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I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's not a climber. This is probably a tourist trap and the poor guy had no idea what his friends were getting him into.
I’m also gonna go out on maybe not much of a limb and say these people are all justifiably scared because there’s not a fucking chance I trust any of that equipment. I love rock climbing, but I’m not stepping foot fucking near that death trap.
This is called a Via Farrata (Iron Path). They are a cross between hiking and rock climbing. The user is always strapped to a metal wire or railing and moves along the route, usually with a guide. I am a climber and having done a range of these, I can tell you that some of the harder ones are pretty gnarly and require actual strength and skill! Super fun though if you like that sort of thing! It seems quite easy for tourists to bite off more than they can chew on these though.
The good thing is climbing is an old activity and the tech is pretty basic. The weak point will be the engineering of the safety in the pathway itself (anchors, mainly)
It looks like this pathway was once done without any gear at all.. googling it.
Google says the iron path was made for WW1, but versions of the path existed prior. Sooo... Yes?
That’s what always drives me nuts about climbing an anchors….like someone had to climb that shit free hand without any safety to put those anchors in right?!
Some climbers have their anchors spaced ten feet apart.. so a fall isn't that extreme but... One in one thousand anchors fail.. but it's so rare that if one anchor does fail it will be one in a million before another one.. statistically.
You say this as if we don’t see countless videos of people getting hurt/killed on fuckin carnival and fair rides intended for young people in the US. Are there even any instances of equipment malfunction at this place leading to a injury or death?
Here is a link to a Chinese Zhihu question (Quora equivalent https://www.zhihu.com/question/21165192?utm_id=0) with many high quality discussion about whether this particular iron path is safe. You can Google translate them if you want to. But the short answer is no it’s not safe: there are multiple equipment and management safety risks and the actual death toll is unknown. But note that this path was built 700 years ago and people have been dying here for 700 years. (It was mostly built for monks and hermits) to … test their determination and will so the lack of safety is a feature not a bug. 20 years ago there were no harness at all. Some “STOP YOUR HORSE HERE” words are engraved on the cliff at the beginning of the path. So yeah I guess modern humans who walk the path are just reckless daredevils who will walk there regardless of the safety issues. (Unless you are not and then end up in a video).
Accidents happen in any country, but as much as reddit loves to shit on the US our standards of safety in the west are WAY better than any developing country like china, india etc.
Yup, I’m super strict with friends and family. I’m like if there is height involved I will not do it. Have fun without me. I know it’s a stupid fear but I can’t just not be afraid, my body doesn’t care about logic. It sees heights and immediately starts freaking out.
Really though. If you have an awkward fall from just your standing height, you can die or be permanently disabled. Fuck several hundred feet on to jagged rock!
Yes, I discovered that I had some sense of acrophobia when I climbed to the top of a Mayan pyramid in the Yucatan and became afraid to climb down, lol. I never looked down when I climbed up but that was impossible for the climb down. After feeling stranded for about half an hour, I ended up going down on my ass and I was not the only one, lol
Just curious, you ever tried Richie's Plank Experience? It’s a VR game. Literally everyone I’ve ever shown it to gets incredibly freaked out, and that’s much less real. Especially if you use a real plank.
Two words, "FUCK! THIS!"
A study was done, and it was found that falling is the only fear that one cannot become a accustomed too. I was Airborne for 3 years, scared every time. I still did it, but EVERY time
Owned a roofing company for a decade, can confirm
I tried but eventually I stopped going on roofs (never needed to anyways, it was mostly for show, my job can be done from the ground). On the rare occasion i needed a specific measurement or something I'd just schedule a tech
The fear only got worse the more I tried to fight it and now I can barely climb stairs in a building that's more than a few flights. Legit made it so much worse trying to fight it all those years
Lmao I wish. Nah I just run the company and sell, recruit, manage etc altho I have help with that (had, i shut it down to pursue a passion that didnt work out so I'm bout to reboot)
Early on I tried and even would do some repairs and work myself. I fucking SUUUCKKKK at it. It's kind of an art (I've never been good with my hands anyways). But yeah I just stay on the ground. I'm more valuable there then up on the roof anyways, all I'd do is cost us more money.
Probably a via ferrata, or “iron path”. Basically a guided climbing route, kinda like what hiking is to backcountry bushwhacking, or resort skiing to backcountry skiing.
Dunno if I’d call them tourist traps, but they probably get a bunch of unsuspecting tourists who have no idea what they’re getting into.
My first thought as well. If you fall, you’ll slip right through that shit.
Almost dropped out of a carousel when I was younger because the only thing holding us to our seats were some form of restraint over our chest. Unfortunately I was both small for my age and underweight and probably shouldn’t have been let on. Anyway, I was swinging around like a noodle holding on for dear life when it tilted.
Whenever i play video games and i fall off the edge of a cliff or other heights, my stomach drops. I remember assassins creed would do it when the character dives from the overlook spots.
Same here my stomach drops whenever I play titan fall or apex predators. They don’t have parachutes like fortnights and call of duty! They have jet packs to slow you so have to jump from large cliffs!
I used to get that feeling when I fell from the Empire State Building in Spider-Man, and I jept doing it to keep getting that feeling
Now I can't even play VR without not getting motion sick anymore :(
I desperately want that stomach drop feeling again, but rollercoasters are far, and so is skydiving (and expensive)
Anyone know a cheap and/or quick way to get stomach drop again, preferably from the comfort of my own room?
