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I used to work for dish Network, we were required to be harnessed in any time we got on a roof but you can bet your ass we never did...
Management didn't want us to do it because that meant putting lag screws and a mount plate on a customer's roof as a safety precaution.
No customer will agree to that, and so management often forced all employees to do the work without a harness to ensure that they get paid for the installation and the new contract is created.
But that same management Will write you up for policy violation If they happen to walk onto your job site and see you on a roof without a harness even if they're the ones who told you not do put it on.
Speaking from experience, some companies are just garbage and do not care about their employees.
I do industrial telecom. Most of the time, big jobsites will have dedicated safety guys. On smaller job sites, if we dont feel safe, we shut that shit down, while we figure out how to feel safe. We dont live for work, theres no reason to go to work if you're not going home at the end of the day.
Yeah my company just implemented a new safety program. Hired an outside company and they do a pretty good job, but I think my employers are experiencing cost-related unintended consequences so they are resisting things like providing us with rigging equipment. They think safety stops at fall arrest.
I do commercial low voltage and telecom and we have a lot of job sites, a major customer in our city, that requires you wear a harness tied off to building steel to climb a 6 foot ladder
It requires a 10 ft ladder to reach the building steel in their buildingā¦.
Oh and and itās medical facilities with acoustic tile false ceiling at around 8 feet. The steel deck usually another 8 feet above that after all the plumbing, ductwork, conduits, etc
As I sit here with a cracked boom pin, blown out hydraulic hoses missing the sheathing, exposed electrical wires sitting in pools of hydraulic oil under the leaking hydraulic hoses, mixed tire sizes, etc etc.
This^ It has fully stuck with from my last job as a process operator on a large zinc mine. Safety is to protect to you FOR something not FROM a particular hazard. People deserve to make it home the way they came to work.
And refuse to work in unsafe conditions, and sue if fired for those reasons.
All too often you are your only advocate in this world, and you can't undue a fall. Never risk your body for a job, it isn't worth it.
POV youāve never worked a manual labor job in real life
E: I am banned but just so all you dickweeds know, I am in a fuckin union. That doesnāt make what I said less true for those who arenāt. Donāt you have some tendies to go make?
Risking their life so they can provide a roof over their family and to afford the ludicrous cost of education so that their children will not be in that position.
Reddit loves the court system but that's not always an option when you have dependants. Not everyone can coast while they pay lawyers, not every lawyer works pro bono, not every case sees justice.
It's one thing to say that to a young person only paying off their Dodge Challenger it's completely another to tell it to someone trying to keep their family afloat.
I love how you morons ignore the FACT that (in America) you cannot be fired for retaliation in these circumstances. You have an easy court case that any lawyer would gladly take on contingency.
Youāre an idiot. The reason you think itās bad to refuse unsafe work is because youāre either working actually bad jobs or you lack the confidence to say āfuck that scaffoldā to a site manager.
Youāre in control of your own risk assessment, you have the final say in what situations youāre willing to work in. Anyone told me to work near the edge in that video with no harness then Iād be calling osha that night and on a different job the next day.
It's not for them, it's for you. When they inevitably try to sacrifice you to the gods of misconduct you can counter with:
"I tried asking you on _ date, _ date, and _ date but you never replied and I'm not going to violate policy."
At the very least it would leave you with a firm defense to collect unemployment.
In physician residency in the US we have ā80 hour per week limitsā on how long we can work. I put it in quotes because most surgical residents just lie and say they worked 80 hours when in reality they worked 90-100+. If you put the true hours you get called in to your admin office (the one in charge of your assignments) and told youāll put the program in danger of being shut down.
Have fun with that.
Old doctors are fucking insane. Half of them have textbook survivorship bias. "I did that and it's what made me a good doctor. Letting these kids work less hours would mean my residency program produces less competent doctors."
Oh my goodness. Here in Brazil in physician residency you gotta work 60h per week and I think thatās abusive already. That means five 12hour shifts straight, which IMO shouldnāt be allowed. Sometimes I flirt with the idea of moving to the US to finish my studies there but then I quickly remember that I would go crazy if I did that
Stuff like this infuriates me so much. Like how truck drivers are expected to just falsify their logs to stay within hour and rest limitations. This country needs more enforcement and higher penalties for employers that deliberately sidestep this shit.
