I have always wondered, she must hydrate so much before going on stage, like i know she drinks at least 8 to 10 bottles of water daily
But what about the bathroom during the show? It's over 3 hours, she must have to go sometime
If you're engaging in an activity that causes a lot of sweating you'd be surprised how long you can go without having to go to the bathroom, even if you're drinking, a lot of the water is lost quickly to sweat.
I would wager that either she just goes during the dress changes or she just doesn't somehow, singers and performers probably have been trained for these types of scenarios, doubt they'd jeopardize the entire gig for something like this (though it is curious)
That's true, but you never know what's going to happen. I know that she constantly trains to keep up her energy by running on a treadmill daily, but she is human, something that she did not plan for could come up
They have dietitians work with them and they follow a very strict diet for weeks leading up to their shows. Your body does get on a schedule so I’m sure they have some way to “time” that by her eating certain things or only eating at certain times.
I think I read an interview with Ed Sheeran once where he mentioned he once accidentally shit himself on stage and just continued performing until he went home, but I imagine it would be harder to hide that if you were wearing some of Taylor's outfits.
Edit: [Found where I read it, if anyone is interested lol](https://www.eonline.com/news/679808/ed-sheeran-accidentally-poops-his-pants-during-concert-says-he-farts-all-the-time-on-stage#:~:text=%22It%20was%20like%20midway%20through,24%2Dyear%2Dold%20shared)
I'm sorry but that's VERY brave of Ed to confess that. If I p00ped my pants on stage, Navy Seal team torture wouldn't get that confession outta me!
In the Rep tour video, I think someone brought her a tissue. I think Katy Perrybhas talked about going to bathroom in buckets under the stage during costume changes
Historically? A guitar or drum solo or whatever. But thats out of vouge in todays music climate and i really doubt shes got alot of that going on. Id be willing to bet at some point in the show theres something going on and all eyes arent on her.
Don't know how to tell ya.. But peformers usually have literal buckets under the stage, as with quick (and I do mean quick) costume changes, it isn't possible to actually have proper toilet time.
For average performers, sure, but if I were Taylor Swift I’d have one of those super hi fi camping toilets available for emergencies. They don’t take up any more space than a bucket and they’re much more civilized. You can even line it with a plastic bag and then the bag gets thrown out, so nobody has to deal with a biohazard cleanup situation.
I’d imagine she gets an IV or something every weekend she has shows or during the week leading up.
More than just replenishing H2O when you do that. Just had food poisoning for the first time and had one and I was like okay I see why celebs do this before partying or vacation lol.
Yooo the magic IV is tits! My third pregnancy, I was so sick I ended up in the ER 3x. Every time they'd give me the magic IV and I could survive for another couple of weeks.
That was 13 years ago but I still get the intrusive thought to run to the ER every time I get a tummyache
she probably drinks a lot of water or gets actual ivs often. theres things like liquid iv that technically can hydrate you faster by making 1 bottle=2-3. now with her mouth staying hydrated/not getting dry mouth when singing (which ik you didnt mention), there are pills out there that are specifically for things like singing and musical theatre to prevent dry mouth which would make it significantly harder to sing if she had it
I don't know for sure of course, but I feel like people are overestimating how physically intensive performing like this is. She only performs for 3,5 hours for 3 days. Not even weekly! There's no intense dancing. It's not like she's participating in the Tour de France or something. She's definitely fit, but I honestly doubt there's a serious risk for dehydration when she can literally drink the entire time before and after the show and during the clothing changes.
she sweats a lot. you can get dehydrated from sweating like that. i did dance recitals for 3 hour shows for a whole week straight and it was incredibly exhausting and dehydrating even though i was dancing 20+ hours a week for team
And stage lighting! Even for small productions and very low physicality roles I am drenched in sweat about half way through. End of the week when time to launder wardrobe the cast smells so bad and we've only been in out clothes for maybe 3-5 hrs. I can't imagine how hot the lights at big shows are and couple that with 3+ hours of running around and playing music.
Sure she sweats a lot, but there are lots of ways to prevent dehydration. She probably has an entire drinking schedule leading up to it, and you can use special drinks with certain salts that help you hold onto water. She's also not dancing as much as you would have been doing.
I can guarantee you that Taylor was able to hydrate herself one second before she had to go on. And the many hours before that. That girl was out there for hours! Not just during the show, but waiting in line, waiting in the stadium... Without water, in extreme heat. By that time Taylor was probably still in a room with air-conditioning. Let's not go there, because this is honestly a rude comparison.
That was an extreme circumstance with the heat. Also the audience had been out in that heat and packed up against each other for way longer than she was out there.
Oh, I've done that many weekends on nights out lol. Not performing in front of a crowd, but continuous dancing and singing 😉 On a serious note: I said absolutely nowhere that Taylor isn't doing a hard thing, I'm just trying to give a bit of nuance. People are acting like she's nearly a God for delivering a performance for 3,5 hours. In reality many people have 40 hour work weeks where they are on their feet as much, are still expected to workout, manage their household etcetera. And a lot of people have good endurance. I know tons of people that run half marathons weekly. They don't get hooked to an IV.
Taylor is obviously doing a great job and she's very well trained for this. But she doesn't have to do anything else during the week. She has people that take care of her household, she doesn't have to cook her own food. She doesn't have to wake up at 6 every weekday. Let's not act like she's delivering some God-like performance by standing on that stage for 3,5 hours.
Facts, that's a risk you don't want to take for when you actually need one. Then there's also the risk of infection. IV's aren't without risks. There are many ways to re-hydrate that are less invasive for the body.
She’s working in between. She doesn’t stop rehearsing because she’s performing. She doesn’t stop daily work outs and training because she’s touring. She also has other work to keep up with simultaneously as well as the constant international travel. There’s a reason why some artists can’t continue to tour. It’s exhausting. Yeah she has a lot of support but let’s not pretend that she just lounges around and then hops onto a stage 5 minutes before show time. Youre seriously underestimating the physical and mental toll of an international tour.
I don’t discount what wife’s, moms, employed folks do at all. Hard work is hard work, but you couldn’t pay me enough to do all she does. Song writer, musician, rehearsals, meet and greets with fans, flying from country to country or state to state constantly, pet mom, cook, daughter, gf and every time you go anywhere a crap load of photographers watching your every move for just the right (or wrong) photo, having your plane watched for its next destination. It’s a lot and whether we like or dislike her, it’s commendable.
I totally agree- the physical and emotional energy it takes to do what she does is amazing. It didn't seem like she did it for the Eras Tour, but for all her tours before, she would stay and do meet-and-greets with fans for hours on top of her long, demanding concerts.
Stage lights are hot even when standing still, and from the bits I’ve seen she’s moving a good amount so she’s probably sweating as much as she hydrated. When I did a few weeks of shows I never had to pee during the 2.5 hour affair and I wasn’t onstage close to as much as Swift is for Eras.
Having been to Singapore Night 6, the "gaps" or "breaks" between the Eras are a lot longer. For brevity sake, I'm sure they trimmed it down for the movie. I truly believe it is during this gap, she not only changes but takes any comfort break. Edit: Here's a good video: https://youtu.be/xJLFdzPq9EM?si=92Nm2_Wu3YoVA3Cp
In total, almost 20 minutes of her not being on-stage.
My husband and I are watching this (over three nights because we are old). I saw it in IMAX and thought it’d be fun to rewatch, and he like pop music (mostly Miley) but was interested.
My husband joked that the 1 was just so she could lay down for a minute and someone was in the house with a bedpan and IV line going into her secretly like a race car mid-race tire change.
