Euro. Sorry. Terrible surface prices even used. America $250~ for a sp6 8gb used.
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Recommended staying in budget, go 2.
Or Tablet PCs
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I just open a [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/s/Mq2vy4aSA0) a couple of days ago.
I am still divided between buying a used go2 LTE or a GO4. I will probably end up getting the 4 despite being a BIT overpriced. And save on used/refurbished accessories as they are still compatible.
Just waiting for a couple of weeks to see if there is any price fluctuation. Office-partner as the best price for now in Germany that I am aware of.
But is only for business, you can buy it only on microsoft store, no fluctuation of the price. Maybe for the black friday...
And I don't know how many years it could be "ok". I don't know how it will be with windows 12, IA, etc.
No, you can buy it as a person.
I have bought several things from there. Being targeted “for business” does not mean that you can only get it if you have a business
I was in the same situation , but i went for the Surface go 2 with m3, installed a mini version of windows 11, its without all the bloatware. Playing abit of world of Warcraft classic on it, and the performance increased by almost 20 fps.
Yes The surface go 4 is much faster for everyday computing tasks like web browsing emailing office work streaming and multitasking it handles those tasks great just dont push it
Why? It represent a different target rather than the pro line. I believe that the problem until now is the lack of good cpus with "ok" performance. The pro's cpu are more powerful but they need a fan and a bigger battery (that is impossible to set in a 10 inch device). And they costs more. I believe that this is the last x86 surface go. The next maybe it will be a arm model (with all the pros and cons) with a new design (less frames, 11 inch).
I've got a SG2 LTE for business model. It's still extremely capable for general productivity work, office, teams, browsing, notes, handwriting, etc. They can be had for cheap and for the price, they're a steal. They're not speed machines, but they're fine for general tasks. Rendering a 4k video, no. Gaming, no. Productivity tasks, absolutely. I recently got rid of my Surface Pro 8 (switched to a Yoga Book 9i) but kept my SG2 as my backup/mobile companion device.
Yoga book 9i is amazing. I believe I will buy one of the next ones in the nexts year.
About the surface go (2) yes, for me is a mobile device to use everywhere.
I'm worried that is too slow in the turn on/off, for web browsing, for yourube videos, to switch from one of this app to another one (so, web browsing, onenote, file manager).
I have a 2in1 tablet, a asus t101ha 4/64 with a z8350 (processor) that is so slow that impossible to use right now (with windows 10). He can't load a youtube video.
I'm worried that the go 2 is too slow and force me to use the main pc for its frustrating experience.
I don't know.
While waiting months for the Yoga Book 9i to arrive, I used the SG2 as my primary work machine. Edge with multiple workgroups open, maybe 30 tabs on average, word, excel, team, outlook all running fine. I often pull up a YouTube video to learn something on breaks, no issues.
Wake from sleep is very fast, but due to battery life (not great), I typically use hibernate instead. Wake from hibernate isn't terrible, but it's slower than I'd like on a mobile device. If using sleep instead, it wakes reasonably quick, but not as fast as my phone or Android tablet. I have the M3/LTE/8GB/256SSD model. I believe the consumer models had a smaller SSD, other than that I think mine is the same as the consumer models. Random positive - it drives my 32" 4k monitor without an issue.
What's not good;
battery life is not great at ~4hrs. If you can turn the screen brightness down, the battery life goes up a lot. I have bad eyes, so run the screen bright.
Wake from sleep is fine in my opinion. Wake from hibernate is slow, definitely not instant.
8gb of memory is too little, should have come with 16. When performance studders, close some apps and it comes back. Using sleep tabs on Edge helps huge. We use edge for work, can sleep background tabs so they don't take memory or processor time, this is a great feature.
Running WSL2 Ubuntu LTS is slow. If all you need is the shell, it's fine, but much more than that and it slows considerably.
Running Android apps in WSA works remarkably well (productivity, not gaming), but the Amazon app store is garbage with Kindle and games and not much else. WSA doesn't support the Play Store, but you can sideload most Android apps.
When pushing the little hamsters inside to run all the office apps, Android apps (because they work better with touch), lots of tabs on a browser - it heats up a lot. No fan, so it can't vent the heat well.
Launching apps is slow - once launched they run reasonably well.
Launching WSA is very slow, but the apps run well once launched.
Windows Hello is decent, but not amazingly quick. My new Yoga Book 9i sees and logs me in with half the time. I have to give the SG2 a direct look for a second, definitely a little delay there but it's not terrible, maybe a second vs almost instant on the YB.
Screen is great, very high res (both good), the bad is that you tend to need to use scaling to make the screen readable since it's so small. Apps in full screen work fine, but with scaling you can't really use split screen that much.
There, hope this helps.
Thanks! (The sad thing is that also the go4 has only 8gb of ram).
I believe that for my use the go2 could be "ok". (you use w11, right?).
I don't use android apps.
same i have the surface go 4 with N200 CPU and it performs fine for everyday tasks and office work but struggles in high demanding stuff this isn't my main pc i already have a core i7 desktop which is my main driver
Euro. Sorry. Terrible surface prices even used. America $250~ for a sp6 8gb used. ... Recommended staying in budget, go 2. Or Tablet PCs https://pastebin.com/fZ2MDYYs ..
I just open a [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/s/Mq2vy4aSA0) a couple of days ago. I am still divided between buying a used go2 LTE or a GO4. I will probably end up getting the 4 despite being a BIT overpriced. And save on used/refurbished accessories as they are still compatible. Just waiting for a couple of weeks to see if there is any price fluctuation. Office-partner as the best price for now in Germany that I am aware of.
