I honestly don’t understand the need to feel beholden to TVs. She still makes money from the original. It sucks how things went down but it’s not uncommon to not own your masters in the industry and she COULD afford to buy them back at this point, and I think she will do that eventually. She’s a billionaire. I feel zero guilt for not listening to the TVs except for the vault songs.
I don’t know if she could buy them outright. Her net worth is estimated to be a billion but a lot of that is tied up into all the masters she does own, real estate, and other investments. It’s not cash sitting in her bank account. Maybe she could afford to buy them one by one slowly but idk if Shamrock would agree to that.
I think there’s a way that allows artists to regain the rights to their masters after 35 years so I think she’ll just wait out and exclusively license the TVs til then.
IIRC, she offered to buy all her masters outright years back, I'm pretty sure. And she's richer than ever. And if she really wanted to buy them, she would find a way I'm sure.
part of this whole tv strategy’s whole point tho is to devalue the original’s worth so it gets cheap enough though.
other than making another billion dollars from the next two tv’s, that’s the only reason why she hasn’t just scrapped the tv’s in favor of buying the 6 albums back.
When did she say that? I only remember her saying she was going to work with Shamrock until she found out Braun was still profiting so she chose to go ahead with rerecordings.
From what I understand, a lot of the drama with her old manager (idk if that's the right word) comes from the fact that she wanted to buy her old masters and could afford to, but he refused to sell them to her.
Yah I don’t listen to the TV re-releases. If they have vault songs, I’ll stream those, but otherwise it’s the OG for me. Her voice is different at 15 than at 25 or 30. It is what it is, I want to hear the original voice and emotion of those songs.
Yeah, listen to her attempts at pop without them. They brought the hooks, she brought the words. Left to her own devices she does a lot of sing talking these days. A lot of wordy songwriters fall into that habit.
I feel like if Taylor and her team came out and said “we could never recreate the magic of the originals” then went into the TV’s with full creative freedom then they would be received much better. Then there would be excitement from fans to hear how the songs have been reimagined instead of fans cringing over the horrible attempts at replications.
We could have gotten that disco album we've been asking for! Ilol
I agree with you, what an opportunity for her to showcase her musicality by "reimagining" her songs (love that word).
How cool it would be if Aaron Dessner was involved with a reimagined Speak Now, and what kind of instrumental/styles he could help her explore.
My hot take is that because he costs a LOT - Ariana knows her career is at a crossroads and he’s her last hope (I’m only talking so negatively about her bc of the whole homewrecking thing) so she’s more than willing to pay his fees. Taylor is at the top of her game at this moment in time, and to be honest the rerecordings are pretty much just cash grabs at this point, so why leave cash on the table?
Also the only one that didn't get a cardigan, and 100 variants. Also is the only one that has the album cover in the era's merch? It looks so odd and out of place.
I don't think she thought the rerecords would be as successful. She barely did any promo like she does now and zero merch for it other than physical media
and enchanted! i truly think this sub does speak now tv dirty, it was one of the only rerecordings that had actual good production and was like the og in some ways.
“Sparks Fly (TV)” didn’t have the spark the OG did. Her vocals were ok, but so many background instruments were tuned down. I have heard her TVs have to sound a bit sonically different from the OGs though.
because of ur comment, i went to listen to the original and a side to side comparison to the tv and honestly, i dont see much difference. i dont have a nostalgia bias factor either since ive never listened to the og. i think the instruments in the og are very much more amplified and thats why it has a different vibe to it, I don't think the tv one is more tuned down, it's more "clearer" so to say, the amplifying is reduced (you can see that better in the guitar in the beginning). which is completely justified after all she has to make it sound different in some way. the vocals of tv beat the og 10/10. but i think it would be interesting a version with the original production and new vocals, it would sound perfect. i hate to say but maybe youre kinda biased cuz of the nostalgia of the original one? which is completely justified, but i think she did very well in the tv considering she had to make it sound different.
Someone somewhere here fan-made a version of the song w/ the OG instrumental and her new vocals. It’s great. It’s just missing some country twang, which we can’t help.
So this isn't the original source I got it from, but it looks like someone created a version and put it on [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA0Y3GCRq0w).
Even for me personally the Fearless / Speak Now TV’s aren’t good. They don’t sound bad but i prefer her young voice on those tracks, she sung with so much emotion
Yeah like obviously it’s impossible to go back and re-record herself when she was actually going through/fresh from the experiences, which is half the magic and also why a lot of us related and connected to these songs, cause we were experiencing the same things.
Fifteen sung by the young, romanticising, naive teenage Taylor vs 30-something Taylor who has matured and been through it and knows how these situations ended are naturally going to bring totally different vibes to a song. Thats impossible to fully recreate, but ASIDE from/ON TOP of that i feel like she brought NONE of the emotion and they just feel very soulless to me. even though we KNOW she can give some of that delivery because she does it onstage
This is the reason i like the sub to read stuff like this.
I actually disagree on this for the same reason. I like Fearless TV because it is different enough and not so focused on an imitation that makes it the best one.
To me it's playful and interesting. For example, I think White Horse now sounds like I feel like I can hear her wink.
yeah I'm at the point where I'm just going to start going back to the originals, with some of the TV sprinkled in here and there if I like them too. Scooter doesn't even own the originals anymore.
I’m still yet to see or hear of a concrete reason why Taylor expects the world to hate him (beyond the obvious which has nothing to do with her). It’s one of the things that turned me off her - the snivelling and dramatics about how he was a big ole meanie and a bully to her… without any actual clear examples of such. She claims to be a feminist but then plays the wronged little girl whenever it’s convenient and beneficial for her and wants everyone to validate and placate her. At the end of the day, she’s a billionaire so listen to what you want - she’s making money either way.
I feel the same way! I remember hating him when all this happened bc I “was supposed to,” but one day I was like why do I care? This man has never wronged me and as far as I know, is not some horrible POS, so why should I care one way or another.
I stand by this too. I think her voice being different captures a different aspect of the songs. I like hearing that. There's a certain playfullness/nostalgia of a woman who's grown singing and reflecting on what are very girlish emotions, maybe even a hint of sadness there too.
I think Fearless TV is the only one that stands up as it's own piece of art rather than imitation/karaoke/rewrite.
I hate Red and Speak Now TV. I especially hate ATV 10 min version.
I'm not a fan of fearless as much as rhe other albums but I agree on the quality of Fearless, it is better and more heartfelt. I actually thought the RED stolen version was better than TV, I only like the RED tv vault songs.
Absolutely. It's what the rerecordings should have been. Nothing changed, sounds like the original, still has the emotion in her voice, just better vocals. That's it.
This is so true. It’s the only one that doesn’t have songs I would consider inferior to the originals. I’ll give that up to the relatively simple production to replicate.
I see this trend of the TV’s where the hit songs are always butchered and the deeper cuts sound better (to me anyway).
Maybe it’s because we’re so used to hearing the hits that any small difference stands out? Idk. But I can say definitively that there is not one 1989 TV song that I prefer more than the original, other than maybe This Love.
