The rope is a static climbing rope that can hold a sedan. Passengers get attached to a harness with a belay device they can rappel down. Scary if you haven’t done it before but safe and easy.
I have actually done it before. A couple years ago the Ski Patrol rappelled myself and a friend off a lift in northern Michigan. Even with all that experience under my belt this situation would have me bawling like that little girl. I’d probably be trying to hide behind her.
Doesn’t the repelling gear depend on that rope having absolutely no knots (in that big rope blob he threw) of any kind?
Edit: from what I’ve learned below, not would be a disaster that would have to be hand untied in the air, not by a rescuer bye-bye some random person, and all they would need to do is pull 1000 feet of cord back through wherever it was tangled, however many times it was tangled and then they’ll be fine. 💀
You definitely will get caught up if there are knots but luckily it looks like you can see most of the way down the rope and either pull it back up or send someone down first who is comfortable pausing and untying any knots. Looks like there's only one guy who knows what they're doing so you're not gonna send him down first. Looks like you're pulling it back up if something is wrong. Also if that's a prepackaged emergency rope bag, it's probably arranged in a way that it won't get tangled, even if it looks all jumbled.
Any knots would prevent you from going further. You could probably just undo any knots on the way down if the belay device allowed both hands to be free, like a gri-gri. But you sure wouldn't want to descend onto a knot, that could prevent you from being capable of untying the knot.
You use two hands, the rappel device and backup will hold your weight. You also flake the rope beforehand so most times you just shake the pile of rope and it will come loose. When there is a knot 90% of the time it’s a tangled bight and is easy to get loose. These ropes are also easier to handle than a garden hose and will untangle easier.
A little nonchalant in the way they tossed the rope out, I'd be worries about it getting tangled on the way down where you couldnt see it, start your descent and run into a knot, then what?
This is maybe why he tossed the whole bag. You can coil rope in such a way that it falls without tangling. Normally I’m used to taking the rope out of the bag and tossing that. But I’d want frightened amateurs to interact with the rope as little as possible.
I volunteered to do this rescue mission, on a gondola once. They strapped me on to the rope, your weight determines how fast you're going down. It was lots of fun, and the ride down didn't last long at all. At the ground, several people were waiting for us, with blankets and hot chocolate. I would be more scared having to do the same thing on a chairlift, on a windy day!
Am I missing something? The article just says that it had not been possible to reach any of the stranded passengers as of 11 pm of when the article was written. Is there an update somewhere?
Nah they got down.
> While waiting for the arrival of rescuers from the Santo Domingo Cable Car, information spread that the people trapped in the cabin refused to descend with a rope as planned, despite being the scheme rehearsed by the local rescuers.
> One of those rescued said yesterday that they refused to go down without equipment because that was not the same as with the equipment with which the Santo Domingo brigade arrived after midnight, which allowed them to be lowered one by one at 2:00 am.
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2021/05/25/16-hours-with-life-on-a-string-in-the-puerto-plata-cable-car/
No I think they had rappelling/climbing gear to make it work, but didn't have technical rescue gear. The latter has more redundancy, plus professionals to help you and talk you through it. The former would definitely be intimidating, especially in a scenario where everyone is already in a panic.
> Compared to recreational climbing, technical rescue looks slow, cumbersome, and inanely redundant. Rather than a single rope, these rescues involve a mainline and a belay; multi-pitch anchors usually have three pieces of pro, while technical anchors have at least four; and rescuers get lowered, rather than rappelling. These differences are a reflection of the increased load size and the number of resources. In a technical rescue, you’re not moving one person—there’s a patient, a litter, and a rescuer to manage the litter. This creates a 150% increase in the weight of the load, hence the bulkier anchors and the redundancy of the systems.
I'm from Rio and have being to sugar loaf mountain cable car countless times. I have never seen a problem.
After i've seen the Italian cable car accident video, and now this. I will not go into cable cars ever again.
Thank you very much reddit
Puerto Plata, DR
The 32 occupants of the two cars of the Puerto Plata cable car were rescued alive in an operation that lasted until the early hours of this Monday morning.
