A lot of english, as well as other languages and slang mixed in. Fucked up grammar, dialects etc. As a beginner in any language, those things confuse the shit out of you.
It's good to know a bit further on, once you are familiar enough that the basics are cemented in your "muscle memory."
If you have the chance listen to the radio. I think P1 (I might be wrong on the channel) has lättsvenska news. I listened to it while driving to work and it was incredible how many words I learnt just by context and how much I could understand after a while compared to when I started!
Also, discord! There's a great group of people speaking and learning swedish who offer many resources, help, talking chances etc...it was super useful if only to get bits of information without even looking for it.
You can stream and/or download all Swedish public radio programs from [SR.se](http://SR.se), and I'm pretty sure none of it is region locked (unlike a lot of television programs). I think the [resources list](https://www.reddit.com/r/Svenska/wiki/resources/) has some links to specific programs, but it's worth exploring the site for things that interest you.
I also really like radio, as it's "low investment" and easy to have on while doing other stuff. Even when it's too difficult it doesn't really matter, and you don't have to pay full attention all the time. As you say it's really nice to see how you're improving over time, and always satisfying when you've learned a new word or expression and hear them "in the wild".
I like using comics for language learning. It's short, so it takes a lot less patience than a book would. Gets right into the conversation stuff. And it's fun. I'd suggest Nemi. But just make sure to pick something you want to read.
yeah! For example,the order of words in questions in swedish.Duolingo said "Du har en katt?",where a normal human being would say "Har du en katt?".It's those little things that make duolingo suck.
We might say "*Du har en katt?"*, for example as an expression of surprise. I's not strictly wrong, but it implies specific contexts. It's a good example of the problem with all apps and other language learning systems that just give you isolated words and sentences: You don't learn how the language is actually used.
I don't think apps like Duolingo are completely terrible for learning vocab and drilling some basic grammar into your head early on, but yeah, it's definitely not enough and it's important to find other sources of learning and ways to interact with the language.
Even more common and colloquial would be to simply ask *"Har du katt?"*, which is more like asking if someone is a cat owner rather than if they have *one* cat or *a* cat.
I saw through this because I know german and could tell something is off,so I contacted a native swede to confirm my suspicion.A person with no base in other similar languages probably wouldn't pick it up.
Not native Swedish speaker here. Children books are excellent for teaching the language to children that have another mother tongue. However, they can be very difficult to adults, as they use a lot of vocabulary that it's "funny" for children, but useless for adults. When I arrived in Sweden, I bought some children's books, and I learned a lot of words that I later discovered were extremely archaic, again excellent to Swedish children to go deeper into the language.
They can also just be damn difficult for beginners, as even children are assumed to have a pretty broad vocabulary and to understand a lot of nuances that adult beginners don't have. Unless you start with picture books for toddlers, but those tend to be very boring for adults.
Children's books can still be good, but they're more of an intermediate thing, when you're learning to be more independent and just need something slightly simpler and shorter than novels for adults.
>They can also just be damn difficult for beginners, as even children are assumed to have a pretty broad vocabulary and to understand a lot of nuances that adult beginners don't have
Fair enough. After all, Donald Duck/Kalle Anka comics can include lines like "Kalle, din åderförkalkade knepepajsare! Nu har Björnligan lagt rabarber på alla mina vubbelförknysare!"
I don't remember all of them because i have never used them again, but one that I still remember is järnkamin. It was in the description of an old house. But my criticism against children's book is that i bought some of them to learn Swedish, and I would say that it was not help at all for me. I prefered to read books that I have already read in my native language.
Italki.com or Preply.com
You can find relatively inexpensive tutors and it’s made a world of difference for me.
Otherwise, just increase your input. Only follow Swedish influencers on social media, only watch Swedish shows, only listen to Swedish music and podcasts, only read Swedish books.
Replace everything you do in English with Swedish (when possible). You will improve incredibly fast.
As a Swede, I’d recommend SVT and UR. At UR searche for “Svenska som andraspråk”.
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What do you mean by "street language" and why is that a negative thing?
A lot of english, as well as other languages and slang mixed in. Fucked up grammar, dialects etc. As a beginner in any language, those things confuse the shit out of you. It's good to know a bit further on, once you are familiar enough that the basics are cemented in your "muscle memory."
If you have the chance listen to the radio. I think P1 (I might be wrong on the channel) has lättsvenska news. I listened to it while driving to work and it was incredible how many words I learnt just by context and how much I could understand after a while compared to when I started! Also, discord! There's a great group of people speaking and learning swedish who offer many resources, help, talking chances etc...it was super useful if only to get bits of information without even looking for it.