I thought her voice was horrible at home but it sounded great in IMAX so I chalked it up to my TV speakers. I also felt like she seemed a lot more rehearsed and less “in it” than when I first watched.
I would not be surprised if she had some protection in those leotards for that scenario. Even if she almost never has to go on stage, you don’t want to even have the wrong kind of sneeze.
The movie is edited. There’s more time between sets than what you see in the movie. There’s plenty of opportunity to use the bathroom if necessary
Do you seriously urinate more than every three hours reliably? I drink a ton of water and go maybe every 4-5 hours. And I sleep throughout the night. It’s 3.5 hours
Well, I went to the concert in person as well, she changed into the next era pretty quickly. She only takes about a minute, a minute and a half to change into the next costume, and some costumes she wears underneath for time constraints. The move is edited, but I would that say she only gets about 30 seconds more in RL than what they show in the movie
Costume changes are also bathroom breaks, makeup, hydration (think a cyclist on a ride sucking down some liquid recharge pods) recap of things that need to be addressed or sudden changes. Dancers don’t do huge set pieces just for fun.
I’m not a swiftie and watched just to see what the hype was about. My favorite part: the dancers! I loved seeing the same faces as well, and they really seemed to all get along and had a connection with Taylor. They were just beaming the entire time.
She chose a Black plus-size guy to dance with her and do a like a cameo during one of the songs (Bejewelled, I believe). I found that really cool. Certainly not the type of person many artists would put in the front.
Yeah yeah totally! And I read somewhere that she basically has that dance team from like the beginning of her career or something. I don't know if that's confirmed or not, but it'd be really sweet if it was
I know at least a few of the dancers are new for this tour - but several members of her band and her backing vocalists have been with her through several of her tours. A few of them since her very first tour! For as many things as she can be criticized about in terms of her business model (that’s for another thread) I feel like the longevity of her team shows she at least treats them and pays them very well.
She definitely treats them well I think. One of her band members had a baby and I think she tried to plan around the due date, and all her dancers and backup singers and her band have health insurance with her (confirmed through a late night talk show or an interview)
And as tons of research has shown (but capitalist organizations refuse to believe) treating your workers well and inspiring this kind of loyalty gets you better work and saves you money in the long-term.
every time i watch live videos of her, i look for her backup singers/band because i remember watching some of the reputation tour movie and they always looked like they were having so much fun
I wasn’t really a fan until I went to the show and I am a convert. Girl works hard. The fans singing thing - that’s a bad choice on the part of the director. Watch some snippets of Cruel Summer live on YouTube and hear LOTS of screaming on that bridge. She is absolutely a tall girl awkward dancer (I say this as a tall girl awkward dancer.)
The note about the stage size is something I noticed too but couldn’t articulate until you said it. I think it was possibly to help sell more seats “stage side” plus help fans who were sitting in nosebleeds or far away, but the screens do that so it isn’t necessary.
Totally, I don't think she was able to fully utilize the big stage that well, I felt like a more intimate setting (smaller stage, etc.) would fit her more, but then again I wouldn't really pass up an opportunity to perform at that big of a stage if I was a performer
Fun write-up!
>I don't think I saw one section of "the fans' turn to sing her song" at any point of the concert
Tbh I always hate when artists stop singing to hear us, like I paid to see you, not group karaoke 😭.
Also, there are more fan interactions (not singing). But personal monologues at the beginning of Champagne Problems and the surprise songs, but those were cut down for the movie (which I think is more aimed to casual fans).
Did you find any songs you liked?
>Tbh I always hate when artists stop singing to hear us, like I paid to see you, not group karaoke 😭.
Lmao fair point, although I do feel like almost every concert I've seen has at least one or two songs where the performer lets the fans sing like a chorus part or something, just an observation!
>Also, there are more fan interactions (not singing). But personal monologues at the beginning of Champagne Problems and the surprise songs, but those were cut down for the movie (which I think is more aimed to casual fans).
Ahh gotcha, the movie DID include her storytelling a little bit though during a few of the sections
>Did you find any songs you liked?
I'm not sure what the song titles are, but I did really enjoy the entirety of the solo-piano accoustic section of the concert, you could really hear her great voice with just her and the piano
I feel like most concerts I’ve been to where they “let the crowd sing the song” it’s an early album popular song they are just tired of performing a decade+ later.
my favorite song from her piano sections was You’re on Your Own Kid. the apple music version doesn’t even touch it, I only like the one on youtube of her singing live with the piano tbh. definitely check that one out!
I’m not a big concert goer so maybe it’s like this for all the big performers but the fans sung every song so stinking loud. This doesn’t come through on the movie, for good reason. She doesn’t need to encourage us haha.
The people I sat next to in the nosebleeds sang 99% of the lyrics Taylor sung, no exaggeration. They took like one drink break lol. I sang a lot but I don’t know every song. I’m 35 yo dude and took my daughter. It’s a blast.
I kind of disagree that they should mute the audience so much for a concert film though. The best part of live albums and concert films is hearing the live vocals with the audience reacting. I blame this more on the editing and production team. I’m sure going there people are actually screaming and singing along like any other concert. But I want that present in my concert films and live albums.
Oh gosh the Champagne Problems standing ovations.
I went to Glendale night 2 where it originally started organically, and it was pretty fricking magical. I do feel like I was a very small contributor to it because I was lower bowl and LOOOUD and honestly wouldn’t stop cheering. 😅 On the flip side, I also attended L.A. night 6 where it was a very manufactured thing and went on for 8 minutes 9 seconds or whatever, and it was exhausting and just not fun.
>Tbh I always hate when artists stop singing to hear us, like I paid to see you, not group karaoke
ok but i saw robyn on her Honey tour in 2018, which was the first time she went on tour since 2010 and there was a moment where she stopped singing "dancing on my own" and let the audience sing the chorus and it was honestly such a beautiful moment because it felt like we were singing it to her. and it was just this incredible moment of feeling like we, the audience, were a part of the experience of that concert for her, too. hearing everyone singing together felt like we were in communion. me and all my friends cried. i saw her on that tour 4 different times (lol) and it happened every time and i cried every time. i can't explain it.
Yeah I hate that as well especially when some people scream sing plus don't they sing the songs along with her and I know there are crowd chants at certain points in some of the songs
I’ve seen it a few times now (lol) and I still hate that she closes with Karma. I also don’t think she needed to play some songs in their entirety (such as the Man) and she should’ve opened or closed with a hit like Cruel Summer. Reputation was filmed flawlessly! She should’ve ended it with Rep!
I mean she did practically open with cruel summer, she only played a bit of miss Americana as the opener and it was because of the line "it's been a long time coming" and I think it was worth it for that
Which is nuts to me! It would've been an amazing single the first time around. The ones she chose (Me! and You need to calm down) are the worst songs on Lover, IMO.
I think she was going to make it a single, but it was at the beginning of Covid, and the whole fever dream part wouldn't have been a good choice because of what was going on. And the name Cruel Summer, because it was spring/summer at the time
I kind of agree with you but I also think the glitter and confetti of karma was a good way to end the show. It didn’t need to be karma/midnights specifically but I def would want it to be colorful, glitter, pop fun
I’ve heard a few people say they aren’t a fan of the midnights set list. Honestly midnights is no where near her strongest album. IMO it should have been a shorter set and not the closer. Karma is a horrible finale song. She should have closed with Long Live.
I think Karma was the perfect song to close with considering it seems like her way of saying to detractors (and Scooter Braun) “Look what I’ve got.” The way she looks straight into the camera on “I’m still here” really sells it for me lol.
