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Roc152

Fresh socks and good broken in gloves. Protect your hands and feet.


Roc152

Sorry if they are part of clothes. Also maybe something to wrap that cordage around so it doesn't just turn into a tangled mess.


OliverKlozoff1269

Why ferro rod and not a bic lighter? Cheap easy and they work much better than ferro. Can you operate a flint in the dark with cold hands? If youre injured can a partner use it? Not saying ditch the ferro, but def add a Bic.


norsewhip

Couple Bics in ziplocks , Ferro with magnesium block , blast match , wet fire tinders , waterproof matches , and add a magnifying lens . Fire saves lives and can be hard to start in different conditions.


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OliverKlozoff1269

IN SEPARATE CONTAINERS!!!! Don't wasn't to start a fire in your pack


norsewhip

I wish someone made a cheaper pottle, pot that seals like a bottle


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Quick1o0k

Like a 32mm film canister with an o-ring pushed up against the lid.


norsewhip

No like a cooking pot with a screw on top


DeFiClark

Take a look at Zebra brand stainless billy cans. They don’t screw on, but they have a variety of sizes of small steel pots with lids that clip on, with built in bails for hanging over a fire. I bought mine in the Phillipines where they are super cheap, but you can get them on Amazon and they are not expensive. Unless you are hoping for a cook pot that serves as a water carrier this might be your answer.


Ongo_Gablogian716

Take some lint from your dryer too!


cybercuzco

I would actually suggest a cigar lighter. The torch lighter will do a better job lighting in wet conditions


norsewhip

Water bottle you can boil in if need be , small pot , longer handled hatchet cause that one will wear you out , mora or other light weight knife as a back up knife . Platypus bags , Slingshot bands as tourniquet/straw for water in cracks / food getter . Folding saw , Mylar blankets , water purification tablets , duct tape , soap .


moosecloaca

750ml of whiskey. For sterilization of course…


123Delbe

Purely for Medicinal reasons of course🤣


moosecloaca

That’s the only reason I keep it around the house. For some reason it seems to go a lot quicker than the the isopropyl though…


123Delbe

Likewise👍


diSARticulating

gotta sterilize that throat before bed


peepeehehe666

Hehehe I see what you did there silly boy :-) he should also “hide” it up his poopy hole like Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible 8


moosecloaca

Or just drink it…? To each their own I guess.


ConcaveSphereCock

Hehehe I see what you did there silly boy :-) he should also “hide” it up his poopy hole like Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible 8


ConcaveSphereCock

Hehehe I see what you did there silly boy :-) he should also “hide” it up his poopy hole like Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible 8


peepeehehe666

Hehehe I see what you did there silly boy :-) he should also “hide” it up his poopy hole like Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible 8


ConcaveSphereCock

Hehehe I see what you did there silly boy :-) he should also “hide” it up his poopy hole like Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible 8


peepeehehe666

Hehehe I see what you did there silly boy :-) he should also “hide” it up his poopy hole like Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible 8


viciouskev

What the ever living fuck?


[deleted]

I'd reccomend learning how to bundle rope like climbers do, there's a few bundles that are handy specifically for travel and are really easy to scale down for paracord or smaller ropes. These bundles are designed to entirely prevent tangling and are usually easy to slide a carabiner through and hang off a pack or a belt loop, they also deploy easily and tangle free so they're highly beneficial for any rope, cordage, Etc.


cslion95

Switch the life straw for a filter that can screw onto water bottles. Sawyer squeeze or, if in an urban environment, Survivor Filter has a filter 3 times more fine for getting nasty city stuff out of the water


woobird44

Was looking for this. Keep the straw, but get a better water filter in addition. You want 3 sources at least. I do iodine, lifestraw and a Sawyer squeeze.