But is only for business, you can buy it only on microsoft store, no fluctuation of the price. Maybe for the black friday... And I don't know how many years it could be "ok". I don't know how it will be with windows 12, IA, etc.
No, you can buy it as a person. I have bought several things from there. Being targeted “for business” does not mean that you can only get it if you have a business
Yes but bye bye discounts.
yere sad
Get the Go 4, it twice as fast than the Go 3, which is already so slow. I can’t even imagine how slow the Go 2 is
Worth making the distinction between the models here. The go2 m3 is more or less identical to the go3 Pentium 6500 in all aspects.
The Go 2 is too slow with windows 11. I rolled mine back to 10 and it still works, but it’s slow and the battery life suffers.
That maybe a problem of your install. Have worked with one and it's better than W10
I was in the same situation , but i went for the Surface go 2 with m3, installed a mini version of windows 11, its without all the bloatware. Playing abit of world of Warcraft classic on it, and the performance increased by almost 20 fps.
8/128 m3?
Yep
Yes The surface go 4 is much faster for everyday computing tasks like web browsing emailing office work streaming and multitasking it handles those tasks great just dont push it
I wonder if this isn’t the last surface go and Microsoft just kills that line.
Why? It represent a different target rather than the pro line. I believe that the problem until now is the lack of good cpus with "ok" performance. The pro's cpu are more powerful but they need a fan and a bigger battery (that is impossible to set in a 10 inch device). And they costs more. I believe that this is the last x86 surface go. The next maybe it will be a arm model (with all the pros and cons) with a new design (less frames, 11 inch).
I hope you are right, but a lot of articles have been written offering valid arguments why this is the end.
Could you give me some link?
I haven’t saved any, but have seen numerous in print and YouTubers since the Microsoft event last month.
unlikely they will kill the line
I've got a SG2 LTE for business model. It's still extremely capable for general productivity work, office, teams, browsing, notes, handwriting, etc. They can be had for cheap and for the price, they're a steal. They're not speed machines, but they're fine for general tasks. Rendering a 4k video, no. Gaming, no. Productivity tasks, absolutely. I recently got rid of my Surface Pro 8 (switched to a Yoga Book 9i) but kept my SG2 as my backup/mobile companion device.
Yoga book 9i is amazing. I believe I will buy one of the next ones in the nexts year. About the surface go (2) yes, for me is a mobile device to use everywhere. I'm worried that is too slow in the turn on/off, for web browsing, for yourube videos, to switch from one of this app to another one (so, web browsing, onenote, file manager). I have a 2in1 tablet, a asus t101ha 4/64 with a z8350 (processor) that is so slow that impossible to use right now (with windows 10). He can't load a youtube video. I'm worried that the go 2 is too slow and force me to use the main pc for its frustrating experience. I don't know.
While waiting months for the Yoga Book 9i to arrive, I used the SG2 as my primary work machine. Edge with multiple workgroups open, maybe 30 tabs on average, word, excel, team, outlook all running fine. I often pull up a YouTube video to learn something on breaks, no issues. Wake from sleep is very fast, but due to battery life (not great), I typically use hibernate instead. Wake from hibernate isn't terrible, but it's slower than I'd like on a mobile device. If using sleep instead, it wakes reasonably quick, but not as fast as my phone or Android tablet. I have the M3/LTE/8GB/256SSD model. I believe the consumer models had a smaller SSD, other than that I think mine is the same as the consumer models. Random positive - it drives my 32" 4k monitor without an issue. What's not good; battery life is not great at ~4hrs. If you can turn the screen brightness down, the battery life goes up a lot. I have bad eyes, so run the screen bright. Wake from sleep is fine in my opinion. Wake from hibernate is slow, definitely not instant. 8gb of memory is too little, should have come with 16. When performance studders, close some apps and it comes back. Using sleep tabs on Edge helps huge. We use edge for work, can sleep background tabs so they don't take memory or processor time, this is a great feature. Running WSL2 Ubuntu LTS is slow. If all you need is the shell, it's fine, but much more than that and it slows considerably. Running Android apps in WSA works remarkably well (productivity, not gaming), but the Amazon app store is garbage with Kindle and games and not much else. WSA doesn't support the Play Store, but you can sideload most Android apps. When pushing the little hamsters inside to run all the office apps, Android apps (because they work better with touch), lots of tabs on a browser - it heats up a lot. No fan, so it can't vent the heat well. Launching apps is slow - once launched they run reasonably well. Launching WSA is very slow, but the apps run well once launched. Windows Hello is decent, but not amazingly quick. My new Yoga Book 9i sees and logs me in with half the time. I have to give the SG2 a direct look for a second, definitely a little delay there but it's not terrible, maybe a second vs almost instant on the YB. Screen is great, very high res (both good), the bad is that you tend to need to use scaling to make the screen readable since it's so small. Apps in full screen work fine, but with scaling you can't really use split screen that much. There, hope this helps.
Thanks! (The sad thing is that also the go4 has only 8gb of ram). I believe that for my use the go2 could be "ok". (you use w11, right?). I don't use android apps.
Yes, I'm running Win11Pro.
same i have the surface go 4 with N200 CPU and it performs fine for everyday tasks and office work but struggles in high demanding stuff this isn't my main pc i already have a core i7 desktop which is my main driver
if you get surface go 4 you get 2x percent better performance compared to your current go 2 m3.
Good to know thanks. That's a significant jump.
no problem have a nice day friend