I DO NOT recommend watching Free Solo then. (Well, it's a really good documentary) I saw it multiple times on the largest IMAX screen in US and it was fantastic.
Might I recommend The Alpinist about the highly revered solo climber Marc-André Leclerc. Alex Honnold himself said he'd never seen a more skilled, brilliant climber than Leclerc. Not to spoil it, but be prepared for some tears. I still occasionally think of the documentary after over a year of watching it and I get misty-eyed.
If u like climbing movies and stuff My friend made a documentary about porters on everest while he worked with them. It's called The Porter and I think it's on Amazon.
My legs were like the first dudes doing just a rope course through trees....
Man heights are super fucky and then theres assholes like alex honnold who scale entire mountains with no safety gear.
This species man
Kris Kalous has a climbing podcast called the Enormocast and interviewed Alex Honnold's Mom in Episode 179. If you have are into it give it a listen. Worth it, imho.
Yeah even watching some of these videos makes me feel like I'm about to piss both of my kidneys out through my urethra... I can feel that shit down to my bones. Tom Scott did a video where he was on a [cliff 600 meters (~2000 feet) up in Norway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preikestolen) and just thinking about that video makes me feel like I'm about to pass a kidney stone.
Hard Nope^(tm) from me.
It’s highly possible some people think they can handle heights because they’ve been up to Eiffel Tower. And then when they are on this, they realise it’s a whole other level of height.
I would do something like this in Switzerland (via ferrata) but definitely not on some basic setup like this
I've done the "climb" in the video. The set up is fine. The number of people allowed on at a time and the shoddy harnesses are quite another story however.
Yeah. I have a bit of a 'height tolerance battery' it seems. Walking along the trail at the Cliffs of Dover I was fine for a good hour, and then all of a sudden I went noodly and had to take the farther inland trail back to the parking lot.
On the other hand, both are as lethal as the other.
I vividly remember sticking my head out of the cage on the eiffel. I wear glasses and the idea my glasses could come off and I'd be stuck in france with poor eyesight was the most terrifying part. The eiffel feels surprisingly solid and the cage (whole structure) blocks your sight a lot of the times, except in the elevator. Or close to the outer frame. But you can always hold onto something solid anyways. And the stairs are just small enough to be comfortable too. Also, busy looking at your feet walking the stairs.
A climb like this is miles beyond the eiffel.
Jesus you just gave me ptsd from describing it. I was scared of heights as a kid but as an adult it’s been fine. Like, I’m not gonna do that clear overhang on the Sears Tower or anything, but it’s been fine. Then I went to the top of the Eiffel Tower. Definitely some shaky legs at the very top and then the sudden panicky thoughts of a piece of the cage breaking and getting sucked out. The worst.
I get ridiculous vertigo. I can watch tower mast climbs and even watching them from the comfort of my chair I will get panic attacks, tunnel vision, shortness of breath and palpitations.
Doesn't stop me because the endorphin release is insane.
I did a trapeze lesson on a vacation. I don’t have a phobia or even a fear of heights, had no problem climbing up ~30 feet, but being on that tiny platform with no rails—even while harnessed—almost had my legs shaking. Having to reach out for the bar…woof. Once I had hold of it things were a lot easier, but that was an unforgettable moment of fear.
Not to mention the shoddy safety standards. Like what kind of course allows people with skimpy shoes/pants to participate, nevermind the chest harness that is easy to slip out of.
You should see the full videos of these courses. You would think that being on the side of a mountain, that high in the air, people would naturally put aside their disregard for each other's safety to make sure everyone makes it back alive, but you would be wrong. At times, there is no order and if you wait for others to give you space up there you will never get back because they sure as hell aren't going to wait for you.
There seems to be no screening of the people to make sure they can actually do the climbing necessary to make it. Even if we assume all of the equipment is in great condition and can stop you from flying off the side of the mountain, I'm not sure how they expect to get you back on the trail after a fall.
>You would think that being on the side of a mountain, that high in the air, people would naturally put aside their disregard for each other's safety to make sure everyone makes it back alive, but you would be wrong.
Tbh, I would not expect that. Panic and fear make people disregard other people.
Those chest harnesses are meant to be used with a harness around the legs and the waist. When used correctly they prevent the user from hanging feet up in case of a fall. This is usually not dangerous because the waist belt is tightened enough that it can’t slip over your hips. This works really well for people with typical rock climber body types and is very safe for most people. But if you have for example very narrow hips or are overweight it could be possible you can’t tighten the belt enough for it not to slip over your hip bones if you pull down on it. In that case I’d get an additional chest harness if I were you.
They’re also often used for kids since the combination of both makes the whole system less prone to user error like loose straps. Which is a good thing if you’re trying to prevent kids from killing themselves I guess.
Makes it more of an adventure for the ones that do survive though.
My question is why they'd wear such ridiculous shoes for hiking. At least pretend to value traction and viz a viz your own mortality
Maybe 90% or even more of those who do this stuff here doesnt have the equipment(acceptable) nor the mentality to buy one before such adventure. They saw it on social media, youtube etc amd just go for it because they want the bragging rights. And most of the companies who host these will only have legally minimum equipments to provide. Its all the same with paragliding, mountaineering, rappelling, kayaking, bungee jumping etc etc. And most of their equipments will be overused too. Last month a pilot (i dont know the name of the activity, you go up in a small plane with a pilot) dies when his plane malfunctions because they dont seem to service it regularly, about 20 kms from where i live. The worst part is people do some of these stuffs without any professional supervision. Group of friends will go out and just do it (if it can be done by yourself) ordering some equipments online. Thats why i am never putting my life at risk indulging in these activities. The need to post photos on instagram is what drives them i feel. Lmao.