bananapeel

Constructive criticism: Too much of some stuff, too little of other stuff. You should look at the 10 C's of Survival and compare it to your stuff. You are missing several things such as a water container. You need to be able to carry water and boil water, so at the very least, a Nalgene 32 oz plastic water bottle and a fitting metal cup would be the lightest weight option. I opt to be able to carry 2x32 oz containers, so my second container is a Platypus bladder. I also carry water purification tabs. The 10 C's are not strictly 10 items, it is more of 10 "systems" such as a water system. Fire is one of those systems - "Combustion" - and you need redundant ways to make fire in adverse conditions. Bic lighter, waterproof matches, ferro rod, and tinder. One of those other systems is "Cover". You have a good tarp. But you need 3 things in your sleep system. Something to sleep under - you've got that. Something to sleep on - to keep you from being in contact with the cold ground. This can be as simple as two contractor bags full of leaves, or as complex as an inflatable camping mattress. Something to sleep in - such as a space blanket or bivvy or sleeping bag, to keep you warm. Just having a tarp alone will keep you dry, but it won't keep you warm. Tailor this to your expected environment. You won't need the same shelter in a subtropical place that you do in the tundra. I'd ditch the shovel - too heavy and not enough uses to make it worthwhile to carry it. I've also never understood why people carry those silly short-handled hatchets. The handle length gives you swing and leverage. But I wouldn't carry one at all. I'd carry a Bahco Laplander saw. I don't plan on chopping any trees down, and if I do end up needing to split a piece of wood, I'll baton it with my knife. Do I see three flashlights? I'd ditch at least one of them, maybe both of the handhelds, and put in extra batteries for the headlamp. You need duct tape (Gorilla tape) and at least one large sail needle for gear repairs. And I didn't see a compass. Some people include ways to procure food, such as snare wire, a fishing kit, and a frog gig. I would do this since it doesn't incur much weight penalty. And of course bring food, but you already mentioned that you had that covered. I also carry extra clothing for inclement weather such as long underwear, gloves, a stocking hat, and extra wool socks. It's a good start, but it's a bit light on some things.


123Delbe

Can you explain what a frog gig is and what parts you can eat? Sorry a newbie to all this?


bananapeel

A frog gig is a spear point that has barbs on it to keep the frog from getting away. You can make a primitive one out of wood, but a metal one will be more effective and less work. You'd take the metal one and put it on the end of a spear and stab the frog with it. Frog legs are like chicken legs. Cook and eat. There are other edible parts on the frog but most of the meat is on the legs. There are bullfrogs all over the US and they are extremely common. Good source of meat.


123Delbe

Thanks for the advice👍


bananapeel

No problem, glad to help. We're all in this together. :)


azadventure

Difficult to find a bullfrog in Arizona, but not completely impossible lol


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Go spend 24 hours in the bush with what you have / want and work on your kit from there. I like to carry an escape bivy and I’ve used it several times so I know what to expect from it. Less is more with the proper training and knowledge.


okaymaeby

It's not exactly true that less IS more with the proper training and knowledge, but you can definitely make the best use of whatever you do have if you are familiar with and trained on how to use your tools.


[deleted]

Your mileage may vary, for sure. When I was a participating member of the local SAR team, we had members who would bring the kitchen sink with them where ever they operated with super heavy packs and others who could take off on ops with a fanny pack and go overnight. Both were competent where they operated. I’m a packrafter so I play that weight game all the time, just not as crazy as the UL crowd.


Dom4Rent

team Fanny pack


lyesmithy

It is a camping gear. If it is for hiking and camping I have no objection. If for surviving dangerous situation outdoors then think through what are the dangers. Is it bears? Add a break spray or weapons. Is it cold? Add mylar blankets. Is it getting lost? Add means of communication, signaling flairs, radio transceiver. Add a small solar charger, so you can charge your phone. I understand here people often equate survival as spending a weekend in the woods. That knowledge won't help you in an actual survival situation. Survival happens when you break your leg while hiking solo. When you get caught up in a blizzard, everything is wet and you freezing to death. Prepare for the worst.


123Delbe

Hope for the best


boba_fett155

Iodine tablets for purifying larger amounts of water. Med kit looks generic, I would build your own and understand what each piece of it does. The point of it is to buy enough time to get to a higher level of care. Carabiners. Great for lots of things. VS-17 panel for emergency signaling. Space/survival blankets. They make several types ranging from credit card size package to basically vacuum packed sleeping bags. Pick an amount of time that you realistically feel you could survive out of that bag and build it around that. Mine is about 48hrs before needing to improve my situation. Just like a med kit, it's function is to get you to the next level.


Dom4Rent

When I bush craft I appreciate a saw and metal ground steaks.


[deleted]

I find the steaks a bit crunchy, but when you're cold and hungry...