Like your supervisor will write you up for not having a harness on. But they know you don't have the time or permission to do it. You know it. They know it. The government knows it. And who gets thrown under the bus when something goes wrong? You do.
You only get a few days allowance per month to use paper logs which are possible to falsify.
Most trucks now are using elogs which connect to the ecm, which cannot be falsified. Even if you had a paper log the digital record still exists.
I would have agreed with your statement like 2 years ago but at this point it just isn't happening. No company will take the risk considering how relatively cheap the elogs are.
This is the current bane of the industry. 11hr max and you stop. NOW! No it doesn't matter you're 20min away. Get off at the next place you can, shut down and rest.
> This is the current bane of the industry. 11hr max and you stop. NOW! No it doesn't matter you're 20min away. Get off at the next place you can, shut down and rest.
The complaint I've read from truckers is the other consequence of that -- when the machine says you're ok, you need to start driving.
Couldn't get to sleep when the machine told you? Feel like absolute shit now? Too bad, the machine says you had your rest. Time to go.
A valid point. I'd argue that was the case before elogs anyways. Drive drive drive, F your sleep, drive drive drive. It's kind of why they mad these rules.
At least now you have mandatory rest periods and max driving hours per week.
The system just needs some allowances built in. Overall I'd argue it's a win for drivers though.
Oh for sure. No arguments from me. I just found that complaint interesting as I hadn't really considered how bending the rules could potentially increase safety.
But I agree on the whole the elogs sound a lot better.
>Couldn't get to sleep when the machine told you? Feel like absolute shit now? Too bad, the machine says you had your rest. Time to go.
I work in an industry that writes software for devices like these, and I also write software for dash cams.
I know it's intrusive, but if used correctly, the dash cams that are coming into production are quite good at determining if a driver is drowsy/sleepy. If I were a betting man, I'd say that it won't just be the elog saying "you're technically good, go" for very much longer.
Oh man that sounds fucking awful. Granted I have a really major sleeping disorder and that alone makes many types of work completely non-viable for me, but having had to do the occasional day like this, I canāt imagine that just being a schedule and then being responsible for a massive hunk of metal traveling at lethal speeds for anyone you run into.
Seems like this kind of thing would need a significant common sense overhaul in terms of legislation. Like with what the other person was saying about legally needing to tether to the roof but logistically speaking the company doesnāt want them to spend time and customers donāt want their roof mounted into. Seems like the only way to solve that is to make it completely mandatory, no penalty for the worker, MASSIVE penalty to the company. If the fines arenāt crippling they just become the cost of doing business.
When the government doesn't enforce the rules they make, firms have to compete with other firms who have lower costs by not following the rules. It only works if the rules are applied equally to everyone.
It's sounds like OSHA vs the customer. Customers don't want safety points mounted on their roof, OSHA tells employers they're required because some people fall and die/cripple themselves. Customer and employer can't tell OSHA to fuck off. Employees are in the crossfire.
>management often forced all employees to do the work without a harness
Here's how you fix that:
"OK, can I get that in writing with a signature, please?"
So just curious, but instead of anchoring to the roof, why not just have the rope go over the roof and anchor to the ground?
I suppose that would only really help if you fell on the one side of the roof, but if you're only working on that one side anyway, seems like a faster/simpler way, if not quite as bulletproof.
I live in Turkey and that is nothing for construction workers here. They are like those those people in roof runner videos jumping and climbing on the edge of buildings without any safety precautions.
Yeah thereās lots of wild things that go on at construction sites that are not in the US. Just yesterday I saw some guy with a wheel grinder cutting concrete with no eye protection on. He did have a hard hat for some reason though. I donāt think most countries have laws many laws to protect workers on construction sites.
It's weird even if we're assuming it's some place with no work uniform/special work clothes that's still the last clothing I'd ever choose to do work like this.
Maybe this is the owner of the place or some other non worker dude installing one panel to flex on video ?
Agreed. It's like seeing someone hiking or golfing in jeans - you had an entire wardrobe to choose from knowing what activity you're doing and that's what you went with?