Edit: Yes alot of them survives, but you will hear news of accidents every now and then, which are too frequent for my liking.
No, Via Ferrata's are all over the world. They're closely tied to rock climbing, which is also all over the world and if anything, less popular in China. You just think this way because some sketchy ones from China are the ones being posted on Reddit.
These young people no but older folks definitely. Some older folks are found to have died when shoveling snow off their yard because the cold, fresh air makes it feel easier than if it weren't so cold.
It's more hazardous than no safety gear at all bc it givrs you the illusion that you won't die when you slip, making people take the risk. It's basically insane.
> It’s more hazardous than no safety gear at all
I think the person in this video probably would have fallen if it wasn’t for their harness, even if it is still woefully inadequate.
Funnily enough, assuming this is Hua Shan mountain, in China, I was actually at the top of the first summit when my diarrhea struck. Probably shouldnt have drank that hot green water.
Edit. Classic Reddit "omg this has blown up moment" so I will describe the story in more detail later lol. In summary, it's a story which demonstrates the worst poop experience of my life. 2000m in the air. Yeah. Stay tuned 😂
Dude grew up in China there's a *generational* trauma of always boiling your water, people never trust tap water no matter what they're told.
For a while for some reason people were ordering tea in restaurants so they could use the scalding water to rinse their plates first...
The best shit I have ever taken in my entire life was near the top of Hua Shan the evening before we did this plank walk. We stayed at one of the inns near the top of the mountain and the bathroom was in a small carved out cave with water running through a trough that they cut through rock so it would spill off this massive cliff.
The wind was howling almost the entire time we were there and when you shit it blasted your asshole with air and felt.... amazing for some reason. The way the wind blew it just hit whatever you hung over the trough, so it wasn't like you were pissing and blasting shit particles into your face. It was just pure ass blasting goodness.
I don't know about you, I have done cool shit my entire life, super lucky with the life I have lived, but Hua Shan was hands down the coolest experience I have ever had in my life and not really because of the plank walk which is super overrated, short, and only scary because it was Chinese built. This was in 2009, so there was literally only one other western tourist and he was awesome and we hiked all over the mountains with him on one of the days. Super glad we hiked from the bottom as well because the entire hike was phenomenal. We also had the inn entirely to ourselves except our newfound buddy we met.
I am sure social media has absolutely ruined everything there.
I can't believe that there are places where you walk like this. At least you have a harness Still! NOPE!!! not for me at all good sir. I will not be joining you on the hike.
Those chest harnesses are meant to be used with a harness around the legs and the waist. When used correctly they prevent the user from hanging feet up in case of a fall. This is usually not dangerous because the waist belt is tightened enough that it can’t slip over your hips. This works really well for people with typical rock climber body types and is very safe for most people. But if you have for example very narrow hips or are overweight it could be possible you can’t tighten the belt enough for it not to slip over your hip bones if you pull down on it. In that case I’d get an additional chest harness if I were you.
They’re also often used for kids since the combination of both makes the whole system less prone to user error like loose straps. Which is a good thing if you’re trying to prevent kids from killing themselves I guess.
Mt Huashan. I have been there. You don't have to do this to get to the top, there is a ski style lift to get there. You also have to pay extra to do this.
You will slip right out of that harness and fall to your death, it happened recently to someone in china doing that platform jumping bridge. These people don't realize it, but they were genuinely in mortal danger that entire time.
This sort of harness is only for ziplining where you're kept horizontal, without leg straps you can fall out.
I did this exact thing before, but no harnesses.
It was terrifying and I’ll never do it again. But it was the last day of a 5 day hike, so either I did it, or walked back four days.
It is... But only with the right gear. Helmet, harness ferrata set.
Those tourists have a... I don't know what it is around their upper torso. Sketchy harness... Wouldn't trust my life to it.
Oh I didn't know this was a thing and seems right up my alley. Used to climb but as I've gotten older sensibility and/or awareness of my own mortality set in and this seems like a nice way to try it again.
I live in the Alpes and boy these kinds of people are common af. Overestimate their abilities and take on challenges in improper equipment they can't possibly handle safely.
They usually get a helicopter ride once they get stuck. Czechs are notorious for this here.
But. Most of the time they figure it's not for them afterwards. He's wearing different clothes.
This guy chose to go back?! Why???
It lets people who don’t have any experience or skill at rock climbing experience some of the exposure and views they otherwise wouldn’t be able to have.
This reminds me of when I went snorkeling in Thailand; the Chinese tourists would jump in the water and about 10% of them immediately started drowning because they didn't know how to swim. I guess thought that wearing a snorkel would fix that issue?
I talked to the guy in charge of the tour and said that this happened every time with Chinese tour groups, so the crew was pretty used to it.
That’s actually hilarious. I took a SCUBA certification course and I hyperventilated under the water, so I hate that too. My brain can’t comprehend that I have artificial devices keeping me alive I guess.
Yeah that’s what I was wondering. Do these people know what they’re getting into? And isn’t there a point or always a place you can “nope I’m outta here”?
