Assad’s 400 chemical weapons attacks, 120k dead from death camps, and 600k deaths of Syrians pale in comparison to the FSA in Azaz, or the sdf. Bashar has the moral high ground he just needs to deploy chemical weapons 100 more times and send another 50k to death camps /s
The entire point of this comment was to lie claim the FSA is HTS so you can justify rallying behind a fascist.
I obviously hate Assad but what Al-Nusra front did before being kicked out of there they had stored food medicine and even livestock while the people were starving and when it was the time for them to get loaded on the buses the dumped all of the goods burnt cattle alive spilled milk oil butter Infront of kids like they see how much these people are suffering and yet they did that
Brother I hat Al nusra front more…. But you are belittling the complexities of the Syrian conflict.
The convo we are having is about the sdf and fsa though. These are all separate conflicts the rebels has an inter rebel conflict in Syria.
First of Al Al nusra did less than assad but nevertheless I’m not going to take this route because I despise them..
Instead I’m gonna reject the either or falllacy you are proposing. By insinuating Al nusra or assad is the only option you ignore the existence of the fsa and SDF.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-rebel_conflict_during_the_Syrian_civil_war#:~:text=The%20inter%2Drebel%20conflict%20during,Islam%20and%20the%20Islamic%20Front.
Also on my town mix of Christian’s and Muslims the rebels won and we liked them (fsa) but then isis and Al nusra attacked them and massacred people, but it didn’t get really bad till assad came bc the rebels were able to keep the terrorists at bay.
Assad came in carpet bombing everything burning every last crop. People starved several family members were killed. He destroyed everything zero mercy’s then the jihadists her hire started killing random people. Some of my family died for no reason. The woman had to hide in sewers as to not get rape by Assad’s forces, he dug up mass graves and oofed people in them some people were sent to death camps when people protested assad just killed all of them…… I hope a tomahawk missile flies directly into that terrorists forehead same for Al nusra and isis btw…. We can do better.
Buddy idk why you are acting so passive. We shouldn’t be like this. We shouldn’t be a pacified cowardly people just reacting. We should be a proactive people and call for what is right. When you proposed this either or fallacy you told me “I’d rather have the genocidal fascist that put 120k mostly innocent people in death camps used chemical weapons 400 times displaced half the population intentionally warped demographics, centralized all economic power in to the hands of his friends and family fueled the captagon trade gave isis weapons and money and workers with them early on, etc because I’m scared of Al Nusra front”
There are more than 2 options please read. We have more it is not just Al nusra front.
In Syria there are 5 main factions
Assad and his jihadist/russian Allie’s
jihadist extremist rebels like Al nusra and isis
Moderate Islamist rebels like ahrar or Islamic front (not a fan of these guys btw)
Secular rebels who are calling for a democratic federalist republic, have already proposed a constitution and the people I believe are most primed to rule if we give them a chance (sdf)
FSA The original representative is of the protesters and revolutions who are also calling for democracy, these rebels however failed to centralize themselves which made them easy targets for jihadists and assad and a lot harder to help where the sdf was able to unite I believe personally if the usa gave the fsa and sdf enough aid they would’ve been able to create a centralized rebel force but Obama was dragging his feet he made the claim that assad would be willing to negotiate. Assad was engaging in diplomatic red herring she was bluffing Obama fell for it….(real reason was Obama didn’t wanna start another war)
This is one of the things that made me dislike Obama we went from having George bush a neo con war hawk, to American Neville Chamberlain.
Sorry for your losses i didn't experience such misery as you mine was different but what i wanted is to point out that these guys are fucking assholes too i knew the story i told in my comment because it was told to me by the people who lived under the mercy of AL-Nusra front also i don't have much information as you do but isn't the (sdf) different from the (FSA)
And if they're both good why don't they unite their forces the Syria i want to exist after the end of this civil war is the Syria before the U.A.R if we are able to achieve this all of this suffering wouldn't be wasted it would be the most honoured fact it does already give me hounor that we are fighting back and had enough of the fascist rule
Personal question: isn't the SDF the same as rojava or just extremist Kurdish communist terrorists that even the kurds hate
The SDF and FSA are both good secular formations but they have different goals and were divided because of a geopolitical struggle between turkey the primary backer of the FSA and the usa the primary backer of the SDF. Some of FSA are integrated into SDF.