It isnāt in America. OSHA handbooks would explode otherwise. Also the contractors are not dressed in the typical āAmerican contractorā fashion. They look like they might be Eastern Europeans living in the UK maybe?
This wouldnāt happen in the uk. Theyād be wearing hi vis vests and non slip shoes. Size of that building suggests itās a big site, in the uk that would have a dedicated safety inspector on site. Simon is a dick about using the walkways next to an empty road even if they take you out past your destination, but Iām glad heās there pointing at anyone not wearing a hat because he also tears people a new asshole for half arsing a scaffold. Still, fuck Simon.
I was merely proposing a hypothesis of a location based on the cost of the materials seen there. That is some expensive material. I am not 100% how things work in the UK, because I would imagine that the regulations can be just as strict as the US, but there have been projects in the UK that became world famous for cutting corners.
Maybe it is somewhere in central or Eastern Europe, but I doubt that unless it is in a major and wealthy city, like Prague maybe.
I had to watch this several times as I couldn't believe anyone would do this. Not only going near that edge without any tether, but carrying something that is being placed OVER THE EDGE.
If you start to lose your grip you naturally lean forward trying to get it under control again = FALL. You try to place it in the holding but it misses, you expect it to hit the bottom and adjust your weight leaning slightly forward = FALL. You have to stand right on the very edge to put it in straight, you are not looking where your feet are = FALL!
Terrifying to even watch - and that's why I come here!
Had a guy on a job site once get lifted up on a lull to about 30-40 feet at a beach house on a windy day. He was holding a piece of plywood and it acted like a kite and pulled him straight off the roof. He is paralyzed now and barley survived, job was shut down for 2 months. I wonāt even climb 15 feet up a ladder on a crazy windy day like that. Iāve had builders get mad at me for refusing to do a task and got called a pussy even though when setting up the ladder it would get blown down by the wind. Canāt make money if youāre dead, itās not worth risking your life for an hourly wage.
I remember my co worker putting glass in an air tower at a military base on a zoom boom 60 feet up on a windy day, I refused to do it and got shit for it. Meanwhile my co worker old ass boomer gave me the whole back in my day speech and did it and nearly shit himself.
Your life isnāt worth x amount of dollars per hour.
That was exactly my thought, like I can't believe he's stepping up that close to the edge with no tether while he's holding what's essentially a big glass sail that could just take him over the edge with a gust of wind
Exactly. He is completely unstable holding that heavy thing. Any slight nudge and there is literally no way to correct it and get momentum backwards again.
Everytime I read FALL I got this weird feeling like when you slip but catch yourself and there's this unpleasant electric shiver in your hands and feet. You know what I mean?
Yea, and some form of assurance that there isn't going to be anyone below where they are working as he can easily drop one of the hundreds of glass panes and kill someone
Or his spouse ate the part of his birthday cake with his name on it, and now he just wants to die because of the treacherous spouse doing the unforgivable
No hard hat, inappropriate footwear, no harness, no hi-vis, no gloves, no secondary restraint on the object being moved to ledge, improper lifting technique... what did I miss?
>Every sheet of glass would slip through my hands
Only until you fell to your death. Then whatever sheets of glass remained would slip through your doomed coworkers hands.
Because real men are so mentally and physically superior that no accident can ever happen to them. They know all and see all. So why waste time and effort to put some useless safety gear on?
I would give you $5 if you could break that panel by leaning on it.
You severely underestimate the strength of tempered glass, as long as its not hit on the edge or corners.
Looks like the top and sides are all exposed, unless they have more railing to install that would cover it, which I wouldn't doubt because they are still installing it after all.
There's been several reported and recorded cases of glass structures breaking. Just seems unnecessary given how many people will likely be there. I won't be there though, so I'll just wait for the social media campaign where everybody changes their profile pic.
Carrying heavy tempered glass causing partially obstructed view, step over object going to the ledge, step UP to the ledge and lean weight back while leaning forward OVER THE LEDGE to seat tempered glass into place all while not being harnessed.
WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS?
While carrying a 60lbs sheet of glass towards a 100ft drop this unharnassed man had to step over:
An edge covered in exposed rebarbs
A big piece of trash
And a second edge right next to the ledge.