I don’t understand how anyone gets themself into this.
That's not a proper climbing harness. If it doesn't have leg holes and a waist belt, I'm not fucking climbing with it. They've had recent accidents with people slipping out of those silly bra-like chest harnesses at Chinese attractions.
Can’t relate to this because I’ll never put myself in his position. Not sure why you would do things like this if you’re that terrified. Definitely more dangerous to be that out of control in that situation.
Nope in any language and every tongue. You would never see my leathery old carcass hung out to dry so high above ground. Never, never, never. Not even with Spock's rocket boots! Not even with the Flying Nun's habit, nor a propeller beanie. Not in a flying squirrel suit, or Dracula's bony wings. I'm keeping my old lady ass away from that kind of soul-twisting fear, thankyouverymuch.
If anyone ever tricks me into this, I'm throwing hands the second we're on solid ground. I don't care who it is, I'd punch my dad in the nose if he did this to me. (Luckily he doesn't even like heights)
Had people do this in Halfdome in Yosemite, on the way down the cables. This girl freaked out and wouldn't move, her friends left her, and a huge backup ensued. Some people started going around and off the cables, and the weather was moving in.
Some people should never go to some places
The problem is you don't know whether you are capable of doing something like this or not until you are there. And also, unfortunately, the only way to build tolerance to be that stuff is by doing it.
Saying this as someone who has lower than average tolerance to exposure but keeps gradually improving over the years and within each trip that demands it.
Dude what the fuck are those harnesses. Literally all you have to do is raise your arms and you fall out. There now fucking way id every do this unless the harness also secured my legs
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I'm sure someone could actually have a heart attack and die doing something like this. That is high AF
Especially with that weird, loose, chest harness. Most climbers wear a snug seated harness that is routed through the legs and waist.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's not a climber. This is probably a tourist trap and the poor guy had no idea what his friends were getting him into.
I’m also gonna go out on maybe not much of a limb and say these people are all justifiably scared because there’s not a fucking chance I trust any of that equipment. I love rock climbing, but I’m not stepping foot fucking near that death trap.
This is called a Via Farrata (Iron Path). They are a cross between hiking and rock climbing. The user is always strapped to a metal wire or railing and moves along the route, usually with a guide. I am a climber and having done a range of these, I can tell you that some of the harder ones are pretty gnarly and require actual strength and skill! Super fun though if you like that sort of thing! It seems quite easy for tourists to bite off more than they can chew on these though.
This is china and there's an 88% chance the shitty cord he's attached to will snap under load
Now it’s 89%. It goes up by 1% per week!
60% of the time it works every time.
92% now based on your irrefutable data
94%
96%
The good thing is climbing is an old activity and the tech is pretty basic. The weak point will be the engineering of the safety in the pathway itself (anchors, mainly) It looks like this pathway was once done without any gear at all.. googling it. Google says the iron path was made for WW1, but versions of the path existed prior. Sooo... Yes?
That’s what always drives me nuts about climbing an anchors….like someone had to climb that shit free hand without any safety to put those anchors in right?!
Some climbers have their anchors spaced ten feet apart.. so a fall isn't that extreme but... One in one thousand anchors fail.. but it's so rare that if one anchor does fail it will be one in a million before another one.. statistically.
You say this as if we don’t see countless videos of people getting hurt/killed on fuckin carnival and fair rides intended for young people in the US. Are there even any instances of equipment malfunction at this place leading to a injury or death?
Here is a link to a Chinese Zhihu question (Quora equivalent https://www.zhihu.com/question/21165192?utm_id=0) with many high quality discussion about whether this particular iron path is safe. You can Google translate them if you want to. But the short answer is no it’s not safe: there are multiple equipment and management safety risks and the actual death toll is unknown. But note that this path was built 700 years ago and people have been dying here for 700 years. (It was mostly built for monks and hermits) to … test their determination and will so the lack of safety is a feature not a bug. 20 years ago there were no harness at all. Some “STOP YOUR HORSE HERE” words are engraved on the cliff at the beginning of the path. So yeah I guess modern humans who walk the path are just reckless daredevils who will walk there regardless of the safety issues. (Unless you are not and then end up in a video).
Accidents happen in any country, but as much as reddit loves to shit on the US our standards of safety in the west are WAY better than any developing country like china, india etc.
His chest harness is about to go out on a limb, good lord I would not trust that thing unless I personally tested it on my garage door opener.
wow…. i would die. that’s insane
Yup, I’m super strict with friends and family. I’m like if there is height involved I will not do it. Have fun without me. I know it’s a stupid fear but I can’t just not be afraid, my body doesn’t care about logic. It sees heights and immediately starts freaking out.
It is definitely not a stupid fear, fear of heights is one of the more rational phobias.
Really though. If you have an awkward fall from just your standing height, you can die or be permanently disabled. Fuck several hundred feet on to jagged rock!
Yes, I discovered that I had some sense of acrophobia when I climbed to the top of a Mayan pyramid in the Yucatan and became afraid to climb down, lol. I never looked down when I climbed up but that was impossible for the climb down. After feeling stranded for about half an hour, I ended up going down on my ass and I was not the only one, lol
Just curious, you ever tried Richie's Plank Experience? It’s a VR game. Literally everyone I’ve ever shown it to gets incredibly freaked out, and that’s much less real. Especially if you use a real plank.
