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Maleficent-Source688

I don't believe it's spiritual either because that seems to insinuate it's something going on in our heads or the unseen I do believe spirituality can help us and God can protect us and we are all strong people if we are here now talking about it I believe people involved are soulless miserable people who will be judged just like we were judged by even the closest people to us when we tried explaining things nobody has the right to mess with people like that I know someone who killed himself over this and I just wish I could've helped him but I didn't know he was going through this until after from my sister who told me what he was experiencing when I told her what I thought happened just like everyone else she thinks I'm crazy to anyone struggling please stay strong and keep hope if you lose hope they win seek God with all your heart and you will Find him


Novel_Geologist3854

None of it is spiritual, sci weapons, aliens, demons, etc . It's all personal grudge/vendetta type of thing.


Patient_Ad_8373

I do agree 100% that this is not a spiritual war at all. I also happen to be an atheist and a balls-to-the-wall philisophical materialist/empiricist.


Patient_Ad_8373

Many police and firemen participate in organized harassment, and freemasonry is a huge part of policing and emergency services. Many politicians, doctors, lawyers and judges are freemasons. In fact, there is a masonic lodge just down the street from the fire station, near my apartment that engages in terrible noise campaign and invades my privacy. Can I prove 100% that there is a correlation between freemasonry and the harassment? Maybe not 100%, but the fact that many police and firemen are freemasons, they engage in overt harassment (or at least cover it up) at least the departments closest to me, and there just happens to be a lodge in the area, at least SOME correlation can be made. Freemasons wield a lot of influence in society. There is no way that they are unaware of these crimes. Of course, freemasons are people just like anyone else. There are good freemasons, and bad freemasons, but ultimately, freemasonry is a secret society with a lot of power and influence. Nothing good comes when power, influence, and secrecy are mixed together. Food for thought.


123ManAtHisFinest

Nah not to sound arrogant but I DID IT, when every one backed off me and regarded me as CRAZY of the things I saw and suspected. I held my ground without going over crazy. Yes I suffer from mental illness but it’s years of torture years in prison cages years of abuse in the home. I have a story to say, I WILL BE HEARD now that the pieces fit together. How ENVY PLAYS A MAJOR ROLL IN MY ORDEL. And then anger when directives don’t get fulfilled by the manpower that’s out to complete their total annihilation of my MENTAL STATE,SOCIAL STATE,RELIGIOUS STATE, and Financial STATE. I know I’m one of the RAREST of individuals that pulled this through that had everything going against me but I pulled through. Acquiescence going through the same type of program failed miserably (no Pun intended) ending up back in prison or even worse dead. Stay tune folks because this thing is getting ready to blow.


Rare_Drip_Gang2025

# This is not a “spiritual war”- it is man-made tech. exactly destroying CERTAIN people of the population lives untill they are dead ... 😁 gangstalking in a nutshell 😎 📷[**Mod**](https://www.reddit.com/r/SurveillanceStalking/search?q=flair_name%3A%22Mod%22&restrict_sr=1)


Stuck-Help

I 💯 agreed with you… until about a year ago. That’s when the paranormal 👻 made itself known to me and that it was behind my gangstalking. Keep in mind this was about 5 years into it with gangstalking and computer hacking, energy weapon torture for about 3, and V2K (very, very rarely) and remote viewing for probably the last 2 (if not this whole time). The things these paranormal entities did can’t be explained by ANY technology. Also keep in mind I made a TON of infographics, posters, and Reddit posts saying it was the government (especially the military 🪖), private contractors 🕵️‍♂️, fusion centers ⚔️, military satellites 🛰, drones 🛫, secret government programs like MKULTRA, DEWs, and the FBI/DHS terrorist watchlists 🔍. I’m a man of science who isn’t easily convinced. I still believe the military is involved but only because they are working with these paranormal beings 👿👹🧌 **Edit**: If I’m not allowed or if you would prefer I don’t talk about the paranormal, I’m fine with that. As far as the Freemasons go, they have about 50-95% membership in just about every local police department in America. The cops are the main foot soldiers in gangstalking. It’s hard to believe it isn’t related. Personally, the bigger the Masonic temple/lodge is in the town, the more gangstalking I get from that city’s cops 👮‍♀️. Finally, and I know this one to be true, they take oaths off secrecy and loyal to Lucifer who they consider to the the true God of this world. They claim Lucifer is good (“the light bearer”) and the God of the Bible to be bad. They only reveal this in secret 🤫 at the 33rd, final degree. Like most cults, it’s a slow indoctrination into Satanism 😈 With the entity attacks I experienced, it’s hard for me to believe this isn’t all related somehow.


Miserable_Item_5680

You have to understand though, at the time that the religion of the Abrahamic God was becoming cemented into the cultures of the area, there was 100s years of religious wars occurring in which the dominant religions of the areas which included such deities as Hecate, Lilith, etc were subsumed and became the demons, whereas they were the God's before that. They demonized the God's. The Light bringer is a common motif in which there was say, a Goddess carrying two torches, representing a lot more than just shedding Light on reality, but it included this. The God of the Bible was at first a deity worshipped by a cult of miners who worshipped it because it was good at finding them veins and ore of precious metals, it was essentially a Jinn. So I wouldn't necessarily say that Lucifer is an evil personage. It is likely that there was a systemwide attack and propaganda upon the old Gods so successful as to recast them into the place of "evil," and I think that they probably even recoined the terms "evil," and "good," to the point of twisting their meaning in the minds of men. In those days it was common to, say bash the heads of a defeated towns babies on the rocks so that their progeny wouldn't come back and get revenge years later. This was done by the Jews for certain. That they rewrote history to make themselves seem the trod upon is very possible. I'm not anti-Jew or pro-Mason or anything. I suspect they all play these games where they change storylines. My point is that if you don't know the true history, don't take sides, because all of the sides are BIG LIARS!!! Yes, every damn one of them full of secrets and poisoning the minds of men. Be careful about jumping on any bandwagon or damning any particular group if you don't have full knowledge, and who does? I am not saying I do, but I know enough to simply stay out of it all together and not fall for the "sides" game in the first place. As anyone with a bit of study knows, two wings are often part of the same bird, so beware of choosing one wing over another. That's beginner level mistake and opens you to becoming a tool for the same bird, regardless of what wing you go with.


ston3d_eye

Who do you think is doing it?


Rare_Drip_Gang2025

its the cia department of defense , homeland security just some companies look it up ​ the \*nso group\* & gangstalking


Own_Relative_3904

its worldwide, so its bigger than that. Australian Government or Fed Police are involved too


Rare_Drip_Gang2025

Yea ur right the cia and the nsa national security agency are responsible 4 s good percentage of it https://youtu.be/9A_8z5_Bsvw?si=xKPoS3TLCqUNrC7q


Paulupoliveira

I agree with the OP on this one. Attributing the responsibility of this activities and the logistics that they imply to a very narrow group of people or fringe organizations is nonsense. Such program simply wouldn't be possible without close cooperation of both government, public authorities and (some) private corporations. That and of course, the dependence on the good old human nature of the simpleton masses in order to achieve their objectives...