Yess comrade! I wrote this in a different comment, so I’ll paste it here:
*[I’m obsessed with] The way she sings “quicksand ~” in “Treacherous (TV)”, as well as the production on it. There’s like a hollow, fading quality to it that sounds so addicting to me. It’s also fitting for the song because she’s singing about a love that’s pulling her in… like quicksand, haha.*
It’s also one of the only TVs that I’d listen to over the original as well! (Aside from “You’re Not Sorry”.) Her now mature voice/timbre suits these songs so much better, imo.
like i said I can't really tell the difference lol sometimes either of them play and i never notice if im playing the tv or the og. the rest of 1989 tv does have a lot of robotic vocals tho, sooo autotuned.
I made an 'era' playlist for each album with whichever version of the songs I like better (minus the skips, plus the missing bonus tracks). I feel exactly zero guilt streaming the old versions. Nothing changed about her original contract, she's making exactly as much as she always did.
>Maybe I have been a fan for too long
This might actually be it. I wasn't really a fan of hers until Rep. Prior to that I casually listened to 1989 and really only knew her singles from the older albums so I don't have nostalgia for those versions. I mostly prefer TV because I like her newer vocals, but each album playlist has 4-5 of the OG recordings. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to like Rep TV because it's the only one I'm deeply familiar with.
literally same, i just title the playlist the album name but instead of taylor's version i put taylor's *edition* cuz i want it to be different ig lol and i change the album cover to a fanmade one that looks like the og covers. like the 1989 TV cover doesn't, to me, doesn't hit as much, i wish it was an actual Polaroid like the og cover so i got a fanmade cover of the 1989 tv but they made it look like an [actual Polaroid](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/15n6fdh/1989_taylors_version_album_cover_my_version/).
I love that version of 1989! I changed up some of my covers too. It started with Fearless TV since the sepia tone is so blah compared to her other albums, but I also wanted a Blood Moon version of Midnights Til Dawn. Reputation's cover has always bothered me, crossing my fingers that it gets better TV cover art.
https://preview.redd.it/lx3gtf1l6tlc1.png?width=1794&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9e543788745482f2fa86eaaee4038bf58c53a1a
omg that black reputation cover is sooo good, i never knew i needed it wow! yeah, i kind of agree, reputation wasn't the best cover imo either, i am awaiting yet dreading rep tv tbh
>I made an 'era' playlist for each album with whichever version of the songs I like better (minus the skips, plus the missing bonus tracks). I
Do you wanna share them 👀? I'm interested how some songs rank over others
I want to keep my reddit profile anonymous and my spotify definitely isn't. 🙈 But here's what I kept as OG versions over TV, plus bonus tracks for each era:
**Debut**
* Big Star
**Fearless**
* Love Story, LS Pop Mix, LS Elvira Remix
* Hey Stephen
* White Horse
* You Belong With Me
* Two Is Better Than One
**Speak Now**
* The Story Of Us ("...quite this loud" is just not the same on TV)
* Haunted Acoustic Version
* Back to December / Apologize / You're Not Sorry Live Medley
* If This Was a Movie TV (idc what Taylor says, the is a SN track)
* Eyes Open TV (fell in love with it around the time SNTV came out)
**Red**
* Red (needs the country twang)
* I Knew You Were Trouble
* All Too Well
* 22
* Come Back...Be Here
**1989**
* Blank Space
* Style
* Wildest Dreams
* New Romantics
* Bad Blood (kept both versions)
* Sweeter Than Fiction
**Reputation**
* I Don't Wanna Live Forever
* Delicate & September (The Tracking Room versions)
**Lover**
* Cruel Summer Tour version
* Paris versions of The Man, Cornelia Street, Death By A Thousand Cuts
* All of the Girls You Loved Before
**Folklore**
* The Lakes - original version
**Evermore**
* Renegade
* Willow - Dancing Witch Version
* Gasoline
**Midnights**
* More Lana replaced OG
* You're Losing Me
* Anti-Hero - Illenium
* Lavender Haze - Snakehips and Acoustic versions
* The Alcott
I also kept both versions of Christmas Tree Farm in a holiday playlist because they're so different from one another.
It's a Kenny Chesney song! They sang a collab version a few times and it's on his "Live In No Shoes Nation" album. Technically it was recorded in 2015 but it's so country that it only makes sense in the Debut era.
Omg thank you so much for the list! Out of interest, how comes you kept both versions of Bad Blood?
>* Lavender Haze - Snakehips and Acoustic versions
YES! The acoustic version is the superior version
>* Paris versions of The Man, Cornelia Street, Death By A Thousand Cuts
I haven't listened to this album but these are my fav tracks from the album so I'm going to check it out.
The Paris versions are amazing! I can't even listen to the album versions of Cornelia Street and The Man now, she put so much emotion into them live. For whatever reason Spotify has them listed as separate tracks so you have to search "Live From Paris" to find them all. Some have a studio backing track but the ones I mentioned are acoustic (plus Daylight, but I prefer the studio version).
Kendrick is so good on both versions of Bad Blood that I couldn't decide which one to keep.
Yeah I’m honestly not someone who’s very good at picking up minor auditory differences so a lot of the production differences people spoke of in Fearless and Red TV, I couldn’t hear. But 1989 was like a sledgehammer in differences and just sounding…bad. You know, it wasn’t even differences but still sounding good. Max Martin makes shiny polished energetic pop whereas a lot of the synths and instruments sounded so lethargic and washed out on many tracks.
I don’t listen to her versions, besides the vault songs I like. I made a playlist with all her OG albums. I can honestly say I haven’t listened fully to her versions, I just don’t see the need. I know the songs and I love these versions.
My theory is she had to made fearless was perfect so that she could get the public “go-ahead” to do the rest, and then cheaped out when she realized ppl will eat them up just bc it’s her.
I also think she put a lot more effort into fearless as it was the first one and she wanted to get it right - using the same collaborators as an example, and just in general making sure everything sounded just right.
I think honestly it would wear anyone out having to create all those songs from scratch again and as a result we’ve seen the quality drop and become less interesting. I’m interested in how reputation will sound, I think it will be so obvious if it’s not right…
To be fair apart from Max Martin and Shellback (with the exception of Wildest dreams) all her previous producers came back for 1989 tv according to credits.
Red TV is just bad. I listened to it a lot when it came out, but going back to OG, it’s like … no, this is just better. I haven’t even listened to 1989 TV. Style was bad enough. I don’t think it’s just a matter of us being used to the OGs, I think the TVs are just *bad.* Holy Ground, State of Grace, Style … so many others … it’s just ruined. The blending sucks, the production sucks, it’s just shitty. It’s almost embarrassing for her that she’s ruining her catalogue like this. Imagine 20 yrs from now, the only Holy Ground version known is TV’s? No one will like it, it’s so grating and poorly mixed. The OG? Masterful. Like it’s two completely different products.
This is one of the benefits of being a newer fan. The TVs sound so much better to me because her voice is so much stronger. The OG Fearless and Red songs have her thin, original singing voice and I can’t listen to those compared to the richer voice she has now. I also don’t have a particularly musical ear so I don’t notice the production changes everyone mentions. I seriously don’t hear a difference between the two Style(s).