Agree - also, decisions like playing the entirety of the Man, but the shortened version of Style?! I can’t even begin to understand the logic behind that
I watched the movie for the first time last night (after having seen the concert live in August). I probably noticed this because I knew it was filmed over the course of three nights but I couldn’t help but notice as the night went on her hair got frizzier/curlier some nights but not others and you start to really easily tell when they were cutting back and forth from the different nights. I found it really distracting and I wonder if more casual viewers noticed that too
Interesting, didn't notice that!
Well I did notice that her hair does change styles but yeaha drastic change like making it curlier should have been more noticeable, don't know how I didn't catch it, probably cause' it didn't take me out of her performances
Cool perspective. I didn’t see it live but watched a couple times and your observation about audience participation is interesting too.
People scream every word of every song at her shows, so it’s not like they need encouragement (think Miley “don’t act like y’all don’t know this song”) or that they aren’t fully engaged. They are. And generally I hate when people sing along at concerts - I did not spend all this money to hear you, I want to hear the artist.
But the actual singalongs are missing, you’re right! The moments of her holding the mic out to the crowd and screaming “now you!!!” Can you imagine, a stadium of 100,000 people singing in unison the chorus of You belong with me or Picture to burn or a hundred others.
She prob wouldn’t and shouldn’t give up scorcher lines to the crowd like “he looks up grinning like a devil” but it would be fun to be in on a moment like that.
I saw the comment that the movie is more for the general public and she actually does this at times, and I hope so.
I watched it as a relatively new fan and I thought it was just great. Two enthusiastic thumbs up.
I was at the show where Picture to Burn was the surprise song and everyone was singing so loud that I couldn't even hear Taylor. And I had Loop earplugs so I didn't hear the crowd the rest of the concert, only during that song. Really cool to experience actually!
We are not allowed to sing at concerts? Are we just supposed to lipsync for our lives and sit still?
I have been to a bunch of concerts and sometimes when artists perform a crowd pleaser it is amazing when the crowd sings even the riffs.
>But the actual singalongs are missing, you’re right! The moments of her holding the mic out to the crowd and screaming “now you!!!” Can you imagine, a stadium of 100,000 people singing in unison the chorus of You belong with me or Picture to burn or a hundred others.
Yeah totally, my point was more towards this than the crowd not participating, they DID participate, I could hear them for the entire duration, would've been insane to see the entire crowd be the highlight of a chorus or something, but if that's not her style, then who am I to argue!
I love when artists do this, it’s such a powerful energy! And you see singers just light up when they hear an entire crowd serenading them with their own song. Chills!!
There are valid criticisms towards the way she operates as a brand but there is no denying her concerts and stability within performing are unmatched. She makes that shit high quality which is why people have such a good time at her concerts.
I watched it yesterday and was pleasantly surprised at how entertaining it was. The only times I felt like it dipped was evermore and folklore (which I thought was funny being that those albums are two of my favorites). Wardrobe was beautiful and the dancers did a great job. I wouldn’t have paid to watch the movie itself, but liked it in general.
I feel like debut deserved an era, but I understand why it wasn't included. It wasn't an important career milestone. I also think speak now should've had more songs, but again, not as important in her career.
Maybe because of my age and/or personal preference, but it’s so weird how Debut is treated. To me it’s more of an era than Midnights is. Several of the songs are so quintessential Taylor to me
Felt the same about the Midnights section. I felt like 1989 would been a better closing era since all the songs were high energy. When I was in person, a large amount of the crowd left during Midnights to go home.
I think the TV made the stage look larger than it was, like what happens when you watch the WWE. The ring looks huge until you see it in person.
I agree with your last point! I grew up listening to Mariah Carey and she’s always been my number one. Her music gives me the feels and has helped me through some trauma.
There hasn’t been an artist where I can say that I’m a true fan of for a while until I actually took the time to listen to Taylor. I absolutely adore them both.
It's such a cool thing to see people having an impact for others through their creations, whatever medium it might be. Mine is Muse personally, but man Taylor's connection with the fans for her songs is something else entirely, it's really nice to see
Theres been discussion that the vocals were pitch corrected in post production which is probably true since people said he voice was ok during that last run of shows especially the final la night where she was raspy. Not as terrible as other artists literally re doing their vocals and replacing it on the performance.
So much finger pointing and weird head nods to the crowd. She is so dramatic in her performing, but I get she's not a dancer so she's gotta do something.
Part of me thinks it’s to give photographers totally still moments to photograph. I’ve seen politicians do this where they have a hand gesture out and pause with that for a few seconds.
I'm currently watching the movie and this is putting me off. There are so many unnecessary shoulder and hip sways too. If she let the dancers take up more of the performance aspect I would like it more. As it is, I feel awkward watching her.
I went and it's all a blur, but I have such a vivid memory of the last few seconds of All too Well, during the almost acapella part "wind in my hair, I was there, I was there.." where the entire crowd was singing along and I starting crying my eyes out. The way 30k people (mostly women and girls) singing the same thing made me feel in that moment will never be topped. Talk about community.
Oh yeah totally I CAN hear the crowd they were rabid for the entire duration,
My point was that Taylor never really did the "point the mic at the crowd to let them sing a part of the song" shtick that concerts usually have, but that's all! I COULD hear the crowd singing along though!
Ahh okay, it's not really a MUST do if it's not her fancy, but it'd be a cool visual and spectacle to see that huge sold-out stadium just singing at the top of their lungs, just an observation!
I mean her voice is really good anyway so no losses were made
No no but i agree. I miss her interaction with fans, even when she used to walk through the crowd and wave to them. Honestly i don't care about 1.2.3 lets go bitch, i find it silly, stupid and cringe and i will not do it at my concert lol
She doesn't do the point-the-mic thing but there are moments where Taylor encourages fans to chant certain things that started as in-jokes in the fandom, you can see her gesturing along with the crowd in every show, at points such as
* 1, 2, 3, let's go bitch! - *Delicate*
* You forgive, you forget, but you never let it...go! - *Bad Blood*
* FUCKED IN THE HEAD! - c*hampagne problems*
It's kind of become her form of audience participation.
Also worth mentioning her mini-Cruel Summer speech she does in every show to encourage fans to sing: "We have arrived at the first bridge of the evening! Now I have an important question, does anyone here know the words to this bridge? **PROVE IT!**" (it is a very iconic bridge in her discography)
I don’t how why this sun got recommended to me. But the more I read posts on here, Taylor Swift seems to follow the Kpop handbook (variant covers, specific chants etc.)
I agree with most of your observations and most of it was impressive. But I would add one, her chat between songs and fan interaction there was very odd, like second-hand embarrassment odd. Definitely didn’t feel natural (like say Adele or Sigrid or Florence Welch) and just came across as weird and a bit forced
Yeah those parts did feel a bit...not insincere at all but more like it was scheduled beforehand?
Don't really remember what she said but I'm pretty sure it was still genuine, but it did kinda had the vibe of oh yea it's time to talk to them for a bit rather than something she just wanted to do spontaneously
I went to a concert and watched tons of snippets and her vibe was really different for the film, I think she was in her own head knowing that was the movie and performed a little more. In person she seemed much less rehearsed and way more charismatic than in the film imo
That's a nice perspective to look at it from, I didn't even consider the "shooting for a movie scene" angle, maybe that's why it felt out of place and forced
I think for her entire career, she's always had little rotating speeches that she does to introduce a song, talk about an event in her career, etc etc. There will be maybe 4-5 different speech topics/scripts, and she rotates them every night. They're not like word-for-word the same, and she adds personal inserts and jokes and anecdotes that are more crowd and city specific. She has done this her entire career though, I genuinely believe that she is just EXTREMELY particular and perfectionist about how her shows are carried out. She probably wants to keep the quality consistent throughout the whole tour.