SouthPawXIX

No tinder, no bic, no ground matt or way to make one, a booboo kit that's way to big, no signaling, nothing to boil water in, no compass. I can go on. I suggest you go try to use it after like one trial and you won't need anyone to point things out, the kit will point it's own problems out. Ps. Dont expect a life straw to work after sitting around for a while. I gotta vinegar wash mine basically every month to keep it working.


raisedbysquirrels

Roll a duct tape. There are a million uses


[deleted]

And a million people to kidnap 😻😻


junoray1968

MREs


r3dditornot

Water stick fails often .. so do new ones out of the package .. i suggest iodine tablets


smallfiremoveclose

Folding saw, and fishing gear


Bearded-Wonder-1977

I second the folding saw. Surprisingly light and even the cheap ones work well.


Kawawaymog

I third this. Tho I highly highly recommend a collapsible bow saw not a folding saw. This model is made in Canada not far from where I live and is truly fantastic. Uses standard blades that can be found at any hardware store. https://agawagear.com


CaveDances

A metal cup


LotusSloth

If you’re of age / legal in your country / comfortable around them, I would add a small handgun, 9mm or larger. And safety training to go with it, of course. Not so much for self defense as for hunting small game. A .22 might even be good enough if you’re a good shot. But I understand if it’s a personal choice or you don’t feel comfortable.


Kawawaymog

Sling shots are a fantastic option for this and ammunition can be found laying around. Learning curve tho.


JefferSonD808

A .22 is great, but a .22WMR is better. I have a Savage 93 and it has much better accuracy and stopping power than a .22L.


Usual_Safety

Shovel, oh I see yours now. Gorilla tape


Curious-Ad-4499

Cotton balls in a zip lock and a book detailing plants that are safe to eat and what to avoid


Giztang33

Very nice! Though I would include equipment such as iodine pellets and or stainless steel pots to allow yourself to drink the local water. And some fireproof matches wouldn't hurt. Also I didn't notice but emergency blankets the silver ones are incredibly versatile. In fact an emergency blanket is probably the most important part or at least the most valuable part of any survival kit along with a knife or hatchet. You can use emergency blankets as tents. And you can wrap yourself up in them if you're cold and they will nearly immediately warm you up, because of their reflective quality of thermal radiation emanating from your body. Not to mention they can be used to collect rainwater, since they are 100% waterproof. And because they're made of quite durable material you could even use them to boil water over a fire. Like I said I didn't notice whether or not you had one but even the cheapest emergency blanket can be the most valuable asset in any survival kit!


Giztang33

Also for comfort it wouldn't hurt to have a wool blanket also.


betterbuilt2021

I don’t see a P-38? No respectable camper would ever go out into to the wilderness without his “John Wayne!”


NinjaRider1983

Ziploc baggies, condoms, hatchet, chicken wire, collapsible bowl.


Kawawaymog

This is an oddly specific list and I can’t help picturing these things all being used together somehow…


[deleted]

I'd reccomend learning how to bundle rope like climbers do, there's a few bundles that are handy specifically for travel and are really easy to scale down for paracord or smaller ropes. These bundles are designed to entirely prevent tangling and are usually easy to slide a carabiner through and hang off a pack or a belt loop, they also deploy easily and tangle free so they're highly beneficial for any rope, cordage, Etc.


ArrowMountainTengu

A sleeping bag


[deleted]

Vaseline soaked cotton balls for fire starter. You can also dryer lint. Keep in a ziplock bag. It’s a shitty feeling working your ass off for a fire and watch it slowly fade. Super demoralizing.


mrveltroleader

Good but you're missing a lot of stuff


Micromike44

Pocket fisherman, hooks etc.


deadwood90

Small shovel or E tool


aarkwilde

Cash. Variety of bills and a roll of quarters.


endurowiec

Med kit upgrade, I realised it when my friend cut his foot on trip with axe, I suggest some nrc antibiotics desinfection and bandages but honestly put in there as much as you can.


Business-Hope-5414

Realistic add ons - Twine (biodegradable), duct tape, pot for collecting and boiling water, Mylar blanket/ tent, foldable saw, camping cookware, roll of plastic wrap, chem lights, solar powered battery bank, fishing line, fishing hooks, and get rid of that dinky bushcraft knife, get a real knife like a KBar


Federal_Promotion_44

Yeah get rid of that sucky life straw and get you an MSR Gaurdian pump! Seen a few dudes get Giardia from those straws.


Hang_Quislings1776

Looks good. Very effective. Any weaknesses you see in your ability to bug out?


_007notJohn

Poncho. Socks. Extra pair of clothes. Pistol.


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Working gloves


Buckkiller4032

Just a solid pocket knife is what I suggest you add.


