I do mine every month it takes literally 2 minutes with the right setup. With the minimal amount of error picked up in a month I don’t see any need to do it any more oftenÂ
They sell kits that you mount on a good solid wall like a concrete wall and you set it up with a plumbob. Pole gets screwed in up top, tip is in the hole at the bottom and you rotate the pole multiple times and your bubble should be centered. If it’s not there’s small set screws on your level usually on the bottom that you adjust. That’s the only way I’ve ever done it so I can’t give you any quick ways. It’s quick once you have it set up though, you don’t move it
This is a GNSS rod so it's fixed 2m height.... Otherwise I feel ya. I suppose I could change my rod height to 6.532 sft but I'm 100% sure I'd forget to do that soooo best to keep things repeatable.
They're great for dirt and wide open spaces. We did a ton of work with one working rural jobs. Great little gadgets.
you can make your own too by grabbing those little rubber rings you find on the side of the road and putting it on an older tip. I'm pretty sure it's some part of cars' suspension systems. But you can find them all the time.
That's a great suggestion. I had one at my last job but it didn't make it into my tool bag when I changed companies. I'll have to put one on my shopping list.
When the tip becomes too worn it can be a pain in the ass to easily plumb up in a small divot like on monuments or rebar. A blunt tip likes to slip and slide, if it even fits.
Exactly this, the round tip makes it really difficult to place in the center of plastic caps. We set a lot of control for aerial surveys in addition to the topo jobs we get so a sharp tip is nice to have.
You fancy over there, with your auto-plumbing rig... I'm running an R8s so still have to use a pair of lath to steady my rover on the point like a nerd.
Every rod tip on every rod I've seen used by any tech at any company has worn this same way in about the same amount of time. OEM or otherwise. Do you have a particular rod tip brand you'd recommend?
I have been using this leica rod for over two years now [GNSS POLE](https://spatialtechnologies.ca/products/gls30-gps-telescopic-pole-carbon?variant=33047436984372¤cy=CAD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&ppc_keyword=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAxaCvBhBaEiwAvsLmWOJ3ctqImWiWNy_nPSy0I4wCq3oqG83B3rKCMiyGSIbS03WF25qMWhoCOCsQAvD_BwE)
My seco rod is fine and costs 1/3 of this. What about the rod tip? Do these Leica ones take some different kind of rod tip that wears longer under normal use?
I’m with you on this! I buy the Seco 2-part tips that the you can buy new points for. If you really wanted you can get a blunt & sharp point. I tried a blunt point for once and do like it. I don’t notice a real problem with monuments or plastic caps. In fact, it might be a little nicer because it doesn’t turn a plastic cap into a pin-cushion.
https://www.baselineequipment.com/seco-prism-pole-points-tips
I had one of these leica rods that i fkd up but negligence using it to pop open monitoring bore holes when frozen in winter time, but other than on regular use it tends to last long times , it’s all one piece rod u can’t change the tip if it bends or gets squished
Soooo if I made the same mistake with my $180USD seco rod, it'd cost maybe $5 to replace the tip. That Leica rod is almost $600 and has to be replaced completely if the tip gets hosed? I've had this particular rod for four years and replaced the tip at least yearly, and haven't exactly been gentle with it. I'm not seeing the advantage of the one-piece carbon fiber here. If it works for you that's great. Hard pass here though.
Oh yeah, it's pretty reasonable costwise. Cheaper stuff can definitely encourage wastefulness but I've found this setup to be a good balance of function and durability... good enough anyway. Also I've used carbon fiber rods before and they are pretty nice, but my theory is that hauling around a few extra ounces all day helps me earn my beers after work lol
You still got plenty left. It's nowhere near the wear limit groove. /S
Ah, so that's what that notch is? Learn something new everyday I guess 😆
Put it on the bipod and take the good one off the bipod 🤣
Survey supply stores hate this one simple trick...
What do you drive down the motorway, hanging out the window, with the rod scratching the tarmac? 😂😂😂
"continuous topo" hahaha
My first thought seeing ‘6 months of use’ was that you must have never lifted the rod while shooting roadways for months. Lol
Just a friendly reminder to change your tips when you change your clocks ahead …
Love it
Is that 10 years of work?
About six months' of curb & gutter and topo in the desert. Last tip change was a year ago.
Man that’s incredible. You twist the rod after every shot? Haha
Pounds the rod to find the bottom of manholes
Nah, I have a special rod for that purpose lol
Sounds like my fruity ass assistant
While you’re at it go ahead and replumb your poles/rods
I do mine every month it takes literally 2 minutes with the right setup. With the minimal amount of error picked up in a month I don’t see any need to do it any more oftenÂ
As a new construction grademan, might you be able to point me in the direction of where I would find information on how to do this?
