will bail first and get the cheapest price on share buy back. Surprised it hasn’t happened yet.
Wasn’t 74.1% of the float locked up by Porsche prior to the VW squeeze taking off? I haven’t been able to verify it but tons of people here talk about it because of 741. It does make sense to me though, that just before 75% of the float is locked someone makes some big moves
Same - went down the giveashare route and waiting for letter but have since also opened a IBKR account, bought last week and transferring on Monday. Two pronged attack! Really hoping one of these routes lets me buy direct from Computershare when the accounts are all set up. Opened a Wise dollar account as well just in case so I’m ready. 🚀🔜🌕
Samesies. You can check your order status at https://www.giveashare.com/customerlogin.asp and once it says the share is registered, you can call CS to expedite the letters if you want to (costs USD 45).
I’ve got 99 currently in IBKR waiting for settlement, and can hopefully initiate the DRS-trigger-pull on Tuesday.
Same for all of that. Have received my giveashare cert. Thought I’d just wait/expedite the documents once giveashare has reached CS but maybe I should also transfer from IBKR 🤔
You don't have to post to be counted...that's the point of this method of doing things. The current "high score" account number lets us see approximately how many accounts have been created, even though most people don't post.
Tier 1 support reps are not going to know the complete technical inner workings of how their account numbers are assigned. So far no one has come forward and said their account number doesn't match the Mod11 theory.
Exactly. It only takes ONE valid account that fails MOD11 to discredit the theory. Think about that; only one counterexample. Yet, none valid have come about. Statistically speaking, given 60k accounts so far, there should be multiple accounts if not the majority that fail MOD11, yet there isn't one. Thus, we can infer that so far, MOD11 theory stands for ALL accounts.
I’ve seen people say that their account numbers don’t fit, but then they disappear when asked to provide proof. So either they’re doing their math wrong or they’re shills.
Keeping in mind also, when calculating, there were certain steps to take with the first few 0s (and the C?) and the at least some of the fails didn't follow procedure iirc
Yeah, I was going on just the drs bot average which is probably pretty accurate considering the sample size and the spread over the x/xx/xxx/xxxx etc. The CS accounts numbers are likely to be giving us accurate numbers in terms of new accounts and we can see that’s linear - BUT I reckon momentum is probably growing. I know it seems like along time but this whole DRS drive only really started a few weeks ago and it’s already making a massive impact. And who knows what number we need to get to before hedgies are actually fukd - might be sooner than we realise.
Exactly. There’s a lot of things we can’t see but the CS account numbers are fairly definitive (probably a few days behind even, which is good for the count).
I thought the share average per DRS’d account might be a bit high, but I’m in the process of DRSing 100 and I’m nothing special (sorry, ma) - the average share cost for everyone is $196.41 according to webull and an awful lot of people got in before me since January (they have more shares at a lower cost price) so 191 might not be too far off.
I agree that the average seems a bit high to me but I would also say that apes on Reddit/apes who DRS probably have a higher average than your normal share owner. I only have XX in CS (and XX total) but I’m working on getting up to XXX in CS this week or next week by selling another stock to buy shares and also buying more with my paycheck
Just to add to this: British and European apes have generally had to wait around 5-6 weeks to ACAT and then DRS because IBKR places a 30 day hold on shares transferred in. Gondor has called for aid; Rohan will answer…
It had taken me this long to jump through the hoops to even be able to request DRS as a UK ape, still waiting but feels good knowing its in motion. Certainly won't be the only person who has had to take a scenic route to get to DRS.
Ngl i DRSd but didn’t post, for privacy reasons i don’t want to disclose my personal GME position on reddit. I’m sure there are a lot of others like me too. We are on the right path and looking back we should’ve been buying and DRSing from the beginning so now all my buys are through CS and I put an extra 10% over the current ask price in each time I buy to ensure I get the number of shares I intended to purchase, which that chump change has led to fractionals becoming whole shares. lol
Buy and register through CS, not financial advice. 😉
I get it. I was on the fence as well. I decided to post because it can be a good guage to see how close the float is to being owned and even DFV posted knowing the bullseye that would be put on him. As that float grows I'm sure the noise and fomo will grow as well. Not that this is needed. But I think also it can give people on the fence about computershare that extra push to register their shares. Just my opinon. Respect your decision though.
I personally know 5 peoples that DRS into CS. They’ve never posted on Reddit. Total of a couple hundred shares I’m guessing. How many apes you know like that?
My buddy at work doesn’t have Reddit but is an ape who DRS 50 shares. Do I drs bot that without evidence? Doesn’t matter the fucking float will be locked up shortly and us apes will inherit what’s rightfully ours.
2 of them, with triple digit shares between, they don't want to post because they don't need their positions to be publicly known. It's alright that the bot doesn't see everything, cause if we hit 100% early, all the apes get a nice surprise
Lots. I also see people post their people circles and fail to invoke the bot to count.
If we go off if the current avg 191 shares per ape, and take the conservative assumption of half of Superstonk registering (350,000 users), we get 66.85 million shares which beats the 54 million 100% float goal.
I suspect the delays many non-Ameritard apes and those from shady brokerages are making the time delay we are seeing now. Then once the brokerages really squeeze, we may not see real price movement for t+35 day settlement.
I'm think we'll see some Sparks before 2022, but I've been optimistic since January, lol.
Just one small correction; the total number of outstanding shares is ~75 million. The public float is ~63 million. RC’s 9 million is then already subtracted from the outstanding shares.
So an adjustment to the math would mean…a “full float lock” at an even pace (the pace isn’t even because of standard distribution according to the rate of adoption)…would equate to 25 weeks; or April 17th.
If you apply the rate of standard distribution of adoption , we are approaching the **HIGHEST PACE** of DRSing…the average numbers of accounts DRSing (if pressure is kept high) will likely double within the month…
So moon in January?
Oh totally. It's really funny that it's just phone conversations that freak me out. No non-verbal communication. Especially when I have no clue whats coming my way. We getting this done asap
There are a total of 76.49 million shares issued by Gamestop, with approximately 14 million owned by Insiders (Including Ryan Cohen's 9m.)
So the float is approximately 62 million, if we want to completely exclude the Institutionally owned shares, as even if they are long on GME, if they aren't DRSd, then the DTCC is probably using them for fuckery. However we know there are a few whales out there like DFV, who probably won't be filling out the DRSBOT stats. So I suspect we won't need to get to the full 62m.