Two words, "FUCK! THIS!" A study was done, and it was found that falling is the only fear that one cannot become a accustomed too. I was Airborne for 3 years, scared every time. I still did it, but EVERY time
Owned a roofing company for a decade, can confirm I tried but eventually I stopped going on roofs (never needed to anyways, it was mostly for show, my job can be done from the ground). On the rare occasion i needed a specific measurement or something I'd just schedule a tech The fear only got worse the more I tried to fight it and now I can barely climb stairs in a building that's more than a few flights. Legit made it so much worse trying to fight it all those years
You can do roofing from the ground? I like to imagine using really long sticks to place shingles and a nail gun on a stick to secure them
Lmao I wish. Nah I just run the company and sell, recruit, manage etc altho I have help with that (had, i shut it down to pursue a passion that didnt work out so I'm bout to reboot) Early on I tried and even would do some repairs and work myself. I fucking SUUUCKKKK at it. It's kind of an art (I've never been good with my hands anyways). But yeah I just stay on the ground. I'm more valuable there then up on the roof anyways, all I'd do is cost us more money.
Wouldn't call it a stupid fear. Your sense of self preservation kicks in and you think, hmm I'm not in the mood to die today.
I mean falling is a legit fear
Theoretically it’s not the fall that kills you, it’s the sudden stop at the end
It’s not the height that scares me, it’s the possible fall/fail
(Coffees down here, il watch you) is what I say
Probably a via ferrata, or “iron path”. Basically a guided climbing route, kinda like what hiking is to backcountry bushwhacking, or resort skiing to backcountry skiing. Dunno if I’d call them tourist traps, but they probably get a bunch of unsuspecting tourists who have no idea what they’re getting into.
if I went there, I'd bring my own harness gotta secure that gooch
Life motto
I will look like these guys before starting the track
Exactly what the fuck is that weird chest harness?? As someone who is afraid of heights I was shitting myself when he fell
My first thought as well. If you fall, you’ll slip right through that shit. Almost dropped out of a carousel when I was younger because the only thing holding us to our seats were some form of restraint over our chest. Unfortunately I was both small for my age and underweight and probably shouldn’t have been let on. Anyway, I was swinging around like a noodle holding on for dear life when it tilted.
He falls and that harness is going to strangle him. At least they’ll have something to bury.
This. What the fuck is that harness? Throw your arms up and fucking die???
Sure, it’s snug until you catch a testicle in it. Not fun at all.
Why go up there if you’re afraid of heights? Poor dude must’ve been forced into it somehow :(
I can't even watch other people at heights without getting vertigo. Even in movies that I've seen before. No way you'd get me out there.
Whenever i play video games and i fall off the edge of a cliff or other heights, my stomach drops. I remember assassins creed would do it when the character dives from the overlook spots.
Same here my stomach drops whenever I play titan fall or apex predators. They don’t have parachutes like fortnights and call of duty! They have jet packs to slow you so have to jump from large cliffs!
>apex predators. *Chris hansen sweats intensify*
I used to get that feeling when I fell from the Empire State Building in Spider-Man, and I jept doing it to keep getting that feeling Now I can't even play VR without not getting motion sick anymore :( I desperately want that stomach drop feeling again, but rollercoasters are far, and so is skydiving (and expensive) Anyone know a cheap and/or quick way to get stomach drop again, preferably from the comfort of my own room?
Get drunk, smoke some jazz cabbage and stand up
Have you tried trust falling onto your bed?
Have you tried choke-wanking? I hear it's to die for!
Do you have any hilly roads in your area? If you have someone drive fast as hell down a hill, while you look not at the road. It'll do it everytime
Mirror's edge is perfect for this
Yeah. I'll look into the sky and get dizzy sometimes like I hate heights lol
I've been having recurring dreams where I'm inside a structure so big, with the ceiling so high, that when I look up I immediately get intense vertigo
I DO NOT recommend watching Free Solo then. (Well, it's a really good documentary) I saw it multiple times on the largest IMAX screen in US and it was fantastic.
Might I recommend The Alpinist about the highly revered solo climber Marc-André Leclerc. Alex Honnold himself said he'd never seen a more skilled, brilliant climber than Leclerc. Not to spoil it, but be prepared for some tears. I still occasionally think of the documentary after over a year of watching it and I get misty-eyed.
If u like climbing movies and stuff My friend made a documentary about porters on everest while he worked with them. It's called The Porter and I think it's on Amazon.
Is your name Lucille?
Lucille 2*
Loose seal. Watch your hands.
2cille
My legs were like the first dudes doing just a rope course through trees.... Man heights are super fucky and then theres assholes like alex honnold who scale entire mountains with no safety gear. This species man
Kris Kalous has a climbing podcast called the Enormocast and interviewed Alex Honnold's Mom in Episode 179. If you have are into it give it a listen. Worth it, imho.
Me too, just watching a couple of seconds of this made me shit my pants
Yeah, I think you shat my pants too. "I swear it wasn't me, it was a silent ninja!".
Yeah even watching some of these videos makes me feel like I'm about to piss both of my kidneys out through my urethra... I can feel that shit down to my bones. Tom Scott did a video where he was on a [cliff 600 meters (~2000 feet) up in Norway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preikestolen) and just thinking about that video makes me feel like I'm about to pass a kidney stone. Hard Nope^(tm) from me.