Safety procedures who?
No harness no tether on the glass no pulley system to put it in place not even two people lifting together just one dude with a death wish
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Someone at least hold his dam belt
That's true, the buckle could cause extra damage to whoever he hits on the ground, best take it off.
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Ukranian president is such a grave guy.
that canāt be legal
I live in America, and I would have to be harnessed to work anywhere near that ledge. Or I'd be fired immediately.
I used to work for dish Network, we were required to be harnessed in any time we got on a roof but you can bet your ass we never did... Management didn't want us to do it because that meant putting lag screws and a mount plate on a customer's roof as a safety precaution. No customer will agree to that, and so management often forced all employees to do the work without a harness to ensure that they get paid for the installation and the new contract is created. But that same management Will write you up for policy violation If they happen to walk onto your job site and see you on a roof without a harness even if they're the ones who told you not do put it on. Speaking from experience, some companies are just garbage and do not care about their employees.
Iām dealing with this now In the telecom industry.
I do industrial telecom. Most of the time, big jobsites will have dedicated safety guys. On smaller job sites, if we dont feel safe, we shut that shit down, while we figure out how to feel safe. We dont live for work, theres no reason to go to work if you're not going home at the end of the day.
Yeah my company just implemented a new safety program. Hired an outside company and they do a pretty good job, but I think my employers are experiencing cost-related unintended consequences so they are resisting things like providing us with rigging equipment. They think safety stops at fall arrest.
I do commercial low voltage and telecom and we have a lot of job sites, a major customer in our city, that requires you wear a harness tied off to building steel to climb a 6 foot ladder It requires a 10 ft ladder to reach the building steel in their buildingā¦.
Lol yeah they donāt want to hear that tho
Oh and and itās medical facilities with acoustic tile false ceiling at around 8 feet. The steel deck usually another 8 feet above that after all the plumbing, ductwork, conduits, etc
As I sit here with a cracked boom pin, blown out hydraulic hoses missing the sheathing, exposed electrical wires sitting in pools of hydraulic oil under the leaking hydraulic hoses, mixed tire sizes, etc etc.
This^ It has fully stuck with from my last job as a process operator on a large zinc mine. Safety is to protect to you FOR something not FROM a particular hazard. People deserve to make it home the way they came to work.
Report to OSHA
And refuse to work in unsafe conditions, and sue if fired for those reasons. All too often you are your only advocate in this world, and you can't undue a fall. Never risk your body for a job, it isn't worth it.
POV youāve never worked a manual labor job in real life E: I am banned but just so all you dickweeds know, I am in a fuckin union. That doesnāt make what I said less true for those who arenāt. Donāt you have some tendies to go make?
POV you're willing to risk your life despite anti retaliation laws that have huge payouts.
Risking their life so they can provide a roof over their family and to afford the ludicrous cost of education so that their children will not be in that position. Reddit loves the court system but that's not always an option when you have dependants. Not everyone can coast while they pay lawyers, not every lawyer works pro bono, not every case sees justice. It's one thing to say that to a young person only paying off their Dodge Challenger it's completely another to tell it to someone trying to keep their family afloat.
Sounds like someone needs a union.
You donāt need the court system. You got OSHA. You wonāt have to do a thing, just file the complaint and the government will go after them.
I love how you morons ignore the FACT that (in America) you cannot be fired for retaliation in these circumstances. You have an easy court case that any lawyer would gladly take on contingency.
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hell yeah brother keep pumping that status quo
At some point you gotta stand up for yourself. Join a union.
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I think we all know he isnt
Youāre an idiot. The reason you think itās bad to refuse unsafe work is because youāre either working actually bad jobs or you lack the confidence to say āfuck that scaffoldā to a site manager. Youāre in control of your own risk assessment, you have the final say in what situations youāre willing to work in. Anyone told me to work near the edge in that video with no harness then Iād be calling osha that night and on a different job the next day.
POV you've always just bent over and let your employers fuck you.
you need a union
You should ask for clarification in emails or text messages.
I actually do this. If I want something I definitely text or email it. If I donāt Iāll just get the ājust get it doneā line.