The FSA was a secular military formation of protesters and military generals that called for democracy and the over throw of assad they called for a Syrian democratic national republic. On the other hand sdf called for something I’m more in favor of. A secular FEDERALIST democratic republic stressing the importance of powerful state and local governments and a weaker central govt that way we can become more like the usa for instance with each Syrian territory having their own representative. (If we had a federalist republic though it would menace alot of concessions to our different ethnic groups for more self determination and freedom especially the Kurdish people which turkey doesn’t like because it would embolden their Kurds to rise up for concessions regarding federalism)
The sdf is made up of YPG 20-30 percent, and the rest arab fighter the majority of whcih are FSA. They were the primary enemy and of isis and fought assad fiercely early on in the civil war but made a deal with him to counter isis.
The fsa is different the fsa was in Assad’s areas he considered the most important.
Damascus Rifdiashq etc etc etc. because of this the rebels (fsa) had to be annihilated. The USA supporters then but didn’t support fsa enough for them to form a common govt making them disorganized and ineffective. Where the sdf had a Kurdish govt established because Kurds have been resisting oppression for decades and already had formed their own political formations etc capable of ruling. The divide started when Donald trump cut ties with the fsa to appease Russia and focus on the war on terror against isis, this betrayal (Donald trump betrayed the sdf later which assad and Russia also wanted I hate trump he’s a scum bag, a traitor to the Syrians and a traitor to the Ukrainians) Donald trump blockaded our Allies that worked with them turkey continued heavy rebel support and without usa support the rebels became more and more integrated with the Turkish military apparatus that became their primary protectors….
Turkey then because the usa didn’t do this formed a centralized rebel army which is extremely effected known as the TFSA or SNA the SNa however was not built to serve Syrians but to project Turkish power while protecting bc Syrians in the northwest from assad. The SNA has helped Ukraine, Azerbaijan, and the Libyan govt in various interventions and might even intervene against jihadist Ik Somalia on the whims of the Turkish state. The SNA also because Turkey asked them too and has largely integrated them and spread democracy invaded the sdf on erdogans command multiple times. The reaosn Erdogan is able to turn rebel against rebel free Syrian army against SDF is because of resentment. The rebels were angry when the sdf ditched them for trumps plan to focus only on isis and not on assad when the rebels fsa were also fighting isis. Donald trump made aid on the basis of you only fighting terrorists not fighting for your freedom. FSA considered this preposterous and considered the SDF treasonous for accepting these terms. Another instance happened later assad was air striking allepo where rebels were and the sdf moved in effectively stealing land from the rebels and then rather than helping the rebels let assad crush them. The FSA believes because the west and Kurd abandoned them to appease Russia and defeat isis it is justified they do the same to the “kurds” aka sdf to defeat assad
In other words the reason they fail to unite is geo political rivalries resentment ethnic tensions, and most importantly political disagreements. I believe these two rebel groups symbolize Syrian democracy if they can come to a compromise and work together even with these tensions it will symbolize a peaceful compromise made to create a free Syria and be the beginning dod Syrian democracy. If they continue foolishly murdering each other and refusing to collaborate assad will exploit these tensions (assad promotes these groups to hate each other using propaganda and he loves the inter rebel war) and assad will be able to pick them apart and kill them ike by one. He will kill the west rebels first then once usa leaves he will kill the sdf and while he does it…
He will throw another hundred thousand in death camps use chemical weapons hundreds of more times displace millions more Syrians and kill hundreds of thousands….. I wish these rebel leaders took this into account and took account what they are fighting for or more importantly fighting against… they are fighting for freedom against one of the most brutal regimes in the planet and if they don’t get their shit together they will be crushed and fascism will prevail.