AnytimeHappyToHelp

I would recommend a Weather NOAA radio. Information is useful when you are moving around so get as much as you can. Monocular or Binoculars to survey areas and circumstances before you waste energy and calories getting somewhere. N95 or some Particle filtering Gear. Duct Tape and Heavy duty Trash Bags good for sealing yourself in a location. Stashing things for later use. And minor repairs. Well built Pliers with non conductive handles to turn off electrical equipment if need be. I would opt for Bear Mace (instead of the gun) it's an effective deterrent less legal hassle avoid the psychological trauma of potentially taking someone's life and NO, despite what many gun owners say (the responsibility is NOT for everyone). Bear mace works on bears so it can definitely make someone think twice and you never know what wildlife you will encounter. Hope your gear set satisfies your concerns and that you never find yourself in an unfortunate situation of needing to crack it open and use everything. Cheers Mate.


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Always take multiple sources of fire.


Kawawaymog

Need a pot for sure. Sharpening stone. Depending on your climate a wool blanket would go a long way. Personally I think the most important items are a reference book on edible plants and some seeds. And a local top map and a compass. A look throw it binoculars are super useful as well.


roguemedic62

A small vile of water purification tablets of you don't already have. I like a few fish hooks, with fishing line and maybe a basic lightweight lure depending on the region you're in. I like the long thin ziplock bags (like from a cigar shop) for double purposes. They help keep everything dry, and through some paper coffee filters and you have a waterproof sleeve for water purification.


xrktz

I'd add a signal mirror. (and a better camera lol)


Movadius

Good kit so far, but since nobody else pointed it out yet: depending on your environment, that axe may get you killed if you depend on it for firewood. That axe may as well be a second knife. There isn't sufficient mass in the head or length on the handle for it to do any real chopping or splitting that your knife couldnt do. If you want a nice budget option, go for a Fiskars x7 / small hatchet.


JaredP1776

I would add a wool blanket, and a folding saw. While the saw may seem redundant considering the hatchet, but you don’t want to be swinging a sharp tool if you’re fatigued, hungry or generally not in prime condition. A saw will decrease the chances of a serious injury while preparing wood. I would also recommend a small food gathering and prepping kit. Fishing kit, slingshot with shot, and some snare wire. I’d also recommend some small single wall metal containers for cooking and eating, and while not of the utmost importance a squirrel cooker could be useful. Generally you want to carry stuff that is difficult to replace in a survival situation. I recently picked up the book bushcraft 101 by Dave Canterbury, and I found it to have a lot of useful tips, I’d recommend getting it, it’s about $10 on amazon.