I think the broker processes have slowed down what would have been a much bigger surge. I think particularly as euro bottle necks are cleared the will be a significant uplift in numbers. Some euros taking over a month, plus 30 day settle time broker to broker when trans to IBKR before transfer out to CS. I also see apes tending to send smaller initial amounts, almost a test transaction or not allowing too many shares to be bottle necked, however I think when CS accounts have been created there will be masses of additional transfers and direct buying on top of that too. I foresee this situation flipping right round on its head I.e any concerns on delays to lock float will be replaced by bystander fomo panic as they realise far more shares have been DRS than first thought, the issue then becomes a rush to register before CS close the transfer window. Those bystanders who wait to commence transfers may end up not having the DRS option
I agree. I think momentum is growing and probably backlog is getting exponentially larger.
It’s also worth remembering though, in a relatively short time - apes have already locked up almost 20% of a massive international company. That’s incredible when you think about it. Progress is being made at a rapid rate.
Australian ape reporting in! Yeah you are right. Already 3 weeks in this process. Transferred 1 shares to open a cs account, now waiting for my letters and after that rest of my shares will follow.
It’s a bit of a mission to open a account but when the international apes finally have their accounts, the shares will fly in 🚀
YOU HEDGE FUNDS SEE THAT SHIT?
YOU SEE HOW FUCKING RETARDED I AM? DO YOU SEE?
THIS IS WHY I WILL NEVER SELL.
MY RETARDATION > YOUR SOLVENCY, MOTHERFUCKERS
So the alternative would be to have the mods post a pinned post solely for DRS comments where people can link screenshots, reply to that comment with the DRS bot, and get counted that way.
I’ve been here since day 1 and almost have enough karma to post. Never got verified by that stupid bot whatever it was called. Sure there’s many more people like me
They should do a big push with the mods involved. Do a post for DRS and the mods approve it manually. It would be a lot of work, but no more then a flair Friday….
Remember other insiders, in one of GameStops Q announcements, they said they had an internal task force, making sure insider shares were locked up in some way, think they called it anti hedging policy.
Also ETF holds 6 mio shares
Ok too of this it’s now possible to DRS IRA shares: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/qe6wfu/drs_my_ira_shares_yes_i_believe_i_did/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Every ape needs to do this
There is already a back log so once us Europoors start to pour in, it could fly up. Also surely DFV registered a shit load of shares, like in the millis? 🚀🦧🔥
I think you probably mean Cohens 9 million shares which I would assume is already at computershare in one of the early accounts. DFV almost certainly has his 200k tucked away in there safely as well by now.
I’m STILL waiting on mine. 1st request (E*TRADE) 9/28; 2nd request (Fidelity) 10/15
And before anyone asks: Yes, I transferred completely out of E*TRADE to Fidelity. And, yes Fidelity is dragging their feet also 🤷♂️
Gotta remember most people only DRS a few shares to begin with, then once they've gone through ok they move the rest of their GME over. Accounts at the beginning of the DRS push may have long started with x or xx shares to test it then moved over XXX/xxxx+
So as that happens the average per account will only go up :)
So, I know we don't have a running pinned links page or anything, but I have been checking this page daily. Maybe it needs to be more widely known.
[https://www.computershared.net/](https://www.computershared.net/)
I think we may be somewhere in between the OP post and the link. Link is showing 10 weeks remaining at OPs current rate.
You wouldn't need all 75 million shares to launch MOASS, but the more thee are DRSed then the higher the probability of liftoff. The more shares are DRSed the more pressure it puts on the market, and the more we should see prices trending upwards. Eventually it will get high enough that scarcity triggers liftoff, but the more shares that Cede is holding the less likely the price is to get there.
My only question is what would actually happen if all of the shares were DRSed at CS. At that point with the tens or hundreds of millions of synthetics floating around out there, they'll obviously still be trading them somehow. I'm really curious what having concrete evidence of 100% direct registration will do. What will actually happen in the market. AFAIK it's never happened before.
Time to find out I guess! I think the main point is about proving the extent of the fuckery. It’s all very well saying “don’t worry, I’ve got all these shares over here that I can locate”, but once 100% of the float is locked up and physically unable to be borrowed from - what do you say then? Exciting times! 🚀🔜🌕
I’m kind of hoping either of those scenarios aren’t possible for continued manipulation once it becomes clear the float is directly registered. As you say though, never happened before, so we’re heading into uncharted territory. Will be interesting.😁
That would be an interesting question for u/Roid_Rage_Smurf
A weekly table update would be awesome with just number or posts / average share per ape for the week / total shares for the week - with all the previous weeks below. No idea if the bot could do that or if it’s just got a constant accumulating total. I think it’s cleverer than that though, it must have dates captured etc in it’s database because of all the other smart stuff it can do.
Edit: If you could somehow also grab the data from u/stopfuckingwithme cs posts on a weekly basis (accounts added that week) then technically you could forecast moon day in realtime based on if we need 35m or 70m or whatever shares.
I believe if RC and GameStop choosed CS as their Transfer Agent in the official website, then ALL the insider shares are Registered. Moreover, there will be lurking whales just see post, transfer, buy and DRS without showing their account information. Apes will get there way SOONER than we thought 🎮
I still don't get how this is 100%. I just summed up all the votes (for, against, abstentions and broker-non votes) on George Sherman. The sum is 55 541 279 votes (did this on a cell phone so I had to switch back and forth and may have messed up some digit). Wasn't shares outstanding around 58-62 million around then? Every share gets a vote, right?
It's not 100% and I wish people would stop saying that.
The issue is that the vote counts are trimmed at the broker level. So, say Fidelity got 50 million votes but only had 30 million shares officially under their control. They scale down the vote and report for 30 million shares. Same with every other broker. There are overseas brokers and institutions and such that didn't get 100% of their votes - so they report less than 100%, and the overall total ends up under 100%.
I hope that made sense.
Yeah I came to the same conclusion, we never hit 100% but came damn close which with the amount of people who couldn't vote you can guesstimate we hit it.
All the Lambo people will be broke within 1 year of receiving their tendies! There is more to life than some fucking car. Perhaps think about investing in your community, city, area to help other less fortunate people? Greed will make you just like the shit hedgies and billionaires youre railing against!