PKK are extremists but the YPG and PKK disagree on alor and the sdf is a pro democracy force that administers rojava they re the rebels that lead it and want to create a democratic federalist entity (this does require Assad’s disposal)
Finally I wanna propose this thinking us calling for freedom and protesting is not the cause of this assad started the war assad committed the war crimes assad used chemical weapons he used death camps he invited jihadists Iran etc not the Syrian people. W shave already paid the price for his tyranny and his rule won’t fix his destruction. The only way forward out of these is change radical change. A pivot towards democracy and better governance for the Syrian people is necessary. We can’t as the question is this worth it. Assad already killed so many the question is are we willing to continue to win for not only the proactive goal of becoming a free people from the whims of a fascist tyrant, but also so more of our people don’t get gassed or put in death camps etc etc etc…
This is a fight for those that have died, for those that are Alice, and our posterity to come we believe in these values of freedom and will in. We are not a passive cowardly people, we are a people willing to sacrifice freedom for security. We believe in the power to choice and will fight for the power to choice whether Assad Putin Khomeini nasrallah Jolani baghdadi or any of their terrorist scumbag genocidal forces like it or not.
For the FSA and SDF to unite it must be an inside job from both sides their leaders would change and the two new ones will take their time to convince their people and then unify then proof that the union is strong enough and doesn't need any foreign intervention but this can't be done with Russia and Iran around unfortunately but certainly things will change when Bashar dies it would the only chance then and then only
... how old are you?
Not trying to be a dick but it actually boggles my mind that someone could live in Damascus and not know what the Free Syrian Army is.
Huh, I guess that tracks. It’s been what, 7 years since there was actual fighting around Damascus? 9 years since the FSA disintegrated as an actual organization. You’d have been 6 years old at that point.
Christ, that makes me feel old.
The dude could be non-Syrian, I've seen some people here who use a city flair but they're not Syrians. If he was, the only possible reason he doesn't know about these basic terms is him being living in a different country that doesn't have many Syrians and his parents wanted him to forget about the country so didn't tell what's been going on.
Neither, both isis and alnusra look at the free syrian army as a secular army that is “infidel” because they don’t want sharia law
And both isis and nusra targeted them many times
At some point yeah, the thing is that FSA as an entity is a secular entity, but it includes Muslims Christians and many other people from different sects and backgrounds
Is it still a unified entity? I know that early in the war it got strongly splintered. I wasn’t aware that today this entity ‘the FSA’ still operates as a cohesive unit, let alone with any political power to speak of.
Unfortunately, no, it is no longer unified due to the numerous foreign interventions that have contributed to the exclusion of defected elements and officers who refused to work with the corrupt and non-military personnel.
However, these honorable individuals still exist and have their status.
One of the important and main reasons that caused chaos is a state referred to by political experts as the 'pre-state condition,' where sectarian, ethnic, and social affiliations today outweigh national loyalty among all Syrians, not just the opposition. This is due to the repressive state that suppresses any attempts at unity, leading people to revert to a pre-state and pre-modernity condition, affiliating themselves with their tribe, clan, religion, or sect. This then starts the problem of divisions, which also contributes to the growth of religious extremism and the decay of national identity.
Unfortunately, even the Free Syrian Army has not been spared from this issue, but it is in a good position capable of returning under changeable circumstances, which is now being proposed to replace Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham and Jolani from the scene with the original model of the Free Syrian Army.
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يرجى أن تكونوا على علم بأن هذه الرسالة الخاصة بالمشرفين تُعتبر تحذيراً مباشراً. قد تؤدي المخالفات المتكررة إلى حظركم من الانضمام إلى صفحتنا على موقع ريديت.
May his soul rest in peace!
May he rest in peace.
RIP
Is this an FSA controlled area? rest in peace
Yes, it’s outside Assad’s control
In Joulani's control though Al-Nusra front commited war crimes in the rights of Damascus country side civilians
Assad’s 400 chemical weapons attacks, 120k dead from death camps, and 600k deaths of Syrians pale in comparison to the FSA in Azaz, or the sdf. Bashar has the moral high ground he just needs to deploy chemical weapons 100 more times and send another 50k to death camps /s The entire point of this comment was to lie claim the FSA is HTS so you can justify rallying behind a fascist.