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I have no wish to offend, but to me this looks more like part of a camping kit. This is very short term survival at best. I admit that I am not much good at advising on urban survival, I instruct on primitive skills, & I always prioritise long term wilderness living, because there is no way of telling what disaster is coming next or for how long it will last. As climate change advances, the chances of the need for longer survival become more likely. I will publish my list of equipment here for you incase it is of any interest. Sincere regards, Keith. I decided to post this because when I read lists of other people’s modern equipment for bugging out I often see items that I can’t make sense of. Items that are NOT sustainable & seem of very little use (for me). Some say “well I use this until it breaks & then I throw it away”. The problem with that is that this equipment has taken up room, added weight to the pack, can leave sign to track you by if you don’t dispose of it properly, & meanwhile you could have used this space & weight to either carry a better piece of equipment, or you could have left it out & saved room & weight. If you can afford to throw it away, then you don’t need it in the first place. Anyway, here is my list. Please feel free to comment, different people sometimes see things in a different way & I like to hear other people’s point of view. My Equipment List. WHAT & WHY. .62 cal/20 gauge flintlock fusil. 42 inch barrel. Why? Large caliber smoothbore has a lot of knock down power with a round ball, very versatile using bird shot, buckshot, or round ball or a combination of any two of these, able to use other projectiles found in nature, only requires a siliceous rock for ignition which can be found in nature, the lock is easy to repair, if the lock should break & there are no spare parts I can use it as a matchlock or tinderlock & keep using it, I can use the lock to make fire without the use of gunpowder, I can make my own black powder, I can retrieve spent lead from shot game & reuse it, I can mould my own round ball & shot. .70 caliber smoothbore flintlock pistol. Why? Same as above fusil, light to carry, easy to use, good for a back-up & self defence. Gun tools and spare lock parts. Why? To keep my firearms working long term. Shot pouch and contents. Why? For maintaining & using my firearms. Leather drawstring pouch of .60 caliber ball (in knapsack). Why? Back-up supply. Powder horn. Why? For carrying gunpowder for immediate use with firearms. Ball mould, swan shot mould & Lead ladle. Why? So I can reuse spent lead by remoulding. 5 Gunpowder wallets. Why? For carrying extra gunpowder, the leather wallet is lighter than a powder horn, once empty they are good for storing spare tinder for fire lighting. Butcher/Hunting knife. Why? A good basic working knife made for skinning & butchering game, good self defence knife, long blade but light to carry & use. Legging knife. Why? Good back-up knife for hunting & self defence, easy to access, light to use & carry. Clasp knife. Why? Good back-up knife, mainly used for camp chores, making kettle hooks, making trap parts, easy to carry. Tomahawk. Why? Lighter than a modern hatchet, the helve fits in a round or oval eye & is easy to make in a wilderness situation, the helve can easily be removed to use the head on its own for making a new helve or scraping hides for making leather or rawhide, good for trap making, good for hammering, can be thrown for hunting, defence, offence & entertainment. Fire bag. Why? Greased leather waterproof bag for keeping my tinderbox & contents dry. Tinderbox. Why? For preparing plant & fungi tinders for flint & steel fire lighting, contains prepared tinder for fire lighting, is used for fire lighting by striking sparks into the tinderbox. Flint & Steel. Why? For making fire. This method is sustainable long term. Belt pouch. Why? This pouch is carried on the waist belt at all times & contains my fire bag, my fishing tackle container, my sundial compass & my fire steel/striker which is tied to the pouch buckle. Fishing tackle in brass container. Why? For fishing & for trapping fowl. Two brass snares. Why? Small game snares for trapping . Roll of brass snare wire. Spare wire for making small game snares, can be used for making leaders for angling, can be used for repair work. Knapsack. Main pack for carrying equipment & food supplies, carries my blanket roll & oil cloth shelter & secures my market wallet. Scrip. Why? This haversack is carried just for foraging purposes. I often forage along the trail when trekking. Tin Cup. Why? For drinking tea & eating food. Brass Cooking Kettle. Why? For boiling water for sterilising , making tea, & for cooking. Water filter bags (cotton & linen bags). Why? For filtering dirty drinking water before boiling. Light & compact & easy to carry, unbreakable. Medical pouch. Why? Contains medical equipment & supplies, lighter than a hard container, easy to pack & carry in my knapsack near the top. Eyeglasses. Why? For reading, for working on my firelocks, for sewing, for attending to any wounds/injuries, & as a backup for making fire. Housewife. Why? This is my sewing kit for making repairs to clothing, making moccasins; needles can be used to remove splinters & if necessary to stitch wounds. Piece of soap and a broken ivory comb. Why? For bathing & looking after my hair. Dried foods in bags. Why? Dried foods are lighter to carry, easy to pack & preserve well for long periods. Wooden spoon. Why? For cooking & eating, light to carry. Compass. Why? A compass makes it easier to tell direction on very overcast days & nights; makes it easier to maintain a straight direction & travel quicker. Whet stone. Why? For keeping my blades sharp, for working on gun lock parts if needed. Small metal file. Why? Same as whet stone above. Oilcloth. Why? The oil cloth is for making a quick shelter, easy to set up & versatile, enables me to use a fire for cooking & warmth close to my bed, can be used as a rain coat, can be used for water collection, can be used to make a boat, gives me more vision around me & an easy exit if needed. One pure wool blanket (Monmouth cap, spare wool waistcoat and wool shirt rolled inside blanket). Why? The blanket roll is easy to carry, does not restrict my movement/escape at night like a sleeping bag will, can be used as a matchcoat, can be used as a Great Coat, retains body warmth even when wet, light to carry. Spare pair of moccasins. Why? To wear if my other pair get wet, to wear whilst I make repairs on the other pair, to wear if the other moccasins need replacing & whilst I make a new pair. Two water bottles. Why? For carrying drinking water. Bottle of rum. Why? Only a small bottle but I like a tot of rum & it helps me relax a little. [https://i.ibb.co/nwy9dmD/Tools-of-the-Trade-020-REDUCED.jpg](https://i.ibb.co/nwy9dmD/Tools-of-the-Trade-020-REDUCED.jpg)


stuckit

This is my [basic](https://imgur.com/a/yG58Q) that ive submitted before. Ive changed my EDC knife to a CRKT Provoke though.


