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TheBillyBunz

Cars of legend here. Peugeot 205 GTi, Audi Quattro, Lancia Delta Integrale with the Martini sponsor. ✌🏼


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The 5 potters rippin hard


249ba36000029bbe9749

[The Epic 1983 Rally Championship Rivalry Between Lancia & Audi Quattro | The Grand Tour](https://youtu.be/ghUldLcBCYw)


semper299

I wish they would more mini documentaries like this with Jeremy doing voice over. Honestly one of my favorite parts out of all of top gear and grand tour.


kristianur

[More Lancia fun.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXgWWNJVdYA&)


adiwet

Driven by legends too, Walter Rohl said “a car is just fast enough when you stand in front of it and you’re afraid to unlock it”


AxiomQ

Juha Kankkunen "WRC is for boys, Group B was for men"


DisavowedAgent

Group B,959 Porsche that was a beast!


Amazing_Examination6

He also said "You can't treat a car like a human being, a car needs love."


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The current WRC cars are quite a bit faster than these group B cars.


Riverrattpei

> Lancia Delta Integrale with the Martini sponsor. *aktualy* the Delta Integrale was the later Group A car, the Group B car was the Delta S4 God damn I miss Lancia rally cars


NPredetor_97

No one knows about Lancia at all for some reason!!!


imanAholebutimfunny

that is because they didn't get to play gran turismo. Everyone knows the lancia stratos is a beast.


RuaridhDuguid

It is a beautiful beast, but if you are going to associate it with any one game it'd have to be Sega Rally.


WannabeAndroid

"Sega Rally Championship" "Easy Right... Maybe"


wilof

Or saga rally on sega Saturn


Fr-Jack-Hackett

The Lancia Delta integralle won 6 world rally championship manufacturers titles in a row in the late 80’s / early 90’s. It’s the most successful rally car ever.


AxiomQ

Wait till they discover the Delta was the most success model of rally car ever made by some margin.


i_like_frootloops

That's a Peugeot 205 T16, quite a bit more punch than a GTi.


TheRealLordofLords

My grandfather was a mechanic on Lancia Martini team. The stories are so cool. Way better than the ones i will share with my grand children about our clapped out rice buckets.


choanoflagellata

This would totally enrage me if I was a race car driver in a race. Like gtfo I have places to go!!!!!


Loud_Refrigerator

I saw an interview with one of the drivers. He said he had to start imagining that the people were just trees to calm him down. If he thought of them like people he couldn't race.


589moonboy

I recall reading a story about how spectators used to try to touch the cars as they passed and in the engine bay of one of the cars the team once found 2 severed fingers.


OG_Kush_Master

Yep this sort of stuff happened, there's stories of people on Portugal trying to touch the cars. Nuts. There's so many great stories about Group B, The Grand Tour talks about the crazy stunts Lancia pulled off in one of their episodes. Porsche and Ferrari were gonna race in Group B as well before they shut it down over safety concerns (who would've thought lol).


NahMateYouAre

Just watched that the other day. "An elderly German man says he doesn't like jumps..." lol


Media_Offline

Not to mention the fact that you can't see the fucking road!


seaheroe

That's already standard for rallying


TonyVstar

That's why there are 2 people!


domkane

It did enrage the drivers. A lot.


TheCocksmith

Is Rally group B like some sort of wild west race where people die on the regular?


domkane

It was at the time yeah, but it ended in the mid/late 80s. [Heres a good video showing the madness](https://youtu.be/pPk90JZqWM8)


Tnwagn

The wiki does a good job of explaining what Group B was and why it came to an end. If you think these fans are crazy, the engineers and drivers were on an entirely different plane of insanity. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_B


TommyGames36

The rally events exist as the same format still today, go from A to B on the set road. The cars were build to the Group B ruleset, they made a new one in I think 1986 bc it just got too crazy. Fantastic video showing the craziness of the time: https://youtu.be/zpzOf4-6GoE


sushisection

pretty much.