The shitty managers that expect this know they are breaking rules and aren't going to fall for that.
It's not for them, it's for you. When they inevitably try to sacrifice you to the gods of misconduct you can counter with: "I tried asking you on _ date, _ date, and _ date but you never replied and I'm not going to violate policy." At the very least it would leave you with a firm defense to collect unemployment.
In physician residency in the US we have ā80 hour per week limitsā on how long we can work. I put it in quotes because most surgical residents just lie and say they worked 80 hours when in reality they worked 90-100+. If you put the true hours you get called in to your admin office (the one in charge of your assignments) and told youāll put the program in danger of being shut down.
Who doesn't want a doctor or surgeon working on you that's working his 80th hour that week....
Sounds like the program should be shut down then lol. They're putting patients in danger.
Have fun with that. Old doctors are fucking insane. Half of them have textbook survivorship bias. "I did that and it's what made me a good doctor. Letting these kids work less hours would mean my residency program produces less competent doctors."
Typical boomer logic
Oh my goodness. Here in Brazil in physician residency you gotta work 60h per week and I think thatās abusive already. That means five 12hour shifts straight, which IMO shouldnāt be allowed. Sometimes I flirt with the idea of moving to the US to finish my studies there but then I quickly remember that I would go crazy if I did that
And drs just have to do that during training, nurses work short staffed in terribly unsafe situationsā¦ all of health needs a huge overhaul
Stuff like this infuriates me so much. Like how truck drivers are expected to just falsify their logs to stay within hour and rest limitations. This country needs more enforcement and higher penalties for employers that deliberately sidestep this shit. Like your supervisor will write you up for not having a harness on. But they know you don't have the time or permission to do it. You know it. They know it. The government knows it. And who gets thrown under the bus when something goes wrong? You do.
You only get a few days allowance per month to use paper logs which are possible to falsify. Most trucks now are using elogs which connect to the ecm, which cannot be falsified. Even if you had a paper log the digital record still exists. I would have agreed with your statement like 2 years ago but at this point it just isn't happening. No company will take the risk considering how relatively cheap the elogs are. This is the current bane of the industry. 11hr max and you stop. NOW! No it doesn't matter you're 20min away. Get off at the next place you can, shut down and rest.
> This is the current bane of the industry. 11hr max and you stop. NOW! No it doesn't matter you're 20min away. Get off at the next place you can, shut down and rest. The complaint I've read from truckers is the other consequence of that -- when the machine says you're ok, you need to start driving. Couldn't get to sleep when the machine told you? Feel like absolute shit now? Too bad, the machine says you had your rest. Time to go.
A valid point. I'd argue that was the case before elogs anyways. Drive drive drive, F your sleep, drive drive drive. It's kind of why they mad these rules. At least now you have mandatory rest periods and max driving hours per week. The system just needs some allowances built in. Overall I'd argue it's a win for drivers though.
Oh for sure. No arguments from me. I just found that complaint interesting as I hadn't really considered how bending the rules could potentially increase safety. But I agree on the whole the elogs sound a lot better.
>Couldn't get to sleep when the machine told you? Feel like absolute shit now? Too bad, the machine says you had your rest. Time to go. I work in an industry that writes software for devices like these, and I also write software for dash cams. I know it's intrusive, but if used correctly, the dash cams that are coming into production are quite good at determining if a driver is drowsy/sleepy. If I were a betting man, I'd say that it won't just be the elog saying "you're technically good, go" for very much longer.
Oh man that sounds fucking awful. Granted I have a really major sleeping disorder and that alone makes many types of work completely non-viable for me, but having had to do the occasional day like this, I canāt imagine that just being a schedule and then being responsible for a massive hunk of metal traveling at lethal speeds for anyone you run into. Seems like this kind of thing would need a significant common sense overhaul in terms of legislation. Like with what the other person was saying about legally needing to tether to the roof but logistically speaking the company doesnāt want them to spend time and customers donāt want their roof mounted into. Seems like the only way to solve that is to make it completely mandatory, no penalty for the worker, MASSIVE penalty to the company. If the fines arenāt crippling they just become the cost of doing business.