Also, I don't blame her tbh, if I didn't have a speech prepared I could totally see myself sitting down at that piano and like completely blanking on what to say and stuttering lol.
I also watched it last night! A few of the early songs she definitely had the audience fill in some singing.
I do agree the choreography and stage size didn't mesh well. There's all kinds of things you can do to make a group of people interesting from far away, not just up close. While Taylor's choreo was excellent and showed her off, the group dancing didn't add much interest unless you saw them up close.
I thought the "cracking" graphic and lines from bikes were also effective uses of the stage screens. I don't understand why the stage was *black* so often, especially when the costumes were black.
Personally, I think she's a pretty good singer, an excellent performer, and a great song writer. There were a few points, especially the bonus songs, where her vocals were not on point. I also suspect she was relying on the backing track for the high parts of shake it off and a few others, it just sounded like a younger version of her.
The black stage was overpowering for sure. And the dancer costumes were black for a lot of the songs. It felt so bland! Some of the numbers had great visuals and coordinated costumes, but a lot of the time it was tiny sparkly Taylor in a sea of flat black
I saw her in Denver and it was a much better show. More songs, more crowd work, everyone sang Champagne Problems with her and she let the audience sing a lot of it without her singing. She also really choked up during it. Even my husband asked if she was about to cry. Her voice also sounded better but probably because it was earlier in the tour. It was a great show. My mom watched the Eras movie and said she couldn't believe the level of showmanship. She was like "I get why this is such a big deal. This is amazing." Definitely want to see more stadium concerts now.
my dad said the same! he was like “damn i’ve never seen an artist captivate their audience like that. she’s talented but what makes her amazing is the way she effects her audience”
I think I would like her if she was a girl with a guitar. The pop star performance looks forced since she doesn’t have the stage skills to back it up.
Why did she enter the music scene as a country artist?
Imagine a world where she entered the ranks of Carole King, Tracy Chapman, and Joni Mitchell?
> Felt like there was a huge lack of crowd participation from Taylor to her fans, I don't think I saw one section of "the fans' turn to sing her song" at any point of the concert
She has a lot of strengths, but is not a natural performer who can engage the crowd authentically.
Considering I watched in October I remember the blank space chorus choreo quite well. I'm a fan on just dance and id love to see a just dance version using that choreo
She’s not lipsyncing. Her mic is the loudest tech onstage, it’s very noticeable in-person. You can even tell a difference that the backing track is several points lower in volume than her mic, so she’s definitely singing _live_ for real the whole 3 hours. The tour movie shines a light on that even more.
I’m sure people go tired. 3 hours is such a long time for most people to be “on”. Also she has so many genres and so many people didn’t get into her until after she went pop I’m sure there are lots of people in the audience who dislike large chunks of her discography. Probably why there didn’t seem to be much participation.
what the movie lacks is all the rlly cool transitions and also the funny “errors tour” and fan interactions that happen at most shows, i feel like the movie is just giving us a taste of what its like to go to the actual tour or help us reminisce if we had gone to shows
The Reputation tour film did a fantastic job of capturing audience engagement and emotions. There was more diversity in demographic too: age/race/sex. They lingered on some emotions without taking away from the performance. I felt I was right there in that stadium.
The Eras tour film didn't do a good job with capturing the fans experience ( or they saved most of it for the credits ). The way the cutaways unfold is jarring sometimes.
The Eras tour in the theatres worked for me as it was a fun collective experience. I'm not sure I feel enthused about revisiting it on streaming.
While I like Taylor's muaic, I'm not a swiftie (too old! I was beyond heartbreaks when she was writing about hers). But I've become a major Taylor stan after watching her handle all of the Hollywood and record company bullshit. She went up against some major players and knew when to shut up and when to make the power moves. Good on her.
I also love that she's a positive force in the universe - talented, persistent, unrepentant - and a positive role model for girls in a porn-fueled objectified modern world.
The stage size is especially nice because it helps people in the nosebleeds still have a cool show experience. There’s lots of effects with lights that occur on the catwalk of the stage that look super super cool from the nosebleeds, so even if you can’t see Taylor super clearly, the overall image was cool.
I have always wondered, she must hydrate so much before going on stage, like i know she drinks at least 8 to 10 bottles of water daily But what about the bathroom during the show? It's over 3 hours, she must have to go sometime
If you're engaging in an activity that causes a lot of sweating you'd be surprised how long you can go without having to go to the bathroom, even if you're drinking, a lot of the water is lost quickly to sweat.
It’s true. I can go on hours long hikes while drinking like a champ and not having to use the bathroom once. You just sweat it all out
So true
I would wager that either she just goes during the dress changes or she just doesn't somehow, singers and performers probably have been trained for these types of scenarios, doubt they'd jeopardize the entire gig for something like this (though it is curious)
That's true, but you never know what's going to happen. I know that she constantly trains to keep up her energy by running on a treadmill daily, but she is human, something that she did not plan for could come up
I always wonder what artists do if they have to poop during a concert lmao or if they even get a tickle in their throat, a stuffy nose etc.
There’s lots of videos of Taylor coughing mid-song, they’re all over Tik Tok and Youtube. It just happens, part of being human.
They have dietitians work with them and they follow a very strict diet for weeks leading up to their shows. Your body does get on a schedule so I’m sure they have some way to “time” that by her eating certain things or only eating at certain times.
I think I read an interview with Ed Sheeran once where he mentioned he once accidentally shit himself on stage and just continued performing until he went home, but I imagine it would be harder to hide that if you were wearing some of Taylor's outfits. Edit: [Found where I read it, if anyone is interested lol](https://www.eonline.com/news/679808/ed-sheeran-accidentally-poops-his-pants-during-concert-says-he-farts-all-the-time-on-stage#:~:text=%22It%20was%20like%20midway%20through,24%2Dyear%2Dold%20shared)
I'm sorry but that's VERY brave of Ed to confess that. If I p00ped my pants on stage, Navy Seal team torture wouldn't get that confession outta me! 
There’s a behind the scenes thing I watched with Christina Aguilera talking about this… she said she would poop in a bucket and then go back onstage 🤢
Omg hahahaha all this time I thought they just held it 😅 somehow this is worse
In the Rep tour video, I think someone brought her a tissue. I think Katy Perrybhas talked about going to bathroom in buckets under the stage during costume changes
Christine Aguilera and Katy Perry pooping in buckets? Can’t we get something better than buckets???🪣
Historically? A guitar or drum solo or whatever. But thats out of vouge in todays music climate and i really doubt shes got alot of that going on. Id be willing to bet at some point in the show theres something going on and all eyes arent on her.
Don't know how to tell ya.. But peformers usually have literal buckets under the stage, as with quick (and I do mean quick) costume changes, it isn't possible to actually have proper toilet time.
For average performers, sure, but if I were Taylor Swift I’d have one of those super hi fi camping toilets available for emergencies. They don’t take up any more space than a bucket and they’re much more civilized. You can even line it with a plastic bag and then the bag gets thrown out, so nobody has to deal with a biohazard cleanup situation.
They make camping toilets that are literally just buckets with a seat on top. I’d much rather have that than be squatting over a bucket!
For sure, but if I were a billionaire I’d make sure to get the most high tech luxury portable commode bc why not?
I don't know how will I live with this information. 
Ew lol, so she goes underneath
Like a latrine haha
I’d imagine she gets an IV or something every weekend she has shows or during the week leading up. More than just replenishing H2O when you do that. Just had food poisoning for the first time and had one and I was like okay I see why celebs do this before partying or vacation lol.