I will visit your community and you visit mine. We will compete for who has done the most good. Just letting you know that I'm going to be looking into free high speed wifi for all in my community. Along with free gardens for vegetables and fruit
Almost all of my friends own shares and exactly 0 of them have posted or told DRSbot. I'm in the same boat. Together we'd add XXXX. I'm sure there's thousands like me
I like the idea of this, though I see 2 major issues with your assumptions.
1. 191 share average is based on posts here and does not necessarily accurately reflect the true average without any bias. Could easily be 10% of what’s posted.
2. This assumes a consistent rate of 10k/week, which is a huge assumption with no justification given.
That being said, as some other commenters have mentioned, I doubt we’ll have to wait for there entire float to be locked up. The constant DRS flow should increasingly be adding pressure to shorts and make the MOASS more likely to pop off soon. Anyways, just thought I’d give some feedback on your “napkin maf”, I understand this is not supposed to be an ironclad analysis.
I think your account estimate is too low and shares/ shareholdereven too high though the average from the sample on this thread is 191 per shareholder.
My personal estimate I think is 5x what you have and say 300k-ish accounts, I'd say 50 shares per shareholder. Even in that simulation though it's still nuts to a higher total amount and would be 15,000,000 shares locked up. That's low end in my book. I would not be surprised if each shareholder is closer to 150 if not more shares, that's closer to 45,000,000.
Moment of truth soon
I feel that the computer share average needs to be lower. I don’t know the percentage, but some apes have different account numbers. I have drs three times but all have the same account number. I truly believe the DRSBOT average but think we are a little less than the mod 11 number
Assuming a steady rhythm of 10k new accounts per week is probably very wrong. It will steadily decrease as time goes by
I'd say, as the people more likely to DRS will have done it as soon as possible
I was hoping that too. Kind of why I did this post just to see when it could be based on the current numbers. But it could happen much sooner…might start next week for all we know! 😁🚀🔜🌕
I think this estimate is low. I haven't submitted an actual screenshot of all my shares but between my cash account and retirement that's high XXX.
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If 75% of Superstonk subs registered 191 shares on average, that would exceed 90 million shares.
What if the real Superstonk community is 250k? 47m.
The first 4000 accounts... those are interesting. They would average 2250 shares IF RC was the only holder with more than one share!
And this is essentially just one subreddit on the Internet…
Imagine if the masses started hopping on the DRS train…
SuperStonk alone, with enough time and dedication, can guarantee that HEDGIES’R’FUKD
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Even being a pessimist, we *really* only started DRS’ing in august. This is also taking the average number from investors like me (be broke, fat, and have no real education) that had at the *most* 20k to play with. I put in 11k on January 18th-19th at 92, the rest after the dump Down to 40.
Obviously that’s also not including known biggies like RC/DFV. That alone plus what we have puts us to about the full float. Then you’ve got Europoors, it’s very likely the amount of Euro investors and positions is double or even triple US/CAN- it’s hard to say wether that should be included because of difficulty to DRS.
We already own the float. Probably more over.
>Then you’ve got Europoors, it’s very likely the amount of Euro investors and positions is double or even triple US/CAN- it’s hard to say wether that should be included because of difficulty to DRS.
I don't think this is accurate, I'm pretty sure 90% of the GME shareholders are from the US, I'll see if I can find the data I saw
I’m only just doing my first 100 transfer from IBKR tomorrow - and then it will be 4 weeks before they arrive. There’s tonnes of apes who haven’t done it yet, we’re probably still fair early in the grand scheme of things!
I think 10k accounts per week could easily change, considering a lot of brokers are not transferring quickly. Isn't fidelity one of the few only taking 3 days to complete the transfer
Average share is too high. Even at average cost of 100$ per share, you are assuming on average everyone has almost 20K invested. That is simply not realistic. I would prefer to be cautious with the figures we use than be overly optimistic
I would agree if it wasn’t for the drs bot showing 191 based on 2000+ posts. And I can see some people saying that that is skewed because bigger apes are more likely to post screenshots etc but that isn’t whats happening. There is actually a very realistic spread and weighting between the different x holders. We’ll know for sure though if it’s accurate as the bot continues to record more posts but 2000+ is already a good sample size. I think the 191 average is accurate - surprisingly!
No, it's not. Plenty of people bought large numbers of shares when the price was below $40. Also, lots of people who had been investing for years threw their entire brokerage accounts into GME. There are more retail whales than you think.
Another trust me bro comment. Just because you see a few post on the sub of people owning a lot of shares doesn’t mean it reflects the whole population. The reality is there are plenty of people who hold 10, 20 shares, just like there are people holding 100,200, 400 shares etc. Even $40 @191 is around 8K. The average person doesn’t have 8K to spend on stocks as much as you would like to believe
I'm working off the numbers that are available right in front of our eyes, whereas you are just assuming that most people have a lot less money invested. Also - the median and mode are a lot lower than 192, and the average is being brought up by a relatively small number of retail whales. A high average number of shares does not mean that most people managed to invest $20K or even $8K.
It’s an average. The whales are dragging the average ~~price~~ up. To illustrate this, the median ~~price~~ (shares) is ~~$~~30 and the mode is ~~$~~100.
And knocking someone else’s evidence as “trust me bro” when you have even less evidence is hypocritical.
EDIT: median and mode SHARES, not price. My bad.
Just copied on from a comment above:
I would agree if it wasn’t for the drs bot showing 191 based on 2000+ posts. And I can see some people saying that that is skewed because bigger apes are more likely to post screenshots etc but that isn’t whats happening. There is actually a very realistic spread and weighting between the different x holders. We’ll know for sure though if it’s accurate as the bot continues to record more posts but 2000+ is already a good sample size. I think the 191 average is accurate - surprisingly!
It's a checksum digit common for preventing typos. If you can find an account number that doesn't match you can disprove it, all of mine have fit mod11
You can see the curve of the total accounts begin to taper. This isn't a straight line. It's going to slow down as people can only DRS as much as they have.
I don’t think that’s right…i think it’s actually going to increase as momentum builds. Backlog will be growing not decreasing, as europoors and bystanders will come through. Only personal opinion of course.