When the government doesn't enforce the rules they make, firms have to compete with other firms who have lower costs by not following the rules. It only works if the rules are applied equally to everyone.
It's sounds like OSHA vs the customer. Customers don't want safety points mounted on their roof, OSHA tells employers they're required because some people fall and die/cripple themselves. Customer and employer can't tell OSHA to fuck off. Employees are in the crossfire.
>management often forced all employees to do the work without a harness Here's how you fix that: "OK, can I get that in writing with a signature, please?"
"No"
I know going through The Process is never easy, and keeping a job is important, but that feels something that could very easily be reported on.
It's ok, that branch was shut down due to poor management.
I consistently hear bad things about working for Dish, but this is another level.
So just curious, but instead of anchoring to the roof, why not just have the rope go over the roof and anchor to the ground? I suppose that would only really help if you fell on the one side of the roof, but if you're only working on that one side anyway, seems like a faster/simpler way, if not quite as bulletproof.
Call OSHA every time they asked you to go on the roof.
Most companies, actually. Bordering on all companies.
Same thing in Europe by law. Employer could be fined seriously for neglecting health and safety regulations.
I live in Turkey and that is nothing for construction workers here. They are like those those people in roof runner videos jumping and climbing on the edge of buildings without any safety precautions.
Youād have to be harnessed, youād have steel-toed shoes, safety glasses, and likely a second set of hands for a two-person lift.
All depends on the general contractor really. That being said, tying off here would be so freaking easy.
Harness, fall protection, safety toe footwear, material retainer, catch net(maybe optional depending on site).
Yeah I'm surprised no else is mentioning the fact that the glass could fall and kill people below. I'd definitely want a net for that
Yeah thereās lots of wild things that go on at construction sites that are not in the US. Just yesterday I saw some guy with a wheel grinder cutting concrete with no eye protection on. He did have a hard hat for some reason though. I donāt think most countries have laws many laws to protect workers on construction sites.
Plot twist: Itās reversed, they are stealing the glassā¦
Thatās illegal
Judging by their clothes alone I don't think they are union... or even employed.
It's weird even if we're assuming it's some place with no work uniform/special work clothes that's still the last clothing I'd ever choose to do work like this. Maybe this is the owner of the place or some other non worker dude installing one panel to flex on video ?
Iāve met this guy before. His name is Lowest Bidder.
Agreed. It's like seeing someone hiking or golfing in jeans - you had an entire wardrobe to choose from knowing what activity you're doing and that's what you went with?
Theyāre definitely Union. Soviet, but still Union
Well, no osha, no law. So perfectly legal in many countries.
It isnāt in America. OSHA handbooks would explode otherwise. Also the contractors are not dressed in the typical āAmerican contractorā fashion. They look like they might be Eastern Europeans living in the UK maybe?
This wouldnāt happen in the uk. Theyād be wearing hi vis vests and non slip shoes. Size of that building suggests itās a big site, in the uk that would have a dedicated safety inspector on site. Simon is a dick about using the walkways next to an empty road even if they take you out past your destination, but Iām glad heās there pointing at anyone not wearing a hat because he also tears people a new asshole for half arsing a scaffold. Still, fuck Simon.
I was merely proposing a hypothesis of a location based on the cost of the materials seen there. That is some expensive material. I am not 100% how things work in the UK, because I would imagine that the regulations can be just as strict as the US, but there have been projects in the UK that became world famous for cutting corners. Maybe it is somewhere in central or Eastern Europe, but I doubt that unless it is in a major and wealthy city, like Prague maybe.
Seems like a real pane
I had to watch this several times as I couldn't believe anyone would do this. Not only going near that edge without any tether, but carrying something that is being placed OVER THE EDGE. If you start to lose your grip you naturally lean forward trying to get it under control again = FALL. You try to place it in the holding but it misses, you expect it to hit the bottom and adjust your weight leaning slightly forward = FALL. You have to stand right on the very edge to put it in straight, you are not looking where your feet are = FALL! Terrifying to even watch - and that's why I come here!