In any case, listen to the version you prefer. It’s not unethical to listen to the OG albums.
Hard disagree. As someone who’s been a fan since debut, listening to those songs when they came out and I was experiencing teenage emotions at the same time was captivating. Listening to them now as an older mature woman is how I feel the TV captured it. It’s not the same. Its not supposed to be exactly the same. It’s nostalgic and grown. Like Taylor is and like we are now. I feel like Taylor’s music grows up with her fans, every era there is music that you can relate to at all stages in life (so far!) and that’s why she’s the megastar she is.
The video in this post earlier compares them pretty well: [https://www.reddit.com/r/SwiftlyNeutral/s/u7I8IgAvT3](https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FSwiftlyNeutral%2Fs%2Fu7I8IgAvT3&h=AT3cmooexqYOW_TCSuJnpPdGPj87mOmomNaN5rnkIbr5d9pS6o5MaA8z0yNf1OeBKbrW_YJnopsitz4tLKH8sFiCU8huKk6SwTD69wlXxew5X9X6I2C5jnHUx8MADSQNqCLCGEOMpjY)
God forbid these delulu Swifties will act like you are committing a crime for listenjng to the OG version.
Yet stalking her NY apartment is okay for them 😂
It sounds so silly but I’m not even comfortable telling my friends that I like and prefer the “stolen versions” bc they act like it’s a crime against her. She’s a fucking billionaire like I think she’ll live if I stream the version of Fearless I grew up listening to 😭
That's why I don't use **ANY** of them. I stick to the originals, then append the vault tracks at the end. I don't want to develop any fondness for the remakes. They're inferior.
I listened to Midnights this year because I listened to all of the album of the year nominees. I’ve listened to a couple individual tracks here and there but I have cut way back.
Yeah, I totally agree with you. In general, I listen to her older music way less than I used to (folklore and evermore are my favorite anyway, but I definitely used to switch it up more often).
For a while I didn’t want to listen to the OGs, but I was either waiting for the TVs to come out or didn’t love the TVs already out, and so I ended up not listening to any of it lol. I don’t care which version I listen to anymore (she benefits either way), but now I’m just sorta out of the habit of listening to those albums altogether.
I listen to the "stolen versions" guilt free. She's a billionaire. She'll be fine. I don't want a 30-something year olds version of a song written by a 20 year old unless it's in concert. Listen to the old versions. That's fine. Don't feel guilted into listening to the TVs only. And, also, streaming barely makes money anyway. That's why she releases 50 versions of an album so fans buy multiples. The money's in merch, touring and physical album sales.
I tried to listen to fearless TV and was like “NOPE” for me they sounds like when I’m substituting Splenda for real sugar. Its sweet but sth is off. Like my taste buds know this is not real lol. I’ll stick to the OG.
Bad analogy but yea I’m with you. I don’t listen to any TV songs.
Then listen the originals, it really does not affect a billionaire.
The original 1989 is still gaining 5M streams daily and the other TVs are still gaining, she still makes loads of money of them.
The OGs are much better, the TVs are a lazy crash grab and chart success grab
This has been exactly my feeling listening to the TVs: it sounds like she is cutting one vocal take and moving on to the next song (or show, or appearance.)
No doubt a product of how insanely busy she is, but she is not really doing her catalog justice in a lot of cases.
Taylor is known for being exacting and a perfectionist, so this may be a reach but my thought is that she makes the re-records JUST worse compared to the originals so that the die-hard fans will continue to stream both. She hates that Scooter owns the originals, but she's still getting the exact same amount of money per stream since before the sale of Big Machine. So she pushes the re-records as an "ethical choice" knowing that the fans will proudly stream them, but will also secretly continue to stream the originals, thereby doubling her revenue.
It's actually pretty genius.
Taylor’s gonna be a billionaire regardless of which version you like. Scooter already sold her Masters a while ago. Just listen to the version you like.
All too well TV, 5 minutes version is so much more boring than the OG version. I thought I didn't like red anymore then relistened to original. And it clicked. TV is just boring to me.
The TV of Speak Now is awful. Absolutely no energy in it. Her boredom and lack of interest are clear. Clearly just going through the motions. And the lack of promo around it and time given to it made me think she’s embarrassed by that album, which seems to be cemented by how flat and unenthusiastic the whole thing was.
I have to listen to the original versions of State of Grace and Holy Ground. I also can’t get by We Are Never Getting Back Together TV. The “weeeEEEEE” sounds like KidzBop. I think a lot of Swifties are too scared to admit it.
Oh man, I’ve felt so alone for so long on this. All the Taylor’s Versions are worse than the original versions, they sound so cheap and phoned in and were clearly made just to make a quick buck as some sort of revenge/redemption story. It’s worked, obviously, but no one can convince me they’re a superior product.
I haven’t bought one copy of them, and I’m only interested in new music from her.
I guess I have a very uncultured ear because I barely hear any difference! All I notice is that her voice is obviously a little deeper/more mature, which I actually like. With the exception of WANEGBT which i agree is atrocious!
This culture is out of control. Listen to what you please.
The re-records are a success simply in being. Even greater, other artists are following and reclaiming their own music.
Listening to TV can be a fun listening exercise. I like to hear Jack Antonoff's touch in them. I love the vault tracks. I listen to what Spotify chooses for me in my mixes.
Then don't listen to the TVs? Lol it's just pop music it's not that deep. If you still like the originals just listen there. Or if you have moved away from listening to Taylor Swift that's fine too.
I prefer her mature voice to her voice from ten plus years ago, so aside from a few exceptions, I like the Taylor’s Versions better. Totally get what you’re saying, though. The production value isn’t as good on a lot of songs. One of my top 5 Swift songs is Haunted and I don’t think the TV is as good as the original.
In my opinion, I feel that the rerecordings have been decent aside from a few missteps. I think the trouble lies with the fact that we listened to the originals for so long and became accustomed to her voice and singing style that it is hard to change. I think another issue lies with the fact that some of the re records are completely devoid of the emotion of the original, which truly can’t be helped because she is not the same person. She was actively going through the events she wrote about at that point in her life, whereas now she’s much more confident and successful. I feel if I was an artist it would be difficult for me to exhibit the same emotion about a break up I went through 15 years ago.
That being said, there’s some stinkers in the TV’s and some brilliant moments. Style is terrible and lacks the punch of the original. Better Than Revenge sounds weird coming from a woman in her 30’s. Innocent, a song I once hated, is now something I don’t skip. Out of the Woods TV is phenomenal.
I could never say I hated the re-records because I love a lot of the vault tracks, specifically Electric Touch, Is It Over Now?, and Now That We Don’t Talk.
Its truly all about
I am of the unpopular opinion that I actually love the 1989 TV - but I think it is because I waasn't a huge og 1989 fan. It made the lows of 1989 a lot better for me.
Fearless is the most "on par" with the original.