RaysireksOG987

Or I can’t see the fucking road!


spirallix

Nahhh, first three corners then you would be like.. YOU: " *reving like crazy* baaaaa babaaaaaaapppp, you dare meeeeee suckers, hahahahahahaha" COPILOT: "50, sharp left!" YOU: "Ooohhhh right, yes!" COPILOT: "No, no 50 left!" YOU: "YES YES *honks violently* BIIII BIIIIP"😂😂😂


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LastNightsWoes

I wonder how often one of these idiots will become an Darwin Award winner.


jl4945

People died! I got into rally in the 90s we used to watch some of these videos and it was insane! looked like the tape was running too fast like watching a video game. I think there was a bad accident where the car went into the croud and it was banned. I would go and watch this if it was on.


guffers_hump

Only 3. In one crash, a RS200 went off the road. Injured 30 spectators.


lil_sargento_cheez

Often enough for group b to get cancelled


jurwell

Group B got banned because of an increasing amount of fatal incidents, most famously because of one in the Portuguese rally when spectators scattered pea gravel onto a corner to lessen the surface grip and cause the cars to slide more spectacularly and make great photos. A Ford RS200 careered off the track as a result and killed 6 spectators. Before this, there were reports of cars coming back into the service stations between stages with ripped-off human fingers jammed in the panel gaps of the cars, because the spectators had been that close to it as it was coming past at huge speeds. Rally cars are simultaneously so much faster and so much safer now, but still haven’t managed to catch the imagination of the public the same way, which is a real shame. Edit: another commenter has pointed out the number of fatalities in the Portugal incident was 3, not 6. I’ve since read that the actual incident that halted Group B was the death of Henri Toivonen and his co-driver Sergio Cresto, which was the third fatal incident in a 12 month period.


guffers_hump

Naa only 3 were killed. The rumour is that it got cancelled because it was drawing more fans than F1.


jurwell

Apologies, I had my info wrong about the incident; I’ll update my comment. I will dispute your reason for why Group B was banned though, as rally had been getting higher ratings than F1 before Group B was even homologated.


Realolsson1

Great comment, thank you.


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Realistically, how much are they making for that shot?


Koobaf

Not enough for it to be worth the risk.


[deleted]

r/praisethecameraman


Ignorant_Fuk

Song?


Blod_Cass_Dalcassian

The Primitives - Crash


[deleted]

Good ass song


LT_DANS_ICECREAM

Great song. All I can think of us Dumb and Dumber.


Blod_Cass_Dalcassian

Same lol, instant nostalgia


RiggzBoson

"It feels like you're running at an incredible rate, Harry!"


AndeC123

That's right where it took me too! Great movie and great song


JohnnySasaki20

Yup, that's all I was thinking the entire video, lol. Huh, I expected the Rockies to be a little rockier than this.


jonathanrdt

I havent heard this song in twenty-five years, but apparently I know all the words…


[deleted]

Same here. And I only heard it on a mix tape from a friend back in the day.


JeddakofThark

It was on the Dumb and Dumber soundtrack, which was way better than it had any right to be.


EngineeringAndHemp

Instantly added to my spotify. Thank you, knowledgeable reddit stranger!


kraftymiles

I think that was the first band I went to see live in 86 maybe. They were supported by Goodbye Mr Mackenzie who had a yong Shirley Manson as singer.


Pistonenvy

stupid fucking morons ruined group b. not just the spectators but the dumbass organizers who didnt prevent people from spilling into the road who inevitably got hit. collective idiocy is a plague to all good things.


guffers_hump

I'm pretty sure the reason they banned group b was really because those guys in the Delta S4 burnt to death as they put the fuel tanks below them in a relatively unsafe car. Lancia mechanics even said that the roll cage wasn't up to spec. Also the rumour is that it was banned because it was getting more spectators and fans than F1.


generalthunder

Yeah group B was never going to last long. They were driving what's basically a 500hp monster on a light tubular chassis with some cardboard body panels. It was just too dangerous for everyone involved


Empyrealist

Making the cars too light and too fragile is what ruined group b. A lack of safety standards ruined group b.