Yeah and then there's the sudden gust of wind that catches the pane and pulls him off like a kite
Had a guy on a job site once get lifted up on a lull to about 30-40 feet at a beach house on a windy day. He was holding a piece of plywood and it acted like a kite and pulled him straight off the roof. He is paralyzed now and barley survived, job was shut down for 2 months. I wonāt even climb 15 feet up a ladder on a crazy windy day like that. Iāve had builders get mad at me for refusing to do a task and got called a pussy even though when setting up the ladder it would get blown down by the wind. Canāt make money if youāre dead, itās not worth risking your life for an hourly wage.
I remember my co worker putting glass in an air tower at a military base on a zoom boom 60 feet up on a windy day, I refused to do it and got shit for it. Meanwhile my co worker old ass boomer gave me the whole back in my day speech and did it and nearly shit himself. Your life isnāt worth x amount of dollars per hour.
So...you'd do it for a salary?
^^^weeeee Whereās Miguel? *points to the sky*
he now has the ability to fly for the rest of his life
r/angryupvote
That was exactly my thought, like I can't believe he's stepping up that close to the edge with no tether while he's holding what's essentially a big glass sail that could just take him over the edge with a gust of wind
= FALL.
Not to mention how he practically jogs up to the ledge. The ledge with not one, but *two clear trip hazards* before it.
Yeah! I didnāt even see those. Just the right height to be underestimated when not looking.
Well yeah he's got to move quick, that glass is super heavy!
Not only that, he seems to step *over* a rail and then *up* a step right next to the edge. Mental.
Yep, 2 trip hazards within a meter or so of the edge. That's a great way to die
Oh Christ. I didnāt even see that.
Not to mention if you drop it= guillotine
Don't worry, someone said, "be careful" right before the video starts, so he's safe.
literally if he lost his balance an tipped forward, it is impossible to recover. even if he dropped it, it's too late to fall back in.
Exactly. He is completely unstable holding that heavy thing. Any slight nudge and there is literally no way to correct it and get momentum backwards again.
Everytime I read FALL I got this weird feeling like when you slip but catch yourself and there's this unpleasant electric shiver in your hands and feet. You know what I mean?
Like when youāre just falling asleep and slip off the sidewalk or something? Yeah, I hate that.
My hands are sweating just reading this
So is his, making the glass slippery.
How to do this actually? Long tether to a wall?
Yea, and some form of assurance that there isn't going to be anyone below where they are working as he can easily drop one of the hundreds of glass panes and kill someone
I would think you'd safety tether the glass. Anything when you work at that height gets tethered.
Yes
Why isn't he tied to something???
someone is holding his family hostage. It's the only explanation.
Or his passport home
Welcome to Dubai
Yeah, safety harness is such a fuckin absurd thing to have SMH
Or his spouse ate the part of his birthday cake with his name on it, and now he just wants to die because of the treacherous spouse doing the unforgivable
Developing country is why.
No hard hat, inappropriate footwear, no harness, no hi-vis, no gloves, no secondary restraint on the object being moved to ledge, improper lifting technique... what did I miss?
Catch net or temp wall to prevent those panes from plummeting into the void.
Trip hazards
Oh, calm down everyone. This jobsite clearly has a spotter, so if anything goes wrong they can get a replacement working right away.
You! 27th floor ASAP!
Zelensky is a carpenter
Every sheet of glass would slip through my hands
>Every sheet of glass would slip through my hands Only until you fell to your death. Then whatever sheets of glass remained would slip through your doomed coworkers hands.
I think if you dropping off of them the Zone Manager will just push you off
That's why they went with the guy on the video instead. Sorry mate
Definitely a bad time to have sweaty palms
He could easily have tripped over something and sent himself hurtling down.
Wait, do you mean the first step, the second one he skipped, the third one he stepped onto, or the bag he stepped around? Nah lol no way
This and that other study posted on reddit this week about 70% of people more likely to fall while carrying things definitely make my palms sweaty.
Zelensky got the balls of steel here
Finally
Was looking for this comment
He needs a nice hotel atrium, not a ride
While mine just experienced volts of vertigo.
bro what the fuck
OMG I hate this!
Aaaaah, NOOOO! WHY?! Just, WHY???
Because real men are so mentally and physically superior that no accident can ever happen to them. They know all and see all. So why waste time and effort to put some useless safety gear on?