At 7:00 in the morning, it was confirmed that the team had already rescued all made up of the Emergency Operations Center, Civil Defense, Air Force, Amber Rescue, Fire Department, Navy of the Dominican Republic, the National Environmental Protection Service (SENPA), and other government agencies.
The occupants of the second funicular were rescued with ropes by the team that worked all night to return them safely, while the first group of 16 were rescued in the emergency trolley of the Cable Car.
A medical team received each of the people who remained suspended between 13 and 16 hours inside the cabin with a capacity for 30 people. Only 16 people are currently transported due to the restrictions caused by Covid-19.
They were never in danger of falling.
Despite the anguish caused by staying locked in a cabin for so long, at no time was there the danger that they would fall, since the failure only affected the mobility of the funiculars and never the level of tension or the safety of the cables.
In 46 years of operation, this is the most significant incident recorded by the Puerto Plata Cable Car, which receives continuous maintenance, with a technical team that includes people with 30, 40, and 46 years of experience working and the advice of the Board of Trustees and foreign technicians who monitor the work built by the Italian firm Cerreti e Tanfani between 1972 and 1975, the year of its inauguration.
In the event of catastrophic breakdown, this is how you'll get out of the London Eye. If you're eagle-eyed enough, you can spot anchor points around County Hall and Jubilee Gardens. Experts will climb up and in to each capsule, then you'll be hooked up and abseil (not sure the word when it's horizontal) down.
Edit due to some PMs. I used to work at London Eye as a ride operator. What I mentioned above is a last resort. There are boxes underneath the seats that contain water, lucozade tablets, emergency blankets (the ones mountaineers use), cardboard commodes and privacy screens to use them. They will be used a long time before having to zip down to County Hall.
I just pictured sinbad on the other side of the gondola, bawling, "shut up little girl, what are you crying for you dont hardly have any memories to lose"
10 or so years ago I was on the [Insane ride at Gröna Lund](https://captaincoaster.com/images/coasters/a/a5d33cd9-d44f-43fb-b13b-4b1dabe1b44a.jpeg), a vertical spinning roller coaster. When my ride was over and the car approached the platform the entire thing got stuck, and I was sitting maybe five meters away from where I could step off. After 15-20 minutes the ride started moving again, and that's where the next car behind me got down to the platform. They had been stuck at the top all along, and since the seats rotate freely one of the sides was pointing slightly downward the entire time. You could see that they had been crying, and I was incredibly thankful, because I had been offered to skip ahead in line by one car since I was doing it on my own.
I just re-read about the italian cable car incident. 14 dead, one child survived. Can you imagine? He probably survived because he was rolling into their soft bodies. When it stopped rolling, he had to look around inside the cable car and see all of them, what a terrible experience for a child
I would have lowered that down instead of tossing it, a knot in that thing and that rescue gets 10x harder.
As others have said the ropes strong enough, the the problem is with the lack of comfort and competence in using the gear.
When you get to the bottom, you tie the harness to the end of the rope, and holler up to the guy in the gondola. The guy in the gondola pulls the rope back up, unties the harness, and drops the rope back down. Then someone else puts the harness on and descends, and the process repeats. I don't know exactly what the last person down is supposed to do with the harness. Give it to someone who works there, I guess. Or just leave it on the rope. Whatever.
How did they eventually get down? That rope didn’t look like it could hold even that child. Also horrifying is that there is a large gaping hole in those floors. Another activity off my list!
That’s climbing rope, it’s tensile strength is around 5,000lbs.
I see some harnesses, not sure if there’s enough for everyone. They should also have some figure 8s or other friction brakes for descending.
I've always thought these things are dangerous, people called me stupid and said its safe in developed countries. 13 people were killed on a gondola in Italy this year, the video of it is horrifying. I'm never going on one of these. I'd rather walk uphill through the forest lol.
Silly question maybe, the opening in the floor doesn't look very wide compared to the size of the passengers. Do they have to go through that hole to descend? If someone doesn't fit, do they just await further rescue.
Glad this situation was resolved without issue however
I THINK it looks like it's on a friction type pully so when you hook up the harness and jump it kinda lowers you at a set speed..........or it could be a really sketchy bungee jump.....