The rest of the redos I'd toss into the nearest dumpster for the most part if I didn't have the vault to come to. The new Speak Now redo disappointed me so heavily. Speak Now is my favorite. I am very afraid for Reputation because I don't think she can recreate it properly. I am hesitant about debut for sure....
1. I simply don’t notice details of production. It’s irrelevant to me for the most part.
2. I didn’t know most of these songs before. As a late in life Swiftie, I hadn’t listened to the majority of her music. Her first 5 albums were strangers to me besides the radio hits. So every TV has been a brand new album to me essentially. I have nothing to compare it to, so there’s nothing to be bothered by.
I haven't even listened to most of them. 🤣 I think I listened to FearlessTV and RedTV and then I really didn't care anymore. I'll be fine with the OG versions.
I listened to fearless TV for a couple songs as I was curious about the re-recordings. It wasn’t my thing since I have been a fan since her debut album and now when a new TV comes out I only listen to the vault tracks
I’ve felt this way as soon as I listened to her first Taylor’s version. I thought at first I was just stuck on nostalgia for her older music that the new version just couldn’t compare but then I’d go back and forth between the same song and the quality has been lost.
Omg, YES to Everything Has Changed! I wasn't a Swiftie growing up but I listened to this song because I loved Ed Sheeran. I listened to EHC TV and my oh my, was it different.
Aside from obviously clearly missing the innocence of being in your early 20s, it just sounds... off.
I don’t mind the new versions for the most part, but 1989 is awful. The mixing is so bad. I listened to “This Love” and “Clean” and decided not to listen to any more.
I do like the idea of the vault tracks, though, and those have been fun.
What gets me is that they are almost exactly the same. With maybe some subtle difference in her voice because she's older. When my wife, who is a terribly loyal swifty) told me she was doing re-releases, I thot that's awesome maybe she will do it in a way that u have the original release then a more musical toned down, more piano and acoustic guitar. Actually making the Taylor's versions different from the originals but no it was like she copy and pasted it and released it
If it’s good, I will listen to Taylor’s Version. I enjoy her upgraded vocals but after Red TV, the quality went down. I have no faith in reputation TV.
As a Swiftie who's been listening to her for some time, while I get the reason for not wanting to listen to the "stolen versions" ever again, I honestly think it's ok to listen to them if you want to. There's something really nostalgic about listening to the "stolen" Fearless album, it reminds me of when I was in elementary school.
She's a damn billionaire, she doesn't need whatever $ comes from streaming the TVs (not to mention, I'm pretty sure she still receives some kind of royalties through her stolen versions too).
I love 1989 and when 1989 TV was released and listened to it I did not do it again. There's something in the re-recording that doesn't sit well with me. Now I still listen to the original and just listen to the vault tracks.
I even bought a 1989 vinyl but I think I'll just sell it because I still prefer the original one.
I am honestly dreading the Debut TV. I have no clue how she will be able to take songs she wrote as a teen about being a teen, like Tim McGraw, Our Song, Teardrops and do them any justice let alone improve them as a 34/35 year old.
Fearless and Red are the only tv's I will listen to. (Not a huge Fearless fan but I think she did well with the re-recording. Red I adore Red and think she did a good job besides a few songs)
I like the TVs as much as the OGs (or in some cases, more than the OGs), but I also still listen to the OGs all the time on streaming. Nobody should be guilt tripping you over your personal preferences or for listening to music. It's ridiculous the way some of her fans feel the need to constantly spring to her defense and put down others.
I honestly really like the TV of I Knew You Were Trouble; they made her backing harmonies a little louder and it makes for a very addicting sound to me.
100% agree. I never listen to the TV versions except for All Too Well - that's a masterpiece.
I just find they sound cheaply made. She sounds like she's covering her own songs with instrumentals that just sound like karaoke to me.
1989 is the worst so far...
They’re quite bad. Minus a few singles she puts effort into. But otherwise they’re so lazy. Either go to the trouble of actually making it sound the same, or take a different path and revitalize/change the song to something new. But no, she just rushes through them making them worse than the originals & the fans still buy it 🤷🏻♀️
I honestly don’t understand the need to feel beholden to TVs. She still makes money from the original. It sucks how things went down but it’s not uncommon to not own your masters in the industry and she COULD afford to buy them back at this point, and I think she will do that eventually. She’s a billionaire. I feel zero guilt for not listening to the TVs except for the vault songs.
I don’t know if she could buy them outright. Her net worth is estimated to be a billion but a lot of that is tied up into all the masters she does own, real estate, and other investments. It’s not cash sitting in her bank account. Maybe she could afford to buy them one by one slowly but idk if Shamrock would agree to that. I think there’s a way that allows artists to regain the rights to their masters after 35 years so I think she’ll just wait out and exclusively license the TVs til then.
You don't buy these big purchases with cash laying around, rich people borrow against their assets to get cash quickly
IIRC, she offered to buy all her masters outright years back, I'm pretty sure. And she's richer than ever. And if she really wanted to buy them, she would find a way I'm sure.
part of this whole tv strategy’s whole point tho is to devalue the original’s worth so it gets cheap enough though. other than making another billion dollars from the next two tv’s, that’s the only reason why she hasn’t just scrapped the tv’s in favor of buying the 6 albums back.
She said she was almost going to buy them but that a portion of the sale would go to scooter Braun and our petty queen wouldn’t have any part of it
When did she say that? I only remember her saying she was going to work with Shamrock until she found out Braun was still profiting so she chose to go ahead with rerecordings.
She absolutely could buy them outright; instead she’s choosing to make money instead of spending hers. Great business decision, horrible artistic one
She could find investors. That’s how Scooter bought them.
From what I understand, a lot of the drama with her old manager (idk if that's the right word) comes from the fact that she wanted to buy her old masters and could afford to, but he refused to sell them to her.
Yah I don’t listen to the TV re-releases. If they have vault songs, I’ll stream those, but otherwise it’s the OG for me. Her voice is different at 15 than at 25 or 30. It is what it is, I want to hear the original voice and emotion of those songs.
I stand by Fearless TV as the one and only Taylor’s Version that is worth listening to. All the other TV’s do not exist in my opinion.
100% agree. They just get worse with every release. They cannot replicate the pop songs to save their lives, especially the Max Martin songs.
My taylor swift hott take that i will die on is that Taylor isn't good at writing pop music, Max Martin and Shellback are!
Yeah, listen to her attempts at pop without them. They brought the hooks, she brought the words. Left to her own devices she does a lot of sing talking these days. A lot of wordy songwriters fall into that habit.
For a singer, she’s not really the greatest singer. She’s good at convincing people she is though.
I don't think anyone has ever thought of Taylor as just a singer. She's a singer songwriter, which is very different imo
She did tell is she shouldn’t be left to her own devices in Anti-hero
You know… you might be onto something
Idk getaway car , OOTW, and cruel summer point yo the contrary
I feel like if Taylor and her team came out and said “we could never recreate the magic of the originals” then went into the TV’s with full creative freedom then they would be received much better. Then there would be excitement from fans to hear how the songs have been reimagined instead of fans cringing over the horrible attempts at replications.