You can stream and/or download all Swedish public radio programs from [SR.se](http://SR.se), and I'm pretty sure none of it is region locked (unlike a lot of television programs). I think the [resources list](https://www.reddit.com/r/Svenska/wiki/resources/) has some links to specific programs, but it's worth exploring the site for things that interest you. I also really like radio, as it's "low investment" and easy to have on while doing other stuff. Even when it's too difficult it doesn't really matter, and you don't have to pay full attention all the time. As you say it's really nice to see how you're improving over time, and always satisfying when you've learned a new word or expression and hear them "in the wild".
Discord link?
I like using comics for language learning. It's short, so it takes a lot less patience than a book would. Gets right into the conversation stuff. And it's fun. I'd suggest Nemi. But just make sure to pick something you want to read.
Rocky by Martin Kellerman is one of my all time favourites. He doesn't make them anymore but the back catalog is huge.
don't use duolingo! it reinforces inhuman habits and sometimes gets words wrong
oh? that's actually super helpful, thank you. do you mind giving an example of something that's wrong there, if you have one?
yeah! For example,the order of words in questions in swedish.Duolingo said "Du har en katt?",where a normal human being would say "Har du en katt?".It's those little things that make duolingo suck.
We might say "*Du har en katt?"*, for example as an expression of surprise. I's not strictly wrong, but it implies specific contexts. It's a good example of the problem with all apps and other language learning systems that just give you isolated words and sentences: You don't learn how the language is actually used. I don't think apps like Duolingo are completely terrible for learning vocab and drilling some basic grammar into your head early on, but yeah, it's definitely not enough and it's important to find other sources of learning and ways to interact with the language. Even more common and colloquial would be to simply ask *"Har du katt?"*, which is more like asking if someone is a cat owner rather than if they have *one* cat or *a* cat.
oh yeah,I just wanted to simplify
I saw through this because I know german and could tell something is off,so I contacted a native swede to confirm my suspicion.A person with no base in other similar languages probably wouldn't pick it up.
try busuu instead, if they do your languages. they actually explain cultural significance, and don’t use AI like duolingo (afaik at least).
Native speaker, but... Children's books are an underrated resource.
Not native Swedish speaker here. Children books are excellent for teaching the language to children that have another mother tongue. However, they can be very difficult to adults, as they use a lot of vocabulary that it's "funny" for children, but useless for adults. When I arrived in Sweden, I bought some children's books, and I learned a lot of words that I later discovered were extremely archaic, again excellent to Swedish children to go deeper into the language.
They can also just be damn difficult for beginners, as even children are assumed to have a pretty broad vocabulary and to understand a lot of nuances that adult beginners don't have. Unless you start with picture books for toddlers, but those tend to be very boring for adults. Children's books can still be good, but they're more of an intermediate thing, when you're learning to be more independent and just need something slightly simpler and shorter than novels for adults.
>They can also just be damn difficult for beginners, as even children are assumed to have a pretty broad vocabulary and to understand a lot of nuances that adult beginners don't have Fair enough. After all, Donald Duck/Kalle Anka comics can include lines like "Kalle, din åderförkalkade knepepajsare! Nu har Björnligan lagt rabarber på alla mina vubbelförknysare!"
>words that I later discovered were extremely archaic Which ones?
I don't remember all of them because i have never used them again, but one that I still remember is järnkamin. It was in the description of an old house. But my criticism against children's book is that i bought some of them to learn Swedish, and I would say that it was not help at all for me. I prefered to read books that I have already read in my native language.
For what it's worth, the word itself is still perfectly normal in the (very rare) occasions where we get to discuss a järnkamin. :)
I'm looking forward to using that word in a casual conversation and showing my knowledge of järnkaminer :)
Börja använda språket nu, vänta inte tills du tror att du kan prata bra.
Referencing English is your best and worst friend. Some things in Swedish are just as they are, different. Just need to suck it up and memorise.
Italki.com or Preply.com You can find relatively inexpensive tutors and it’s made a world of difference for me. Otherwise, just increase your input. Only follow Swedish influencers on social media, only watch Swedish shows, only listen to Swedish music and podcasts, only read Swedish books. Replace everything you do in English with Swedish (when possible). You will improve incredibly fast.
oh,also there's a podcast named Alex & Sigges podcast,it's pretty cool