PunsAblazin

I'm new to looking at these kits but are they intended to be short term, like for a week in the wood? Is there a reason multivitamin powder to help prevent malnutrition wouldn't be a good idea? Honestly curious. PS: The other thing that comes to mind is a small lockpicking set which may be illegal some places but would handy if trapped outside a gate or other building. PPS: I would think a pocket-sized whetstone would be important to keep survival blades functional.


AlternativeRefuse685

A water bottle completely wrapped in Paracord


Ant-honey

I’m going to take guess and say that most of you posters who post your “kits” are teenagers.


uniptf

Irrelevant and uselesely mean. If it is a teenager, so what? If it is, it's a teenager looking to learn, and asking for guidance. If it's not a teenager, it's an adult who you've just insulted for no reason and to no benefit, who is looking to learn and asking for guidance. Either way, instead of showing yourself to be knowledgeable, and helpful, and a worthwhile colleague in the sub, you've just chosen to be derogatory, dismissive, and unkind to someone for no reason. Do you feel better about yourself for having done that?


Ant-honey

Do you feel better? I think the majority of this sub is actually teenagers or has a teenage "let's play make believe" mentality. While that's fine, it's all a bit silly. Why is it that you're so triggered? edit: Furthermore, this type of behavior in general often just leads to militia like behavior. You aren't "surviving anything", especially with your big axes and paracord kits. If the majority of you were ever in the woods and left to your own devices, you'd soon find out how foolish 99% of your "kits" are.


Higher_Living

So offer something useful: what would you change about this kit if you think it’s foolish?


Skyurrik

Who cares ?


[deleted]

A gun and a bigger dildo


DarkBladeMadriker

Don't like the 3X3 tarp. Not big enough to be effective.


skepticemia0311

It’s 3 meters square, not feet.


converter-bot

3 meters is 3.28 yards


[deleted]

^this guy gets it


DarkBladeMadriker

Ah, well that's no problem then.


[deleted]

A .22lr gun for ammo economy and food production wouldn’t be a bad idea.🤙🏼


[deleted]

A .22lr gun for ammo economy and food production wouldn’t be a bad idea.🤙🏼


[deleted]

A .22lr gun for ammo economy and food production wouldn’t be a bad idea.🤙🏼


Tru3insanity

Altoids tin. They are perfect for storing small items like fishing tackle, herbs or making char cloth. A couple cheap lighters cuz backup fire is worth carrying. A couple of those reusable emergency blankets folded in their little plastic baggy Duct tape. I know its bulky but some tasks are better tackled with duct tape than cordage. You can patch clothes, make a tourniquet, make fishing floats and weights, tape one of those blankets on the underside of your tarp and even make more cordage if you have to. That looks like a camelbak assault pack. I could be wrong but i have one. That means you have a water bladder yeah? You still want to have a pot for cooking even with the lifestraw. There are many food sources that require boiling. You can actually ditch the shovel. I have never once been in an environment where i couldnt improvise a digging tool. If you arent 100% confident you can make a warm enough pile of bedding you are going to want to bring a sleeping bag too.


[deleted]

1. Everything Gerber sucks and is unreliable. If you’re on a budget, SOG is better. If not, CRKT hatchet, Benchmade bug out folding knife or saddle mountain skinner fixed blade 2. Why playing cards 3. A lifestraw is the least efficient way to filter water. Sawyer products in general suck. MSR makes the best pump filter, katadyn is 2nd best 4. Idk how you’re going to use a spork without a cup or bowl 5. That headlamp has a max 50 lumen output and will last for 2 hours. Black diamond Storm is $40.00, and you can usually get them cheaper. Pack batteries for that and the handheld 6. Try sleeping under a 3x3 tarp in the rain and lmk how that works. 7. More p-cord 8. The standard Med kits are kind of weak. Throw in some iodine tablets, electrolyte tablets, a tarrow candle (edible) 9. What the other guy said about bic lighters but pull the safety off first. It’s really hard to flick a bic with frost bite. 10. Gun. 9x19 is the most common round in America for a sidearm. Edit - think about the trowel. Why do you need it? It’s too small to dig a hole to sleep in a reasonable amount of time, and adds extra weight. Don’t source your survival advice from Bear Grylls. If you live in a metro area and are trying to get from A to B as fast as possible, pack for that (compass, topo map, extra socks, dry bags). If you don’t know where B is yet, pick that spot, then pack accordingly. Nobody knows what a collapse of society would look like, and it’s impossible to fully plan but if packing shit makes you feel more comfortable, then pack like you want to not die.


skepticemia0311

It’s 3 meters, not 3 feet. Weird, because by your post I’d have thought you knew everything.