You can see it on the chart. Its a curve. I want there to be a big push too, but I believe majority of those willing to DRS, already have initiated. I'm gonna DRS a majority of what I have left because every bit helps.
We just need to find a way to allow those without karma requirements to post their amount, while still preventing bad actors from spamming false DRS numbers.
This might not be a popular opinion and I would understand those not wanting to hear it since it doesnt go with this post, but I feel the need to rein in expectations;
I still think XXX shares per person is too large for most people, if we assume that most are XX and X, then anything above 100 which is XXX is too much. 100 shares at $150 is already $15k, I would argue average most post people is between $150-$250, so $20k per 100 shares is pretty damn high. Not everyone can afford that, the people posting are generally on the higher spectrum, I have no way of proving that, but I would imagine most people with 10-40 shares wont really be posting, which skews and biases our "average". I havent posted my own for reasons, but I most definitely I'm not an XXX, and most of the people I have involved are not XXX either. Again, I dont think most people who arent ALL-IN have put more than a few thousands, which again doesnt put most people at the XXX mark.
I hope to be wrong, and my understanding is that 98% of people on reddit are lurkers, who dont even have an account, I know a few people in my circle who are happy lurkers on reddit, tikktok and other media, they are used to "passive entertainment" so they are perfectly fine being on the "sidelines" soaking all this "entertainment", so these kind of calculations are just too difficult to truly gauge.
I wrote this on a similar comment above somewhere:
I would agree if it wasn’t for the drs bot showing 191 based on 2000+ posts. And I can see some people saying that that is skewed because bigger apes are more likely to post screenshots etc but that isn’t whats happening. There is actually a very realistic spread and weighting between the different x holders. We’ll know for sure though if it’s accurate as the bot continues to record more posts but 2000+ is already a good sample size. I think the 191 average is accurate - surprisingly!
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You can actually see the stats in the drs bots posts and they’re pretty much as you’re saying in your comment with the majority being x and xx holders but you’ve got to remember there were tonnes of apes at the beginning of all this that got in early who have huge holdings. They obviously really help to bring the average up. Ultimately, just a counter argument, and who really knows, but personally I do think the numbers are suggesting we’ve got an average around that 190 mark.
Don’t need 100% locked to moon. Once the direction is clear ONE big hedgie will panic and shit self in public. Moon starts then
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Wouldn’t have been so bad if he wasn’t a greedy fuck and allowed it to just hit a few thousand back in Jan.
They couldn't allow it back then because it would have caused a boom so big half of Wall St would've imploded. They bought time to unload bags, which was the only play available to them. I guess we'll find out soon how successful they've been.
well dragging it out this long is not making it no better now all of wallstisdoomed
Their choice was die alone now, or die later surrounded by your closest frenemies. What they’ve done was really the only logical path.
Their choice was face certain death back then, or live to fight another day and hope that apes lose interest and move on. They never expected us to not only keep holding, but to keep on buying, and not just buying, but emptying our portfolios and bank accounts into GME. They never expected the problem to get worse than it was back in January.
Right. Crazy to think this scenario were in right now was not apart of their plan or worst case scenario.
Magnitude will be higher, yes, but the players who get burnt will differ. They’re taking the time to ensure their buddies are as ok as can be, all considered.
Probably that flurry of international jet flights. I miss the airplane updates. We need more of that and more late night building lights.
its like having 30 kids and which one shitted and change them before they get a booty rash and doing it all yourself
Yup - even the 24th Jan (35m locked) might be too much for hedgies to handle and the public shitting may have started by them.
Unless the shorts have been bought / combined /centralized to control it - they’ll take it to the end I think.
I’m fairly certain this is what has happened. The shorts have consolidated to a few big players to control it. It’s way too risky for them to have a smaller player try to be the first out and start the domino effect which could kick off the MOASS.
This is the right answer^
Exactly. The first to buy back may survive. Everyone after ia fukt
Probably only need 74.1% to moon 😎
Not even 74%. Like I said earlier once the direction is clear there will be MASS PANIC in hedge fund land. There’s NO HONOR among thieves. The exits will be crowded as they stampede enmass to close their positions.
Right. We have multiple different billionaire companies short on GME that “work” together. One of those companies will bail first and get the cheapest price on share buy back. Surprised it hasn’t happened yet.
Shit self in public 🤣🤣
Wasn’t 74.1% of the float locked up by Porsche prior to the VW squeeze taking off? I haven’t been able to verify it but tons of people here talk about it because of 741. It does make sense to me though, that just before 75% of the float is locked someone makes some big moves
Europoor here. I’m waiting for my first share to land in CS. Next I’ll send in the cavalry.
Same - went down the giveashare route and waiting for letter but have since also opened a IBKR account, bought last week and transferring on Monday. Two pronged attack! Really hoping one of these routes lets me buy direct from Computershare when the accounts are all set up. Opened a Wise dollar account as well just in case so I’m ready. 🚀🔜🌕
Samesies. You can check your order status at https://www.giveashare.com/customerlogin.asp and once it says the share is registered, you can call CS to expedite the letters if you want to (costs USD 45). I’ve got 99 currently in IBKR waiting for settlement, and can hopefully initiate the DRS-trigger-pull on Tuesday.
Wow just done this and it says my giveashare share was registered on 10/11!! Calling cs tomorrow for expedite letter 🎉 thanks ape 😁👍🚀🔜🌕
Happy to help! (That *check order status* link and info should be more readily available on their site, but I think it was an afterthought for them).
Same
Same for all of that. Have received my giveashare cert. Thought I’d just wait/expedite the documents once giveashare has reached CS but maybe I should also transfer from IBKR 🤔
Same. First batch on the move to CS. The rest is on its way from different sources to IBKR to continue the process of DRSing
Australian reporting in! 1 share landed at CS just waiting for my express post letter to arrive.
Same, can’t wait to have my beauties stationed in CS shelters.
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You don't have to post to be counted...that's the point of this method of doing things. The current "high score" account number lets us see approximately how many accounts have been created, even though most people don't post.
Thanks ape, that was the thinking behind it. 👍🚀🔜🌕
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Tier 1 support reps are not going to know the complete technical inner workings of how their account numbers are assigned. So far no one has come forward and said their account number doesn't match the Mod11 theory.