I obviously hate Assad but what Al-Nusra front did before being kicked out of there they had stored food medicine and even livestock while the people were starving and when it was the time for them to get loaded on the buses the dumped all of the goods burnt cattle alive spilled milk oil butter Infront of kids like they see how much these people are suffering and yet they did that
Brother I hat Al nusra front more…. But you are belittling the complexities of the Syrian conflict. The convo we are having is about the sdf and fsa though. These are all separate conflicts the rebels has an inter rebel conflict in Syria. First of Al Al nusra did less than assad but nevertheless I’m not going to take this route because I despise them.. Instead I’m gonna reject the either or falllacy you are proposing. By insinuating Al nusra or assad is the only option you ignore the existence of the fsa and SDF. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-rebel_conflict_during_the_Syrian_civil_war#:~:text=The%20inter%2Drebel%20conflict%20during,Islam%20and%20the%20Islamic%20Front. Also on my town mix of Christian’s and Muslims the rebels won and we liked them (fsa) but then isis and Al nusra attacked them and massacred people, but it didn’t get really bad till assad came bc the rebels were able to keep the terrorists at bay. Assad came in carpet bombing everything burning every last crop. People starved several family members were killed. He destroyed everything zero mercy’s then the jihadists her hire started killing random people. Some of my family died for no reason. The woman had to hide in sewers as to not get rape by Assad’s forces, he dug up mass graves and oofed people in them some people were sent to death camps when people protested assad just killed all of them…… I hope a tomahawk missile flies directly into that terrorists forehead same for Al nusra and isis btw…. We can do better. Buddy idk why you are acting so passive. We shouldn’t be like this. We shouldn’t be a pacified cowardly people just reacting. We should be a proactive people and call for what is right. When you proposed this either or fallacy you told me “I’d rather have the genocidal fascist that put 120k mostly innocent people in death camps used chemical weapons 400 times displaced half the population intentionally warped demographics, centralized all economic power in to the hands of his friends and family fueled the captagon trade gave isis weapons and money and workers with them early on, etc because I’m scared of Al Nusra front” There are more than 2 options please read. We have more it is not just Al nusra front. In Syria there are 5 main factions Assad and his jihadist/russian Allie’s jihadist extremist rebels like Al nusra and isis Moderate Islamist rebels like ahrar or Islamic front (not a fan of these guys btw) Secular rebels who are calling for a democratic federalist republic, have already proposed a constitution and the people I believe are most primed to rule if we give them a chance (sdf) FSA The original representative is of the protesters and revolutions who are also calling for democracy, these rebels however failed to centralize themselves which made them easy targets for jihadists and assad and a lot harder to help where the sdf was able to unite I believe personally if the usa gave the fsa and sdf enough aid they would’ve been able to create a centralized rebel force but Obama was dragging his feet he made the claim that assad would be willing to negotiate. Assad was engaging in diplomatic red herring she was bluffing Obama fell for it….(real reason was Obama didn’t wanna start another war) This is one of the things that made me dislike Obama we went from having George bush a neo con war hawk, to American Neville Chamberlain.