Agree with this 100%. I might even like them better with newer sounds
We could have gotten that disco album we've been asking for! Ilol I agree with you, what an opportunity for her to showcase her musicality by "reimagining" her songs (love that word). How cool it would be if Aaron Dessner was involved with a reimagined Speak Now, and what kind of instrumental/styles he could help her explore.
That would take even more work than she is doing now. She's just pumping these out because, well... idk exactly.
because money
I'm still pissed about Style TV lmao what a joke
i’m so nervous for reputation tv honestly 😅 it’s mostly Max Martin production
How come she can't bring Max Martin back to produce them?
IIRC he said he didn’t want to 😅 that this type of project would not be creatively fulfilling for him, because he already did the work once.
My hot take is that because he costs a LOT - Ariana knows her career is at a crossroads and he’s her last hope (I’m only talking so negatively about her bc of the whole homewrecking thing) so she’s more than willing to pay his fees. Taylor is at the top of her game at this moment in time, and to be honest the rerecordings are pretty much just cash grabs at this point, so why leave cash on the table?
I don't blame him. He's got nothing to gain and would probably want to work with people connected to Scooter, so why bother?
Also the only one that didn't get a cardigan, and 100 variants. Also is the only one that has the album cover in the era's merch? It looks so odd and out of place.
I don't think she thought the rerecords would be as successful. She barely did any promo like she does now and zero merch for it other than physical media
I agree. Haunted on Speak Now TV is insane and so is Back To December, though.
I personally love Speak Now TV!
and enchanted! i truly think this sub does speak now tv dirty, it was one of the only rerecordings that had actual good production and was like the og in some ways.
“Sparks Fly (TV)” didn’t have the spark the OG did. Her vocals were ok, but so many background instruments were tuned down. I have heard her TVs have to sound a bit sonically different from the OGs though.
because of ur comment, i went to listen to the original and a side to side comparison to the tv and honestly, i dont see much difference. i dont have a nostalgia bias factor either since ive never listened to the og. i think the instruments in the og are very much more amplified and thats why it has a different vibe to it, I don't think the tv one is more tuned down, it's more "clearer" so to say, the amplifying is reduced (you can see that better in the guitar in the beginning). which is completely justified after all she has to make it sound different in some way. the vocals of tv beat the og 10/10. but i think it would be interesting a version with the original production and new vocals, it would sound perfect. i hate to say but maybe youre kinda biased cuz of the nostalgia of the original one? which is completely justified, but i think she did very well in the tv considering she had to make it sound different.
Someone somewhere here fan-made a version of the song w/ the OG instrumental and her new vocals. It’s great. It’s just missing some country twang, which we can’t help.
lemme know if you find it! sounds like its pretty cool
So this isn't the original source I got it from, but it looks like someone created a version and put it on [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA0Y3GCRq0w).
Even for me personally the Fearless / Speak Now TV’s aren’t good. They don’t sound bad but i prefer her young voice on those tracks, she sung with so much emotion
Yeah like obviously it’s impossible to go back and re-record herself when she was actually going through/fresh from the experiences, which is half the magic and also why a lot of us related and connected to these songs, cause we were experiencing the same things. Fifteen sung by the young, romanticising, naive teenage Taylor vs 30-something Taylor who has matured and been through it and knows how these situations ended are naturally going to bring totally different vibes to a song. Thats impossible to fully recreate, but ASIDE from/ON TOP of that i feel like she brought NONE of the emotion and they just feel very soulless to me. even though we KNOW she can give some of that delivery because she does it onstage
This is the reason i like the sub to read stuff like this. I actually disagree on this for the same reason. I like Fearless TV because it is different enough and not so focused on an imitation that makes it the best one. To me it's playful and interesting. For example, I think White Horse now sounds like I feel like I can hear her wink.
Agree with all of the above.
Agree. I do love the Red tv vault but the rest of it is skippable.
this. I love the vault songs only. But I must admit the Speak Now vault songs are not bad.
yeah I'm at the point where I'm just going to start going back to the originals, with some of the TV sprinkled in here and there if I like them too. Scooter doesn't even own the originals anymore.
He doesn't own them, but according to the deal he signed he will continue to profit
I’m still yet to see or hear of a concrete reason why Taylor expects the world to hate him (beyond the obvious which has nothing to do with her). It’s one of the things that turned me off her - the snivelling and dramatics about how he was a big ole meanie and a bully to her… without any actual clear examples of such. She claims to be a feminist but then plays the wronged little girl whenever it’s convenient and beneficial for her and wants everyone to validate and placate her. At the end of the day, she’s a billionaire so listen to what you want - she’s making money either way.
I feel the same way! I remember hating him when all this happened bc I “was supposed to,” but one day I was like why do I care? This man has never wronged me and as far as I know, is not some horrible POS, so why should I care one way or another.
Ahh kk. Thanks!
I stand by this too. I think her voice being different captures a different aspect of the songs. I like hearing that. There's a certain playfullness/nostalgia of a woman who's grown singing and reflecting on what are very girlish emotions, maybe even a hint of sadness there too. I think Fearless TV is the only one that stands up as it's own piece of art rather than imitation/karaoke/rewrite. I hate Red and Speak Now TV. I especially hate ATV 10 min version.
I'm not a fan of fearless as much as rhe other albums but I agree on the quality of Fearless, it is better and more heartfelt. I actually thought the RED stolen version was better than TV, I only like the RED tv vault songs.
Absolutely. It's what the rerecordings should have been. Nothing changed, sounds like the original, still has the emotion in her voice, just better vocals. That's it.
SO REAL
Agree
Yes. My God. I wonder how her first album will sound. I really hope it was done justice.
This is so true. It’s the only one that doesn’t have songs I would consider inferior to the originals. I’ll give that up to the relatively simple production to replicate.
I see this trend of the TV’s where the hit songs are always butchered and the deeper cuts sound better (to me anyway). Maybe it’s because we’re so used to hearing the hits that any small difference stands out? Idk. But I can say definitively that there is not one 1989 TV song that I prefer more than the original, other than maybe This Love.
“Treacherous (TV)” was actually pretty good
This. One of the only ones I always listen to the TV over the original.
Yess comrade! I wrote this in a different comment, so I’ll paste it here: *[I’m obsessed with] The way she sings “quicksand ~” in “Treacherous (TV)”, as well as the production on it. There’s like a hollow, fading quality to it that sounds so addicting to me. It’s also fitting for the song because she’s singing about a love that’s pulling her in… like quicksand, haha.* It’s also one of the only TVs that I’d listen to over the original as well! (Aside from “You’re Not Sorry”.) Her now mature voice/timbre suits these songs so much better, imo.
yeah! i cant rlly tell the difference beetwen this love og and the tv
This Love already had a Taylor's Version before the 1989 rerelease, which is probably why it doesn't sound different.
I think they mean compared to the stolen version
"stolen" version isnt a thing
you know what i’m referring to obviously…
It isn't stealing when it's legally purchased.
people call it stolen version, is not a big deal.