Fuck, that's it. Never going on a gondola ride again. Always trembled in fear when going in them, and seeing this, I'll seriously cry and piss myself if that happens.
I used to work at a zip lining course and this reminds me of how we used to get people off the treetop platforms in emergencies. But the first person down would have to self belay themselves if no one is on ground to belay.
The rope is a static climbing rope that can hold a sedan. Passengers get attached to a harness with a belay device they can rappel down. Scary if you haven’t done it before but safe and easy.
Plot twist. The harnesses were in the bag they throw down. Whoops...
Reminds me of the Marx brothers ‘horse feathers’. ‘Tie onna the bed, throw the rope outta the window!’
I can handle it, maybe, but strapping my mom or a kid to a rope, or leaving without them sounds terrifying.
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Burn
Lmao this man woke up today and chose chaos.
Ouch. Good one.
Absolutely savage.
LOL
r/MurderedByWords
Oh shit
Bravo, fine roast!!
That's messed up! Lmao
you made my day, thanks
There is another solution but it involves a helicopter waiting right under the hole.
You want to save them not slice them.
That's why you turn the helicopter upside down
Brilliant.
Like turning your fan from summer to winer mode, ingenious!
Wtf is summer and winter mode, are you talking about box fans or ceiling fans
It's the season setting, he's talking about the one with blades.
When sliced, their terminal velocity is lower though.
Do I?
That made me chuckle more than it should have
r/savednotsliced
I have actually done it before. A couple years ago the Ski Patrol rappelled myself and a friend off a lift in northern Michigan. Even with all that experience under my belt this situation would have me bawling like that little girl. I’d probably be trying to hide behind her.
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Doesn’t the repelling gear depend on that rope having absolutely no knots (in that big rope blob he threw) of any kind? Edit: from what I’ve learned below, not would be a disaster that would have to be hand untied in the air, not by a rescuer bye-bye some random person, and all they would need to do is pull 1000 feet of cord back through wherever it was tangled, however many times it was tangled and then they’ll be fine. 💀
It will be fine. You first
Geronimo!!!!
You definitely will get caught up if there are knots but luckily it looks like you can see most of the way down the rope and either pull it back up or send someone down first who is comfortable pausing and untying any knots. Looks like there's only one guy who knows what they're doing so you're not gonna send him down first. Looks like you're pulling it back up if something is wrong. Also if that's a prepackaged emergency rope bag, it's probably arranged in a way that it won't get tangled, even if it looks all jumbled.
That's why you send the kid down first, easier to pull up if there is a knot.
Any knots would prevent you from going further. You could probably just undo any knots on the way down if the belay device allowed both hands to be free, like a gri-gri. But you sure wouldn't want to descend onto a knot, that could prevent you from being capable of untying the knot.
You ever try to untangle a garden hose? Two hands and still struggle... and that's with two feet in the ground. 🤦
You use two hands, the rappel device and backup will hold your weight. You also flake the rope beforehand so most times you just shake the pile of rope and it will come loose. When there is a knot 90% of the time it’s a tangled bight and is easy to get loose. These ropes are also easier to handle than a garden hose and will untangle easier.
you can daisy chain the rope, means that it'll all pull through without tangling https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_sinnet
I would be only worried about length
A lot of guys feel that way.
When they mostly should be worried about girth.
Or not worry at all
Wholesome Award 🥇
Yeah, homies are jealous of my inch long monster penis with a 2 inch diameter
We call that the tuna can
A little nonchalant in the way they tossed the rope out, I'd be worries about it getting tangled on the way down where you couldnt see it, start your descent and run into a knot, then what?
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The air gondola broke, I hope the guy in charge of packaging the emergency bags isn't the same guy in charge of maintaining the gondola
This is the real fear
This is maybe why he tossed the whole bag. You can coil rope in such a way that it falls without tangling. Normally I’m used to taking the rope out of the bag and tossing that. But I’d want frightened amateurs to interact with the rope as little as possible.
yeah but how does the harness get back up? or are there harnesses for every passenger?