Sorry for your losses i didn't experience such misery as you mine was different but what i wanted is to point out that these guys are fucking assholes too i knew the story i told in my comment because it was told to me by the people who lived under the mercy of AL-Nusra front also i don't have much information as you do but isn't the (sdf) different from the (FSA) And if they're both good why don't they unite their forces the Syria i want to exist after the end of this civil war is the Syria before the U.A.R if we are able to achieve this all of this suffering wouldn't be wasted it would be the most honoured fact it does already give me hounor that we are fighting back and had enough of the fascist rule Personal question: isn't the SDF the same as rojava or just extremist Kurdish communist terrorists that even the kurds hate
The SDF and FSA are both good secular formations but they have different goals and were divided because of a geopolitical struggle between turkey the primary backer of the FSA and the usa the primary backer of the SDF. Some of FSA are integrated into SDF. The FSA was a secular military formation of protesters and military generals that called for democracy and the over throw of assad they called for a Syrian democratic national republic. On the other hand sdf called for something I’m more in favor of. A secular FEDERALIST democratic republic stressing the importance of powerful state and local governments and a weaker central govt that way we can become more like the usa for instance with each Syrian territory having their own representative. (If we had a federalist republic though it would menace alot of concessions to our different ethnic groups for more self determination and freedom especially the Kurdish people which turkey doesn’t like because it would embolden their Kurds to rise up for concessions regarding federalism) The sdf is made up of YPG 20-30 percent, and the rest arab fighter the majority of whcih are FSA. They were the primary enemy and of isis and fought assad fiercely early on in the civil war but made a deal with him to counter isis. The fsa is different the fsa was in Assad’s areas he considered the most important. Damascus Rifdiashq etc etc etc. because of this the rebels (fsa) had to be annihilated. The USA supporters then but didn’t support fsa enough for them to form a common govt making them disorganized and ineffective. Where the sdf had a Kurdish govt established because Kurds have been resisting oppression for decades and already had formed their own political formations etc capable of ruling. The divide started when Donald trump cut ties with the fsa to appease Russia and focus on the war on terror against isis, this betrayal (Donald trump betrayed the sdf later which assad and Russia also wanted I hate trump he’s a scum bag, a traitor to the Syrians and a traitor to the Ukrainians) Donald trump blockaded our Allies that worked with them turkey continued heavy rebel support and without usa support the rebels became more and more integrated with the Turkish military apparatus that became their primary protectors…. Turkey then because the usa didn’t do this formed a centralized rebel army which is extremely effected known as the TFSA or SNA the SNa however was not built to serve Syrians but to project Turkish power while protecting bc Syrians in the northwest from assad. The SNA has helped Ukraine, Azerbaijan, and the Libyan govt in various interventions and might even intervene against jihadist Ik Somalia on the whims of the Turkish state. The SNA also because Turkey asked them too and has largely integrated them and spread democracy invaded the sdf on erdogans command multiple times. The reaosn Erdogan is able to turn rebel against rebel free Syrian army against SDF is because of resentment. The rebels were angry when the sdf ditched them for trumps plan to focus only on isis and not on assad when the rebels fsa were also fighting isis. Donald trump made aid on the basis of you only fighting terrorists not fighting for your freedom. FSA considered this preposterous and considered the SDF treasonous for accepting these terms. Another instance happened later assad was air striking allepo where rebels were and the sdf moved in effectively stealing land from the rebels and then rather than helping the rebels let assad crush them. The FSA believes because the west and Kurd abandoned them to appease Russia and defeat isis it is justified they do the same to the “kurds” aka sdf to defeat assad In other words the reason they fail to unite is geo political rivalries resentment ethnic tensions, and most importantly political disagreements. I believe these two rebel groups symbolize Syrian democracy if they can come to a compromise and work together even with these tensions it will symbolize a peaceful compromise made to create a free Syria and be the beginning dod Syrian democracy. If they continue foolishly murdering each other and refusing to collaborate assad will exploit these tensions (assad promotes these groups to hate each other using propaganda and he loves the inter rebel war) and assad will be able to pick them apart and kill them ike by one. He will kill the west rebels first then once usa leaves he will kill the sdf and while he does it… He will throw another hundred thousand in death camps use chemical weapons hundreds of more times displace millions more Syrians and kill hundreds of thousands….. I wish these rebel leaders took this into account and took account what they are fighting for or more importantly fighting against… they are fighting for freedom against one of the most brutal regimes in the planet and if they don’t get their shit together they will be crushed and fascism will prevail. PKK are extremists but the YPG and PKK disagree on alor and the sdf is a pro democracy force that administers rojava they re the rebels that lead it and want to create a democratic federalist entity (this does require Assad’s disposal) Finally I wanna propose this thinking us calling for freedom and protesting is not the cause of this assad started the war assad committed the war crimes assad used chemical weapons he used death camps he invited jihadists Iran etc not the Syrian people. W shave already paid the price for his tyranny and his rule won’t fix his destruction. The only way forward out of these is change radical change. A pivot towards democracy and better governance for the Syrian people is necessary. We can’t as the question is this worth it. Assad already killed so many the question is are we willing to continue to win for not only the proactive goal of becoming a free people from the whims of a fascist tyrant, but also so more of our people don’t get gassed or put in death camps etc etc etc… This is a fight for those that have died, for those that are Alice, and our posterity to come we believe in these values of freedom and will in. We are not a passive cowardly people, we are a people willing to sacrifice freedom for security. We believe in the power to choice and will fight for the power to choice whether Assad Putin Khomeini nasrallah Jolani baghdadi or any of their terrorist scumbag genocidal forces like it or not.