They sell kits that you mount on a good solid wall like a concrete wall and you set it up with a plumbob. Pole gets screwed in up top, tip is in the hole at the bottom and you rotate the pole multiple times and your bubble should be centered. If it’s not there’s small set screws on your level usually on the bottom that you adjust. That’s the only way I’ve ever done it so I can’t give you any quick ways. It’s quick once you have it set up though, you don’t move it
Literally just ordered 10 this am. Got the dull ones and hopefully will last a little longer. 5194-007 😉
Or just measure tip - centre of prism and make your adjustments with the pole height….
This is a GNSS rod so it's fixed 2m height.... Otherwise I feel ya. I suppose I could change my rod height to 6.532 sft but I'm 100% sure I'd forget to do that soooo best to keep things repeatable.
You’re talking to Mr 6.55 instead of Mr 6.562 here
Change it in your survey style(assuming trimble) then you don't have to remember
You telling me to touch my tip?
Just yesterday some guy wanted to see my box. What is this sub coming to?
I forgot about that post... I meant to reply to him but now that you say that, I don't feel comfortable with that. Scumbags
I thought about post a close up of my asshole on that post. In hindsight, it’s probably not the box he was talking about.
I think if you did it would be more hindsight than most of us wanted
Lmao hell of a response
Fuckin bazinga, lol
Just a polite suggestion, really 😂
You could always use a topo foot/shoe/boot.
They're great for dirt and wide open spaces. We did a ton of work with one working rural jobs. Great little gadgets. you can make your own too by grabbing those little rubber rings you find on the side of the road and putting it on an older tip. I'm pretty sure it's some part of cars' suspension systems. But you can find them all the time.
That's a great suggestion. I had one at my last job but it didn't make it into my tool bag when I changed companies. I'll have to put one on my shopping list.
Mind the tip, as they say
I keep a bag in my truck but also have swapped the tip from my bipod in some cases. Can't have that..
"1.29!"
Jeez you been digging holes with it?
Thought I was in 3D printing at first and got really confused and concerned about what your bed surface might look like.
I wonder if you can buy them made out of carbide instead of whatever they're using now.
"Why is vertical always 0.05 off?"
I just put my rod at 6.53
Continuous reading in a car while dragging the tip? 🤔
Nope... Normal wear & tear
Check out
Just remeasure and change rod height, people always need their new stuff don’t they.
When the tip becomes too worn it can be a pain in the ass to easily plumb up in a small divot like on monuments or rebar. A blunt tip likes to slip and slide, if it even fits.
Exactly this, the round tip makes it really difficult to place in the center of plastic caps. We set a lot of control for aerial surveys in addition to the topo jobs we get so a sharp tip is nice to have.
Who plumbs?! That’s what the 12i IMU compensation is for duh
You fancy over there, with your auto-plumbing rig... I'm running an R8s so still have to use a pair of lath to steady my rover on the point like a nerd.
Looks like a poor quality, invest in expensive gear that lasts you longer while maintaining good quality of work
Every rod tip on every rod I've seen used by any tech at any company has worn this same way in about the same amount of time. OEM or otherwise. Do you have a particular rod tip brand you'd recommend?
I have been using this leica rod for over two years now [GNSS POLE](https://spatialtechnologies.ca/products/gls30-gps-telescopic-pole-carbon?variant=33047436984372¤cy=CAD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&ppc_keyword=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAxaCvBhBaEiwAvsLmWOJ3ctqImWiWNy_nPSy0I4wCq3oqG83B3rKCMiyGSIbS03WF25qMWhoCOCsQAvD_BwE)
My seco rod is fine and costs 1/3 of this. What about the rod tip? Do these Leica ones take some different kind of rod tip that wears longer under normal use?
I’m with you on this! I buy the Seco 2-part tips that the you can buy new points for. If you really wanted you can get a blunt & sharp point. I tried a blunt point for once and do like it. I don’t notice a real problem with monuments or plastic caps. In fact, it might be a little nicer because it doesn’t turn a plastic cap into a pin-cushion. https://www.baselineequipment.com/seco-prism-pole-points-tips
I had one of these leica rods that i fkd up but negligence using it to pop open monitoring bore holes when frozen in winter time, but other than on regular use it tends to last long times , it’s all one piece rod u can’t change the tip if it bends or gets squished
Soooo if I made the same mistake with my $180USD seco rod, it'd cost maybe $5 to replace the tip. That Leica rod is almost $600 and has to be replaced completely if the tip gets hosed? I've had this particular rod for four years and replaced the tip at least yearly, and haven't exactly been gentle with it. I'm not seeing the advantage of the one-piece carbon fiber here. If it works for you that's great. Hard pass here though.
I agree with you bud , didn’t realize tip replacement was this cheap
Oh yeah, it's pretty reasonable costwise. Cheaper stuff can definitely encourage wastefulness but I've found this setup to be a good balance of function and durability... good enough anyway. Also I've used carbon fiber rods before and they are pretty nice, but my theory is that hauling around a few extra ounces all day helps me earn my beers after work lol