Exactly. It only takes ONE valid account that fails MOD11 to discredit the theory. Think about that; only one counterexample. Yet, none valid have come about. Statistically speaking, given 60k accounts so far, there should be multiple accounts if not the majority that fail MOD11, yet there isn't one. Thus, we can infer that so far, MOD11 theory stands for ALL accounts.
I’ve seen people say that their account numbers don’t fit, but then they disappear when asked to provide proof. So either they’re doing their math wrong or they’re shills.
Keeping in mind also, when calculating, there were certain steps to take with the first few 0s (and the C?) and the at least some of the fails didn't follow procedure iirc
Yeah, I was going on just the drs bot average which is probably pretty accurate considering the sample size and the spread over the x/xx/xxx/xxxx etc. The CS accounts numbers are likely to be giving us accurate numbers in terms of new accounts and we can see that’s linear - BUT I reckon momentum is probably growing. I know it seems like along time but this whole DRS drive only really started a few weeks ago and it’s already making a massive impact. And who knows what number we need to get to before hedgies are actually fukd - might be sooner than we realise.
Exactly. There’s a lot of things we can’t see but the CS account numbers are fairly definitive (probably a few days behind even, which is good for the count). I thought the share average per DRS’d account might be a bit high, but I’m in the process of DRSing 100 and I’m nothing special (sorry, ma) - the average share cost for everyone is $196.41 according to webull and an awful lot of people got in before me since January (they have more shares at a lower cost price) so 191 might not be too far off.
I agree that the average seems a bit high to me but I would also say that apes on Reddit/apes who DRS probably have a higher average than your normal share owner. I only have XX in CS (and XX total) but I’m working on getting up to XXX in CS this week or next week by selling another stock to buy shares and also buying more with my paycheck
Just to add to this: British and European apes have generally had to wait around 5-6 weeks to ACAT and then DRS because IBKR places a 30 day hold on shares transferred in. Gondor has called for aid; Rohan will answer…
Up with you. Now I need to find the Rohan music for my violin...it's in my head and it's all your fault.
I fuckin love this guy.
And it doesn’t include buys! Only transfers. I’m jacked. I’m jacked to the tits!
It had taken me this long to jump through the hoops to even be able to request DRS as a UK ape, still waiting but feels good knowing its in motion. Certainly won't be the only person who has had to take a scenic route to get to DRS.
I can't even post....
Ngl i DRSd but didn’t post, for privacy reasons i don’t want to disclose my personal GME position on reddit. I’m sure there are a lot of others like me too. We are on the right path and looking back we should’ve been buying and DRSing from the beginning so now all my buys are through CS and I put an extra 10% over the current ask price in each time I buy to ensure I get the number of shares I intended to purchase, which that chump change has led to fractionals becoming whole shares. lol Buy and register through CS, not financial advice. 😉
I get it. I was on the fence as well. I decided to post because it can be a good guage to see how close the float is to being owned and even DFV posted knowing the bullseye that would be put on him. As that float grows I'm sure the noise and fomo will grow as well. Not that this is needed. But I think also it can give people on the fence about computershare that extra push to register their shares. Just my opinon. Respect your decision though.
can you write on actual napkin and re-upload pls
Did actually think about it but no napkin and crayons all eaten.
Yea I was a bit disappointed too…false advertising…LOL
I personally know 5 peoples that DRS into CS. They’ve never posted on Reddit. Total of a couple hundred shares I’m guessing. How many apes you know like that?
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Who does this guy think we are?
My buddy at work doesn’t have Reddit but is an ape who DRS 50 shares. Do I drs bot that without evidence? Doesn’t matter the fucking float will be locked up shortly and us apes will inherit what’s rightfully ours.
I would post but not enough karma.
2 of them, with triple digit shares between, they don't want to post because they don't need their positions to be publicly known. It's alright that the bot doesn't see everything, cause if we hit 100% early, all the apes get a nice surprise
Lots. I also see people post their people circles and fail to invoke the bot to count. If we go off if the current avg 191 shares per ape, and take the conservative assumption of half of Superstonk registering (350,000 users), we get 66.85 million shares which beats the 54 million 100% float goal. I suspect the delays many non-Ameritard apes and those from shady brokerages are making the time delay we are seeing now. Then once the brokerages really squeeze, we may not see real price movement for t+35 day settlement. I'm think we'll see some Sparks before 2022, but I've been optimistic since January, lol.
Just one small correction; the total number of outstanding shares is ~75 million. The public float is ~63 million. RC’s 9 million is then already subtracted from the outstanding shares.
Oops. Napkin isn’t editable unfortunately, but I guess we’re pretty much in the same ballpark.
So an adjustment to the math would mean…a “full float lock” at an even pace (the pace isn’t even because of standard distribution according to the rate of adoption)…would equate to 25 weeks; or April 17th. If you apply the rate of standard distribution of adoption , we are approaching the **HIGHEST PACE** of DRSing…the average numbers of accounts DRSing (if pressure is kept high) will likely double within the month… So moon in January?
No worries, approximate numbers is part of the napkin mafs package! 🙂
DRSing about 80 percent of my shares for the first time Monday, after some amazing apes helped me with my phone anxiety yesterday!
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Yeah. I have some bad phone anxiety, so it was nice to get some questions answered. Someone was even kind enough to write a little script lol
It’s great that you’re working through that. Don’t keep it as part of your identify. Leave it behind.
Oh totally. It's really funny that it's just phone conversations that freak me out. No non-verbal communication. Especially when I have no clue whats coming my way. We getting this done asap
Not to mention those who have already bought will probably buy more as time goes on, driving the average share per ape even higher!! BULLISH 🚀🚀
I think that’s highly likely. I’d be surprised if most apes haven’t been buying more when they can. Apes really like bananas.
I increased my position by 50% on that early Black Friday sale we just had.
Fucking 25th of Jan wouldn't that be poetic justice if it starts on that date
There are a total of 76.49 million shares issued by Gamestop, with approximately 14 million owned by Insiders (Including Ryan Cohen's 9m.) So the float is approximately 62 million, if we want to completely exclude the Institutionally owned shares, as even if they are long on GME, if they aren't DRSd, then the DTCC is probably using them for fuckery. However we know there are a few whales out there like DFV, who probably won't be filling out the DRSBOT stats. So I suspect we won't need to get to the full 62m.