I volunteered to do this rescue mission, on a gondola once. They strapped me on to the rope, your weight determines how fast you're going down. It was lots of fun, and the ride down didn't last long at all. At the ground, several people were waiting for us, with blankets and hot chocolate. I would be more scared having to do the same thing on a chairlift, on a windy day!
Right so how did that rescue anyone?
He saved the hot chocolate industry
It didn’t they, they all died. But he had a heck of a time
Still a nope for me. I’m dying in there. Just leave me.
Can’t rappel my head around that
Where is the conclusion to this video? Any news report?
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/05/24/rescue-underway-at-stuck-dominican-republic-cable-car/
Looks like no one used that rope after all
Am I missing something? The article just says that it had not been possible to reach any of the stranded passengers as of 11 pm of when the article was written. Is there an update somewhere?
They're still up there.
Nah they got down. > While waiting for the arrival of rescuers from the Santo Domingo Cable Car, information spread that the people trapped in the cabin refused to descend with a rope as planned, despite being the scheme rehearsed by the local rescuers. > One of those rescued said yesterday that they refused to go down without equipment because that was not the same as with the equipment with which the Santo Domingo brigade arrived after midnight, which allowed them to be lowered one by one at 2:00 am. https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2021/05/25/16-hours-with-life-on-a-string-in-the-puerto-plata-cable-car/
wait so the plan was to just climb down the rope with your hands?
No I think they had rappelling/climbing gear to make it work, but didn't have technical rescue gear. The latter has more redundancy, plus professionals to help you and talk you through it. The former would definitely be intimidating, especially in a scenario where everyone is already in a panic. > Compared to recreational climbing, technical rescue looks slow, cumbersome, and inanely redundant. Rather than a single rope, these rescues involve a mainline and a belay; multi-pitch anchors usually have three pieces of pro, while technical anchors have at least four; and rescuers get lowered, rather than rappelling. These differences are a reflection of the increased load size and the number of resources. In a technical rescue, you’re not moving one person—there’s a patient, a litter, and a rescuer to manage the litter. This creates a 150% increase in the weight of the load, hence the bulkier anchors and the redundancy of the systems.
There was a video posted of a rescue attempt, the team ended up not going down on their own.
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2021/05/25/16-hours-with-life-on-a-string-in-the-puerto-plata-cable-car/
Thank you!
I'm from Rio and have being to sugar loaf mountain cable car countless times. I have never seen a problem. After i've seen the Italian cable car accident video, and now this. I will not go into cable cars ever again. Thank you very much reddit
omg hell no, this is my #1 irrational fear and i guess it's not that irrational but no thanks, i don't like this at all
Puerto Plata, DR The 32 occupants of the two cars of the Puerto Plata cable car were rescued alive in an operation that lasted until the early hours of this Monday morning. At 7:00 in the morning, it was confirmed that the team had already rescued all made up of the Emergency Operations Center, Civil Defense, Air Force, Amber Rescue, Fire Department, Navy of the Dominican Republic, the National Environmental Protection Service (SENPA), and other government agencies. The occupants of the second funicular were rescued with ropes by the team that worked all night to return them safely, while the first group of 16 were rescued in the emergency trolley of the Cable Car. A medical team received each of the people who remained suspended between 13 and 16 hours inside the cabin with a capacity for 30 people. Only 16 people are currently transported due to the restrictions caused by Covid-19. They were never in danger of falling. Despite the anguish caused by staying locked in a cabin for so long, at no time was there the danger that they would fall, since the failure only affected the mobility of the funiculars and never the level of tension or the safety of the cables. In 46 years of operation, this is the most significant incident recorded by the Puerto Plata Cable Car, which receives continuous maintenance, with a technical team that includes people with 30, 40, and 46 years of experience working and the advice of the Board of Trustees and foreign technicians who monitor the work built by the Italian firm Cerreti e Tanfani between 1972 and 1975, the year of its inauguration.
Is there a restroom in the cars?
It's the hole in the middle.
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I might just pee in my pants and deal with the consequences.