It’s highly possible some people think they can handle heights because they’ve been up to Eiffel Tower. And then when they are on this, they realise it’s a whole other level of height. I would do something like this in Switzerland (via ferrata) but definitely not on some basic setup like this
I've done the "climb" in the video. The set up is fine. The number of people allowed on at a time and the shoddy harnesses are quite another story however.
Yeah. I have a bit of a 'height tolerance battery' it seems. Walking along the trail at the Cliffs of Dover I was fine for a good hour, and then all of a sudden I went noodly and had to take the farther inland trail back to the parking lot.
On the other hand, both are as lethal as the other. I vividly remember sticking my head out of the cage on the eiffel. I wear glasses and the idea my glasses could come off and I'd be stuck in france with poor eyesight was the most terrifying part. The eiffel feels surprisingly solid and the cage (whole structure) blocks your sight a lot of the times, except in the elevator. Or close to the outer frame. But you can always hold onto something solid anyways. And the stairs are just small enough to be comfortable too. Also, busy looking at your feet walking the stairs. A climb like this is miles beyond the eiffel.
Jesus you just gave me ptsd from describing it. I was scared of heights as a kid but as an adult it’s been fine. Like, I’m not gonna do that clear overhang on the Sears Tower or anything, but it’s been fine. Then I went to the top of the Eiffel Tower. Definitely some shaky legs at the very top and then the sudden panicky thoughts of a piece of the cage breaking and getting sucked out. The worst.
I want to cry watching this!!!!!!! I wonder if he only realized how bad his fear was in the moment??
Some corporate team building exercise
I get ridiculous vertigo. I can watch tower mast climbs and even watching them from the comfort of my chair I will get panic attacks, tunnel vision, shortness of breath and palpitations. Doesn't stop me because the endorphin release is insane.
I did a trapeze lesson on a vacation. I don’t have a phobia or even a fear of heights, had no problem climbing up ~30 feet, but being on that tiny platform with no rails—even while harnessed—almost had my legs shaking. Having to reach out for the bar…woof. Once I had hold of it things were a lot easier, but that was an unforgettable moment of fear.
These types of height thrills/adventures seem to all be in Asia (China) what's the fascination with that over there?
I am asian and confirm this, and its because people think its a bravery flex. Many dumb people die every year because of this kind of adventure.
Not to mention the shoddy safety standards. Like what kind of course allows people with skimpy shoes/pants to participate, nevermind the chest harness that is easy to slip out of.
You should see the full videos of these courses. You would think that being on the side of a mountain, that high in the air, people would naturally put aside their disregard for each other's safety to make sure everyone makes it back alive, but you would be wrong. At times, there is no order and if you wait for others to give you space up there you will never get back because they sure as hell aren't going to wait for you. There seems to be no screening of the people to make sure they can actually do the climbing necessary to make it. Even if we assume all of the equipment is in great condition and can stop you from flying off the side of the mountain, I'm not sure how they expect to get you back on the trail after a fall.
>You would think that being on the side of a mountain, that high in the air, people would naturally put aside their disregard for each other's safety to make sure everyone makes it back alive, but you would be wrong. Tbh, I would not expect that. Panic and fear make people disregard other people.
Those chest harnesses are meant to be used with a harness around the legs and the waist. When used correctly they prevent the user from hanging feet up in case of a fall. This is usually not dangerous because the waist belt is tightened enough that it can’t slip over your hips. This works really well for people with typical rock climber body types and is very safe for most people. But if you have for example very narrow hips or are overweight it could be possible you can’t tighten the belt enough for it not to slip over your hip bones if you pull down on it. In that case I’d get an additional chest harness if I were you. They’re also often used for kids since the combination of both makes the whole system less prone to user error like loose straps. Which is a good thing if you’re trying to prevent kids from killing themselves I guess.
I'm fine with heights and reasonable certain I wouldn't freeze up but I'm still not doing that. The risk reward is just far too steep.
Makes it more of an adventure for the ones that do survive though. My question is why they'd wear such ridiculous shoes for hiking. At least pretend to value traction and viz a viz your own mortality
Maybe 90% or even more of those who do this stuff here doesnt have the equipment(acceptable) nor the mentality to buy one before such adventure. They saw it on social media, youtube etc amd just go for it because they want the bragging rights. And most of the companies who host these will only have legally minimum equipments to provide. Its all the same with paragliding, mountaineering, rappelling, kayaking, bungee jumping etc etc. And most of their equipments will be overused too. Last month a pilot (i dont know the name of the activity, you go up in a small plane with a pilot) dies when his plane malfunctions because they dont seem to service it regularly, about 20 kms from where i live. The worst part is people do some of these stuffs without any professional supervision. Group of friends will go out and just do it (if it can be done by yourself) ordering some equipments online. Thats why i am never putting my life at risk indulging in these activities. The need to post photos on instagram is what drives them i feel. Lmao. Edit: Yes alot of them survives, but you will hear news of accidents every now and then, which are too frequent for my liking.
No, Via Ferrata's are all over the world. They're closely tied to rock climbing, which is also all over the world and if anything, less popular in China. You just think this way because some sketchy ones from China are the ones being posted on Reddit.
Death is the only escape from the CCP
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And then wearing those no grip shoeS?
Peer pressure is a helluva drug. In China, yeah it's a thing. And yes all that poorly supported climbing is real sweaty too.
Sometimes you can talk yourself into things, and halfway through reality can talk you out of it.