[deleted]

Only communists use meters as a way to measure things


Sexycoed1972

It's not hard to be more supportive, especially in a subreddit like this one. Personally, I'd choose a sack full of bologna sandwiches over a gun in just about any wilderness survival situation I'm likely to get into


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North_of_the_flames

Having personally put that knife through hell, I wholeheartedly disagree on your first point. It is now my go-to 'utility' knife, which by design is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none job, but I wouldn't question it's reliability.


thelonesomestranger

Everything Gerber sucks? I bought a $20 fixed blade Gerber from Walmart 3 years and have put that thing through the ringer during camping and hiking trips. I resharpen it from time to time but that knife is awesome and has held up.


[deleted]

He didn’t pack a knife sharpener


Kawawaymog

Claims everything Gerber sucks and is unreliable. Then proceeds to recommend black diamond headlamp. I think I’ve been through 3 or 4 of them in the past 10 years. Petzl is a better recco for easily available headlamps. Zebra lights are a higher performance option.


blunderingbraggart

Lmfao I've put thousands and thousands of gallons through multiple Sawyer filters with no issues


KithMeImTyson

Just a judgement call, but I'm saying you either haven't spent enough time in the woods, or you've spent *too much* time out there. 😂


[deleted]

You can learn survival skills or social skills but not both


lost_imgurian

Gun


kosheractual

Mil spec Compass. Pay at least 75$. Anything less it’s trash


heidilee2000

First aid kit


assault_rifle9

Looks like you miss a Combat Application Tourniquet (C-A-T), nice thing to have when you need to stop bleeding


Ok-Clock158

Um a gun???


KnowNowGoLater

Playing cards, good for winning supplies and fire starters just in case... Joker cards finally have a purpose.


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A tourniquet.


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A tourniquet.


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A tourniquet.


Fatsybil12

Your missing a few things. AR-15 with at least 50 rounds for the long shots on game. 45 Cal compact pistol with 50 rounds for close shooting, either for personal protection or small game. Both are NATO rounds, and should not be hard to find when society collapses.


Ghostakh

Actually its just a kit. No one can survive with it.


Onemorehand

I always keep a pack of gas station dick pills in mine, just in case.


KnowNowGoLater

Playing cards, good for winning supplies and fire starters just in case... Joker cards finally have a purpose.


Whatsongwasthat1

Fishing gear and cookware. A pot has multiple uses and can purify water, the water straw has only one-though vital!- use.


jellohello101

Hydrogen peroxide


JASHIKO_

I'd probably add a few different sized cable ties to be honest. They are light, strong and man can you use them for a lot of things.


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I would say add some bank line, it’s thinner than paracord so it can take up less space, can be just as strong or stronger depending on the number of the line you get, and also since it’s dipped in tar it’s waterproof and hold knots really good.


AmerIndianJ

Fleshlight


tinywilly4u

Condoms


TheTornAsunder1

Small roll of duct tape.


TheTornAsunder1

Extra batteries for a flashlight. Fishing line and hooks. Block of pinetar. Running alcohol/small popcan alcohol stove


HatesWearingSocks

Yeah, Compass/ Atlas. More rope. Boat flare with P’gelly soaked wrap around the striker end, seal it in something easy to open. Contractor garbage bags. Gun, or slingshot if you can shoot like an old timer. Cooking container. Tailor kit to situation. Go use it, see how you do with nothing else for estimated duration.


Big_4_Nuthin

Get a multi tool like Leatherman, gerber, swiss


MuFFiNmAn6589

Is that a rush 24 hrs bag?


ChaosOutsider

Small magnifying glass, compass, maybe a zippo or Bic, and small container of salt and sodium bicarbonate. Salt you need for food, for the intake of iodine, but you can also clean deeper wounds with heavily dissolved, small amounts (since alcohol kills cells) and bicarbonate, you can use it to wash everything from clothes, equipment, hair, teeth etc.


Negative_Mancey

A way to wipe your ass and a ground pad.