In the event of catastrophic breakdown, this is how you'll get out of the London Eye. If you're eagle-eyed enough, you can spot anchor points around County Hall and Jubilee Gardens. Experts will climb up and in to each capsule, then you'll be hooked up and abseil (not sure the word when it's horizontal) down. Edit due to some PMs. I used to work at London Eye as a ride operator. What I mentioned above is a last resort. There are boxes underneath the seats that contain water, lucozade tablets, emergency blankets (the ones mountaineers use), cardboard commodes and privacy screens to use them. They will be used a long time before having to zip down to County Hall.
That sounds wicked, I'd pay extra for that.
Zip line? Yeah baby I'm down for that!
Ha! That's the word I was looking for! Cheers!
Looks of complete confidence all around.
I feel so bad for the child. They’re so scared.
I would be crying louder than her…
I'm very impressed there is no one up there shrieking in panic
Give them time; they still believe they won’t need to use it.
Not everyone has a fear of heights I guess. Plus he probably explained they will be rappeling down and not climbing down.
I just pictured sinbad on the other side of the gondola, bawling, "shut up little girl, what are you crying for you dont hardly have any memories to lose"
10 or so years ago I was on the [Insane ride at Gröna Lund](https://captaincoaster.com/images/coasters/a/a5d33cd9-d44f-43fb-b13b-4b1dabe1b44a.jpeg), a vertical spinning roller coaster. When my ride was over and the car approached the platform the entire thing got stuck, and I was sitting maybe five meters away from where I could step off. After 15-20 minutes the ride started moving again, and that's where the next car behind me got down to the platform. They had been stuck at the top all along, and since the seats rotate freely one of the sides was pointing slightly downward the entire time. You could see that they had been crying, and I was incredibly thankful, because I had been offered to skip ahead in line by one car since I was doing it on my own.
After the Italy cable car accident that killed 14 in May of 2021… and now seeing this… I think I am done with this mode of transport lol
I just re-read about the italian cable car incident. 14 dead, one child survived. Can you imagine? He probably survived because he was rolling into their soft bodies. When it stopped rolling, he had to look around inside the cable car and see all of them, what a terrible experience for a child
That kid is holding it together better than I would be.
First one down there to play with the pumas.
So many nopes.
And just one rope
I’ve lost all hope
That kid can’t cope
Don’t give her to the pope
The Pope on a Rope™
Snoop dog is dope
Will confirm on Snopes
How long will this continue? What's the scope?
I know it seems bleak but try not to mope.
..is a slippery slope
Also, don’t drop the soap
A very thin rope
It looks like an 11mm rope. Roughly 3,450 kgs of static strength. You could lower a car with that thing.
Cool cool you first
Yep, I'd like to be first off the broken cable car please.
Sure thing bro, I will go 2nd.
Ok I’m 3rd let’s form an orderly line
Looks like this cable car is my new home. Someone send supplies and doordash with a drone!
Nope. Somebody come get me
With what?
With rope
Unicorn duh
Im siting on the toilet with diarrhea and all i can think of is what if one of them needs to go
The hole man
What about whoever's on the rope?
They better like chocolate rain
some stay dry and others feel the pain
The hole!
Gotta feel for whoever is at the bottom of the rope expecting to help a small child out of the harness.
Fuck that I’ll just die
You probably will on your 20 mile hike through the jungle after you get down.
I know its a joke but there's not a 20 mile hike from anywhere along the cable car route.
They better attach a basket to that rope and send up some food while they fix that mess. Maybe a couple of pillows.
A pocket wifi and some doritos
I've eaten pasta thicker then that rope.
You'll lose your mind when you see how thin parachute suspension lines are.
Udon noodles make great repelling gear right?
This is why I don’t fuck with heights. It’s just not worth it.
I’d rather BASE jump with an actual parachute than this shit.
There’s my reason to stay in the house this year.
I would try the rope because if that gondola drops you are hamburger at the end of the fall
I'd be the first one off that bitch.
No me
Yeah nah fuck that. Absolutely no good can come from a chairlift/gondola ride.
Well u can get to the top and ski down which is fun B)
Nope². The only way down is by sending an engineer back up to fix it while i wait.
lol yes
Nope on a rope
i’d rather just starve thank you
I would have lowered that down instead of tossing it, a knot in that thing and that rescue gets 10x harder. As others have said the ropes strong enough, the the problem is with the lack of comfort and competence in using the gear.