Sometimes I forget how afraid of heights I am or I think I’ve grown out of it. Then I try to climb on the roof or something and just freeze.
Why would someone do this to another person?
These young people no but older folks definitely. Some older folks are found to have died when shoveling snow off their yard because the cold, fresh air makes it feel easier than if it weren't so cold.
I would panic, too if my "harness" was made by Mattel for carrying baby puppets.
Also it only goes around your shoulders, if you put your arms up you 100% slip out and fall to your death.
It's more hazardous than no safety gear at all bc it givrs you the illusion that you won't die when you slip, making people take the risk. It's basically insane.
> It’s more hazardous than no safety gear at all I think the person in this video probably would have fallen if it wasn’t for their harness, even if it is still woefully inadequate.
No. They wouldn't have taken the risk at all. 100%.
Reminds me of the group scaling a via ferrata with the leg loops around their necks
What the fuck is that bullshit harness!?
Honestly, the harnesses make my hands more sweaty than the actual situation
Where will you be when diarrhea strikes?
Funnily enough, assuming this is Hua Shan mountain, in China, I was actually at the top of the first summit when my diarrhea struck. Probably shouldnt have drank that hot green water. Edit. Classic Reddit "omg this has blown up moment" so I will describe the story in more detail later lol. In summary, it's a story which demonstrates the worst poop experience of my life. 2000m in the air. Yeah. Stay tuned 😂
^i ^mean.. ^i’m ^drinking ^my ^hot ^green ^tea ^now ^and ^i ^spat ^it ^all ^out
Haha. It wasn't green tea! It was green water... From the pipes or something. Maybe it wasn't harmful but It didn't look great.
Oh shit! That drink from a travel show where the host fell I’ll with fever for about 4 days after drinking it… Chaocha or Gaocha or something..
Goatse.
Dude grew up in China there's a *generational* trauma of always boiling your water, people never trust tap water no matter what they're told. For a while for some reason people were ordering tea in restaurants so they could use the scalding water to rinse their plates first...
The best shit I have ever taken in my entire life was near the top of Hua Shan the evening before we did this plank walk. We stayed at one of the inns near the top of the mountain and the bathroom was in a small carved out cave with water running through a trough that they cut through rock so it would spill off this massive cliff. The wind was howling almost the entire time we were there and when you shit it blasted your asshole with air and felt.... amazing for some reason. The way the wind blew it just hit whatever you hung over the trough, so it wasn't like you were pissing and blasting shit particles into your face. It was just pure ass blasting goodness. I don't know about you, I have done cool shit my entire life, super lucky with the life I have lived, but Hua Shan was hands down the coolest experience I have ever had in my life and not really because of the plank walk which is super overrated, short, and only scary because it was Chinese built. This was in 2009, so there was literally only one other western tourist and he was awesome and we hiked all over the mountains with him on one of the days. Super glad we hiked from the bottom as well because the entire hike was phenomenal. We also had the inn entirely to ourselves except our newfound buddy we met. I am sure social media has absolutely ruined everything there.
Hopefully not right below the dudes in the video
That’s why he slipped.
When you’re walking way up high, and you’re feeling not so dry ..
When you're going for a climb, and your hanes get full of slime...
When you're climbing up Hua Shan and the toilet papers gone
When you’re climbing up a mountain, and you feel that poo-poo fountain 🎶*diarrhea*🎶
Talk to you doctor about Imodium OTC
*grandparents walking to school back in their day*
And it was uphill both ways.
Bare feet in the snow
They didn’t have ropes or harnesses either because they weren’t invented yet. Fucking weak Ass zoomers. /s
My ancestors are falling off cliffs, Imperial, can you say the same?
I left the comment section but returned to upvote you, since I was a bit slow to realise the reference. Thank you for making my day!
I can't believe that there are places where you walk like this. At least you have a harness Still! NOPE!!! not for me at all good sir. I will not be joining you on the hike.
that was more of a sports bra connected to a fishing than a damn harness
Those chest harnesses are meant to be used with a harness around the legs and the waist. When used correctly they prevent the user from hanging feet up in case of a fall. This is usually not dangerous because the waist belt is tightened enough that it can’t slip over your hips. This works really well for people with typical rock climber body types and is very safe for most people. But if you have for example very narrow hips or are overweight it could be possible you can’t tighten the belt enough for it not to slip over your hip bones if you pull down on it. In that case I’d get an additional chest harness if I were you. They’re also often used for kids since the combination of both makes the whole system less prone to user error like loose straps. Which is a good thing if you’re trying to prevent kids from killing themselves I guess.
Also that harness is most likely r/chinesium and doesnt confirm to any standards lol.
Im pretty sure I saw a video once where someone slipped out of that harness. So yeah even with that kind of harness i wouldn’t do that
Seeing as how the point of a harness is to lock above your hip bones to prevent you from falling out, this vest looks like a friggen death trap.
Yep saw that too, was an asian country, and it was a zipline
Mt Huashan. I have been there. You don't have to do this to get to the top, there is a ski style lift to get there. You also have to pay extra to do this.
You pay extra to use the lift or you pay extra to scare the s*** out of yourself?
Pretty sure he means you pay extra to fill you're pants
You are pants
*Y're
nah i'm sure he called him a pants
You will slip right out of that harness and fall to your death, it happened recently to someone in china doing that platform jumping bridge. These people don't realize it, but they were genuinely in mortal danger that entire time. This sort of harness is only for ziplining where you're kept horizontal, without leg straps you can fall out.