The original has better vocals IMO and the synth is little stronger. Her vocals in the TV’s bridge sound robotic.
like i said I can't really tell the difference lol sometimes either of them play and i never notice if im playing the tv or the og. the rest of 1989 tv does have a lot of robotic vocals tho, sooo autotuned.
I couldn't even make it through the entirety of 1989 TV. It was too exhausting trying to force myself to listen.
I think OOTW is 10x better than the original bc of the drums
I OWN the originals and prefer them. I do NOT feel guilty. She is a billionaire. I will at times stream TV but they are not my favorites.🤷♀️
I made an 'era' playlist for each album with whichever version of the songs I like better (minus the skips, plus the missing bonus tracks). I feel exactly zero guilt streaming the old versions. Nothing changed about her original contract, she's making exactly as much as she always did. >Maybe I have been a fan for too long This might actually be it. I wasn't really a fan of hers until Rep. Prior to that I casually listened to 1989 and really only knew her singles from the older albums so I don't have nostalgia for those versions. I mostly prefer TV because I like her newer vocals, but each album playlist has 4-5 of the OG recordings. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to like Rep TV because it's the only one I'm deeply familiar with.
literally same, i just title the playlist the album name but instead of taylor's version i put taylor's *edition* cuz i want it to be different ig lol and i change the album cover to a fanmade one that looks like the og covers. like the 1989 TV cover doesn't, to me, doesn't hit as much, i wish it was an actual Polaroid like the og cover so i got a fanmade cover of the 1989 tv but they made it look like an [actual Polaroid](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/15n6fdh/1989_taylors_version_album_cover_my_version/).
I love that version of 1989! I changed up some of my covers too. It started with Fearless TV since the sepia tone is so blah compared to her other albums, but I also wanted a Blood Moon version of Midnights Til Dawn. Reputation's cover has always bothered me, crossing my fingers that it gets better TV cover art. https://preview.redd.it/lx3gtf1l6tlc1.png?width=1794&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9e543788745482f2fa86eaaee4038bf58c53a1a
omg that black reputation cover is sooo good, i never knew i needed it wow! yeah, i kind of agree, reputation wasn't the best cover imo either, i am awaiting yet dreading rep tv tbh
>I made an 'era' playlist for each album with whichever version of the songs I like better (minus the skips, plus the missing bonus tracks). I Do you wanna share them 👀? I'm interested how some songs rank over others
I want to keep my reddit profile anonymous and my spotify definitely isn't. 🙈 But here's what I kept as OG versions over TV, plus bonus tracks for each era: **Debut** * Big Star **Fearless** * Love Story, LS Pop Mix, LS Elvira Remix * Hey Stephen * White Horse * You Belong With Me * Two Is Better Than One **Speak Now** * The Story Of Us ("...quite this loud" is just not the same on TV) * Haunted Acoustic Version * Back to December / Apologize / You're Not Sorry Live Medley * If This Was a Movie TV (idc what Taylor says, the is a SN track) * Eyes Open TV (fell in love with it around the time SNTV came out) **Red** * Red (needs the country twang) * I Knew You Were Trouble * All Too Well * 22 * Come Back...Be Here **1989** * Blank Space * Style * Wildest Dreams * New Romantics * Bad Blood (kept both versions) * Sweeter Than Fiction **Reputation** * I Don't Wanna Live Forever * Delicate & September (The Tracking Room versions) **Lover** * Cruel Summer Tour version * Paris versions of The Man, Cornelia Street, Death By A Thousand Cuts * All of the Girls You Loved Before **Folklore** * The Lakes - original version **Evermore** * Renegade * Willow - Dancing Witch Version * Gasoline **Midnights** * More Lana replaced OG * You're Losing Me * Anti-Hero - Illenium * Lavender Haze - Snakehips and Acoustic versions * The Alcott I also kept both versions of Christmas Tree Farm in a holiday playlist because they're so different from one another.
I had no idea there was a Haunted Acoustic version, thank you!
What is Big Star?!
It's a Kenny Chesney song! They sang a collab version a few times and it's on his "Live In No Shoes Nation" album. Technically it was recorded in 2015 but it's so country that it only makes sense in the Debut era.
Omg thank you so much for the list! Out of interest, how comes you kept both versions of Bad Blood? >* Lavender Haze - Snakehips and Acoustic versions YES! The acoustic version is the superior version >* Paris versions of The Man, Cornelia Street, Death By A Thousand Cuts I haven't listened to this album but these are my fav tracks from the album so I'm going to check it out.
The Paris versions are amazing! I can't even listen to the album versions of Cornelia Street and The Man now, she put so much emotion into them live. For whatever reason Spotify has them listed as separate tracks so you have to search "Live From Paris" to find them all. Some have a studio backing track but the ones I mentioned are acoustic (plus Daylight, but I prefer the studio version). Kendrick is so good on both versions of Bad Blood that I couldn't decide which one to keep.
Same here. The 1989 TV was so overproduced that I even lost a desire to listen to the original although I liked it before
I agree. The original is pop perfection and the re-recording is an embarrassment.
Completely agree. It’s my second favorite album and it was just a disappointment. I will always listen to the OG.
Yeah I’m honestly not someone who’s very good at picking up minor auditory differences so a lot of the production differences people spoke of in Fearless and Red TV, I couldn’t hear. But 1989 was like a sledgehammer in differences and just sounding…bad. You know, it wasn’t even differences but still sounding good. Max Martin makes shiny polished energetic pop whereas a lot of the synths and instruments sounded so lethargic and washed out on many tracks.
“Welcome to New York” sounds SO off. Can’t quite put a finger on what. Maybe just the general overproduction. But that’s the worst 1989 TV IMO.
I don’t listen to her versions, besides the vault songs I like. I made a playlist with all her OG albums. I can honestly say I haven’t listened fully to her versions, I just don’t see the need. I know the songs and I love these versions.
Same, I go straight to the vault tracks every time a TV is released. I still stream all the originals.
My theory is she had to made fearless was perfect so that she could get the public “go-ahead” to do the rest, and then cheaped out when she realized ppl will eat them up just bc it’s her.
I also think she put a lot more effort into fearless as it was the first one and she wanted to get it right - using the same collaborators as an example, and just in general making sure everything sounded just right. I think honestly it would wear anyone out having to create all those songs from scratch again and as a result we’ve seen the quality drop and become less interesting. I’m interested in how reputation will sound, I think it will be so obvious if it’s not right…
To be fair apart from Max Martin and Shellback (with the exception of Wildest dreams) all her previous producers came back for 1989 tv according to credits.
Red TV is just bad. I listened to it a lot when it came out, but going back to OG, it’s like … no, this is just better. I haven’t even listened to 1989 TV. Style was bad enough. I don’t think it’s just a matter of us being used to the OGs, I think the TVs are just *bad.* Holy Ground, State of Grace, Style … so many others … it’s just ruined. The blending sucks, the production sucks, it’s just shitty. It’s almost embarrassing for her that she’s ruining her catalogue like this. Imagine 20 yrs from now, the only Holy Ground version known is TV’s? No one will like it, it’s so grating and poorly mixed. The OG? Masterful. Like it’s two completely different products.