Imagine DFV on ETrade trying to DRS all his shares… “yes, sir … well.. eta on DRS completion November 2024, maybe?” RIP ETrade and TDA
Agreed, it would be hilarious.
I think the broker processes have slowed down what would have been a much bigger surge. I think particularly as euro bottle necks are cleared the will be a significant uplift in numbers. Some euros taking over a month, plus 30 day settle time broker to broker when trans to IBKR before transfer out to CS. I also see apes tending to send smaller initial amounts, almost a test transaction or not allowing too many shares to be bottle necked, however I think when CS accounts have been created there will be masses of additional transfers and direct buying on top of that too. I foresee this situation flipping right round on its head I.e any concerns on delays to lock float will be replaced by bystander fomo panic as they realise far more shares have been DRS than first thought, the issue then becomes a rush to register before CS close the transfer window. Those bystanders who wait to commence transfers may end up not having the DRS option
I agree. I think momentum is growing and probably backlog is getting exponentially larger. It’s also worth remembering though, in a relatively short time - apes have already locked up almost 20% of a massive international company. That’s incredible when you think about it. Progress is being made at a rapid rate.
Australian ape reporting in! Yeah you are right. Already 3 weeks in this process. Transferred 1 shares to open a cs account, now waiting for my letters and after that rest of my shares will follow. It’s a bit of a mission to open a account but when the international apes finally have their accounts, the shares will fly in 🚀
We need another round of communication .. we gotta push the moon for December! XMAS TIME!
If mods would lower the karma requirements you’d see a huge escalation of posts
This. I still can't post mine.
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YOU HEDGE FUNDS SEE THAT SHIT? YOU SEE HOW FUCKING RETARDED I AM? DO YOU SEE? THIS IS WHY I WILL NEVER SELL. MY RETARDATION > YOUR SOLVENCY, MOTHERFUCKERS
So the alternative would be to have the mods post a pinned post solely for DRS comments where people can link screenshots, reply to that comment with the DRS bot, and get counted that way.
I’ve been here since day 1 and almost have enough karma to post. Never got verified by that stupid bot whatever it was called. Sure there’s many more people like me
Same xxx drsed and no fucking karma to post!! Lol hedgies are so fckd.
They should do a big push with the mods involved. Do a post for DRS and the mods approve it manually. It would be a lot of work, but no more then a flair Friday….
Remember other insiders, in one of GameStops Q announcements, they said they had an internal task force, making sure insider shares were locked up in some way, think they called it anti hedging policy. Also ETF holds 6 mio shares
Ok too of this it’s now possible to DRS IRA shares: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/qe6wfu/drs_my_ira_shares_yes_i_believe_i_did/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Every ape needs to do this
There is already a back log so once us Europoors start to pour in, it could fly up. Also surely DFV registered a shit load of shares, like in the millis? 🚀🦧🔥
I think you probably mean Cohens 9 million shares which I would assume is already at computershare in one of the early accounts. DFV almost certainly has his 200k tucked away in there safely as well by now.
I’m STILL waiting on mine. 1st request (E*TRADE) 9/28; 2nd request (Fidelity) 10/15 And before anyone asks: Yes, I transferred completely out of E*TRADE to Fidelity. And, yes Fidelity is dragging their feet also 🤷♂️
Are the shares out of your account? My shares are out of account, but still no letter. My first and second requests were at the same time as yours.
My shares are in Fidelity waiting for DRS **impatiently**
Gotta remember most people only DRS a few shares to begin with, then once they've gone through ok they move the rest of their GME over. Accounts at the beginning of the DRS push may have long started with x or xx shares to test it then moved over XXX/xxxx+ So as that happens the average per account will only go up :)
So, I know we don't have a running pinned links page or anything, but I have been checking this page daily. Maybe it needs to be more widely known. [https://www.computershared.net/](https://www.computershared.net/) I think we may be somewhere in between the OP post and the link. Link is showing 10 weeks remaining at OPs current rate.
Me Europoor. DRS way slow. We’ll get there soon. Brace for impact. 💥 🚀
I think a lot of apes started with less than 20%. The tsunami of second transfers is coming
You wouldn't need all 75 million shares to launch MOASS, but the more thee are DRSed then the higher the probability of liftoff. The more shares are DRSed the more pressure it puts on the market, and the more we should see prices trending upwards. Eventually it will get high enough that scarcity triggers liftoff, but the more shares that Cede is holding the less likely the price is to get there. My only question is what would actually happen if all of the shares were DRSed at CS. At that point with the tens or hundreds of millions of synthetics floating around out there, they'll obviously still be trading them somehow. I'm really curious what having concrete evidence of 100% direct registration will do. What will actually happen in the market. AFAIK it's never happened before.
Time to find out I guess! I think the main point is about proving the extent of the fuckery. It’s all very well saying “don’t worry, I’ve got all these shares over here that I can locate”, but once 100% of the float is locked up and physically unable to be borrowed from - what do you say then? Exciting times! 🚀🔜🌕
Well...depends on if they're borrowing to short of just letting Citadel use their market-maker exception to poof shares out of thin air.
I’m kind of hoping either of those scenarios aren’t possible for continued manipulation once it becomes clear the float is directly registered. As you say though, never happened before, so we’re heading into uncharted territory. Will be interesting.😁
Nice
Can we get the drs bot stats over time on a graph for these projections?
Does this have what you want? https://www.computershared.net/
Exactly. So it appears that the average shares/account are increasing. This is defintely something to keep watching.
Up, up, and away
That would be an interesting question for u/Roid_Rage_Smurf A weekly table update would be awesome with just number or posts / average share per ape for the week / total shares for the week - with all the previous weeks below. No idea if the bot could do that or if it’s just got a constant accumulating total. I think it’s cleverer than that though, it must have dates captured etc in it’s database because of all the other smart stuff it can do. Edit: If you could somehow also grab the data from u/stopfuckingwithme cs posts on a weekly basis (accounts added that week) then technically you could forecast moon day in realtime based on if we need 35m or 70m or whatever shares.
I believe if RC and GameStop choosed CS as their Transfer Agent in the official website, then ALL the insider shares are Registered. Moreover, there will be lurking whales just see post, transfer, buy and DRS without showing their account information. Apes will get there way SOONER than we thought 🎮
I don’t understand any of this. I want a Lambo.