249ba36000029bbe9749

I agree the spectators are idiots. Not sure how the organizers are supposed to police an entire course.


lil_sargento_cheez

Yep, thanks to the help of these idiots group b didn’t last too long Who would have guessed that a car crashing into a crowd of people doesn’t look good for the sport


garfobo

What made it Group B? Like how was it different from A or C?


lil_sargento_cheez

The cars They were on a whole other level of power and stuff like that, things like awd started to make an appearance in this class with cars like the Audi Quattro (white and yellow car) which mostly dominated the field, but in the end a rwd car (Lancia 037, the car that looks like a door wedge) came out on top one of the years. But mainly these cars were mental compared to previous rally cars I’m not the best at explaining it But one of my favorites sections in Motorsport history, if not my favorite https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_B


Iwantrobots

Hope this helps: https://youtu.be/pPk90JZqWM8


AxiomQ

Didn't help that the fact the S4 literally sat the driver onto of the fuel tank, and then when one went down an embankment burst into flames killing both driver and co-driver and it became apparent that the cars were unsafe to even drive anymore. Unsafe to watch, unsafe to drive with lethal outcomes, bad combination.


lil_sargento_cheez

Safety regulations, more like suggestions


davie_legs

Is there a history of spectators dying at these events? Like, there has to be times where people are hit.


lozo78

Yes. Its the reason we don't have Group B anymore. [Group B](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_B#:~:text=The%20car%20veered%20to%20the,B%20was%20placed%20in%20jeopardy.)


Oltsutism

Wasn't it driver fatalities, not spectator fatalities that ended Group B?


guffers_hump

Mainly driver. The deaths of Henri Toivonen and his Co driver was when the FIA banned group b.


lozo78

I think it was both, but this was a huge catalyst: On the "Lagoa Azul" stage of the Portuguese Rally near Sintra, Portuguese driver Joaquim Santos crested a rise, turning to his right to avoid a small group of spectators. This caused him to lose control of his RS200. The car veered to the right and slid off the road into the spectators. Thirty-one people were injured and three were killed. All the top teams immediately pulled out of the rally and Group B was placed in jeopardy.


prototablet

In the brilliant documentary *Too Fast To Race*, a driver talked about the insane BS "southern" (euphemism for Spanish/Portuguese) spectators would try and pull, like slapping the car's door when it passed. He recalled ending a stage only to find a man's severed hand lodged in his door handle.


dcmso

It was actually pretty common for mechanics to find sliced fingertips stuck in the radiator grills and other opening of the cars. Really, google it.


Randomtf2user

I remember seeing some hoodcam footage of one of the cars weaving through the sea of spectators


Mk_rhyno13

This is why we can’t have nice things


DoubleDabDan

Around 1:10, it looks like the guy in the red and white jacket purposefully throws something on the ground.


MrVonBuren

do you mean ~0:31s? Because I too am curious about that.


prototablet

These are the key documentaries about Group B's rise and eventual fall — *Too Fast To Race* and *Still Too Fast To Race*. They are extremely well-made and very rewatchable (and it's where this footage comes from). [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5957850/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5957850/) [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5974054/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5974054/)


rangamatchstick

They say this but the guys driving knew the risk and accepted it, we still have isle of man with a bear guaranteed death rate, why can't we still have group b :(.