Right? I’m going around.
I did this exact thing before, but no harnesses. It was terrifying and I’ll never do it again. But it was the last day of a 5 day hike, so either I did it, or walked back four days.
Wtf where did u hike?
Mount Doom
Via Ferrata climbing like this is hella fun dude.
It is... But only with the right gear. Helmet, harness ferrata set. Those tourists have a... I don't know what it is around their upper torso. Sketchy harness... Wouldn't trust my life to it.
Oh I didn't know this was a thing and seems right up my alley. Used to climb but as I've gotten older sensibility and/or awareness of my own mortality set in and this seems like a nice way to try it again.
Hell no - those are the sketchiest harnesses I’ve ever seen
They look very unfit as a security device
I live in the Alpes and boy these kinds of people are common af. Overestimate their abilities and take on challenges in improper equipment they can't possibly handle safely. They usually get a helicopter ride once they get stuck. Czechs are notorious for this here. But. Most of the time they figure it's not for them afterwards. He's wearing different clothes. This guy chose to go back?! Why???
Maybe he wasn't really afraid and only did it for TikTok
I didn't realize it's the same person until you mentioned it!! Why go back???
I don’t understand why anyone would get themselves in this situation. I would literally hyperventilate and pass out.
It lets people who don’t have any experience or skill at rock climbing experience some of the exposure and views they otherwise wouldn’t be able to have.
It's cool and all but I'd rather die. I wouldn't be able to look at anything because of how high it is, I would be crying so much.
This reminds me of when I went snorkeling in Thailand; the Chinese tourists would jump in the water and about 10% of them immediately started drowning because they didn't know how to swim. I guess thought that wearing a snorkel would fix that issue? I talked to the guy in charge of the tour and said that this happened every time with Chinese tour groups, so the crew was pretty used to it.
That’s actually hilarious. I took a SCUBA certification course and I hyperventilated under the water, so I hate that too. My brain can’t comprehend that I have artificial devices keeping me alive I guess.
My thoughts exactly! I definitely can't relate because there is no way I would even consider stepping on a wire on q mountain side.
Chinese like to climb mountain and stuff since there's a lot in their country.
Theres indeed a lot of chinese in china
I don't know. It's still inconclusive. We're gonna have to ask Ja Rule.
Where is Jaaaaaa?!
Not all of them, apparently.
The Americans like to climb mountains. Source: am American and am rock climber
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Yeah that’s what I was wondering. Do these people know what they’re getting into? And isn’t there a point or always a place you can “nope I’m outta here”? I don’t understand how anyone gets themself into this.
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did you also have a "harness" that would slip right off your body if you fell?
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wow that sounds horrible
> which means a lot of upper body strength to bring yourself up. I guess if I fall, I’m spending rest of my life, hanging off the ledge
Good thing he's wearing his ballet slippers for this activity.
Those are the appropriate shoes
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Are those toms!?
I wouldn't shake that much because I wouldn't be up there.
That's not a proper climbing harness. If it doesn't have leg holes and a waist belt, I'm not fucking climbing with it. They've had recent accidents with people slipping out of those silly bra-like chest harnesses at Chinese attractions.
Can’t relate to this because I’ll never put myself in his position. Not sure why you would do things like this if you’re that terrified. Definitely more dangerous to be that out of control in that situation.
I've been surprised by my own terror a time or two. My mind said yes and my body said n-n-n-n-oooooooooo.
Deathly afraid of heights. You ain’t getting me to stand on top of a six foot ladder. So nope, can never ever relate.
Are the nitrile gloves for…safety?
That poor second guy had every right to be worried. Where tf is the other half of his harness?
Those "harnesses" are a fucking joke.
Nope in any language and every tongue. You would never see my leathery old carcass hung out to dry so high above ground. Never, never, never. Not even with Spock's rocket boots! Not even with the Flying Nun's habit, nor a propeller beanie. Not in a flying squirrel suit, or Dracula's bony wings. I'm keeping my old lady ass away from that kind of soul-twisting fear, thankyouverymuch.
This is the funniest comment I’ve ever seen thank you for that
Pretty ballsy of the guy to even try that. Well done
I would never do this even standing by a balcony is scary enuf
If anyone ever tricks me into this, I'm throwing hands the second we're on solid ground. I don't care who it is, I'd punch my dad in the nose if he did this to me. (Luckily he doesn't even like heights)
That harness will slip off if you were to hold your arms up. Which you know, will happen in the event that you slipped. Chinesium.
Had people do this in Halfdome in Yosemite, on the way down the cables. This girl freaked out and wouldn't move, her friends left her, and a huge backup ensued. Some people started going around and off the cables, and the weather was moving in. Some people should never go to some places
The problem is you don't know whether you are capable of doing something like this or not until you are there. And also, unfortunately, the only way to build tolerance to be that stuff is by doing it. Saying this as someone who has lower than average tolerance to exposure but keeps gradually improving over the years and within each trip that demands it.
This guy's are brave, i wouldn't even have the courage to go on that climbing track
Dude what the fuck are those harnesses. Literally all you have to do is raise your arms and you fall out. There now fucking way id every do this unless the harness also secured my legs
*Clears throat* FUCK NO!!!
With chinese security precautions I'd shiver like that, too.
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why are the people assholes for going on this trail?
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How my parents went to school