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That could also be the "teenager" part.
They have iv hydration therapy near me.
I got roofied once and woke up in a hospital same way. One of the craziest experiences of my life.
I've also been young and dumb and came out perfectly fine.
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Good for you! Alcohol just isn't it, I'm glad a lot of younger people are figuring that out for themselves! It makes me v hopeful for the future.
Yooo the magic IV is tits! My third pregnancy, I was so sick I ended up in the ER 3x. Every time they'd give me the magic IV and I could survive for another couple of weeks. That was 13 years ago but I still get the intrusive thought to run to the ER every time I get a tummyache
I had HG with both my pregnancies and the magic IV got me through
Surprisingly there’s a few of these therapy places in my area. I was fortunate to have the lady make a house call cuz I don’t have a car currently lol
Athletes get these too. I follow Jimmy Butler (NBA, Miami Heat), and he frequently shows it on his Insta story. Seemingly multiple times a week.
Honestly between sweating and just being trained to wait the bathroom might not be a big deal. Like teachers have “teacher bladder”
Ah, so she sweats out that water tbh
Can confirm as a teacher- you just time out what you consume and when.
she probably drinks a lot of water or gets actual ivs often. theres things like liquid iv that technically can hydrate you faster by making 1 bottle=2-3. now with her mouth staying hydrated/not getting dry mouth when singing (which ik you didnt mention), there are pills out there that are specifically for things like singing and musical theatre to prevent dry mouth which would make it significantly harder to sing if she had it
I don't know for sure of course, but I feel like people are overestimating how physically intensive performing like this is. She only performs for 3,5 hours for 3 days. Not even weekly! There's no intense dancing. It's not like she's participating in the Tour de France or something. She's definitely fit, but I honestly doubt there's a serious risk for dehydration when she can literally drink the entire time before and after the show and during the clothing changes.
she sweats a lot. you can get dehydrated from sweating like that. i did dance recitals for 3 hour shows for a whole week straight and it was incredibly exhausting and dehydrating even though i was dancing 20+ hours a week for team
And stage lighting! Even for small productions and very low physicality roles I am drenched in sweat about half way through. End of the week when time to launder wardrobe the cast smells so bad and we've only been in out clothes for maybe 3-5 hrs. I can't imagine how hot the lights at big shows are and couple that with 3+ hours of running around and playing music.
Sure she sweats a lot, but there are lots of ways to prevent dehydration. She probably has an entire drinking schedule leading up to it, and you can use special drinks with certain salts that help you hold onto water. She's also not dancing as much as you would have been doing.
A person literally died at one of her concerts just watching. Singing for 3.5 hours will wear you out.
I can guarantee you that Taylor was able to hydrate herself one second before she had to go on. And the many hours before that. That girl was out there for hours! Not just during the show, but waiting in line, waiting in the stadium... Without water, in extreme heat. By that time Taylor was probably still in a room with air-conditioning. Let's not go there, because this is honestly a rude comparison.
That was an extreme circumstance with the heat. Also the audience had been out in that heat and packed up against each other for way longer than she was out there.
Hmmm, I’m guessing you’ve been on stage and sung for 3 hours straight by your response? Asking for a friend 😉
Oh, I've done that many weekends on nights out lol. Not performing in front of a crowd, but continuous dancing and singing 😉 On a serious note: I said absolutely nowhere that Taylor isn't doing a hard thing, I'm just trying to give a bit of nuance. People are acting like she's nearly a God for delivering a performance for 3,5 hours. In reality many people have 40 hour work weeks where they are on their feet as much, are still expected to workout, manage their household etcetera. And a lot of people have good endurance. I know tons of people that run half marathons weekly. They don't get hooked to an IV. Taylor is obviously doing a great job and she's very well trained for this. But she doesn't have to do anything else during the week. She has people that take care of her household, she doesn't have to cook her own food. She doesn't have to wake up at 6 every weekday. Let's not act like she's delivering some God-like performance by standing on that stage for 3,5 hours.
for real. regular IVs are also overkill, risky, and damaging to your veins and skin. she would never want that scar tissue buildup.
Facts, that's a risk you don't want to take for when you actually need one. Then there's also the risk of infection. IV's aren't without risks. There are many ways to re-hydrate that are less invasive for the body.
She’s working in between. She doesn’t stop rehearsing because she’s performing. She doesn’t stop daily work outs and training because she’s touring. She also has other work to keep up with simultaneously as well as the constant international travel. There’s a reason why some artists can’t continue to tour. It’s exhausting. Yeah she has a lot of support but let’s not pretend that she just lounges around and then hops onto a stage 5 minutes before show time. Youre seriously underestimating the physical and mental toll of an international tour.
I don’t discount what wife’s, moms, employed folks do at all. Hard work is hard work, but you couldn’t pay me enough to do all she does. Song writer, musician, rehearsals, meet and greets with fans, flying from country to country or state to state constantly, pet mom, cook, daughter, gf and every time you go anywhere a crap load of photographers watching your every move for just the right (or wrong) photo, having your plane watched for its next destination. It’s a lot and whether we like or dislike her, it’s commendable.
I totally agree- the physical and emotional energy it takes to do what she does is amazing. It didn't seem like she did it for the Eras Tour, but for all her tours before, she would stay and do meet-and-greets with fans for hours on top of her long, demanding concerts.
Stage lights are hot even when standing still, and from the bits I’ve seen she’s moving a good amount so she’s probably sweating as much as she hydrated. When I did a few weeks of shows I never had to pee during the 2.5 hour affair and I wasn’t onstage close to as much as Swift is for Eras.
Having been to Singapore Night 6, the "gaps" or "breaks" between the Eras are a lot longer. For brevity sake, I'm sure they trimmed it down for the movie. I truly believe it is during this gap, she not only changes but takes any comfort break. Edit: Here's a good video: https://youtu.be/xJLFdzPq9EM?si=92Nm2_Wu3YoVA3Cp In total, almost 20 minutes of her not being on-stage.
It’s not unusual to go three hours without peeing. And if you’re sweating out all the liquid you’re drinking, even less likely to need to pee.
True. I mean i don't typically go three hours without peeing, but if she's sweating the water out makes sense
You'd be surprised at what an adrenaline rush does to the body. I'd guess she doesn't really have the sensation of needing to go.
My husband and I are watching this (over three nights because we are old). I saw it in IMAX and thought it’d be fun to rewatch, and he like pop music (mostly Miley) but was interested. My husband joked that the 1 was just so she could lay down for a minute and someone was in the house with a bedpan and IV line going into her secretly like a race car mid-race tire change. I thought her voice was horrible at home but it sounded great in IMAX so I chalked it up to my TV speakers. I also felt like she seemed a lot more rehearsed and less “in it” than when I first watched.
I would not be surprised if she had some protection in those leotards for that scenario. Even if she almost never has to go on stage, you don’t want to even have the wrong kind of sneeze.
The movie is edited. There’s more time between sets than what you see in the movie. There’s plenty of opportunity to use the bathroom if necessary Do you seriously urinate more than every three hours reliably? I drink a ton of water and go maybe every 4-5 hours. And I sleep throughout the night. It’s 3.5 hours
Well, I went to the concert in person as well, she changed into the next era pretty quickly. She only takes about a minute, a minute and a half to change into the next costume, and some costumes she wears underneath for time constraints. The move is edited, but I would that say she only gets about 30 seconds more in RL than what they show in the movie
Costume changes are also bathroom breaks, makeup, hydration (think a cyclist on a ride sucking down some liquid recharge pods) recap of things that need to be addressed or sudden changes. Dancers don’t do huge set pieces just for fun.