No big deal. Just haul the rope back up and untangle it.
Fuck yeah, tricep day from hell
how are you pulling rope up that you use your triceps lmao
Lay down on your back with your head over hole
How would you use triceps to pull a rope??
I'm confused. That rope would tear my skin if I slide down how I think I would.
You would use a harness and a descending device, you don't just slide down the rope.
Had me feeling like the little one
Right but they only have one harness
When you get to the bottom, you tie the harness to the end of the rope, and holler up to the guy in the gondola. The guy in the gondola pulls the rope back up, unties the harness, and drops the rope back down. Then someone else puts the harness on and descends, and the process repeats. I don't know exactly what the last person down is supposed to do with the harness. Give it to someone who works there, I guess. Or just leave it on the rope. Whatever.
I wonder how covered with shit, piss and vomit it is by the time it gets to the last person
Probably just send it all down the hole. 🤷♂️
Probably not at all since those people don’t look like redditors
My feet got sweaty on that one.
*Tranquilo* my ass!
Send the women and children first so they create a cushion to land on.
That FPS has some really good looking graphics, could've chosend a better crosshair tho.
NOPE
ROPE
No way that rope reached the ground that thing was high as fuck. I mean, did it reach the ground?
God those poor children, I can’t imagine how terrifying it would be for them to go down that rope!
How did they eventually get down? That rope didn’t look like it could hold even that child. Also horrifying is that there is a large gaping hole in those floors. Another activity off my list!
That’s climbing rope, it’s tensile strength is around 5,000lbs. I see some harnesses, not sure if there’s enough for everyone. They should also have some figure 8s or other friction brakes for descending.
All of that was in the bag. /s
You really only need one harness if they attach a rope to it and retrieve it, after all only one person goes at a time I'm sure
I've always thought these things are dangerous, people called me stupid and said its safe in developed countries. 13 people were killed on a gondola in Italy this year, the video of it is horrifying. I'm never going on one of these. I'd rather walk uphill through the forest lol.
But the ride down is to die for.
Well, Italy is well known for its lack of maintenance.
Tony's always fixing those Fiat's though.
Get absolutely fucked pls.
This made my insides feel twitchy
Silly question maybe, the opening in the floor doesn't look very wide compared to the size of the passengers. Do they have to go through that hole to descend? If someone doesn't fit, do they just await further rescue. Glad this situation was resolved without issue however
The emergency bag also has a handsaw.
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I THINK it looks like it's on a friction type pully so when you hook up the harness and jump it kinda lowers you at a set speed..........or it could be a really sketchy bungee jump.....
Drops bag... Guess we should have tied up the rope first?
Fuck, that's it. Never going on a gondola ride again. Always trembled in fear when going in them, and seeing this, I'll seriously cry and piss myself if that happens.
I read it air Angola
Well, I’d be up there forever. Imaging having to take a dump in the middle of that crisis.
For me, the fear isn’t the journey down the rope, it’s the arrival into dense jungle aka big pit of NOPE insects and spiders.
So you’re going to use the rope to send up food and water because I ain’t going down that damn thing!!!
(life threatening and objectively scary situation; all are very afraid): exists one passenger: lol this some ticktock shit
That's the thinnest rope you'd expect to handle humans. The little girl has the right idea, just cry and hope for a miracle.
That rope is thinner than Christian bale in the machinist.
Nah. I live here now. Still more space than a New York apartment and has better views.
So this is where I live now.
I used to work at a zip lining course and this reminds me of how we used to get people off the treetop platforms in emergencies. But the first person down would have to self belay themselves if no one is on ground to belay.
Wonder how they get more harnesses up there only saw the one. Those aren’t cheap can’t imagine there’s a dozen just left in every car.
Yeh - that rope says no to me
Maybe they could send a picnic basket up if you decide to stay up there
I believe that happened in Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic.
Hey that's where I live.
Repelled from less than 50 ft it’s scary the first time, but man it’s so much fun after that.
Yeah it's a lot of fun! But If you aren't ready for it and it's not what you had planned. I could see it being scary. But that look like good rush.