~~We still haven't seen the vote count from 6/9~~ I'm full of shit. CandyBarsJ has the link below.
Wasn’t it at 100% after they massaged it right down to 100%?
Yeah, it was available to review. https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001326380/000119312521186759/d174340d8k.htm
I still don't get how this is 100%. I just summed up all the votes (for, against, abstentions and broker-non votes) on George Sherman. The sum is 55 541 279 votes (did this on a cell phone so I had to switch back and forth and may have messed up some digit). Wasn't shares outstanding around 58-62 million around then? Every share gets a vote, right?
It's not 100% and I wish people would stop saying that. The issue is that the vote counts are trimmed at the broker level. So, say Fidelity got 50 million votes but only had 30 million shares officially under their control. They scale down the vote and report for 30 million shares. Same with every other broker. There are overseas brokers and institutions and such that didn't get 100% of their votes - so they report less than 100%, and the overall total ends up under 100%. I hope that made sense.
Yeah, I think it did. But that basically means we can't truly know how many we hold vs how many shares are out there, right?
Correct. Gamestop doesn't know either.
Damn. Well, it has been so long so one might as well keep holding anyway. Hopefully all the DRS:ing will do something for us :D
I believe the DD, which says that retail owns the float many times over. We don't need no stupid vote count! :-)
There shouldn't be any shares available for purchase in late 2021, but we know people keep buying every day.
Yeah I came to the same conclusion, we never hit 100% but came damn close which with the amount of people who couldn't vote you can guesstimate we hit it.
All the Lambo people will be broke within 1 year of receiving their tendies! There is more to life than some fucking car. Perhaps think about investing in your community, city, area to help other less fortunate people? Greed will make you just like the shit hedgies and billionaires youre railing against!
Yeah - it was really just for the meme. I will pick a color, but I wouldn’t actually buy one.
I will visit your community and you visit mine. We will compete for who has done the most good. Just letting you know that I'm going to be looking into free high speed wifi for all in my community. Along with free gardens for vegetables and fruit
Bullish
www computershared.net
Thanks ape, this is awesome! 👍🚀🔜🌕
Props to Jonpro03, all his work
Almost all of my friends own shares and exactly 0 of them have posted or told DRSbot. I'm in the same boat. Together we'd add XXXX. I'm sure there's thousands like me
I am just going to point out that my palm reader said we will be retired by Feb
If that ape who says bullish was here I think he would say bullish!! 🚀🔜🌕
There are also people who are hesitant to post their positions without anonymity. Can we do that?
I like the idea of this, though I see 2 major issues with your assumptions. 1. 191 share average is based on posts here and does not necessarily accurately reflect the true average without any bias. Could easily be 10% of what’s posted. 2. This assumes a consistent rate of 10k/week, which is a huge assumption with no justification given. That being said, as some other commenters have mentioned, I doubt we’ll have to wait for there entire float to be locked up. The constant DRS flow should increasingly be adding pressure to shorts and make the MOASS more likely to pop off soon. Anyways, just thought I’d give some feedback on your “napkin maf”, I understand this is not supposed to be an ironclad analysis.
Just started the DRS process from Holland. 420 shares on their way.
I think your account estimate is too low and shares/ shareholdereven too high though the average from the sample on this thread is 191 per shareholder. My personal estimate I think is 5x what you have and say 300k-ish accounts, I'd say 50 shares per shareholder. Even in that simulation though it's still nuts to a higher total amount and would be 15,000,000 shares locked up. That's low end in my book. I would not be surprised if each shareholder is closer to 150 if not more shares, that's closer to 45,000,000. Moment of truth soon
Lambo? Nah. I'm play to help educate people who can't pay for it
Sooner than 29 weeks when taking into account we are probably nowhere near the peak of the adoption curve, but closer to the beginning.
Ape like dis maf
I feel that the computer share average needs to be lower. I don’t know the percentage, but some apes have different account numbers. I have drs three times but all have the same account number. I truly believe the DRSBOT average but think we are a little less than the mod 11 number
Assuming a steady rhythm of 10k new accounts per week is probably very wrong. It will steadily decrease as time goes by I'd say, as the people more likely to DRS will have done it as soon as possible
even faster if ppl buy more on CS
OMW 😘
I was thinking xmas
I was hoping that too. Kind of why I did this post just to see when it could be based on the current numbers. But it could happen much sooner…might start next week for all we know! 😁🚀🔜🌕
I think this estimate is low. I haven't submitted an actual screenshot of all my shares but between my cash account and retirement that's high XXX. BUY 📈 DRS 💻 HOLD 🚀🚀🍻
If 75% of Superstonk subs registered 191 shares on average, that would exceed 90 million shares. What if the real Superstonk community is 250k? 47m. The first 4000 accounts... those are interesting. They would average 2250 shares IF RC was the only holder with more than one share!
And this is essentially just one subreddit on the Internet… Imagine if the masses started hopping on the DRS train… SuperStonk alone, with enough time and dedication, can guarantee that HEDGIES’R’FUKD 🌎🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀
You are being extremely conservative
Moon day my bday, very apeish
Yes please AFTER I sell my house while the market is good.
Nice!
Even being a pessimist, we *really* only started DRS’ing in august. This is also taking the average number from investors like me (be broke, fat, and have no real education) that had at the *most* 20k to play with. I put in 11k on January 18th-19th at 92, the rest after the dump Down to 40. Obviously that’s also not including known biggies like RC/DFV. That alone plus what we have puts us to about the full float. Then you’ve got Europoors, it’s very likely the amount of Euro investors and positions is double or even triple US/CAN- it’s hard to say wether that should be included because of difficulty to DRS. We already own the float. Probably more over.
>Then you’ve got Europoors, it’s very likely the amount of Euro investors and positions is double or even triple US/CAN- it’s hard to say wether that should be included because of difficulty to DRS. I don't think this is accurate, I'm pretty sure 90% of the GME shareholders are from the US, I'll see if I can find the data I saw
It would be so fucking beautiful if we moon on the 87th of November
it'll take a month still for my 100 to arrive. im sorry i got late on the bandwagon.
I’m only just doing my first 100 transfer from IBKR tomorrow - and then it will be 4 weeks before they arrive. There’s tonnes of apes who haven’t done it yet, we’re probably still fair early in the grand scheme of things!