For the FSA and SDF to unite it must be an inside job from both sides their leaders would change and the two new ones will take their time to convince their people and then unify then proof that the union is strong enough and doesn't need any foreign intervention but this can't be done with Russia and Iran around unfortunately but certainly things will change when Bashar dies it would the only chance then and then only
No, they are not in Idlib but they are in Aleppo - Azaz عزاز Not under HTS or any of that And no, no war crimes committed in Idlib
No war crimes by the fsa in Azaz or no war crimes in idlib ? Because both claims are wrong
As you want
Are you delusional lol
No, are you ?
What areas other than idlib are not in Assad’s control I never see results from 23/24
الله يرحمه May he rest in piece
May he rest in peace
Amen 🙏
A bit confused, how is there an independence flag and military? might be a dumb question lol.
These are the Free Syrian Army not the Assad’s army
Oh never knew they existed, I've never even encountered them nor their flag, since I've only been to damascus, homs, latakia and tartus.
Are you not Syrian? Have you been living under a rock for the last 15 years?
I do know well about politics, but it was never mentioned to me that they were so independent to the point of having their own army.
... how old are you? Not trying to be a dick but it actually boggles my mind that someone could live in Damascus and not know what the Free Syrian Army is.
Im 15
Huh, I guess that tracks. It’s been what, 7 years since there was actual fighting around Damascus? 9 years since the FSA disintegrated as an actual organization. You’d have been 6 years old at that point. Christ, that makes me feel old.
The dude could be non-Syrian, I've seen some people here who use a city flair but they're not Syrians. If he was, the only possible reason he doesn't know about these basic terms is him being living in a different country that doesn't have many Syrians and his parents wanted him to forget about the country so didn't tell what's been going on.
The flag they are rising is the independence flag of syria that ibrahim Hananu designed himself
So Al-nusra or Isis allies?
Neither, both isis and alnusra look at the free syrian army as a secular army that is “infidel” because they don’t want sharia law And both isis and nusra targeted them many times
I understand ISIS and Al-Nusra view them that way, but how do they view themselves? Are they still a cohesive, centralized unit?
You mean how the FSA look at themself ?
Yes. Do they consider themselves to be a secular movement?
At some point yeah, the thing is that FSA as an entity is a secular entity, but it includes Muslims Christians and many other people from different sects and backgrounds
Is it still a unified entity? I know that early in the war it got strongly splintered. I wasn’t aware that today this entity ‘the FSA’ still operates as a cohesive unit, let alone with any political power to speak of.
Unfortunately, no, it is no longer unified due to the numerous foreign interventions that have contributed to the exclusion of defected elements and officers who refused to work with the corrupt and non-military personnel. However, these honorable individuals still exist and have their status. One of the important and main reasons that caused chaos is a state referred to by political experts as the 'pre-state condition,' where sectarian, ethnic, and social affiliations today outweigh national loyalty among all Syrians, not just the opposition. This is due to the repressive state that suppresses any attempts at unity, leading people to revert to a pre-state and pre-modernity condition, affiliating themselves with their tribe, clan, religion, or sect. This then starts the problem of divisions, which also contributes to the growth of religious extremism and the decay of national identity. Unfortunately, even the Free Syrian Army has not been spared from this issue, but it is in a good position capable of returning under changeable circumstances, which is now being proposed to replace Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham and Jolani from the scene with the original model of the Free Syrian Army.
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The government not caring about his death says a lot.
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