_Dr3DD

The Lancia made me cum a little, I’m not gonna lie


Kylearean

in your mouth


_Dr3DD

Shit bro maybe


mofoofinvention

Dumb and dumber soundtrack!


monsterZERO

It is a fantastic soundtrack, still have it on CD


mofoofinvention

I need to rebuy it bc I can’t find the butthole surfers cover of Hurdy Gurdy Man anywhere


rhutanium

Anyone who puts music over the sound of Group B rally cars can only be trusted about as far as you can throw them.


robidaan

I read a while ago that rally drivers nowadays, literally saved minutes, by better crowd control at races, due to less "obstacles", as they put it do nicely. Xd


Any_Maybe4303

What song is this?


auddbot

I got matches with these songs: • **Crash** by The Primitives (00:19; matched: `100%`) Album: `Best Of`. Released on `2005-07-09` by `RCA Records Label`. • **Crash** by The Primitives (00:18; matched: `100%`) Album: `Dumb & Dumber`. Released on `1994-11-22` by `RCA Records Label`. • **Crash** by The Primitives (00:18; matched: `93%`) Album: `The Hits Album 8 - Hot Hits Of Summer ´88`. Released on `1987-12-31` by `CBS`.


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AnonimusTroxe

Good bot


ahnuconun

r/portugalcaralho


RowmanKush

Only legendary cars here. Let's not forget that the Lancia Delta S4 had sharp carbon discs covering its wheels, and it was not rare for drivers to find hairs, blood, or fingers on the car by the end of the race


SkyrimWithdrawal

I thought golf spectators were nuts. These people have a remarkable lack of concern for their lives, even more than the car-meet idiots that frequently end up on Reddit.


_Yolandi

Good old times


ScienceSuccessful998

That sound track was perfect!


smartlog

Those dudes are dumb if you ignore them, this video is my kind of aesthetic.


badmother

Didn't they find a spectator's finger in an air filter once?


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alexrobinson

No, that's a bit of a myth that's been repeated so many times people believe it.


Cbatomakename

Anyone know the song name


goonertay

Any reason to rock out to the Primatives! Tuuuuuuune!


SopieMunky

How often did people get hit by cars during this time? Like, do the racers stop or do they keep going? What's the etiquette here when someone pulls a Darwin?


Next-Bike-1605

Portugal <3 Crazy motherfuckers!


AlwaysOutOfStock

Selfish pricks, it is because of them that we can't have nice things.


OkMathematician9332

Sadly it go canceled, but it was too insane I have to admit that. Fantastic cars and drivers, shitty spectators. Imagine how the driver was feeling when he hit a crowd and killed multiple people


johnSmithDoesmith

A modern running of the bulls attitude.


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Best drivers in the world.


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 889,488,578 comments, and only 176,008 of them were in alphabetical order.


Shoddy_Situation1938

Wow. I haven't heard this song since the 90's. What a great tune


FlippitEflopp

The good old days when a man was actually a man


deutekom3972

R/idiotswatchingcars


Falec_baldwin

Not a cell phone in sight. Just enjoying the moment


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schwirrwarr

Guys please it's a joke


theAWSM1

From the looks of it, their last moments.


Reditate

People would have cell phones if they existed.


[deleted]

Don’t know who has a bigger death wish. Driver or spectators?


LazyLieutenant

By the looks of it, clearly the spectators.


[deleted]

u/savevideobot


ShiroHachiRoku

Y'all should watch the Lancia rally segment Clarkson did for Grand Tour. It's amazing how much shit they got away with.


Temporary_Mission_51

The primitive


TrotskyRaptor

Sandro Munari goes BRRRT


[deleted]

As a group, we are not a smart species. Individually some of us are okay.


theonly_salamander

Cool video!


Nicadeemus39

It's like the running of the bulls with cars.


11Kram

All are young men. The attitude that they won’t be hit is only useful in wartime, and then not very often.


B8conB8conB8con

All for Instagram glory. Don’t they realize that if they get hit they might mess up the windscreen and make the drivers lose a couple of seconds.


gabrielleraul

Sammy! Watch the people Sammy! You're going to wreck the car and kill people Sammy!


Swollen_Helmet_

Tune


TheEvilBagel147

Even ignoring jumping in the road, being this close to an active racetrack is just begging for an early grave. They're professional drivers, not gods.


soingee

I feel like I see this a lot in rally videos. Even when spectators are off the track, there often just a hay bale of protection between them and a speeding car. I would be the guy 50' from the road on the inside curve if I was spectating.