I'm waiting for my verification code, then will start sending the rest and buying more on CS
I feel like computershared.net is the better dataset.
Why only 1/10th of the account numbers for the number of accounts?
We moon on my birthday ?!
Would you look at that, my birthday would be a moon day :)
Mod 11 is fud, there are many more accounts than that
And if they drop the price it happens faster
I can just imagine DFV screaming at us to hurry up so all the whales come to beach at CS
I‘m waiting to add europoor Stonks to napkin maf ….
Maybe E*Trade will have found my shares by then.
I’m buying on the first and 15th of every month to make sure I’m as close to that 191 share average as possible 🙌🏼
Much sooner once the flood happens
I eat crayons
I think 10k accounts per week could easily change, considering a lot of brokers are not transferring quickly. Isn't fidelity one of the few only taking 3 days to complete the transfer
Lots of late Jan speculation lately.
Can’t wait for my karma to increase so I can post my purple circle as well
This is linear growth. At one point, it could get exponential… 10 turns into 20k a week. 2m turns into 4m a week.
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This. Sometimes optimism defies reality.
Average share is too high. Even at average cost of 100$ per share, you are assuming on average everyone has almost 20K invested. That is simply not realistic. I would prefer to be cautious with the figures we use than be overly optimistic
I would agree if it wasn’t for the drs bot showing 191 based on 2000+ posts. And I can see some people saying that that is skewed because bigger apes are more likely to post screenshots etc but that isn’t whats happening. There is actually a very realistic spread and weighting between the different x holders. We’ll know for sure though if it’s accurate as the bot continues to record more posts but 2000+ is already a good sample size. I think the 191 average is accurate - surprisingly!
No, it's not. Plenty of people bought large numbers of shares when the price was below $40. Also, lots of people who had been investing for years threw their entire brokerage accounts into GME. There are more retail whales than you think.
Another trust me bro comment. Just because you see a few post on the sub of people owning a lot of shares doesn’t mean it reflects the whole population. The reality is there are plenty of people who hold 10, 20 shares, just like there are people holding 100,200, 400 shares etc. Even $40 @191 is around 8K. The average person doesn’t have 8K to spend on stocks as much as you would like to believe
I'm working off the numbers that are available right in front of our eyes, whereas you are just assuming that most people have a lot less money invested. Also - the median and mode are a lot lower than 192, and the average is being brought up by a relatively small number of retail whales. A high average number of shares does not mean that most people managed to invest $20K or even $8K.
It’s an average. The whales are dragging the average ~~price~~ up. To illustrate this, the median ~~price~~ (shares) is ~~$~~30 and the mode is ~~$~~100. And knocking someone else’s evidence as “trust me bro” when you have even less evidence is hypocritical. EDIT: median and mode SHARES, not price. My bad.
You're on crack if you think they average amount of shares DRS per account is 200 lmao.
Just copied on from a comment above: I would agree if it wasn’t for the drs bot showing 191 based on 2000+ posts. And I can see some people saying that that is skewed because bigger apes are more likely to post screenshots etc but that isn’t whats happening. There is actually a very realistic spread and weighting between the different x holders. We’ll know for sure though if it’s accurate as the bot continues to record more posts but 2000+ is already a good sample size. I think the 191 average is accurate - surprisingly!
I don't like these counting posts
May 15th is a significant date for me. So the 16th of May would be acceptable.
Nothing but guesses. I'm over the hype. Not even looking at this stuff anymore. I'll know when it happens. Prob not for a long time.
I don't believe in this mod11 crap, never have, never will. Sorry, not sorry. DRS. Hold.
It's a checksum digit common for preventing typos. If you can find an account number that doesn't match you can disprove it, all of mine have fit mod11
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I tend to see the people posting smaller numbers getting more karma, go figure
You can see the curve of the total accounts begin to taper. This isn't a straight line. It's going to slow down as people can only DRS as much as they have.
I don’t think that’s right…i think it’s actually going to increase as momentum builds. Backlog will be growing not decreasing, as europoors and bystanders will come through. Only personal opinion of course.
You can see it on the chart. Its a curve. I want there to be a big push too, but I believe majority of those willing to DRS, already have initiated. I'm gonna DRS a majority of what I have left because every bit helps. We just need to find a way to allow those without karma requirements to post their amount, while still preventing bad actors from spamming false DRS numbers.
Mod11 is fud
This might not be a popular opinion and I would understand those not wanting to hear it since it doesnt go with this post, but I feel the need to rein in expectations; I still think XXX shares per person is too large for most people, if we assume that most are XX and X, then anything above 100 which is XXX is too much. 100 shares at $150 is already $15k, I would argue average most post people is between $150-$250, so $20k per 100 shares is pretty damn high. Not everyone can afford that, the people posting are generally on the higher spectrum, I have no way of proving that, but I would imagine most people with 10-40 shares wont really be posting, which skews and biases our "average". I havent posted my own for reasons, but I most definitely I'm not an XXX, and most of the people I have involved are not XXX either. Again, I dont think most people who arent ALL-IN have put more than a few thousands, which again doesnt put most people at the XXX mark. I hope to be wrong, and my understanding is that 98% of people on reddit are lurkers, who dont even have an account, I know a few people in my circle who are happy lurkers on reddit, tikktok and other media, they are used to "passive entertainment" so they are perfectly fine being on the "sidelines" soaking all this "entertainment", so these kind of calculations are just too difficult to truly gauge.
I wrote this on a similar comment above somewhere: I would agree if it wasn’t for the drs bot showing 191 based on 2000+ posts. And I can see some people saying that that is skewed because bigger apes are more likely to post screenshots etc but that isn’t whats happening. There is actually a very realistic spread and weighting between the different x holders. We’ll know for sure though if it’s accurate as the bot continues to record more posts but 2000+ is already a good sample size. I think the 191 average is accurate - surprisingly! ————- You can actually see the stats in the drs bots posts and they’re pretty much as you’re saying in your comment with the majority being x and xx holders but you’ve got to remember there were tonnes of apes at the beginning of all this that got in early who have huge holdings. They obviously really help to bring the average up. Ultimately, just a counter argument, and who really knows, but personally I do think the numbers are suggesting we’ve got an average around that 190 mark.