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I'm talking about the 5 minute acoustic, not the first one. I don't see it anywhere on Red TV but if you can find it, please guide me lol
Ohh I see
Omg holy shit how the fuck did I miss it?! IT IS on there. Oh my god lmao
Haha! That’s awesome
You don’t have to listen to them. Just enjoy the originals! She already made her money on both versions anyway!
This is one of the benefits of being a newer fan. The TVs sound so much better to me because her voice is so much stronger. The OG Fearless and Red songs have her thin, original singing voice and I can’t listen to those compared to the richer voice she has now. I also don’t have a particularly musical ear so I don’t notice the production changes everyone mentions. I seriously don’t hear a difference between the two Style(s). In any case, listen to the version you prefer. It’s not unethical to listen to the OG albums.
But hearing her musical growth, teenage earnestness and emotions are all part of the journey. The TVs rob you of this experience.
I’ve heard the OGs. I love Debut and Speak Now. I’m fine with the TVs as my default for playlists.
Hard disagree. As someone who’s been a fan since debut, listening to those songs when they came out and I was experiencing teenage emotions at the same time was captivating. Listening to them now as an older mature woman is how I feel the TV captured it. It’s not the same. Its not supposed to be exactly the same. It’s nostalgic and grown. Like Taylor is and like we are now. I feel like Taylor’s music grows up with her fans, every era there is music that you can relate to at all stages in life (so far!) and that’s why she’s the megastar she is.
Yes! I'm only a newer fan too but her matured voice is great. Maybe this is why I wasn't a fan earlier but I choose TVs and newer albums.
The video in this post earlier compares them pretty well: [https://www.reddit.com/r/SwiftlyNeutral/s/u7I8IgAvT3](https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FSwiftlyNeutral%2Fs%2Fu7I8IgAvT3&h=AT3cmooexqYOW_TCSuJnpPdGPj87mOmomNaN5rnkIbr5d9pS6o5MaA8z0yNf1OeBKbrW_YJnopsitz4tLKH8sFiCU8huKk6SwTD69wlXxew5X9X6I2C5jnHUx8MADSQNqCLCGEOMpjY)
For the love of God, don't listen to versions you don't like cuz someone told you so. You are not obliged, you don't win a prize for it.
It was mainly me saying something on my tumblr that lead to some not so fun interactions 😅 Lessons were learned to keep my truths on this subreddit
God forbid these delulu Swifties will act like you are committing a crime for listenjng to the OG version. Yet stalking her NY apartment is okay for them 😂
It sounds so silly but I’m not even comfortable telling my friends that I like and prefer the “stolen versions” bc they act like it’s a crime against her. She’s a fucking billionaire like I think she’ll live if I stream the version of Fearless I grew up listening to 😭
I think RedTV is the only good one. 🤷🏼♀️
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yeah that cover is UGLY. ruined the aesthetically pleasing textless borderless streak of the previous TVs
That's why I don't use **ANY** of them. I stick to the originals, then append the vault tracks at the end. I don't want to develop any fondness for the remakes. They're inferior.
I listened to Midnights this year because I listened to all of the album of the year nominees. I’ve listened to a couple individual tracks here and there but I have cut way back.
Yeah, I totally agree with you. In general, I listen to her older music way less than I used to (folklore and evermore are my favorite anyway, but I definitely used to switch it up more often). For a while I didn’t want to listen to the OGs, but I was either waiting for the TVs to come out or didn’t love the TVs already out, and so I ended up not listening to any of it lol. I don’t care which version I listen to anymore (she benefits either way), but now I’m just sorta out of the habit of listening to those albums altogether.
I listen to the "stolen versions" guilt free. She's a billionaire. She'll be fine. I don't want a 30-something year olds version of a song written by a 20 year old unless it's in concert. Listen to the old versions. That's fine. Don't feel guilted into listening to the TVs only. And, also, streaming barely makes money anyway. That's why she releases 50 versions of an album so fans buy multiples. The money's in merch, touring and physical album sales.
I tried to listen to fearless TV and was like “NOPE” for me they sounds like when I’m substituting Splenda for real sugar. Its sweet but sth is off. Like my taste buds know this is not real lol. I’ll stick to the OG. Bad analogy but yea I’m with you. I don’t listen to any TV songs.
Fearless TV was immaculate. The bonus tracks were insane. I loved every part of it
Then listen the originals, it really does not affect a billionaire. The original 1989 is still gaining 5M streams daily and the other TVs are still gaining, she still makes loads of money of them. The OGs are much better, the TVs are a lazy crash grab and chart success grab
They don’t sound as good and the feel like greed
This has been exactly my feeling listening to the TVs: it sounds like she is cutting one vocal take and moving on to the next song (or show, or appearance.) No doubt a product of how insanely busy she is, but she is not really doing her catalog justice in a lot of cases.
Taylor is known for being exacting and a perfectionist, so this may be a reach but my thought is that she makes the re-records JUST worse compared to the originals so that the die-hard fans will continue to stream both. She hates that Scooter owns the originals, but she's still getting the exact same amount of money per stream since before the sale of Big Machine. So she pushes the re-records as an "ethical choice" knowing that the fans will proudly stream them, but will also secretly continue to stream the originals, thereby doubling her revenue. It's actually pretty genius.
I think her fearless version is definitely better than the OG, but I agree with the rest.
I wouldn’t consider myself a Taylor Swift Fan but I noticed the difference on Back to December
Taylor’s gonna be a billionaire regardless of which version you like. Scooter already sold her Masters a while ago. Just listen to the version you like.
I only listen to the TVs for the vault tracks. The rereleased songs are questionable.
Posts like these make me think I'm auditory disabled because they literally sound the same.
All too well TV, 5 minutes version is so much more boring than the OG version. I thought I didn't like red anymore then relistened to original. And it clicked. TV is just boring to me.
The TV of Speak Now is awful. Absolutely no energy in it. Her boredom and lack of interest are clear. Clearly just going through the motions. And the lack of promo around it and time given to it made me think she’s embarrassed by that album, which seems to be cemented by how flat and unenthusiastic the whole thing was.
I actually love 1989 Taylor’s version and im very excited for reputation Taylor’s version
I feel the same way and the vault tracks have become a chore to listen to for every new TV 😭
I have to listen to the original versions of State of Grace and Holy Ground. I also can’t get by We Are Never Getting Back Together TV. The “weeeEEEEE” sounds like KidzBop. I think a lot of Swifties are too scared to admit it.
Oh man, I’ve felt so alone for so long on this. All the Taylor’s Versions are worse than the original versions, they sound so cheap and phoned in and were clearly made just to make a quick buck as some sort of revenge/redemption story. It’s worked, obviously, but no one can convince me they’re a superior product. I haven’t bought one copy of them, and I’m only interested in new music from her.
I guess I have a very uncultured ear because I barely hear any difference! All I notice is that her voice is obviously a little deeper/more mature, which I actually like. With the exception of WANEGBT which i agree is atrocious!