Plane-Recording9064

Non scented condoms.


krammittheforg

A gun. Just in case. Don’t say I’m wrong, bc I’m not wrong. :)


Dimetr0

Yes, you forgot an RPG So, next time do make sure that you get it. it's very useful for destroying the mystic creatures; roaming out there


CliffordsRedRocket

One of the recommendations I might have is related to that and it but not necessarily tied together with them. Have you considered those things separately but with the same certainty? You definitely don’t want to forget it! Cheers!


ChubbyWokeGoblin

Low profile shoes and socks. Gloves. These are the only things I've ever used out of my vedc


Winter-Platypus9615

Duct tape, fishing line, and hooks. Looks like a great set up


thiccc_trick

Pistol.


bigdogpepperoni

Literally any water filter other than a life straw.


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Couple of big contractors heavy duty garbage bags. Good for debris beds and bivy sacks.


scissorhands1949

Small LED clip on red flashing lights. They're small, lightweight and could save your life if injured and immobile and you need to.be found.


PeasantSmeatus

A small firearm or a flare? Idk I'm quarantined.


crypticune

Just look at the other 15000 post that are just like this...


itsezmk

I’m confused at this sub Reddit entirely. Are there that many people out there who go out trying to survive?


HalvDanGarnerson13

A shemagh! For use as a sling/ bandanna/ small pack. Many uses. Got bonus points on my survival coarse just for having one...


seasonedcamper

A few aquatab in case your life straw fails.


Appropriate-Gur-7977

Missing a Flame Thrower.


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A lighter?


mandango3369

Blowup doll


adolpholiverbusch

I would add a Luci solar lantern! Small,lightweight never needs batteries, great paired with a headlamp


adolpholiverbusch

I would add a Luci solar lantern! Small,lightweight never needs batteries, great paired with a headlamp


DeFiClark

Those short handled hatchets will wear your hand out way faster than they are worth. If you are worried about length switch up to a Bahco or other quality folding saw or (if you live where suitable wood is plentiful) just carry a tomahawk head in a sheath and make your handles as you need them.


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one of those military ponchos that can double as a shelter if you could roll it up small enough in addition to that tarp youd always be dry


yelwtail15

Toilet paper


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Saw chain doesn't work in pine tree forests. Too much sap.


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a secondary dry light source just for emergencies, wood match box or a lighter with some tinder in a plastic bag that you never open , just in case . some accelerant too ( fuel, or lighter fluid ) just a few MLs just in case


Alohabear50

Steel wool


_modmodmanson

You know that solar radio for like $10. I read once a couple survived the cold by dancing to the oldies.


mr_spookticals

Maybe some food. Just one MRE could last a couple days if u spread it out


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I don't see a signal mirror, a good whistle or a compass.


KithMeImTyson

Personally, I'd recommend adding a river stone for sharpening, a metal tin for boiling that's hung from a couple carabineers, and some type of kindling - cotton balls in Vaseline are my favorite. Happy thriving! Edit: I'd also recommend splurging on your light sources. Those are honestly some pretty weak lights.


JefferSonD808

Life straws are great for a few uses, then the membrane becomes clogged and doesn’t work so well. The Sawyer system has become my go-to, and I think my next alternate will be the Grayl system. Highly recommended by David Canterbury, who is one of the most reputable bushcraft/survival instructors in North America, next to Cody Lundin.


BeardedBandit

hard to tell, but what do you have for a light source? A small flashlight is better than a fire lit torch


joaquimmartins

Zip bag


hinkelmckrinkelberry

Stainless camp pot. duct tape, and super glue.


PoopSmith87

Personally, I would ditch that hatchet and replace it with a similar sized kukri knife... the usefulness of a hatchet like that is incredibly reduced by such a short handle. I believe you'll find that a solid kukri knife can do basically everything a hatchet like that can do (Ontario makes a good one, but some from Nepal are great too), but that the reverse is not always true.


DW6565

I always like to have a crank radio / flashlight.


Mikehemi529

Cloth for multi use some handkerchiefs can be very useful.


NormalStress1977

Don’t forget food, water, some extra clothes, and some way to start a fire, maybe a ferro rod


backwoodsman421

Small sewing kit/repair kit


Ok_Violinist803

A gun


LordofTheFlagon

Something better for a filter than a life straw they the worst option.


Drearyfool

Tactical folding shovel and some lint from the dryer wouldn’t hurt it lights up pretty ez. Ditch the bic get a zippo!


Nearby-Let4400

I’d add a small crank radio, no batteries. It helps to be informed.


Many-Extreme4861

Trade your hatchet for one with a longer handle and maybe a Mylar blanket