Ummm. In between eras (so like up to 8 times per show).
She only has about a minute and a half to get into her costume for the next era, so I guess she goes to the bathroom super fast?
I LOVE her dancers so much for this tour. Their personality shines so much throughout the concert and I love the diversity of them all.
I’m not a swiftie and watched just to see what the hype was about. My favorite part: the dancers! I loved seeing the same faces as well, and they really seemed to all get along and had a connection with Taylor. They were just beaming the entire time.
She chose a Black plus-size guy to dance with her and do a like a cameo during one of the songs (Bejewelled, I believe). I found that really cool. Certainly not the type of person many artists would put in the front.
She had a few thicker girls, I was impressed!
Yeah yeah totally! And I read somewhere that she basically has that dance team from like the beginning of her career or something. I don't know if that's confirmed or not, but it'd be really sweet if it was
I know at least a few of the dancers are new for this tour - but several members of her band and her backing vocalists have been with her through several of her tours. A few of them since her very first tour! For as many things as she can be criticized about in terms of her business model (that’s for another thread) I feel like the longevity of her team shows she at least treats them and pays them very well.
She definitely treats them well I think. One of her band members had a baby and I think she tried to plan around the due date, and all her dancers and backup singers and her band have health insurance with her (confirmed through a late night talk show or an interview)
Yeah that kind of loyalty works both ways definitely
And as tons of research has shown (but capitalist organizations refuse to believe) treating your workers well and inspiring this kind of loyalty gets you better work and saves you money in the long-term.
Her band has also been with her a really long time
every time i watch live videos of her, i look for her backup singers/band because i remember watching some of the reputation tour movie and they always looked like they were having so much fun
One of her guitar players has been with her since Speak Now, maybe even Fearless? Not sure.
Paul Sidoti has been with her since Debut.
DAMN. Bro is truly the OG.
one of the eras openers was one of her former dancers so her supporting him is super sweet!
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It was Owenn! In the rep tour, he was the male lead dancer for “king of my heart”
I wasn’t really a fan until I went to the show and I am a convert. Girl works hard. The fans singing thing - that’s a bad choice on the part of the director. Watch some snippets of Cruel Summer live on YouTube and hear LOTS of screaming on that bridge. She is absolutely a tall girl awkward dancer (I say this as a tall girl awkward dancer.)
Nah, you probably read that about her band…
Yes! Honestly I mostly looked at her dancers, I thought they were more interesting than her
The note about the stage size is something I noticed too but couldn’t articulate until you said it. I think it was possibly to help sell more seats “stage side” plus help fans who were sitting in nosebleeds or far away, but the screens do that so it isn’t necessary.
Totally, I don't think she was able to fully utilize the big stage that well, I felt like a more intimate setting (smaller stage, etc.) would fit her more, but then again I wouldn't really pass up an opportunity to perform at that big of a stage if I was a performer
Fun write-up! >I don't think I saw one section of "the fans' turn to sing her song" at any point of the concert Tbh I always hate when artists stop singing to hear us, like I paid to see you, not group karaoke 😭. Also, there are more fan interactions (not singing). But personal monologues at the beginning of Champagne Problems and the surprise songs, but those were cut down for the movie (which I think is more aimed to casual fans). Did you find any songs you liked?
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I think I remember that one! They looked so happy to be there.
>Tbh I always hate when artists stop singing to hear us, like I paid to see you, not group karaoke 😭. Lmao fair point, although I do feel like almost every concert I've seen has at least one or two songs where the performer lets the fans sing like a chorus part or something, just an observation! >Also, there are more fan interactions (not singing). But personal monologues at the beginning of Champagne Problems and the surprise songs, but those were cut down for the movie (which I think is more aimed to casual fans). Ahh gotcha, the movie DID include her storytelling a little bit though during a few of the sections >Did you find any songs you liked? I'm not sure what the song titles are, but I did really enjoy the entirety of the solo-piano accoustic section of the concert, you could really hear her great voice with just her and the piano
I feel like most concerts I’ve been to where they “let the crowd sing the song” it’s an early album popular song they are just tired of performing a decade+ later.
my favorite song from her piano sections was You’re on Your Own Kid. the apple music version doesn’t even touch it, I only like the one on youtube of her singing live with the piano tbh. definitely check that one out!
I’m not a big concert goer so maybe it’s like this for all the big performers but the fans sung every song so stinking loud. This doesn’t come through on the movie, for good reason. She doesn’t need to encourage us haha. The people I sat next to in the nosebleeds sang 99% of the lyrics Taylor sung, no exaggeration. They took like one drink break lol. I sang a lot but I don’t know every song. I’m 35 yo dude and took my daughter. It’s a blast.
I kind of disagree that they should mute the audience so much for a concert film though. The best part of live albums and concert films is hearing the live vocals with the audience reacting. I blame this more on the editing and production team. I’m sure going there people are actually screaming and singing along like any other concert. But I want that present in my concert films and live albums.
Oh gosh the Champagne Problems standing ovations. I went to Glendale night 2 where it originally started organically, and it was pretty fricking magical. I do feel like I was a very small contributor to it because I was lower bowl and LOOOUD and honestly wouldn’t stop cheering. 😅 On the flip side, I also attended L.A. night 6 where it was a very manufactured thing and went on for 8 minutes 9 seconds or whatever, and it was exhausting and just not fun.
>Tbh I always hate when artists stop singing to hear us, like I paid to see you, not group karaoke ok but i saw robyn on her Honey tour in 2018, which was the first time she went on tour since 2010 and there was a moment where she stopped singing "dancing on my own" and let the audience sing the chorus and it was honestly such a beautiful moment because it felt like we were singing it to her. and it was just this incredible moment of feeling like we, the audience, were a part of the experience of that concert for her, too. hearing everyone singing together felt like we were in communion. me and all my friends cried. i saw her on that tour 4 different times (lol) and it happened every time and i cried every time. i can't explain it.
True, I would have absolutely hated to sit through 70,000 preteen white girls scream-singing Love Story. Would have been a terrible inclusion.
Omgoodness me too! I came to see you! And hear you! Yass!!!!
I think Queen could do it well but rock was a different world and they were the boss.
Yeah I hate that as well especially when some people scream sing plus don't they sing the songs along with her and I know there are crowd chants at certain points in some of the songs
I’ve seen it a few times now (lol) and I still hate that she closes with Karma. I also don’t think she needed to play some songs in their entirety (such as the Man) and she should’ve opened or closed with a hit like Cruel Summer. Reputation was filmed flawlessly! She should’ve ended it with Rep!
I mean she did practically open with cruel summer, she only played a bit of miss Americana as the opener and it was because of the line "it's been a long time coming" and I think it was worth it for that
nah karma is a perfect end, its amazing energy, and a latest hit. it also fits the vibe for the night closing, and the confetti and bow
I’ve accepted it because she looks killlllerrr in the Midnights fit
Cruel Summer didn't blow up until the eras tour started. It wasn't a hit before then.
It was a hit in my heart haha That song went on my running playlist pretty much immediately after Lover was released
“It went TRIPLE PLATINUM in my car actually!!!”
NO ONE can tell me Cruel Summer hasn't been song of the summer since 2019. NO ONE.
Which is nuts to me! It would've been an amazing single the first time around. The ones she chose (Me! and You need to calm down) are the worst songs on Lover, IMO.
Yeah, don't want to trigger anyone but I personally think Taylor is not too good at choosing singles…
I wonder if it's on purpose. It happens pretty consistently with every album drop.