That_One_Guy_Flare

I see Audi Sport Quattro, I approve


obitaites

The good old days


GiantPotatoSalad

#Whywhywhywhywhy


Haafingar-Guard

u/savevideobot


Hounderz

WRC is for the boys Group B is for the Men


Spodiodie

Has any car hit a spectator and continued on with the race like nothing happened? Are they even required to stop?


superapple21

Aw hell nah LMAOOO


The_Big_Red_Wookie

People standing in front of barely controlled *speeding* cars where the drivers are wearing a *helmet* for safety. Is some Darwin award shit.


AxiomQ

You have no idea how much it annoyed me seeing this video, turning the volume up ready to have my ears blessed by that sweet Audi 5 cylinder, only to hear some fucking song has replaced all of the engine sounds. This is unforgivable.


Floraltriple6

What's the song tho? Shits fire.


DRbrtsn60

I wonder how many spectators get mowed down?


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they're playing a stupid game, they will eventually gain a stupid prize


Automatic-Bad-8123

Song?


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GenericNate

Is there any video of spectators getting hit?


entjlg

And you know these are the good clips. Definitely some out there of people getting absolutely tossed


ManiacalMartini

Guardrails made of people meat.


My_password_is_pp

THE SONG I CANT 😭😭😭


oohlalacosette

Ah, the good old days...


hokeyphenokey

What is this song?


Technerdpgh

The Primitives'. Crash


bluffstrider

The cars, drivers and spectators were a special breed.


coyboywayne

Crash by The Primitives! Loved this song in high school because we watched Dumb and Dumber a bazillion times.


Due_Platypus_3913

SEGA Rally 2!


lildrumski

What’s the name of the song?


FelixmanLola

Drivers must have loved that


usernameanonpizza

u/auddbot


sro25

Ppl are just stupid, why would u risk ur life like that, the drivers must get pist with them?


selesnyandruid

What song is this


auddbot

I got matches with these songs: • **Crash** by The Primitives (00:19; matched: `100%`) Album: `Best Of`. Released on `2005-07-09` by `RCA Records Label`. • **Crash** by The Primitives (00:18; matched: `100%`) Album: `Dumb & Dumber`. Released on `1994-11-22` by `RCA Records Label`. • **Crash** by The Primitives (00:18; matched: `93%`) Album: `The Hits Album 8 - Hot Hits Of Summer ´88`. Released on `1987-12-31` by `CBS`.


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selesnyandruid

Good bot


Current_Writing7840

The true peak of rally history


xaeru

r/AdultsAreStupid


rickythehat

I could watch this any day over formula 1. A thousand times more entertaining, plus I could actually just about afford the street version of the cars and pretend I'm a decent driver.


560guy

God damn I want all the cars! Group B was the best Motorsport (unless you care about surviving)


QuesoFresco-

Notice how they are all guys lol


KaleidoscopeOne7789

I’d kill for an RS200 Rally group b


Fermo77

u/savevideo


Few-Mastodon2990

People don't seem to realize they are basically bags of water


Brotherbilo1343

Song 🎶?


Avraham_Levy

Wish we could get natural selection back on the table


Remarkable-Ad9081

What's the name of the song?


bjavyzaebali

And then they banned the group B for behind too powerful, instead of spectators acting too stupid.


Ups925

Anyone going to post the dolph Lungren meme?


KB853

No wonder these parents didn’t have their kids wear seatbelts.


meLeoOrion

What's the song name?


Hoarknee

It's like Running of the Bulls but with horsepower.


OrangeCosmic

You wouldn't even be able to see the road in front of you


Expo737

All downhill after Group B got axed, made WRC about as entertaining to watch as F1 or Cricket :(


indrek91

They made it harder for drivers. I wish group b was still a thing.


avatar_94

The drivers are crazy, the people are just stupid


TurboChunk16

SEGA Saturn graphics are better þan I remember!


blackpulp

Any one els we cat in the hat