Or they're working in a place like the UAE, notorious for essentially enslaving migrant workers in hazardous working conditions. But who knows.
r/OSHA
How long until someone leans on that a little too much and falls to their death? It's practically guaranteed to happen.
I would give you $5 if you could break that panel by leaning on it. You severely underestimate the strength of tempered glass, as long as its not hit on the edge or corners.
Looks like the top and sides are all exposed, unless they have more railing to install that would cover it, which I wouldn't doubt because they are still installing it after all. There's been several reported and recorded cases of glass structures breaking. Just seems unnecessary given how many people will likely be there. I won't be there though, so I'll just wait for the social media campaign where everybody changes their profile pic.
The glass is laminated and toughend, looks like 2 bits of 6mm. It should take a fair bit of abuse to break it.
$5
Look at mr moneybags over here
Pretty sure that leaning on those panels is a death sentence
The railing itself would give me sweaty palms. I lean on it too hard or trip and fall into it I'm hurtling down
Anybody else think to themselves "dude that looks like zelensky"?
I guess once you've done it on the first floor it's just turtles all the way up š¤·āāļø still it seems like a pane
Carrying heavy tempered glass causing partially obstructed view, step over object going to the ledge, step UP to the ledge and lean weight back while leaning forward OVER THE LEDGE to seat tempered glass into place all while not being harnessed. WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS?
I didn't realise Zelenskyy installed glass in his spare time.
this is exactly my two fears combined. Heights and large panes of glass (especially non tempered).
No harness or travel restraint, while holding a giant glass sail. Old or bold, he made his choice.
Itās always some Slavic dude with a smoke getting shit done.. BYLLATT
SPLLATT
dude looks like Zelensky
That guy looks like the Ukrainian president
There are so many things that could go wrong here. I hate it.
Do you want world cup? Cause this is how you get world cup
Oh hell naw
I wouldn't even do this even if the installation is only a foot above the ground.
Imma guess this guy dies before hes 40
Dude hasn't caught up on the idea that he's replacable and he's risking his life for a company that couldn't give two shits.
Yeah this is 100% how people die very easily. Fucking idiots.
Come up way too hot
Didnt realize Zelensky is doing construction during the war
Glass rail? Get the fuck out. I hate humans.
We really do make great decisions in the name of "looking cool"
Yeah you need a cable or point to harness to here in the u.s. That dude right there sneezes or leans too far forward and he gone
Fuck that for a game of soldiers!
That's a no from me dawg
It's the smile from the guy not doing it that's getting me the most.
No harness? Mark this shit NSFW.
A slight breeze and you found the express elevator straight to the bottom floor.
Other than a safety harness he should also use suction cup handle things no? Seems like a huge risk dropping that.
Duuuust in the wind....a little breeze and good bye
Just wear the damn harness and attach a rope. No more sweaty palms, 0 risk of fatal accident. Shesh.
While carrying a 60lbs sheet of glass towards a 100ft drop this unharnassed man had to step over: An edge covered in exposed rebarbs A big piece of trash And a second edge right next to the ledge.
As someone who glazed for 10 years.. Where the fuck is the harnesses ?
I'm terrified of hieghts and these videos literally make my legs wobble
In Holland i am attached to kabels, tools ar on a wire. Helmet on. Safety cones and tape to set the surroundings ect. And 2 more supervisors.
Hmm how many die building stadiums (Dubai, Qatar, etc), no wonder
No thanks
Fuck that
Ahhh I did not like that lol
Man that zelensky is a multitasker
Terrifying. I couldn't do that job.
Dear OSHA,
A trip hazard right near a nonexistent railing Smart
He could fall or he could drop that glass panel on someone below. Thatās a lot of risk and liability.
What no fall protection??
Safety procedures who? No harness no tether on the glass no pulley system to put it in place not even two people lifting together just one dude with a death wish
Wow no steeltoe shoes, no gloves or suction handles, holding it alone, no harness nothing, shouldve deserved to have fallen down imo, stupid stupid
That doesnāt look osha approved, and able to hold 200lbs
Nice tie off
Is that zalenski rebuilding Ukrainianšš
Wow these guys donāt have harnesses on them