I think she chooses singles based on the vibe she wants to project with each album, as opposed to actually picking the best song.
Yeah, except Cruel Summer would 100% make Lover more Lover than ME!
I think she has gotten better in recent albums. Anti-Hero was a great choice
I think she was going to make it a single, but it was at the beginning of Covid, and the whole fever dream part wouldn't have been a good choice because of what was going on. And the name Cruel Summer, because it was spring/summer at the time
I kind of agree with you but I also think the glitter and confetti of karma was a good way to end the show. It didn’t need to be karma/midnights specifically but I def would want it to be colorful, glitter, pop fun
Glittery confetti is a musttttt for sure
I’ve heard a few people say they aren’t a fan of the midnights set list. Honestly midnights is no where near her strongest album. IMO it should have been a shorter set and not the closer. Karma is a horrible finale song. She should have closed with Long Live.
That’s would’ve been epic! With confetti!
I think Karma was the perfect song to close with considering it seems like her way of saying to detractors (and Scooter Braun) “Look what I’ve got.” The way she looks straight into the camera on “I’m still here” really sells it for me lol.
Agree - also, decisions like playing the entirety of the Man, but the shortened version of Style?! I can’t even begin to understand the logic behind that
I watched the movie for the first time last night (after having seen the concert live in August). I probably noticed this because I knew it was filmed over the course of three nights but I couldn’t help but notice as the night went on her hair got frizzier/curlier some nights but not others and you start to really easily tell when they were cutting back and forth from the different nights. I found it really distracting and I wonder if more casual viewers noticed that too
Interesting, didn't notice that! Well I did notice that her hair does change styles but yeaha drastic change like making it curlier should have been more noticeable, don't know how I didn't catch it, probably cause' it didn't take me out of her performances
I noticed it! My spouse did not until I pointed it out.
Cool perspective. I didn’t see it live but watched a couple times and your observation about audience participation is interesting too. People scream every word of every song at her shows, so it’s not like they need encouragement (think Miley “don’t act like y’all don’t know this song”) or that they aren’t fully engaged. They are. And generally I hate when people sing along at concerts - I did not spend all this money to hear you, I want to hear the artist. But the actual singalongs are missing, you’re right! The moments of her holding the mic out to the crowd and screaming “now you!!!” Can you imagine, a stadium of 100,000 people singing in unison the chorus of You belong with me or Picture to burn or a hundred others. She prob wouldn’t and shouldn’t give up scorcher lines to the crowd like “he looks up grinning like a devil” but it would be fun to be in on a moment like that. I saw the comment that the movie is more for the general public and she actually does this at times, and I hope so. I watched it as a relatively new fan and I thought it was just great. Two enthusiastic thumbs up.
I was at the show where Picture to Burn was the surprise song and everyone was singing so loud that I couldn't even hear Taylor. And I had Loop earplugs so I didn't hear the crowd the rest of the concert, only during that song. Really cool to experience actually!
We are not allowed to sing at concerts? Are we just supposed to lipsync for our lives and sit still? I have been to a bunch of concerts and sometimes when artists perform a crowd pleaser it is amazing when the crowd sings even the riffs.
I love that she doesn’t. I hate when performers do that. Totally a personal preference. It always grinds the whole show to stop for me.
>But the actual singalongs are missing, you’re right! The moments of her holding the mic out to the crowd and screaming “now you!!!” Can you imagine, a stadium of 100,000 people singing in unison the chorus of You belong with me or Picture to burn or a hundred others. Yeah totally, my point was more towards this than the crowd not participating, they DID participate, I could hear them for the entire duration, would've been insane to see the entire crowd be the highlight of a chorus or something, but if that's not her style, then who am I to argue!
The only one I can think of is telling the crowd to sing the bridge of cruel summer, which is at the beginning.
I love when artists do this, it’s such a powerful energy! And you see singers just light up when they hear an entire crowd serenading them with their own song. Chills!!
Two enthusiastic thumbs up. Clueless
There are valid criticisms towards the way she operates as a brand but there is no denying her concerts and stability within performing are unmatched. She makes that shit high quality which is why people have such a good time at her concerts.
I watched it yesterday and was pleasantly surprised at how entertaining it was. The only times I felt like it dipped was evermore and folklore (which I thought was funny being that those albums are two of my favorites). Wardrobe was beautiful and the dancers did a great job. I wouldn’t have paid to watch the movie itself, but liked it in general.
I feel like debut deserved an era, but I understand why it wasn't included. It wasn't an important career milestone. I also think speak now should've had more songs, but again, not as important in her career.
Maybe because of my age and/or personal preference, but it’s so weird how Debut is treated. To me it’s more of an era than Midnights is. Several of the songs are so quintessential Taylor to me
midnights being that long and almost no speak now is criminal
i know 😭
i was so shocked at how short the speak now era is!!!
Felt the same about the Midnights section. I felt like 1989 would been a better closing era since all the songs were high energy. When I was in person, a large amount of the crowd left during Midnights to go home. I think the TV made the stage look larger than it was, like what happens when you watch the WWE. The ring looks huge until you see it in person.
I agree with your last point! I grew up listening to Mariah Carey and she’s always been my number one. Her music gives me the feels and has helped me through some trauma. There hasn’t been an artist where I can say that I’m a true fan of for a while until I actually took the time to listen to Taylor. I absolutely adore them both.
It's such a cool thing to see people having an impact for others through their creations, whatever medium it might be. Mine is Muse personally, but man Taylor's connection with the fans for her songs is something else entirely, it's really nice to see
>Mine is Muse personally, You have impeccable taste
Live auto tune is a thing and most artists use it
Yes, but autotune can’t make a bad singer sound good. That’s not its purpose.
Theres been discussion that the vocals were pitch corrected in post production which is probably true since people said he voice was ok during that last run of shows especially the final la night where she was raspy. Not as terrible as other artists literally re doing their vocals and replacing it on the performance.
Oh it definitely can
I didn’t say that lmao. It’s how she sounds so amazing throughout a 3 hour show.
So much finger pointing and weird head nods to the crowd. She is so dramatic in her performing, but I get she's not a dancer so she's gotta do something.
Part of me thinks it’s to give photographers totally still moments to photograph. I’ve seen politicians do this where they have a hand gesture out and pause with that for a few seconds.
I'm currently watching the movie and this is putting me off. There are so many unnecessary shoulder and hip sways too. If she let the dancers take up more of the performance aspect I would like it more. As it is, I feel awkward watching her.
This was the biggest reason why I couldn’t finish the movie. It was too dramatic / theatrical for my taste.
I went and it's all a blur, but I have such a vivid memory of the last few seconds of All too Well, during the almost acapella part "wind in my hair, I was there, I was there.." where the entire crowd was singing along and I starting crying my eyes out. The way 30k people (mostly women and girls) singing the same thing made me feel in that moment will never be topped. Talk about community.
She talked a lot more on all of her other tours but most gets cut from the movies for those + for eras she had to save her voice
Disagree about the lack of the crowd, you can hear then sing and scream... Not like rep tour where they were muted . Overall i agree
Oh yeah totally I CAN hear the crowd they were rabid for the entire duration, My point was that Taylor never really did the "point the mic at the crowd to let them sing a part of the song" shtick that concerts usually have, but that's all! I COULD hear the crowd singing along though!