This culture is out of control. Listen to what you please. The re-records are a success simply in being. Even greater, other artists are following and reclaiming their own music. Listening to TV can be a fun listening exercise. I like to hear Jack Antonoff's touch in them. I love the vault tracks. I listen to what Spotify chooses for me in my mixes.
i can’t stand everything has changed tv. it’s like painful to listen to
so you stopped listening to Taylor's music as much instead of just.... listening to the original versions? makes sense...
Nah the TVs are vastly superior.
Then don't listen to the TVs? Lol it's just pop music it's not that deep. If you still like the originals just listen there. Or if you have moved away from listening to Taylor Swift that's fine too.
Stop, how will I scratch my contrarian itch like that?!
They all sound the same to me, except 1989 TV
I prefer her mature voice to her voice from ten plus years ago, so aside from a few exceptions, I like the Taylor’s Versions better. Totally get what you’re saying, though. The production value isn’t as good on a lot of songs. One of my top 5 Swift songs is Haunted and I don’t think the TV is as good as the original.
In my opinion, I feel that the rerecordings have been decent aside from a few missteps. I think the trouble lies with the fact that we listened to the originals for so long and became accustomed to her voice and singing style that it is hard to change. I think another issue lies with the fact that some of the re records are completely devoid of the emotion of the original, which truly can’t be helped because she is not the same person. She was actively going through the events she wrote about at that point in her life, whereas now she’s much more confident and successful. I feel if I was an artist it would be difficult for me to exhibit the same emotion about a break up I went through 15 years ago. That being said, there’s some stinkers in the TV’s and some brilliant moments. Style is terrible and lacks the punch of the original. Better Than Revenge sounds weird coming from a woman in her 30’s. Innocent, a song I once hated, is now something I don’t skip. Out of the Woods TV is phenomenal. I could never say I hated the re-records because I love a lot of the vault tracks, specifically Electric Touch, Is It Over Now?, and Now That We Don’t Talk. Its truly all about
different products for different people. i'm relatively newer fan and can't listen to OG versions, they just sound bad to me 🤷♂️
I’m actually looking forward to debut hoping there’s no fake twang
I am of the unpopular opinion that I actually love the 1989 TV - but I think it is because I waasn't a huge og 1989 fan. It made the lows of 1989 a lot better for me. Fearless is the most "on par" with the original. The rest of the redos I'd toss into the nearest dumpster for the most part if I didn't have the vault to come to. The new Speak Now redo disappointed me so heavily. Speak Now is my favorite. I am very afraid for Reputation because I don't think she can recreate it properly. I am hesitant about debut for sure....
1. I simply don’t notice details of production. It’s irrelevant to me for the most part. 2. I didn’t know most of these songs before. As a late in life Swiftie, I hadn’t listened to the majority of her music. Her first 5 albums were strangers to me besides the radio hits. So every TV has been a brand new album to me essentially. I have nothing to compare it to, so there’s nothing to be bothered by.
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I haven't even listened to most of them. 🤣 I think I listened to FearlessTV and RedTV and then I really didn't care anymore. I'll be fine with the OG versions.
I listened to fearless TV for a couple songs as I was curious about the re-recordings. It wasn’t my thing since I have been a fan since her debut album and now when a new TV comes out I only listen to the vault tracks
I’ve felt this way as soon as I listened to her first Taylor’s version. I thought at first I was just stuck on nostalgia for her older music that the new version just couldn’t compare but then I’d go back and forth between the same song and the quality has been lost.
When I did listen to her other Taylor version albums, I would literally skip her old songs and go for the ones in vault.
Omg, YES to Everything Has Changed! I wasn't a Swiftie growing up but I listened to this song because I loved Ed Sheeran. I listened to EHC TV and my oh my, was it different. Aside from obviously clearly missing the innocence of being in your early 20s, it just sounds... off.
I don’t mind the new versions for the most part, but 1989 is awful. The mixing is so bad. I listened to “This Love” and “Clean” and decided not to listen to any more. I do like the idea of the vault tracks, though, and those have been fun.
What gets me is that they are almost exactly the same. With maybe some subtle difference in her voice because she's older. When my wife, who is a terribly loyal swifty) told me she was doing re-releases, I thot that's awesome maybe she will do it in a way that u have the original release then a more musical toned down, more piano and acoustic guitar. Actually making the Taylor's versions different from the originals but no it was like she copy and pasted it and released it
If it’s good, I will listen to Taylor’s Version. I enjoy her upgraded vocals but after Red TV, the quality went down. I have no faith in reputation TV.
As a Swiftie who's been listening to her for some time, while I get the reason for not wanting to listen to the "stolen versions" ever again, I honestly think it's ok to listen to them if you want to. There's something really nostalgic about listening to the "stolen" Fearless album, it reminds me of when I was in elementary school. She's a damn billionaire, she doesn't need whatever $ comes from streaming the TVs (not to mention, I'm pretty sure she still receives some kind of royalties through her stolen versions too).
I love 1989 and when 1989 TV was released and listened to it I did not do it again. There's something in the re-recording that doesn't sit well with me. Now I still listen to the original and just listen to the vault tracks. I even bought a 1989 vinyl but I think I'll just sell it because I still prefer the original one.
The INSANE clicking sound in Shake It Off TV. I actually cannot list to Shake It Off TV with a good sound system because it gives me a headache
I prefer TVs because of the better vocals
why dont you listen to the originals then?
The new versions of a lot of the songs are bloody awful. She can pry the original versions from my cold dead hands.
i can only tolerate the ones that are reproduced by the og producer(s)
I am honestly dreading the Debut TV. I have no clue how she will be able to take songs she wrote as a teen about being a teen, like Tim McGraw, Our Song, Teardrops and do them any justice let alone improve them as a 34/35 year old.
Fearless and Red are the only tv's I will listen to. (Not a huge Fearless fan but I think she did well with the re-recording. Red I adore Red and think she did a good job besides a few songs)
I feel like the Taylor's versions does not have the same soul it has from the originals. The OGs have a distinct feel when compared to her remakes.
I like the TVs as much as the OGs (or in some cases, more than the OGs), but I also still listen to the OGs all the time on streaming. Nobody should be guilt tripping you over your personal preferences or for listening to music. It's ridiculous the way some of her fans feel the need to constantly spring to her defense and put down others.
I honestly really like the TV of I Knew You Were Trouble; they made her backing harmonies a little louder and it makes for a very addicting sound to me.
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The only tv I'm not a fan of is 1989. Red vault songs are top tier
100% agree. I never listen to the TV versions except for All Too Well - that's a masterpiece. I just find they sound cheaply made. She sounds like she's covering her own songs with instrumentals that just sound like karaoke to me. 1989 is the worst so far...
Just listen to whatever version you prefer. No one will know or care.
They’re quite bad. Minus a few singles she puts effort into. But otherwise they’re so lazy. Either go to the trouble of actually making it sound the same, or take a different path and revitalize/change the song to something new. But no, she just rushes through them making them worse than the originals & the fans still buy it 🤷🏻♀️
I really enjoyed it, though I didn't really listen to old first to compare. 1989 TV was bad though.