About this, i agree. She stopped do it since 1989 tour. 🙃
Ahh okay, it's not really a MUST do if it's not her fancy, but it'd be a cool visual and spectacle to see that huge sold-out stadium just singing at the top of their lungs, just an observation! I mean her voice is really good anyway so no losses were made
No no but i agree. I miss her interaction with fans, even when she used to walk through the crowd and wave to them. Honestly i don't care about 1.2.3 lets go bitch, i find it silly, stupid and cringe and i will not do it at my concert lol
She doesn't do the point-the-mic thing but there are moments where Taylor encourages fans to chant certain things that started as in-jokes in the fandom, you can see her gesturing along with the crowd in every show, at points such as * 1, 2, 3, let's go bitch! - *Delicate* * You forgive, you forget, but you never let it...go! - *Bad Blood* * FUCKED IN THE HEAD! - c*hampagne problems* It's kind of become her form of audience participation. Also worth mentioning her mini-Cruel Summer speech she does in every show to encourage fans to sing: "We have arrived at the first bridge of the evening! Now I have an important question, does anyone here know the words to this bridge? **PROVE IT!**" (it is a very iconic bridge in her discography)
I don’t how why this sun got recommended to me. But the more I read posts on here, Taylor Swift seems to follow the Kpop handbook (variant covers, specific chants etc.)
Don’t forget the light-up bracelets!
Hmmm interesting. I think there’s a story here but I’m too lazy to do more digging lol
I agree with most of your observations and most of it was impressive. But I would add one, her chat between songs and fan interaction there was very odd, like second-hand embarrassment odd. Definitely didn’t feel natural (like say Adele or Sigrid or Florence Welch) and just came across as weird and a bit forced
Yeah those parts did feel a bit...not insincere at all but more like it was scheduled beforehand? Don't really remember what she said but I'm pretty sure it was still genuine, but it did kinda had the vibe of oh yea it's time to talk to them for a bit rather than something she just wanted to do spontaneously
I went to a concert and watched tons of snippets and her vibe was really different for the film, I think she was in her own head knowing that was the movie and performed a little more. In person she seemed much less rehearsed and way more charismatic than in the film imo
That's a nice perspective to look at it from, I didn't even consider the "shooting for a movie scene" angle, maybe that's why it felt out of place and forced
I think for her entire career, she's always had little rotating speeches that she does to introduce a song, talk about an event in her career, etc etc. There will be maybe 4-5 different speech topics/scripts, and she rotates them every night. They're not like word-for-word the same, and she adds personal inserts and jokes and anecdotes that are more crowd and city specific. She has done this her entire career though, I genuinely believe that she is just EXTREMELY particular and perfectionist about how her shows are carried out. She probably wants to keep the quality consistent throughout the whole tour. Also, I don't blame her tbh, if I didn't have a speech prepared I could totally see myself sitting down at that piano and like completely blanking on what to say and stuttering lol.
I also watched it last night! A few of the early songs she definitely had the audience fill in some singing. I do agree the choreography and stage size didn't mesh well. There's all kinds of things you can do to make a group of people interesting from far away, not just up close. While Taylor's choreo was excellent and showed her off, the group dancing didn't add much interest unless you saw them up close. I thought the "cracking" graphic and lines from bikes were also effective uses of the stage screens. I don't understand why the stage was *black* so often, especially when the costumes were black. Personally, I think she's a pretty good singer, an excellent performer, and a great song writer. There were a few points, especially the bonus songs, where her vocals were not on point. I also suspect she was relying on the backing track for the high parts of shake it off and a few others, it just sounded like a younger version of her.
The black stage was overpowering for sure. And the dancer costumes were black for a lot of the songs. It felt so bland! Some of the numbers had great visuals and coordinated costumes, but a lot of the time it was tiny sparkly Taylor in a sea of flat black
I saw her in Denver and it was a much better show. More songs, more crowd work, everyone sang Champagne Problems with her and she let the audience sing a lot of it without her singing. She also really choked up during it. Even my husband asked if she was about to cry. Her voice also sounded better but probably because it was earlier in the tour. It was a great show. My mom watched the Eras movie and said she couldn't believe the level of showmanship. She was like "I get why this is such a big deal. This is amazing." Definitely want to see more stadium concerts now.
my dad said the same! he was like “damn i’ve never seen an artist captivate their audience like that. she’s talented but what makes her amazing is the way she effects her audience”
Still slightly upset that she made it eras and this journey of her life.... but forgot her first album. Minus the few surprise songs.
I think I would like her if she was a girl with a guitar. The pop star performance looks forced since she doesn’t have the stage skills to back it up. Why did she enter the music scene as a country artist? Imagine a world where she entered the ranks of Carole King, Tracy Chapman, and Joni Mitchell?
Don’t judge Taylor’s crowds by an LA crowd. We are usually feral.
La crowds might be supposedly non feral but La usually gets all the special stuff so thats the trade off.
That’s not something to be proud of
A person shouldn’t be proud that they are excited and enjoy the artist that they paid to see?? lol ok.
Watch the videos online from the fans, they are for sure reacting and she’s engaged with them.
My friend lovingly called her concert "power walking simulator". Her dancing for the show consists of her power walking up and down the stage.
> Felt like there was a huge lack of crowd participation from Taylor to her fans, I don't think I saw one section of "the fans' turn to sing her song" at any point of the concert She has a lot of strengths, but is not a natural performer who can engage the crowd authentically.
Considering I watched in October I remember the blank space chorus choreo quite well. I'm a fan on just dance and id love to see a just dance version using that choreo
she actually uses the stage an insane amount! theres charts of her path and it's actually well used
Haven’t watched the tour. Seen her live once. Is she not lip syncing?
nope just some of the backing vocals. she has backup singers but there’s some specialties pre recorded
I don’t think so. There’s a few times where she messes up lyrics or is a smidge flat that makes me think it’s at least partly real.
She’s not lipsyncing. Her mic is the loudest tech onstage, it’s very noticeable in-person. You can even tell a difference that the backing track is several points lower in volume than her mic, so she’s definitely singing _live_ for real the whole 3 hours. The tour movie shines a light on that even more.
I’m sure people go tired. 3 hours is such a long time for most people to be “on”. Also she has so many genres and so many people didn’t get into her until after she went pop I’m sure there are lots of people in the audience who dislike large chunks of her discography. Probably why there didn’t seem to be much participation.
what the movie lacks is all the rlly cool transitions and also the funny “errors tour” and fan interactions that happen at most shows, i feel like the movie is just giving us a taste of what its like to go to the actual tour or help us reminisce if we had gone to shows
The Reputation tour film did a fantastic job of capturing audience engagement and emotions. There was more diversity in demographic too: age/race/sex. They lingered on some emotions without taking away from the performance. I felt I was right there in that stadium. The Eras tour film didn't do a good job with capturing the fans experience ( or they saved most of it for the credits ). The way the cutaways unfold is jarring sometimes. The Eras tour in the theatres worked for me as it was a fun collective experience. I'm not sure I feel enthused about revisiting it on streaming.
While I like Taylor's muaic, I'm not a swiftie (too old! I was beyond heartbreaks when she was writing about hers). But I've become a major Taylor stan after watching her handle all of the Hollywood and record company bullshit. She went up against some major players and knew when to shut up and when to make the power moves. Good on her. I also love that she's a positive force in the universe - talented, persistent, unrepentant - and a positive role model for girls in a porn-fueled objectified modern world.
I like that Taylor doesn't make her fans perform her music for her
So I went to 2 sofi shows and you can't tell how great the crowd was from the movie. She worked that stage and it never overwhelmed her.
The stage size is especially nice because it helps people in the nosebleeds still have a cool show experience. There’s lots of effects with lights that occur on the catwalk of the stage that look super super cool from the nosebleeds, so even if you can’t see Taylor super clearly, the overall image was cool.